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Source: [3] "Ya está puesto el +65 con los nombres de los fallecidos calados en la cruz. El soldador sube a dar los últimos toques para que el antimonumento quede firme." (The +65 is already in place, with the names of the deceased engraved on the cross. The welder climbs up to give the final touches to ensure the antimonument is secure.) Page 62.
ALT1: ... that the Antimonumento +65(pictured), dedicated to the miners who were trapped in the Pasta de Conchos mine disaster 19 years ago today, is complemented by a cage filled with hard hats buried in coal? Source: [4] Pero también traen una gran jaula [...] Uno a uno, los deudos se acercan a la jaula. Cada quien trae un casco que lleva escrito el nombre del familiar atrapado dentro de la mina y un pedazo de carbón mineral extraído en Coahuila [...] La jaula queda llena de cascos amarillos, blancos y azules. Llena también de grandes trozos de carbón que se deshacen, sueltan ceniza. (But they also bring a large cage [...] One by one, the relatives approach the cage. Each one carries a helmet with the name of the family member trapped inside the mine and a piece of coal extracted from Coahuila [...] The cage fills with yellow, white, and blue helmets. It also fills with large pieces of coal that crumble and release ash.) Page 67.
Moved to mainspace on January 11, 2025, long enough (over 6,000 per DYK check), cited, neutral, Earwig reported violation unlikely (5.7%), QPQ done. Hooks interesting, cited, ALT1 seems long. Image checks ok.
@Tbhotch: Do you want to add that the miners died to the hooks? Without knowing about the event, they could have been trapped and later rescued. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 14:20, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Mill Hill reference "This statue was initially displayed at the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia in 1876." "It was relocated to Douglas Place in 1976 as part of a bicentennial project "
ALT1: ... that the African Dirini (example pictured) diverged from its closest relative when South America was thousands of kilometres away from the African coast? Source: Same as above
ALT2: ... that its closest relative of the African Dirini (example pictured) is from South America? Source: Same as above
Comment: Thank you in advance to the reviewer for their time and hard work! I have three re-wordings of the same hook for ALT0-2, but if there is an alternative wording, I would be more than happy to hear it through! As a note: the source says "sister taxon" but I've used the more approachable wording "closest relative." The key point is that this entirely Southern African group's closest relative is from South America, and the divergence was when South America was quite far away from Africa when this happened.
Created by Ornithoptera (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 50 past nominations.
Good question Lajmmoore, my line of thinking was that since the Dirini are a tribe of butterflies rather than a single species, I felt the need to specify the genus/species in the pictured term. Since, in my view, a simple "pictured" wouldn't make sense for a group of several genera. However, since most DYK nominations are for a single species rather than a higher level classification, I'm not sure if there is a precedent to work off of. Though, it may be a more elegant solution to just have the "pictured" and then retain the image caption. I'm not entirely sure. Ornithoptera (talk) 17:12, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, new enough. Image checks out (I believe the phrase you're looking for is "example pictured"). ALT0 is by far the most interesting hook and checks out AGF. Earwig picks up only WP:LIMITED phrases. One question before I promote; why does Dirini need to be capitalised?--Launchballer17:09, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Launchballer, thank you for the feedback. I'll adjust the hooks to say "example pictured." To answer your question, "Dirini" is a proper noun, the name for a tribe, and thus is capitalized. Per the Florida State University here (download link ahead), it is standard practice for the genus level and above to be capitalized. There is an alternative form of the names that are typically lowercase (frankly I'm not familiar with the proper grammatical term for this, but I am familiar with its usage, possibly lemma?) such as: amathusiine for Amathusiini and satyrine for Satyrini, but "dirine" for Dirini has been too few and far between (I think I saw a single source) for me to really use it. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Brooklyn's Roll-A-Palace was "the front-runner of the roller-disco craze"?
Source: "What's Hot? What's Not?". Cue: The Weekly Magazine of New York Life. Cue Publishing Company. 1979. " ... the front - runner of the roller - disco craze , a fabulous $ 2 million roller disco in a former movie theater that has been earning its $ 4 ( including skates ) admission price for the past two years . "
Overall: Article was 6 days old at the time of nomination, which makes it new enough. Article is long enough (4281 characters). Article does not have copyright problems (Earwig's Copyvio Detector scored 31.5%, violation unlikely). Hook is interesting, is cited and appears in the article. Picture appears in the article and is clear at 100 pixels. QPQ is not needed. JIP | Talk16:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the review! What "dy-no-mite" news that this may be a future DYK. I'm very excited for more people to learn about this historically significant rink. To quote a disco-era meme (1973's Superfly Meets Shaft): "Aooow, Good God!" All the best and thanks again, Evedawn99 (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a recently promoted GA, the article easily passes the requirements. The hook is interesting, concise, and verifiable, and so it too passes the DYK requirements. I wonder, however, if it would be possible to produce an even more interesting hook. This topic strikes me as a potential DYK goldmine. Surtsicna (talk) 00:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
JJonahJackalope, I just noticed that the article about the bridge itself is only 1500 characters long. Would it be possible to expand that article fivefold so that we might have a double hook? This is a rare opportunity. Hall of Fame guaranteed! Surtsicna (talk) 01:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna:, I was thinking about expanding that article at some point, never done a bridge article before, but I found a few good sources while doing the collapse article, and I'm fairly confident I could get it expanded within a few days. How much time would I have to get it expanded and added to this nomination? -JJonahJackalope (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If it's only a few days that you need, @JJonahJackalope:, you can certainly have them! I think if you just copied the "Background" and "Later history" into the main bridge article (where it probably belongs anyway), you could have it in an instant. But see what you think is best. Surtsicna (talk) 10:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the 1972 collapse of the Sidney Lanier Bridge(pictured), which was caused by a collision from a cargo ship, caused ten deaths and over a million dollars in damages?
This expansion far exceeds my expectations. You certainly did not cut corners like I suggested that you might. Truly impressive. Thank you. Surtsicna (talk) 22:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not a particularly interesting hook as that's far from the first time somebody got upset over a network's coverage, and I've also seen other stories of reporters being attacked. I don't see what stands out about this particular case. It certainly doesn't help how this hook uses vague descriptions and needlessly hides names with WP:EASTEREGG piping. Refactoring the quote is also completely unnecessary. Try coming up with something else. On the plus side, I don't see any copyright or neutrality issues. QPQ has been provided, article is more than long enough, and was taken to DYK a day after passing its GAN. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely much more intriguing! I would only make minor changes here by using a straightforward mention of Arthur Mosby (the owner alluded to) and NBC Montana's name instead of hiding the latter behind pipes. We're otherwise good to go. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Very hard disagree on the latter because the station was not known as NBC Montana until the 1990s. Piped links like this are standard operating procedure for me now because call signs are terrible for views. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean by "call signs", but even going with KGVO-TV (its name at the time) would be better than the vague "a Montana TV station" description used. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SNUGGUMS: I have written at this point hundreds of radio and TV station DYKs and vehemently would disagree. There's discussion of why I've done this at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/Statistics/Archive_2 (search "WCBR") and a few other places. It's improved the view rate on my broadcasting DYKs, some of which used to be the least-read in an entire month. I also am getting comments less from people who complain Wikipedia is running too many broadcast station hooks. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Shrugs shoulders) It seems quite odd how ambiguity within hooks could somehow boost views. My instinct previously told me that readers would've instead preferred to know a specific name prior to clicking on links. Oh well. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This might not be the response you expected, but I personally find the use of names (or lack thereof) didn't affect how eye-catching the hooks were, and was more intrigued by the central points each hook made. Regardless, I won't let that prevent the nomination from passing. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good. Would rewrite hook to note that this was a cover. My first read of this suggested the song was only authored by Swift but not part of her discography. Otherwise, looks pretty good! ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Louis Malet de Graville(coat of arms pictured) began a successful career at the centre of French politics after his father was captured by the English? Source: Deldicque 2021, pp. 23–24
Article well written and well-source. Interesting hook, with offline source accepted in good faith. Improved to GA statue on 3 Jan, so new enough. Image public domain (though I think this image from the lede is more eye-catching). Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk)
Well, thanks for making an effort, but I'm not super convinced. Without a bit more context it sounds strangely dubious. I would prefer to stick to something a bit clearer for the front page, and his coat of arms is both a personal symbol and also quite pretty, in any case. But thanks again for taking the time to try to find a solution. Yakikaki (talk) 19:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is eligible, QPQ checks out, and the hook seems interesting. It's citations are used in the article and confirm the hook. No evidence of copyvio. Looks good to me. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Of all the unlikely musical developments that could have taken place in the closing years of the 20th century, the avant-tango movement is probably the second least likely (right after Christian death metal)."
Comment: I re-created this from the redirect. The article content is over 10x expanded from its previous greatest size prior to conversion into redirect.
5x expanded by 3family6 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.
This might be the most epic hook among the current nominations, and I suspect that even better hooks might be produced from the article. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me will take this on soon enough. Surtsicna (talk) 17:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169. Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main r o a d, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
ALT1: ... that the Jama Masjid was the first mosque to be built in Hyderabad? Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169. Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main road, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
ALT2: ... that the inscriptions of the Jama Masjid, Hyderabad "may compare favorably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries"? Source: Yazdani, Ghulam (1921). Epigraphia Indo-Moslemica, 1917-18. Calcutta: Superintendent Government Printing, India. p. 43. The bold sweeping curves and fine, crisp vertical and horizontal stroke of these inscriptions exhibit art of a high order and they may compare favourably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries.
The article falls short of a fivefold expansion even when I count the lead section, which repeats information from the rest of the article. Therefore it does not yet qualify for DYK. Surtsicna (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. I only see 3442 characters when the lead is not counted, however. Would it be possible to add 500 more? I would also suggest improving the citation style; rather than putting all the citations at the end of the paragraph, try putting them right after the sentence to which they relate. I am looking forward to reading a bit more about the masjid. Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot, AmateurHi$torian! I started with a source spot check. Citation #4 does not seem to cover the first paragraph of the first section (coincidentally where the hook comes from), unless I am missing something. It explicitly says the opposite, that it was not the first mosque, and it does not mention "congregational" at all. Surtsicna (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: Ah, I've just noticed that Sherwani calls the prayer-hall in Charminar a "mosque". This interpretation would make the Jama Masjid the second mosque of the city, so I'll strike the first two hooks. I've altered the article to the same effect. The word "congregational" is used in the second paragraph, and the source for that is #5 (Bilgrami) already cited within the paragraph, who calls it an assembly mosque. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So far so good. The article is now clearly sufficiently expanded. It is certainly comprehensive and well sourced. I should also note that the expansion is recent enough and that I have not detected any close paraphrasing. I think there is an even more interesting hook hiding in the article:
Overall: The article was nominated for DYK within seven days of being created and is long enough. The article is adequately sourced, neutral, and is free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing. Hook is interesting. Image appears to be freely licensed, is used in the article, and is clear at 100px. QPQ is done.
However, I don't feel that the hook is adequately cited. The statements that bugias are used by "Latin Catholic Bishops or other prelates" and that Béjaïa is "famous for its exportation of candle wax" do not appear to be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source.
Thanks, Mattythewhite -- Do you know if DYKs can have multiple sources? I think to fully prove the whole DYK here a few need to be daisy-chained together, and in searching there doesn't seem to be a defined policy. Maximilian775 (talk) 20:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Maximilian775: I'm not certain but I assume that more than one source is fine. The ALT1 hook looks fine to me. However, I can't see any mention of bugias in the source? Also, I think the main body of the article needs to mention, with a source, the use of bugias by Latin Catholic Bishops, as it's currently only in the lead.
@Mattythewhite: just edited the source URL, it was referencing the wrong page.
As to mentioning bishops, the "description" section mentions cardinals and patriarchs, and the "usage" section mentions the Pope and assistants at the papal -- all 4 of these persons are as a rule, almost always bishops. Maximilian775 (talk) 22:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hook checks out, as does the QPQ. Article is eligible (improved to GA) and looks to be in good shape. Interesting enough hook. Looks good to me! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is eligible (recently promoted GA) and in good shape. QPQ checks out. Hook is interesting and the source confirms it. Looks good to me, great job on this leech! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that summons to the Council of Tripoli were issued in the name of the Church to bypass the issue of whether a king could summon a prince? Source: "But Tancred owed no allegiance to king Baldwin. Therefore Baldwin summoned him in the high name of the church of Jerusalem..." (Fink 1969, p. 397)
ALT1: ... that, whether consciously or by chance, the Council of Tripoli revived the border between two uninvolved states?
ALT2: ... that the Council of Tripoli has been interpreted as a sign of a "formal confraternity" between the Christian rulers of the Middle East?
I really like ALT0 but all should be good as far as interest goes. I'm personally fine with giving a few days leeway on the nomination as well. Would you be able to pull the sources for the hooks? And place them here? I'm fine with looking for them myself but it'll be best for then prep builders and queuers will be working on it as well. ~Darth StabroTalk•Contribs02:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
article created from redirect within a week of nomination; copyvio checks out; article well-written and formatted; offline source accepted in good faith; hook interesting. Article could have some minor edits to meet MOS:LEAD standards — citations are included in the lead as well as content not mentioned in the body.; however, I don't think this significant enough to defer nomination. Nihil obstat. ~Darth StabroTalk•Contribs02:56, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
New enough GA. Nominator is QPQ exempt. The hook fact is correct and in article. I am concerned, and this is for the promoter, about a MOS:SEAOFBLUE issue with both "Hyperpop" and "Hype House" linked, and I really do not know how to resolve it as both seem to need linking. A second issue could be resolved by unlinking "homestay" in ALT0. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did think about that, but I believe per WP:SEAOFBLUE it could pass as it only states "When possible, do not place links next to each other", though in this case, it would not be possible, as the source states it in this way. I agree that "homestay" could be unlinked in ALT0 (didn't even catch the sea of blue error in the article), but I don't think we can do much about it in the quotes.
Adding a note that the hook fact is indeed inline-cited in this article. I've gone ahead and unlinked "homestay" in ALT0. We may be stuck with the SEAOFBLUE for "Hyperpop Hype House" if that is indeed the case, since we are using a quote. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article is long enough, new enough, notable enough per WP:BKCRIT criterion 1. Still, I don't find the hook particularly interesting. How about something like
ALT1: ... that extrasolar planets in fiction come in a variety of shapes, including flattened, cubic, and toroidal? Source: See the sources in the "Exotic shapes" section.
ALT2: ... that most extrasolar planets in fiction are Earth-like, but this has become less common since real exoplanets have been discovered? Source: See the sources in the "General characteristics" section.
Overall: New enough (GA on January 5, 2025); Long enough (11061 characters); Within policy - sourced, neutral, copyvio-free (Earwig returns "Violation unlikely"); Hooks are cited and interesting; QPQ provided. This is quite an interesting read :)
... that although the herb spiked savory is protected under Israeli law, the leaves of the plant are foraged by the local population, in preparation for making a spice mixture?
Comment: I have submitted two individual sources; one showing that the plant is protected under Israeli law, and the other showing how that it is foraged by the locals between April and June. I will also begin working on my QPQ, in the article Deval Masjid.
Created by Davidbena (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Comment, typically for DYK the target article is bolded and usually a single name would be chosen rather than both the common name and the scientific name. In addition, per MOS:COMMONNAME, the common name is rendered in lowercase. Thus, the best approach would be to have it as "spiked savory" for the purposes of the hook. Ornithoptera (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: I assume good faith on the Hebrew reference. "It prefers dry sunny hillsides and high dry meadows." needs a direct citation. SL93 (talk) 23:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Re: smallest: "Even last season, his 11th in the NHL, Gaudreau, all grown up, was all of 5-9, 163. Among the 1,022 players who appeared in the League, only 15 were shorter. Only five were lighter."
Re: All-Star appearances: "In 2014-15, his first full season with Calgary, Gaudreau made the first of seven NHL All-Star Game appearances and was named to the NHL All-Rookie Team."
Improved to Good Article status by The Kip (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
As I considered the GA pursuit as a form of honoring his memory, I figured I'd aim to celebrate him with the DYK and avoid something about his death/the aftermath. TheKip(contribs)07:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Excellent work, The Kip. It was a lovely idea to celebrate the man with a GA and now a DYK. The GA promotion is recent, and the article expectedly passes the rest of the DYK requirements. I would strongly suggest including the photo in the nomination because of its quality and potential to draw in readers. I have some questions:
How do we explain the discrepancy in heights given in the article? The infobox says 5 ft 9 in (175 cm); Johnny_Gaudreau#USHL says 5 ft 6 in (1.68 m). It would be quite remarkable if he grew 7 cm after the age of 18. This has implications for the ALT0 hook because the NHL seem to have players far shorter than 5 ft 9 in (175 cm).
Can ALT1 succinctly explain or hint at why the decision stunned the hockey world? The hook would be more interesting to readers if it contrasted Gaudreau's success with the reputation of Columbus as "a bad destination, a bad city".
I see numerous high-quality photographs of Gaudreau and memorials to him on FlickR. Have you tried reaching out to the users who do not have their photographs under Wiki-suitable licenses to see if they would be willing to change the licenses for use on Wikipedia? It is not a requirement, but some of these photographs would be great contributions to the article.
Would it be possible to create an article about Matthew Gaudreau? On a cursory search I see enough coverage to say that he might pass Wikipedia's notability requirements. A double nomination would be nice.
Would it be possible to expand the lead? It seems rather short for an article of that size. I think it could safely be doubled.
Have you considered that a hook mentioning the Gaudreau brothers' deaths and/or the tributes paid to them might honor them by drawing the greatest number of people to read and learn about them? I know nothing about hockey and do not have any interest in it, and would not have chosen this nomination or read the article if you had not mentioned "his death/the aftermath" in the comment. Now I am glad I did.
@Surtsicna: Thanks for the response! I'll go point-by-point:
Honestly, I'd assume he simply did grow, though there's some inconsistencies with his exact height - there's sources over the years ranging from the 5'6" he was listed at the draft to 5'10" at one point during his career. Bottom line, the NHL had him listed at 5'9", and they're probably the most reliable source on this.
I've got some ideas for this, but I'm time-limited at the moment so I'll post those later.
With all due respect, that's a bit beyond the scope of DYK, and the article is fairly well-illustrated anyways.
Much as I hate to say it, Matthew doesn't really pass GNG. Only played college hockey and briefly in the minors, coached high school, and died alongside his brother - it would be heavily bordering on WP:BLP1E.
I'll take care of that a bit later.
Again, with all due respect, a bit beyond the scope of DYK - the current lead was found acceptable for GA.
I am suggesting changes that are not DYK requirements, and marking them as such, because you made me care about the subject. It is your fault :) If the height discrepancy cannot be explained in the article, I am not comfortable with promoting ALT0. ALT1 is still promising, but I think that it should be possible to come up with a hook that both highlights Gaudreau's achievements and causes an emotional reaction in the reader–with or without explicitly mentioning death–that makes them want to learn more. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: regarding ALT0, even with the discrepancy of exact inches, the NHL source still outright declares him one of the shortest players in hockey - here's a second RS doing the same. I'm not really sure how the discrepancy creates an issue with the hook as a result.
On the issue of a more emotion-provoking ALT2 - I still can't think of any. I thought about trying to pull a quote from a notable obituary/tribute that didn't explicitly mention his death, but most of them were fairly run-of-the-mill. If it must be related to his death, I'd probably suggest:
But again, that would be my distant, distant third choice behind the original hook and ALT1. I really would prefer to avoid one solely focusing on the tragedy - I think most of us would rather that not be what he's mainly remembered for. TheKip(contribs)04:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is a better source for ALT0 because it calls him "one of the shortest" when listing him as 5 ft 9 in. The one describing him as "the shortest" when listing him as 5 ft 6 in could be called outdated by the time Gaudreau was a seven-time All-Star if he really somehow grew three inches in the meantime. ALT2 is very weak, not at all what I had in mind. But the source you just cited for the height has the potential to produce something very sweet. How about: Gaudreau with the Calgary Flames in 2016ALT3: ... that the seven-time All-StarJohnny Gaudreau(pictured) was a "hero" who paved the way for smaller hockey players, according to a teammate now wearing his jersey number? Or something like this. It does not explicitly mention his death, but hints at a loss while also highlighting his success and achievements. A photo would make it even more impactful. Surtsicna (talk) 15:30, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I could work with that, and I'd definitely prefer to include an image - not sure why I didn't initially include it, but I'll retroactively add. I'd hesitate to call Caufield a teammate as they only played together on the national team (rather than an NHL one) but it could be something like:
Alright, we will go with ALT0. It is a perfectly fine hook. We will need a single source for it, however, otherwise it looks a bit SYNTHy, and the hook fact should be explicitly stated in the article with that source. This will be overall useful because the article does not yet explain why this was special. Surtsicna (talk) 18:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: The source used for his small-ness notes at the end that he was a seven-time All-Star, so I think that covers it - I'll try to work that into the lead of the article, though. TheKip(contribs)19:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I missed that. I would include it in the article body as well per MOS:LEAD, but I suppose that for DYK purposes it does not matter where in the article it is. Surtsicna (talk) 19:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Expanded from 947 to 6649 in the four days up to nom, very few issues with sourcing, had to fix some close paraphrasing myself. @Cielquiparle: fix the issues and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine19:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Miraclepine: Thanks for the thorough review and for catching that I hadn't checked all the credits in the infobox which were there from before. I added an episode list to the bottom of the article that lists which writer and director worked on which episode with references, after working out how to find the BBC Genome Project entries for each, and removed all the footnotes I had added to the infobox as an interim step on that basis. I've also pieced together plot summaries for each episode and iterated to use different wording from the original TV listings without changing the meaning or making it too verbose or too non-British. The running time, cast, and the producer appearing in the infobox are now discussed within the main article body, with citations. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Deval Masjid was originally a temple?
Source: Eaton, Richard M. (2011). "Muhammad bin Tughluq and Temples of the Deccan, 1321-26". In Haidar, Navina Najat; Sardar, Marika (eds.). Sultans of the South: Arts of India's Deccan Courts, 1323-1687. Metropolitan Museum of Art. p. 180. ISBN978-1-58839-438-5. Locally known as the "Deval Masjid" in Urdu, or the "Vanda-stambhala-gudi" (hundred-pillared temple) in Telugu, the structure had originally been a temple, built in the late twelfth or early thirteenth century in the Kakatiya style Yazdani, Ghulam (1916). Annual report of the Archaeological Department of His Highness the Nizams Dominions, 1323-24 F. (1914-15 A.D.). Baptist Mission Press. p. 3. The great mosque popularly known as the Deval Masjid was originally a Buddhist or Jaina temple, for the seated images of Buddha or of Tirthankaras are carved on several stones. Later it seems to have fallen into the hands of Hindus, whose religious symbols can also be traced on the building.
Comment: It might be a good idea to make the page semi-protected before it features on the main page, as the conversion of Hindu temples into mosques is a contentious political topic in India
Created by AmateurHi$torian (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.
it is perhaps preferrable to define for our readers what a "masjid" is. Therefore, I would prefer the following DYK:
ALT1:... that the Deval Masjid (a 14th-century mosque) was originally a Hindu temple?
Otherwise, the article is new enough and long enough, and the article is adequately sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems, to the best of my knowledge. The hook is interesting and has been verified by provided inline citation. Moreover, the image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear.Davidbena (talk) 16:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
QPQ: Done.[reply]
Comment: The Church of St. Casimir is a 5x expansion, but the DYK script doesn't catch it because the page erroneously had an inline commons category link counted as part of the prose.
Created by Darth Stabro (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 19 past nominations.
Source: See the sources in the "Early depictions" section.
ALT1: ... that the earliest depictions of black holes in fiction predate the term black hole? Source: See the sources in the "Early depictions" section.
Overall: Article was nominated for DYK within 7 days of reaching Good Article status. Article is over 1,500 words in prose, properly sourced, and written with a neutral tone. Earwig picked up an unlikely violation of 26.5%, which were mostly titles of short stories. Nominator has less than 5 nominations so a QPQ is not needed at this time. The hook is very interesting, but it'd be nice if you could directly list the sources used to support the hook instead of referring them to a section of the article. Other than that, it looks good and almost ready to go. lullabying (talk) 06:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the wuxia star Wu Suxin passed as a man in several of her films?
Source: *Bao, Weihong (2005). "From Pearl White to White Rose Woo: Tracing the Vernacular Body of Nüxia in Chinese Silent Cinema, 1927-1931". Camera Obscura. 20 (3): 193–231. doi:10.1215/02705346-20-3_60-193.: Page 216: "[The Valiant Girl White Rose] was not the first time that Wu cross-dressed. In several films, including The Bandit of Shandong (Shandong xiangma, dir. Chen Tian, 1927) and The Wife of the Detective (Zhentan zhiqi, dir. Zhang Huimin, 1928), Wu cross-dresses, performs martial arts, and gets involved in love triangles between a male peer and a female admirer."
New enough (created January 7), copyvio OK (no obvious paraphrasing and Earwig returns 3.8%), NPOV, no image, QPQ done, hook is interesting, hook is correctly and inline cited (to Camera Obscura, a journal published by Duke University Press). Looks good! Chetsford (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Overall a very nice article and very nice hook! 🙂 The article is well sourced, cited, neutral, etc., While not a condition for DYK, I would recommend rephrasing a lot of the quotes used in the Composition section in your own words, as its kind of a clunky read right now, and I feel like a lot of those exact quotes don't add much to the page. Thank you for making the page, cheers! Johnson52408:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for accepting my nomination and thank you for the feedback! I've went and updated the Composition section to re-write a ton of the quotes in my own words and hopefully de-clunkify a lot of the article. Let me know what you think. Beachweak(talk)15:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article GA'd same day as nom and definitely long enough. No policy issues as far as I can tell. Hook is sourced, very interesting, and extensively covered in the article. QPQ done. Good to go; well done, as always! Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Second time doing this ever. I also think a hook about the challenge system being implemented would also be interesting. Let me know if I missed anything during a second opinion. Heart(talk)03:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
HeartGlow30797, I am not sure I understand your review. Are you requesting a second opinion? It looks like you approved the hook but are asking for another opinion. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 13:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks HeartGlow30797. You actually need to add a "tick", something like {{subst:DYKtick}} to approve the hook and move the process forward. The red arrow tick you used is to call for a second reviewer to take a look. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 14:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Richard Nevell. The bases have all been covered (length, date, sourcing and QPQ). It is well written, but one thing you should add in the article is the specific location of the cemetery. Al Ameer (talk) 20:00, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Al Ameer son: Thank you for the prompt. I had stopped looking after I couldn't find the location mentioned in the news reports and thought that we might need to wait until an academic publication comes out at some point, but I remembered that I've recently been exploring the data in the Endangered Archaeology in the Middle East and North Africa's database. Anyway, the point is that we now have a location and a map. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Adequate sourcing: - Can't find verification of a Tua Pek Kong and Tai Sui in the attached ref (though I found the former in the Li/Lu ref); while the page says there is one Kṣitigarbha statue, the Sin ref says "Buddhist deities" without specifying if there is more than one. You may wanna look back at the Li/Lu ref for improvement, This ref may be useful, since it mentions the prayer hall unlike the Chan and Sin ref (not to mention it will help with making this already-short page even longer).
Overall: Created three days before nom and is 1777 B. Besides the issues I pointed out, sourcing is otherwise either AGFed or verifiable and is overall reliable. @Kingoflettuce: fix the issues and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine17:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Yiddish poet Shmuel Hurvits quit his job as a teacher to become a street-paver due to an ideological appreciation for manual labor?
Source: Steinlauf, Michael C. (2003). "A. Litvin: Chronicler of Jewish Souls". In Steinlauf, Michael C.; Polonsky, Antony (eds.). Polin: Studies in Polish Jewry. Vol. 16. Liverpool University Press. pp. 371–412. doi:10.3828/liverpool/9781874774730.003.0020. ISBN 9781874774730.
New enough, long enough, QPQ done. Hook checks out (via TWL) and is interesting. Article is sourced, neutral, does not appear to be plagiarised. No other issues apparent, good to go. —Kusma (talk) 22:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article GA'd 7 January and long enough, with no policy errors as far as I can tell (Earwig picks up some quotes, such as the rule change in 2015). Hook is very interesting and cited in the article, and QPQ is done. Thanks for your great work; I think we're good to go! Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
article is recently created, within policy and long enough. Hook is interesting and short enough. QPQ is complete. Note, I verified the source to the best of my ability using Google translate. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 22:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that most of the films produced by the Huaju Film Company starred its co-founder and his girlfriend?
Source: * Hong Kai (侯凯) (20 January 2022). 华剧影片公司 [Huaju Film Company]. Encyclopaedia of China (in Chinese) (3rd ed.). Archived from the original on 7 January 2025. Retrieved 7 January 2025. [影片多由张惠民导演，张惠民、吴素馨夫妻共同主演。] "Most of the films were directed by Zhang Huimin, with Zhang Huimin and Wu Suxin costarring."; girlfriend: Zhang, Zhen (2005). An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. ISBN978-0-226-98238-0. p. 385: "Yu is played by Wu Suxin, Zhang's girlfriend in real life."
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: New and long enough, with no policy issues I can see. Hook verified (AGF because I don't believe I have access to the given source) and in the article. QPQ is done. Thanks for your wonderful work; I believe we're good to go! Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Huh, one I did know (though I'm also a Disney nerd and have a Mulan picture signed by Ming-Na Wen...)! And yes, I think Darth Vader is definitely well-enough known to meet WP:DYK-int. New enough, long enough, interesting. Hook fact is well cited. Earwig comes back with 36%, but going through the returns everything is either a film title or a properly attributed quote. As Launchballer noted, no FU images on the MP, and I see that it has been removed. Good to go! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For ALT1, there are other instances of a station being affected by a joint venture split (see Tan Kah Kee MRT station). The main hook might not be interesting since it's focusing on the stairs but there were other design issues as well.
Improved to Good Article status by Icepinner (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Article is new enough (GA on January 7, 2025) and long enough (6871 characters). It is adequately sourced, neutral, and free of copyright violations (Earwig returns 2.0%). All the hooks are cited, and reasonably interesting. ALT0 could have been made more interesting if there was mention of the "stairs that led to nowhere", but "repeated issues with the stairs" is still interesting enough, at least for a DYK. No QPQ is required. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 20:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@AmateurHi$torian: now that you mentioned it, do you think that the hook should be changed to "...that a train station in Singapore has stairs that seemingly 'lead to nowhere?". I think "repeated issues with the stairs" isn't that interesting compared to the above one (though I don't know if it's still there or not). Icepinner (formerly Imbluey2). Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 01:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that in 2014, photographer Peter Miller stated that the "Vermont Way" of grumbling and every so often remembering that "we live in beauty" was "coming to an end"?
Source: "We self-employed Vermonters grumble but we have carried on and every so often we remember that we live in beauty. That’s the Vermont Way and I think it is coming to an end." VTDigger
Source: 1) James R. Russell (2000). The Heroes of Kasht (Kašti Kʿaǰer). p. 34. "Ervand Koč‘ar’s bronze equestrian statue of David, brandishing his Lightning-Sword, stands in front of Erevan’s rail terminus. It and Mt. Ararat are perhaps the most widely-recognized emblems of Armenia."
2) Basmadjian, Vartoug (1995). "Light in darkness: The spirit of Armenian nonconformist art". In Rosenfeld, Alla; Dodge, Norton T. (eds.). From Gulag to Glasnost: Nonconformist Art from the Soviet Union. New York: Thames & Hudson. p. 229. "When Kotchar's monumental work depicting the Armenian hero David of Sassoun was erected in Yerevan in 1959, it became, after Mount Ararat, the most powerful and popular symbol of Armenia."
Comment: Vulture sources are locked behind a paywall after accessing five links from that website in a single month. It can be bypassed by opening the link in an incognito tab, if necessary.
Moved to mainspace by TheDoctorWho (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Comment: I think that ALT1 is a better hook than the proposed one. I feel iffy about making a DYK that links to penis on the Wikipedia home page, and I think the ALT1 hook is more interesting and easier to read, and will prompt more people to want to read the article for more information. (I haven't commented like this on a DYK nomination before, so please move this comment if I put it in the wrong place.) —Mjks28 (talk) 08:39, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
New enough (Jan 8), long enough (13000 B), no copyvio (Earwig says 26%, but mostly direct quotes and the show's title), well-sourced with citations to every statement except plot summary. TheDoctorWho, ALT0 is not verified in source; I see one source mention the penis joke and another mention that jokes were cut for being NSFW, but I don't see a statement connecting the two. ALT1 and ALT2 verified in sources (though the article needs an end-of-sentence citation for the statement about Willy's Chocolate Experience). I agree with Mjks28 that ALT1 is the most interesting. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)00:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let's just go with ALT1 to make things simple. I made sure that the citation is directly attached to the sentence with the hook, so that issue is solved as well. TheDoctorWho(talk)03:38, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: New enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited, though the site was down when I tried accessing it. Earwig showed no issues with paraphrasing. Image is free, looks good at small resolutions. AGF on the source that is temporarily not working. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
New article, more than long enough, decently sourced (though there's a heavy reliance on primary sources evident, not a major issue), hook cited and no image copyright issues. I do have one major issue: Earwig detects multiple pretty sizable copyvios. There's two over 40% confidence and going further down I see identical attributions to the sources (while there is an argument for keeping quotes, copyvios can occur if you take the attribution before the quote directly from the source, rather than just the quote itself). Also, the hook isn't too interesting, honestly; I'd propose an alt similar to "...that a blizzard across the United States caused a major water crisis in Richmond, Virginia?" or some variant (let me know what you think of that); "major impacts" happen all the time and being non-specific hurts this one. I advise that you check WP:EARWIG and go and root out the copyright violations, and ping me when that's done. Departure– (talk) 15:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Departure– I like your new hook much better. I have edited the page a little bit to remove some of the copyvios (I should have rephrased a bit more when writing the article, which is not normally a problem for me), but in my opinion, at this point, some of it is unavoidable. If you or someone else wishes to edit the page further to remove the copyvios, I would love that (totally not a requirement), but right now I don't have the energy to come up with new, creative ways to say "Tuckahoe Area Library" and "bottled water." All this to say that I am willing to withdraw the nomination if the page is still not acceptable. JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 05:05, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Using simple phrases is by no means a copyvio. I've had experience with this, long names such as "National Weather Service Chicago, Illinois" show up as major points towards a copyvio when they're just the name of the entity. I'll take a look at it again in a minute. Departure– (talk) 14:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JuxtaposedJacob: still multiple sources over 40% on Earwig, and some at 30% appear to be direct quotations of non-quoted material from the sources. You can use this link to Earwig to root out copyvios - anything with too-close paraphrasing of anything but a quote from an official isn't going to fly. Also, I should state now that DYK typically takes 2 to 3 weeks from an article getting nominated to appearing on the main page - by then, the water crisis in Richmond is likely to be resolved. Other than copyvio concerns, everything seems sourced and no problems with the hook. Departure– (talk) 14:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Departure–: I updated the article further as I figured out the copyvio tool more. Turns out you can work from the left side and that is much easier. I tried to re-run the test and bypass the cache but neither yesterday's or today's changes were showing up in the article. JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 05:40, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JuxtaposedJacob: Earwig shows violation unlikely and upon inspection everything appears fine. The article definitely isn't a GAN but in its current state I'd say it's good to go for DYK, hook's fine, no QPQ required, preference towards alt1. Cheers! Departure– (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article recently passed a GA review, so it qualifies on newness and length, it also complies with sourcing, neutrality and policy requirements. The only uncited sections in the article are plot synopses that don't really require an inline citation. It would have been nice to see a picture for this one, but there's certainly not any available in the commons/public domain. The hook is definitely interesting, as this is such an iconic character in this series. Easy pass for me. Nice work! Grnrchst (talk) 12:16, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: @Sammi Brie: Recently upgraded to GA status, no problems with the article, and a pretty interesting hook. The ALT1 hook isn't really interesting while ALT2 would be an okay replacement. The first hook is obviously the best. Jon698 (talk) 09:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Woljeonggyo was an 8th-century bridge that was recreated in 2018? Source: This source isn't used in the article (the sources in the article are mostly Korean-language), but it supports the hook [9].
Overall: Reviewing each of the links, they are free of bias, direct from the Cultural Heritage Administration. The reconstruction of an 8th century bridge backed by historical record is a worthy add-on to the DYK front page. Appreciate the topic!
The nomination for this article appears to qualify under the newly-passed GA criteria, with this occurring on January 7, while the nominator has completed the QPQ requirement (or seemed to be in the process of doing so). The hook itself includes a reliable source, is interesting, and meets the character-count guidelines. I believe this is good to go.--12george1 (talk) 04:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "Allerdings: gibt es ihn überhaupt, 'den' Black Molly? Oder ist es nicht vielmehr so, dass es eine ganze Reihe von schwarzen Molliensern gibt, mit ganz unterschiedlichen Stammeltern? Letztere Situationsbeschreibung trifft sicher eher zu, als 'den' Black Molly als 'schwarze Zuchtform des Spitzmaulkärpflings, Poecilia sphenops' zu definieren, wie es in zahlreichen Aquarienbüchern gehandhabt wird." [10]
Prior to expansion Poecilia sphenops was at 626B and it's now at 6032B, so it's been expanded by 5X recently enough. Fancy molly was created recently enough. Both pages are long enough. Two reviews have been done, so QPQ is good. None of the sources seem unreliable to me, but I have to AGF on the German source because I cannot read German. Tropical Fish Hobbyist Magazine is a hobbyist magazine but that doesn't necessarily mean it's unreliable, especially on the subject of tropical fish breeds. WP:EARWIG says both articles are fine in terms of potential plagiarism. The hook is fun and interesting, and I agree that it's probably better without the image. Overall, it seems good to me! Di (they-them) (talk) 02:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that according to legend, troubadour Jaufre Rudel fell in love with Countess Hodierna of Tripoli without ever having seen her, sailed to Tripoli to meet her, and promptly died in her arms (pictured)?
Comment: This article is tied to the article Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan), which is also nominated for DYK. I have considered a double hook, but decided that the separate hooks are more interesting. I hope that the two hooks can be featured on the same day as a compromise solution.
Improved to Good Article status by Surtsicna (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 195 past nominations.
An absolutely remarkable article, hook, and image. With everything appropriately cited, QPQ'd, and recent, I'm eager to see this run on the main page. Absolutely outstanding work. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Overall, the article was promoted to GA recently enough and, as a whole, satisfies all other requirements. Both of the hooks are interesting and properly cited. I see no reason to not approve this article. JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Bergland, Joel (2000). "The Farm Beneath the Sand". In Fitzhugh, William W.; Ward, Elisabeth (eds.). Vikings: the North Atlantic Saga. Washington, DC: Smithsonian Institution Press. pp. 295–304. pp. 302–303: Ivar Bardarson was sent to the Western Settlement to contact the people there, since in the more southerly and larger Eastern Settlement no on had heard from them for many years. He found no people, only empty farms and stray farmy animals. The quantities of animal manure that lay in all rooms in this abandoned farm appear to confirm the story of untethered domestic animals.
New, long, comprehensive, well-sourced, and I love the haunting vibe of the hook. I shall propose another hook just for the fun of it: ALT1: ... that Ívar Bárðarson's 14th-century reports of feral livestock inhabiting a failed Greenlandic colony were corroborated by the discovery of a frozen goat and animal feces inside an abandoned home? If you like ALT1, it will have to be approved by another editor. Surtsicna (talk) 12:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am fine with that ALT hook and generally with an ALT hook that talks about the archaeological work in the Western Settlement. Thanks for the feedback and the ALT. And yes another reviewer will have to take a look, Rjjiii (talk) 03:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article is new enough, long enough, and well cited. Hooks interesting and in article, with offline sources accepted in good faith. I think ALT1 is better, as the first hook is only tangentially about the town. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think one day is ok for the submission (although a reviewing admin may veto my view). Otherwise, no problems here, outside the minor issue of the body using "near-death experience" (with a hyphen), unlike the hook. GA status is confirmed, hook seems reasonably interesting. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here14:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just added the hyphen, good catch! I understand if an admin vetoes it, but I unfortunately was not able to submit this the day prior.
... that "Dr. Sex" (pictured) called for a "Big Breast Renaissance"?
Source: Lin Jiao, Nation, Fashion and Women’s Everyday Lives: Breast-binding in China, 1910s-1970s (PhD Thesis, SOAS University of London, 2017) https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/24390/1/Jiao_4368.pdf
A 5x expansion has been accomplished. QPQ has been done, although I'd suggest making sure that the provided QPQ is more complete as the review only said it was "in great shape as a GA" and didn't explicitly check for close paraphrasing. Since the sources are largely offline, I am assuming good faith for the referencing in the article. The hook itself is cited inline and verified in the thesis link: however, given that the hook mentions his Dr. Sex nickname, it might be a good idea to put a footnote in the sentence that mentions the nickname per WP:DYKHFC. I'm also not sure if Dr. Sex needs to be in quotation marks or not since it's a nickname, so I will leave that to the promoter. I do not see the hook as excessively gratuitous or sensational, although if there is pushback against the current wording we can just swap out "Dr. Sex" with "Zhang Jingsheng", or go with something like "that Zhang Jingshen, nicknamed Dr. Sex." Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:24, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was actually thinking that the reference should go after "He was given various epithets and nicknames by tabloid press, notably including "Dr. Sex" (性博士; Xìng Bóshì)", the current location of the reference is confusing and it doesn't seem to the best place for it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:15, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If possible, I would like for this hook to appear on the main page on January 20 (Inauguration Day in the United States) due to the Winter White House in Palm Beach bit
Improved to Good Article status by 12george1 (talk) and NitoNun (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.
Recent GA, long enough, no other eligibility issues. Fully sourced with no article issues. The hook is not clearly stated with citation in the article, though (the phrase "Winter White House" appears only in the lead section and not in the fully cited body). The hook is interesting should be fine for Inauguration day, although I am not sure we can currently guarantee such date requests. I have removed a link from the hook to avoid MOS:SEAOFBLUE and also because JFK is quite well known. QPQ has been done. Overall but should be an easy fix. —Kusma (talk) 16:53, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ done. No copyvios (Earwig's shows a website that has copied text from Wikipedia). Hook is interesting. Hook matches article and the sources. ―Panamitsu(talk)02:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: The article has been revised to address my concern, and it is now good to go. Unfortunately, I see some too-close language from this source. They say The Mozart scholar Volkmar Braunbehrens points out that, while Mozart did stay in Munich in 1790, there is no mention in his letters of any portrait of him being commissioned by the Elector or anyone else during his short visit to the city, nor does the name Edlinger occur anywhere in his correspondence. Indeed, Mozart writes that he only intended to stay for 1 day in Munich but was persuaded by the Elector to stay for 6 days to entertain his court guests; during this time he also busied himself by visiting his many friends. and the article says The composer wrote in a letter that he only intended to stay for one day, but was persuaded by the Elector to stay for six days to entertain his court guests, also visiting many of his friends. [...] On the other hand, scholar Volkmar Braunbehrens pointed that, while Mozart did stay in Munich in 1790, there is no mention in his letters of any portrait being realised, nor does the name Edlinger appear. Please revise this section to avoid close paraphrasing. But the other Earwig hits all look like quotes and unproblematic phrases, so I think you're OK after you tidy up that one. Please ping me when it's ready for a second look.~ L 🌸 (talk) 06:05, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the architecture of Tudor City in Midtown Manhattan was intended to attract people who would have otherwise moved to the suburbs? Source: Samuel, Lawrence R. (2019). Tudor City: Manhattan's Historic Residential Enclave. Landmarks. The History Press. pp. 29, 31.
ALT1: ... that the main entrances of three buildings in Tudor City were stranded up to 17 feet (5.2 m) in the air after a neighboring street was widened? Source: "Tudor City Sues For Million on 42d St. Grading: Alleges New U.N. Approach Left Woodstock Tower's Entrance Hanging in Air". New York Herald Tribune. October 7, 1951. p. 27.
Overall: The article is pretty long yet it does a good job of staying focused and faithful to its sources. I didn't notice any glaring issues so this is a straightforward pass. I suggest you go with alt2 as the four other hooks seem rather bland in comparison. WolverineX-eye (talk) 19:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'll admit I had hoped to move this to mainspace when it was ongoing, but it got abandoned in draftspace until today. Up to mainspace quality in my opinion, bringing it to DYK because I'm not letting this fact go un-DYKed. Not counting formatting, the second blurb is below 200 characters.
Created by Departure– (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Earwig's Copyvio checker indicates that it is unlikely that the article has any copyright violation issues. Furthermore, the article is new enough and long enough for DYK and is neutral in its coverage of the events. The hooks are both interesting and sourced appropriately. For the purposes of phrasing, I would prefer using ALT1. All in all, I see no reason not to approve this DYK submission. JJonahJackalope (talk) 14:50, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
@JJonahJackalope: I've adjusted the alt hook because after a search I found that they weren't found in their vehicle (and I don't fancy a third hook of mine being sent to Errors). Please review the new hook and let me know what you think. Thanks. Departure– (talk) 15:07, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the logo of South Korean company LG was based off an ancient roof tile? Source: [14] "그리고 LG의 출범과 함께 제정된 새 심벌마크가 ‘신라의 미소’로 통하는 ‘얼굴무늬 수막새’(보물 제2010호)에서 영감을 얻어 탄생했다는 사연이 소개됐다." -> "Upon LG's rebranding, it was announced that their new logo was inspired by the "Silla smile", "Roof-end Tile with Human Face Motif".
Comment: I think ALT1 is a less interesting story than the orig hook but LG would resonate with more people. Also I had more than 5 DYKs on a previous account so I need to do QPQs
Created by Seefooddiet (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Overall: QPQ has been satisfied. The article is new enough and long enough. Earwig's Copyvio tool indicates that it is unlikely that there are any copyright violations. Both hooks are interesting and sourced appropriately. Overall, I see no reason not to approve this article. JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Adequate sourcing: - Per the guidelines at WP:GENREWARRIOR, the genres in the infobox, MPB and world music, should either be supported by prose in the article, or by a citation in the infobox itself. "Love Me Tender" being listed as a "bonus track in the digital download" seems to be unsourced. The fact in the Legacy section also doesn't seem to be affirmed by the citation (it doesn't say that it was the first book published); I'd honestly suggest getting rid of the section altogether (since I'm not a big fan of one-sentence paragraphs/sections), but it should be okay as long as a different citation is added.
Other problems: - WP:DYKCOMPLETE notes that an article that is to appear on the front page should be "reasonably complete", so I'm going to be a bit picky (though hopefully not unreasonably so) and ask that a Personnel section be added into the page. All of the recent DYKs of albums include one, after all, and this site currently used in the article includes an full listing.
Other problems: - While I really like the content of this hook, I think that it should probably be re-phrased to put more emphasis on the fact that these songs are included on A Foreign Sound itself; as the hook currently stands, it reads more like he's simply giving critique on these two songs in a context unrelated to the album. See my overall comment for a bit more.
QPQ: None required.
Overall: For your first DYK nomination, this is a great job! Earwig shows 34.2% similarity, which is rather high but is considered "violation unlikely"; it could probably be reduced with a bit of work on the reception section (see WP:RECEPTION), but I'm not going to let that stop the DYK from proceeding. However, I have listed a few sourcing concerns which need to be addressed, and the hook may benefit from a bit of a re-write to emphasize the album itself (perhaps something along the lines of ALT0A: "... that A Foreign Sound includes a song that Caetano Veloso called "a fake American song written by a Brazilian" and a song he called "a fake Brazilian song written by Americans"?).
I also request that a personnel section be added to the article, in the spirit of WP:DYKCOMPLETE. I do understand that it's going to be quite a bit of work, so I'm not going to let this be the *only* thing which stops the article from moving forward if it comes to that, given that DYK articles are allowed to be of a lower quality than GA or FA. However, I believe it's a reasonable ask, because a personnel section is something which any album article is expected to have, and per WP:PERSONNEL the entire thing does not need to be included if it truly ends up being excessive. Sorry if this is a lot, but I have confidence that you can resolve these issues in a timely manner, and I hope that you're up for it! Leafy46 (talk) 04:36, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Leafy46: In editing the problems raised, I kept the Legacy section and replaced it with another reliable source that emphasizes that this is the first book in the series. I would also consider the Personnel section to be a pretty decent size and not excessive. Lastly, the genres in the infobox have been supported by references in the Musical style section. Cattos💭21:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cathodography: Having looked through your edits, I believe that you've satisfactorily addressed my concerns. I have removed "rock" as a genre in order to better reflect the source (as he merely called it an influence on his music as a whole), but feel free to undo it if you think it's not an improvement. Approving both the original hook and my minor adjustment above, which I've retroactively marked ALT0A (allowed per Note D in WP:DYKG, given that it is simply a restructuring of the original hook). Thank you for your fast work, and, once again, great job on your first DYK nom :) Leafy46 (talk) 05:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Tampa Bay Times ("When the Bucs decided to pursue Tom Brady in the 2020 offseason, it was Spytek who dubbed it Operation Shoeless Joe Jackson, from the movie Field of Dreams. “If you build it, he will come,’' Spytek would tell Licht. A former teammate of Brady’s at Michigan, Spytek helped land the star quarterback with the Bucs, the biggest free agent acquisition in franchise history") / e.g. Canton Repository (played with Brady in 1999, and it was in 2020 that the Buccaneers signed him: more than 20 years)
No copyvio concerns, QPQ done, hook appears interesting (I'd change "played with" to "played alongside", though) and is cited in the article, article is of sufficient quality and no other copyright concerns. However, this was not quite nominated within the 7 day window - it was moved to mainspace at 02:39, 10 January 2025 and nominated for DYK 23:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC) (7 days, 21 hours, 14 minutes, hey, all factors of 7!). This means that I'm unsure whether or not the article can be run on DYK based solely on newness, because it is within 7 days going from early morning to nearly midnight in Britain, but not many places else. I'm going to ask for a second opinion, as this is right on the edge of the window. Of course, no prejudice against re-nominating after a five-fold expansion or GA/FA run, and otherwise the hook is ready for DYK. Departure– (talk) 20:47, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is long enough and the draft was moved on the same that it was nominated for DYK so it passes the criteria. The hook fact is very very interesting and sourced - it was very interesting and funny to find this out! :) I think Hook 1 makes the most sense but it does not matter too much to me. QPQ has been done. I checked the article on Earwig and there is no copyright violation or anything close. Article is good to go in my opinion.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominations by a veteran DYK contributor, including a GA, make for some of the easiest DYK reviews. The Matlock and Dead! articles are new, long enough, and well-sourced. The GA is recent. The image looks very good. I see neither neutrality nor copyright concerns in any of the articles. Could you remind me of the DYK rule allowing for orthography bending outside of April's Fools hooks, Launchballer? I see that the band is often called DEAD! in the cited sources. Perhaps such all caps would be better than either dead! or Dead! in ALT0. Would it be fun and semantically appropriate to replace "formed" with "had" or "has"? The separate alternative hooks are all very interesting too, though it might be kinder to let Sam shine in his own right. I do love the meta element in ALT3. Surtsicna (talk) 11:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to keep you waiting on this; I hit a wall shortly between nominating and your comment. (I put Dead! and Sam Matlock together quite quickly.) I don't see anything at WP:DYKG regarding capitalisation but WP:DYKAPRIL suggests it can only be done for hooks on that day. There are some interesting hooks in [15] such as "that Sam Matlock of Wargasm and Dead! has likened paid meet and greets to prostitution", but I'd need to add them to the article. For now, I can suggest ALT3a: "that Wargasm, featuring Dead! guitarist Sam Matlock, have been described as "looking like the Wikipedia definition of modern rock stars"?"--Launchballer15:35, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I still like ALT0 best, Launchballer. It is concise and very punchy. The sense of urgency created by the interrobang is irresistible. It drew me in despite the topic being outside my normal zone of interest. What do you think about replacing dead! with DEAD!, as I see it written in some sources? ALT0a: ... that Sam Matlock(pictured) formed Wargasm with a woman who photographed DEAD!? Surtsicna (talk) 15:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Very interesting! Great to have the picture with this hook too. I would suggest a different wording which you can optionally use, just reversing the presentation of information- "Did you know that there are over 100 aboriginal pictographs rock paintings on a cliff face in Missinaibi Lake?" GraziePrego (talk) 05:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
New enough GA. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. Hook fact is cited, in article, and to that source. Added a link to Cllr as it may be an unfamiliar abbreviation for non-UK audiences (your GANs introduced it to me). No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: No issue that would disqualify the article from DYK, though I come away after reading the article not really understanding how Wu Yun became "the most famous Daoist poet in Chinese history" or gained any insight about what he did during his life. I would suggest to remove the word "apparently" from the hook since it lessens the impact. It would also be nice to elaborate on why Wu Yun refused to advise the emperor if that's what the hook hinges on, though I understand that may not be possible because of the availability of sources. _dk (talk) 06:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is some kind of explanation (that the emperor ought to focus more on 'worldly' affairs), but I didn't want to make the article more convoluted than it already was. The nature of the primary sources and scholarship make it hard to weave together a more straightforward biography, but I'm hoping someone will come along to make things better (lots of Chinese-language scholarship yet to be worked in and I have neither the access nor the aptitude to do so...). Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑🥬13:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral: - The phrasing was approved, despite public opposition and apparent contradiction with Turkey’s bid to host the 2026 climate change conference I think goes beyond the line. There's plenty of irony in the situation, which makes it a hooky hook, but there's no direct contradiction in a strict logical sense. That makes it an opinion, something we'd need to attribute to a source rather than putting in wikivoice.
Overall: Only apparent copyvio issue comes from a source copying Wikipedia, so we're fine. The phrasing in the lead needs to be made neutral, and overall I worry a little that the article focuses so heavily on criticism of the plant rather than more mundane aspects of its operation. (Also, why isn't there a link to its official site in the external links?) Once this has been addressed, it'll be good to go. Sdkbtalk02:16, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The links to the official sites are in the infoboxes. I have rewitten the lead to add more history technology and employment. If I can find more positive details I will add them - for example if the company decides to buy the more modern "supercritical" type units for the expansion they will presumably write on their website details of how they are better than than the existing units.
@Chidgk1: Sorry, I should have been clearer that I think the attribution change needs to be in the article lead, not the hook. I'm rather surprised that BigChrisKenney had nothing to say on neutrality during the GA review — this is clearly a controversial facility, so strict scrutiny needs to be paid there.For the hook itself, if we use a neutral phrase like "while also" rather than a more loaded/opinionated one like "despite," I don't think we'll need attribution in the hook, since we'll just be describing facts. So how about:
@Sdkb: Oh I see - you are right - I have now changed the lead to source the criticism. Also I deleted a couple of sentences of criticism and added benefit to the current account to make the article more balanced. Re ALT1 or ALT2 I don't mind which. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Zhang Zhiyun, crowned "movie queen" in 1926, is reported to have died homeless in Hong Kong?
Source: * Movie queen: Jing Zhiyu (景智宇). 张织云：中国第一位电影皇后 [Zhang Zhiyun: China's First Movie Queen] (in Chinese). Huangpu District Archives. Archived from the original on 25 June 2024. 1926年8月14日至9月14日，... 张织云以初选2146票力压群芳，成为中国历史上第一位"电影皇后"，甚至比第一届奥斯卡影后还早了三年。[From 14 August to 14 September 1926 ... Zhang Zhiyun won 2,146 votes in the primary election, beating out all the other contestants and becoming the first "Movie Queen" in Chinese history.]; streets of Hong Kong: Qiao Ran (樵髯) (11 May 2021). "Zhang Zhiyun: The Life She Easily Gave Up Was Exactly What Ruan Lingyu Dreamed Of" 张织云：她轻易放弃的生活，正是阮玲玉梦寐以求的. The Paper. Archived from the original on 10 January 2025. Retrieved 10 January 2025. 十年后一个初冬的早晨，这个叫阿喜的老太婆死了，她死在清凉的香港街头。[After ten years, on a cold Hong Kong morning, a woman who went by Zhang Ashan died in the streets].
ALT1: ... that Zhang Zhiyun found her first acting job after a journalist stole her picture? Source: *Jing Zhiyu (景智宇). 张织云：中国第一位电影皇后 [Zhang Zhiyun: China's First Movie Queen] (in Chinese). Huangpu District Archives. Archived from the original on 25 June 2024. 有万余张女子照片，却无一适合。有人举报，信箱曾被报馆内某记者私自开启。经交涉，记者交出10张取走的照片，其中有张织云的倩影。但照片失窃事件曝光，大中华公司借此大肆炒作。[More than ten thousand entries were received, but none were deemed suitable. It was learned that a reporter had taken ten photographs. After negotiations, the pictures were returned, including that of Zhang Zhiyun. The studio, seeing an opportunity, used this to increase the hype.]
New enough, long enough, solid prose, presentable, well-sourced, hook is sourced, no copyvio, images properly licensed, both hooks sufficiently interesting. I slightly prefer the orig hook over the alt. Well done! seefooddiet (talk) 08:04, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Albis Tunnel (built 1894) was the second-longest railway tunnel in Switzerland at its time?
Source: "Der Bau kam planmässig voran und der Durchstich des damals zweitlängsten Tunnels in der Schweiz (!) wurde am 15.5.1894 in Baar gehörig gefeiert." Stuber, Martin (21 August 2020). "Rückblick - Wie der Kanton Zug zum Eisenbahnknoten wurde". Zuger Zeitung (in German). CH Media. Retrieved 10 January 2025.. Non-paywalled copy at: [16]
ALT1: ... that the Albis Tunnel in Switzerland has been described as a bottleneck of railway services? Source: "Es gibt aber zwei Nadelöhre, die eine Erweiterung des Bahnangebots verunmöglichen. Eines ist der einspurige Albistunnel bei Sihlbrugg, das andere der Knoten Thalwil." Kälin, Adi (24 March 2022). "Zimmerberg-Basistunnel: Viertlängster Bahntunnel der Schweiz". Neue Zürcher Zeitung (in Swiss High German). NZZ Mediengruppe. Retrieved 8 January 2025.
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Comment: First DYK, so let me know if I messed anything up. Happy to run it without the image as well. ALT1 is for if a fact about the present railway traffic is preferred over the historical fact.
Moved to mainspace by YuniToumei (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
The article looks good and the hook is interesting. The image is freely licensed. The hook matches the article and I don't speak German so I can't verify the source. (I haven't reviewed ALT1). Personally I would remove the "(built 1984)" and change the ending so it says "when it was made" or something similar (I'm unfamiliar with tunnel terminology). QPQ not needed ―Panamitsu(talk)07:13, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "The Santa Ynez Reservoir, a 117-million-gallon water resource near the Pacific Palisades, was under renovation and empty when fires tore through the Los Angeles neighborhood last week and firefighters quickly depleted available water resources, city officials said.
The reservoir is intended to provide water storage "for domestic use and fire fighting purposes in the Pacific Palisades area" according to city documents."
... that a North Korean refugee became the "godfather of gangsta rap" by selling records at the Compton Swap Meet?
Source: [17]Wan Joon Kim didn't intend to become the godfather of gangsta rap; in the beginning, his son Kirk says, he just wanted to support his family. Kim escaped North Korea on a fishing boat, [...]
New enough (created Jan 12). Long enough (4,712 characters). Contains a dozen refs mostly from major media outlets, two scholarly articles. The hook is short enough and interesting and is supported by an NPR article, but there's a small inconsistency in whether Wan Joon Kim was an immigrant or a refugee. The article does not call him a refugee, but the hook does. This needs to be addressed. QPQ done. Sadly no images. --Երևանցիtalk16:27, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article says that he "fled the country" (as the source says he "escaped North Korea"), which I would consider to mean the same thing as being a refugee. However, I'd be fine with changing the phrasing in the hook:
ALT0a: ... that a North Korean immigrant became the "godfather of gangsta rap" by selling records at the Compton Swap Meet?
That makes sense. I guess escaped/fled the country does equal to being a refugee, especially considering it's North Korea. I'm okay with both refugee and immigrant. --Երևանցիtalk08:28, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First hook is interesting enough. I don't have that book, so AGF on it; QPQ checks out, and the article is in great shape as a recently promoted GA. No evidence of close paraphrasing through earwig (only 8%). Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Expanded 5x since 11 January and long enough, with no policy issues found. Hook cited and interesting. QPQ done. Thanks for your work; I believe we're good to go! Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that historians have described Oliver Cromwell's (pictured) decision in 1648 to launch the attack which became the Battle of Preston as an enormous gamble and hardly credible?
Source: "enormous gamble" Wanklyn, Malcolm (2014) [2006]. Decisive Battles of the English Civil War. Barnsley, South Yorkshire: Pen & Sword. ISBN978-1-78346-975-8. Page 199.
"hardly credible" Bull, Stephen; Seed, Mike (1998). Bloody Preston: The Battle of Preston, 1648. Lancaster: Carnegie. ISBN978-1-85936-041-5. Page 60.
ALT1: ... that Oliver Cromwell's (pictured) decision in 1648 to launch the attack which became the Battle of Preston was an enormous gamble and hardly credible? Source: As ALT0
Excellent article, new GA within the nomination timeframe, detailed, well-written, and well-referenced. Hook is interesting (personally prefer the ALT0 variant), in the article, and referenced (AGF on offline sources). Image is in the article and appropriately licensed (dispute notwithstanding). Took the liberty to bold the article in ALT0 and add the ''(pictured)'' in both. QPQ done, so good to go. Constantine ✍ 14:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Created by nominator yesterday, long enough, well sourced, fully referenced, accessible sources, passes EarWig, well written. (I hope this is heading to GAN.)
QPQ looks good.
Both hooks are sourced to the BBC, are interesting, hooky, and short.
Strictly the article refers to loans taken out by men. I think not specifying that in the hook is probably allowable at DYK, but let's see if we can work it in.
I much prefer ALT1, but could I suggest a slight tightening up and the inclusion of "men", to give:
ALT2 ...that a government intervened after 80% of personal loans taken out by men were to cover wedding expenses?; or
ALT3 ... that a government intervened after 80% of men's personal loans went to cover wedding expenses?
@Gog the Mild: Hi there! Thanks for the review, much appreciated; though I personally prefer ALT0, I do not mind the second hook; I think ALT3 is works nicely as being short and concise. The only slight issue though, "wedding expenses" being the boldened text implies an article about wedding costs, hence why I made it the alternate hook. I wasn't sure on how to frame it differently. If you don't think that is an issue, then I'm fine with it being the hook. Thanks! jolielover♥talk14:57, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we are allowed to be a little cheeky to create a catchy hook. The hook information is in the article and directly relevant to it. Let's see if we get any objection, if not, ALT3 it is. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:12, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Created by the nominator four days ago. It is assessed as a stub, but looks more C/B to me, so I shall boldly reassess. Long enough, well sourced, fully referenced, accessible sources, passes EarWig, well written. The article uses one source a lot, but it seems solidly reliable.
All of the proposed hooks are interesting, hooky, and short. I am happy with the reliability of the hooks' source.
Overall: New enough (moved from draftspace on 11 January); Long enough (4388 characters); Sourced and neutral; No plagiarism concerns (Earwig - 2.9%); Hook is cited and interesting; QPQ has been provided. The article seems to be in good shape apart from a few presentability issues:
The full form of DOC needs to be made known and wikilinked before using the abbreviation.
"and would communicate with it" -> "and would try to communicate with it", surely he wasn't actually communicating with a concrete statue.
"the island after DOC moved" -> "the island after the DOC moved" (same goes for every other mention of the DOC)
We do not know what "Friends of Mana" is, it needs to be elaborated that it is a volunteer group.
... that Syrian vlogger Hayla Ghazal used online humour to explore the limitations placed on women in the Arab world? Source: "When I first started my channel, I used comedy to highlight misconceptions about women and to encourage young girls to be ambitious. I would dress up as different characters portraying a typical Middle Eastern family and used storytelling to create impact." https://www.khaleejtimes.com/local-events/dubais-hayla-tv-reveals-secrets-behind-9million-youtube-fans
Overall: I fixed up some minor grammatical errors, and the only problem I can identify now are the formatting of the citation links. For the website parameter, please do not put "web.archive.com", put the website the source is from eg The Guardian, Arabian Business. Change "hello@lovindubai.com" to LovinDubai. Also, please add the URL parameter (especially since the links are not dead), and then add "url-status=live" to indicate this. The first source seems unreliable, so I would remove it and find a better source for her age - if you can't, just remove it all together. Also fix the title of reference 10.
Additionally I would change the hook to align more closely with what the source says:
ALT0a: that Syrian internet personality Hayla Ghazal used comedy to explore misconceptions of women in the Arab world?
Thanks very much Jolielover - new DYK looks good and I've fixed the references. I used the Naijia live source as it seemed the most formal, there's quite a few other places where her full birth date is listed, but they we websites like 'celebrity birthdays', etc. but I added a [better source needed] tag. Many thanks for the review Lajmmoore (talk) 16:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lajmmoore I've made some changes, however, the article is quite short, just above the character limit of 1,500; I believe this falls into WP:DYKCOMPLETE. There seems to be much more on the Arabic Wikipedia on her, so translating the text to significantly improve the article and make it look complete would be nice. I can't pass this review unless the article is significantly expanded upon, sorry; please work on this. Thanks. jolielover♥talk19:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the Arabic article is longer, but when I used Google translate to examine it, quite a lot of the article appeared to me to be extraneous detail, or from sources that I didn't evaluate as RS for English Wikipedia, or when I looked at some of the claims, they were not substantiated by the references used. One example of the latter is that her family is from Aleppo which uses this reference - which doesn't mention the city at all. In the Arabic language article, half the personal life section is about her marriage, which is unreferenced. Again in personal life, there's unreferenced detail on her education (well, referenced to Wikipedia), or the detail on her fashion business references videos on oln.tv (which seems like a promotional channel). I could go through every paragraph like this, and there would be very similar issues with all of the sections, which is why I chose not to do a direct translation of the article (perhaps I should have made a note on the talk page to that extent). I do recognise that it might appear that there is lots of useful content there, but I think if I included much of what is not in this version, editors might suggest this is article is bloated. An example of that is the first table in the AR version which is a list of her conference appearances! There is a useful point (that I do think should be included and I missed) on how she was only successful when she made Arabic-language content, and I'm just looking to see what else I might have missed, but I don't really do not have the impression that everything on AR can a) be referenced securely or b) would site well within EN articles. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Caetano Veloso and Os Mutantes were booed and pelted with food at the III Festival Internacional da Canção? Source: Dunn, Christopher (2010). "It's Forbidden to Forbid: FIC 1968". Brutality Garden: Tropicália and the Emergence of a Brazilian Counterculture. University of North Carolina Press. pp. 129–138. ISBN 978-0-8078-4976-7.
ALT2: ... that twelve musicians, including Vinicius de Moraes, Antônio Carlos Jobim, and Chico Buarque, were arrested for refusing to perform at the V Festival Internacional da Canção? Source: Cabral, Sérgio (2016). Antonio Carlos Jobim: Uma Biografia (in Brazilian Portuguese). Lazuli Editora. pp. 298–299. ISBN 978-85-7865-108-4. Resultado: a polícia, tendo à frente o seu próprio chefe, general França, e o inspetor Sena, da polícia política, saiu em campo e conseguiu deter 12 dos compositores envolvidos, inclusive o próprio Jobim.
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Comment: There are many, many interesting facts about this festival that could work. Let me know which you prefer or if there are any others that catch your eye while looking over the article. If the first one is chosen, I would love for this awesome photo of Nascimento to be used. If not, then potentially the poster in the infobox, designed by Ziraldo, could be used.
Created by Why? I Ask (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
New enough, long enough, no copyvio detected, article is presentable, images in article appear to be correctly licensed (seems like Brazil has pretty generous copyright laws; anything commissioned by a govt organization), article is well-sourced and presentable. AGF on foreign-language hook, although google translate tells me it's accurate. I prefer the orig hook to the alts. Wording and length of hook is fine. Nice work! seefooddiet (talk) 11:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the 2023 Aston by-election was the first time in more than 100 years that a government had won a seat from the opposition at an Australian by-election?
This article, promoted to GA on January 12, is new enough, long enough, and well-sourced. QPQ done. Hook interesting, cited and on the page. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 20:35, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Graham Crowley entered the John Moores Painting Prize ten times since 1976 before finally winning in 2023? Source: BBC: "An artist who has entered a painting competition 10 times since 1976 has finally won the top prize with a work inspired by a motorcycle dealership." (14 September 2023)
Overall: Looks good. Nice work. I think it might be better if the hook were to say "10 times" instead of "ten times" but I'll leave it optional. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Walter III Brisebarre, Helena of Milly, Lordship of Beirut, Beatrice Brisebarre
@Surtsicna: Had the pleasure of reading these articles, all of which are well-sourced and well-written. Dates and lengths are fine. There's one citation (Mayer 1985) in Lordship of Beirut that is missing the source in the Bibliography, unless this was a typo for Mayer 1990 which should be corrected. Other than that, you have 2 additional QPQ's that need to be done (you are showing 1 out of the required 3 currently) then we are good to pass this nom.
As an aside, I am glad someone started Lordship of Beirut; it would be good to incorporate some information there about Beirut's immediate neighbors in the hills, the Buhturids, with whom the Lordship both cooperated and fought against for much of its existence. Al Ameer (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That Mayer mistake is well spotted, Al Ameer. I have no idea what I wanted to cite there. I replaced it with another citation. I see now that Nickerson writes about Beirut's neighbors in the cited article. It would be a good addition. The QPQ shown is a triple hook, which neatly covers this triple hook. Surtsicna (talk) 21:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With new QPQ done, the additional nominated article is good to go (length and sourcing all check out and no issues of note detected). —Al Ameer (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is a newly-promoted GA and meets requirements for length and close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been provided, but the given review forgot to check for inline citation (only that it was "in the article"), so that will need correction. Not exactly a DYK issue, but the provided review also gave a green tick, even though my understanding of the situation is that it should be at least a question tick since there's an unresolved concern regarding the blue links. KBYR-TV never being built needs a citation. Both of the hooks are cited inline and verified, but ALT1 is very confusing, and would probably baffle non-American readers, so I would suggest going with the first hook. It is a "first" hook, but given contemporary reports say so, it probably satisfies the burden of proof requirement here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let me respond to each of these, Narutolovehinata5. KBYR-TV drops off the table right after they get the permit, as in by the end of 1960. I can't find proof of the permit being deleted, which is unusual. I've reworded to be a little clearer while still having an inline citation. (The fact Anchorage still lacked a "third" TV station by the mid-60s indicates that channel 13 never got going.) I felt that the linking issue, not affecting verbiage or the hook fact itself but merely linking, is not something that should forestall approval; I added a comment there. ALT1 would really be a quirky, but with the Super Bowl within a month, it might fit there, or it could be rewritten like this: ALT1a: ... that Alaska's SuperStation withheld broadcast of two Super Bowls to the Alaskan Bush? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment — The main hook kind of borders on word salad. More importantly, the GAN reviewer raised concerns about whether the manner of Bill Harpel's death is really so relevant to the overall context that it merits such a prominent mention. Choosing to ignore that advice and finding another venue to push it further confirms what I said about this being a hat-collecting exercise, rather than a sincere attempt to collaborate with fellow editors who have also been involved with building this article over the years.
The alt hook wins points for trying to be clever, but it also forces the reader to click on the article and read the whole thing in order to have the first clue of what it refers to. Items appearing on the Main Page should appeal to the broadest possible audience. A long-ago historical anomaly regarding television programming in a small handful of television markets sharing the same time zone may not be easily understood by a general audience no matter how hard you try. If you really want to go there, explaining the two-week tape delay might be a better way to go, since it had a much broader and longer-lasting impact on the station's history. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 16:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that the mayor of Anchorage, Alaska, resigned after admitting to an "inappropriate messaging relationship" with a news anchor at a local TV station?
Thanks. I think we can go with ALT3 as an interesting hook, one that is cited inline, and verified in the linked newspaper clipping. ALT2 should be rejected on BLP grounds (and is probably too sensational for DYK anyway). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Humorous that it was "Born in the USA" literally, so I thought this was a good fact to feature. On a serious note, I am seriously impressed by the quality of this article. Only my second nom, so let me know what I can do to improve.
Improved to Good Article status by Zmbro (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Both hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed. Looks ready to go. Great work!! Thriley (talk) 22:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I included both hooks for a second opinion, but my inclination is that ALT0 is stronger. If you want to verify directly from the podcast episode, the revelation begins around 36:30.
Moved to mainspace by Sdkb (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.
Overall: The article is solid and well-sourced, although I have some doubts about the verifiability of the entire list of episodes. I believe it would be beneficial to include a source, at least a primary one. Spotchecked sources 3 and 8 and found no issues. I agree that ALT0 is the more interesting hook and I am approving it. Earwig shows no copyvio. QPQ done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul）18:18, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that an apartment building that once housed North Korean soldiers, the American CIA, and United Nations troops is set to be demolished? Source: [18] source on "set to be demolished". [19] source for North Korean and UN troops. [20] "한국전쟁 기간에는 미 중앙정보국 (CIA)의 합동고문단 본부로 사용되기도 했습니다." -> "During the Korean war period, it was also used as the headquarters of the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Joint Advisory Group."
... that the song "French Letter" was banned in all French territories due to its anti-nuclear message?
Source: Turner 2024, "Herbs played... in Tahiti, where “French Letter” had been banned, as in all French territories"
ALT1: ... that despite the song French Letter being banned in all French territories, the band Herbs performed it while playing in Tahiti? Source: Turner 2024, "Herbs played... in Tahiti, where “French Letter” had been banned, as in all French territories, but where British French Foreign legionnaires sang along to it when Herbs ignored the ban."
ALT2: ... that despite the song French Letter being banned in all French territories, members of the French Foreign Legion sang along when the band Herbs performed it while playing in Tahiti? Source: Turner 2024, "Herbs played... in Tahiti, where “French Letter” had been banned, as in all French territories, but where British French Foreign legionnaires sang along to it when Herbs ignored the ban."
ALT3: ... that New Zealand radio stations refused to play the song French Letter until it was renamed A Letter to France, due to the title's innuendo? Source: Bourke 1990, "But timid local radio stations could only see a sexual innuendo in the title, and wanted it changed to ‘A Letter to France’ before they’d play it."
ALT4: ... that the song French Letter has become a symbol of New Zealand's strong stance against nuclear weapons? Source: Turner 2024, "It is regularly used today to signal the theme of mainstream radio broadcasts about New Zealand’s strong stance on banning nuclear weapons and nuclear-powered ships"
Comment: Alts 0 through 2 are variations of each other, while 3 and 4 are distinct. Haven't done a QPQ yet as it's late here, but will do one shortly and update this
Created by Turnagra (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.
Article looks good and Earwig's is clear. I'll only review ALT0 because I think it's the best. First of all I've added bolding to the link. I've also added speech marks because that's how I think songs are supposed to be formatted but do correct if I'm wrong. The hook matches the article. The source says it was banned but it doesn't say the ban was because of the anti-nuclear message. Do you have a source that does say this? Still waiting on a QPQ. ―Panamitsu(talk)06:09, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, fair point - could've sworn I'd read that but can't seem to find the source again. Perhaps one of the other alts would be better then, as I don't know how good "French letter was banned in all french territories" would be as a hook...
Well it could just say that it was banned in all French territories. ALT1: Interesting, matches source, matches article. ALT4: Interesting, matches source, matches article. ―Panamitsu(talk)22:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'd prefer ALT2 to ALT1 personally, and ALT4 is probably my least favourite - I put it in in case the other options weren't suitable. Turnagra (talk) 09:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Recently upgraded to GA status, no major problems with the article, and QPQ is met. I made a minor edit to the hook to separate "didn't" into "did not". However, I have this proposed hook that might be better. "... that Hayao Miyazaki is estimated to have drawn or retouched nearly 80,000 of Princess Mononoke's 144,000 cels?" Jon698 (talk) 14:24, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jon698: Thanks for the review and the adjustment! That hook is also fine with me, so let's call that ALT2 (sourced to Denison 2018, pp. 8–9), though my preference would still be toward ALTs 0 and 1. You've marked this as needing further work, are there any other comments you have for this nomination? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:12, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Frank Lloyd Wright paid more for a well at his Taliesin West estate (pictured) than he had paid for the land itself? Source: Secrest, Meryle (1998). Frank Lloyd Wright: A Biography. University of Chicago Press. p. 451.
ALT1: ... that Aladdin was once suggested as a name for Taliesin West(pictured) in Arizona? Source: Levine, Neil (1997). "IX: The Traces of Prehistory at Taliesin West". The Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright. Princeton University Press. p. 272.
ALT1: ... that the Fatimid Caliphate used their high-quality gold coinage(pictured) as a propaganda and political tool prior to their conquest of Egypt? Source: On use as propaganda tool: Ehrenkreutz & Heck 1986, pp. 145–146; on use as political leverage: Halm 1991, p. 365, Brett 2001, p. 304
ALT2: ... that the widespread and sub-standard imitation of high-quality Fatimid gold coinage(pictured) by the Crusader states may have caused "a loss of confidence in the Fatimid currency"? Source: Sanders 1994, pp. 85–86, with part of the quote in the article itself.
New enough (moved to mainspace), long enough, meets sourcing and neutrality requirements.
I strongly prefer ALT0 to the others as it is simple and (in my opinion) the most interesting to a general audience. It is cited and verified by the source.
The image is appropriate and meets the requirements.
QPQ done.
Cplakidas good to go. My only suggestion is that the link "gold coinage" be expanded to "its gold coinage" since it links to a specific gold coinage rather than "gold coinage" in general. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:39, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Spring Willow Society probably staged the first full-length Shakespearean play in China?
Source: *Liu, Siyuan (2007). "Adaptation as Appropriation: Staging Western Drama in the First Western-Style Theatres in Japan and China". Theatre Journal. 59 (3): 411–429. doi:10.1353/tj.2007.0159. JSTOR25070065. The significance of Lu's Othello also lies in the fact that it was most likely the first production of a full Shakespearean play in China, not a dramatization based on Lin Shu's influential rendition of the Lambs' Tales from Shakespeare.
The article notes: "One man in Hong Kong is trying to bring the original rhythm back to English. He has translated more than 150 Tang and Song dynasty poems from classical Chinese, rendering not only the literal meaning, but a rhyming scheme similar to the original—something that has not been done before on such a large scale. But Ho Chung-kin—whose book Chinese Poetry of Tang and Song Dynasties: A New Translation was recently published by Commercial Press—is no ivory tower literary scholar."
ALT1: ... that within weeks of the Olympic shooter Ho Chung Kin submitting his book about poems to his publisher, the book was available for sale? Source:
The article notes: "His uniqueness is why just weeks after he sent in his manuscript of 153 translated poems, Commercial Press has already put his 220-page book on the shelves."
The article notes: "By day, he is an assistant professor at the School of Architecture at the University of Hong Kong and a practising surveyor immersed in the cold logic of building codes and regulations. ... In the late 1970s, a friend took Ho pistol shooting at a gun club. He subsequently started going out at 6am every weekday to practise before work. He spent half of Saturdays practising as well. Years later, Ho became one of the best shots in Hong Kong and represented the city in pistol-shooting at the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles, as well as the Asian Games in Beijing in 1990."
Overall: New enough and long enough. Hook facts are cited to reliable sources; I personally like the Olympic shooter x translator approach taken by the original. Earwig shows no issues. QPQ is done. Good to go. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Scholastique Dianzinga edited a post-indepedence history of women in the Republic of Congo which discussed why women's emancipation has been hindered? Source: "Femme de lettres, Elise-Thérèse Gamassa a contribué, aux côtés de Scholastique Dianzinga et Jeanne Dambendzet, à la publication d’un bel ouvrage intitulé: «La place et le rôle des femmes dans la société congolaise, 1960-2010». Une œuvre qui dresse le bilan du parcours des Congolaises, les cinquante dernières années d’indépendance nationale et établit un diagnostic sur les maux qui freinent leur émancipation." ('A woman of letters, Elise-Thérèse Gamassa contributed, alongside Scholastique Dianzinga and Jeanne Dambendzet, to the publication of a beautiful work entitled: "The place and role of women in Congolese society, 1960-2010". A work that takes stock of the journey of Congolese women, the last fifty years of national independence and establishes a diagnosis of the ills that hinder their emancipation.') https://www.lhorizonafricain.com/temoignage-elise-therese-gamassa-une-femme-battante-qui-a-marque-lhistoire-de-son-pays/
Interesting hook. I think the island being named after Robins (I'm assuming it was named after him) is interesting too. This fact matches the source and the article. QPQ done and no copyright violations. ―Panamitsu(talk)05:44, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that up to 1827, University of Oxford students had to vow never to reconcile with Henry Symeonis, although it appears that by the 1650s everyone forgot why or who he even was?
Source: "Even by that time, one suspects that the oath was of such antiquity that no-one knew anything about it and it was thought best to leave it be ... The oath against Henry Symeonis continued in the University’s statutes for centuries after the events of 1264. ... it was finally abolished five and a half centuries later. The records of the decision taken in 1827 are frustratingly brief and unenlightening."[21]
ALT1: ... that the University of Oxford held onto its grudge with a certain Henry Symeonis for five and a half centuries, long after everyone forgot who he even was?
ALT2: ... that the University of Oxford ignored a royal command to reconcile with Henry Symeonis, put the grudge into its statutes, and held onto it for c. 550 years, even after forgetting who he was?
Really interesting article! Well-sourced, long enough, and new enough. QPQ done. All hooks cited and in the article. Though quite long for DYK hooks, I think the subject deserves it. The first hook is the most interesting in my opinion, but maybe replace "1650s" with "17th century" to make it punchier and to hew it closer to the article. Best, Tenpop421 (talk)
Source: https://www.nps.gov/hagr/learn/education/elizabeth-hamilton-schuyler-timeline.htm , "Eliza focused on preserving both her husband’s and George Washington’s legacies. She and her son, John Church Hamilton, re-organized all of Hamilton’s letters, papers, and writings, and ensured that his biography was published. She, along with Dolly Madison, worked to raise funds for the Washington Monument."
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Ali Beary (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 04:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Hook is fine, but I do wonder whether there's something more interesting that could be used? The article mentions Jin's escape being covered daily, inspiring cocktails, and a massive manhunt (or otter hunt, as it were) to try and capture her - not to mention the array of otter-related puns. Happy to sign off the current one if you really want but I reckon there are better options. Turnagra (talk) 17:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: The article is neutral, new enough, long enough, and the Earwig tool does not indicate that copyright violations are likely to be present. The claim made in the hook, which is both short enough and interesting, is supported by a citation. Additionally, QPQ has been satisfied. Overall, I see no reason not to approve this DYK submission. JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was looking to move some hooks to the prep area when I came across this. I gotta say, I really don't think this meets WP:DYKINT. Two places competing with and lowering their price a bit isn't DYK worthy from my perspective, and I'd expect it to be one of the lower view counts of the month (possibly year) if accepted. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Maria Einsmann lived under the identity of her husband Josef for 12 years and was only discovered after a work accident? Source: Weickart, p. 5
ALT1: ... that when Maria Einsmann registered the births of her partner Helene Müller's two children, she claimed to be her own husband Josef? Source: Weickart, p. 5
ALT2: ... that experts at the trial of Maria Einsmann disagreed on whether Einsmann was cross-dressing out of compulsion or for financial reasons? Source: See pp. 120–121 of the MVZ source, accessible e.g. here
Recent, long, comprehensive, well-sourced, and very attention-grabbing. This is true DYK material, Kusma. All three hooks are fantastic, but what drew me in was ALT1. If I were to suggest a hook, it would be: ALT3 ... that in 1932 Maria Einsmann won the respect of both press and court after fraudulently living as a man for 12 years to provide for her female partner and their daughters? Or something along these lines because it is a heart-warming detail. But this, if you like it, would have to be approved by someone else. Surtsicna (talk) 12:11, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Using his social security card probably was, but the only way that "assuming the identity" was covered in the trial was that Einsmann was in minor trouble for serving as witness (i.e. best man) in a civil wedding ceremony (but I haven't added that to the article so far). —Kusma (talk) 12:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: that is a simplification for the hook ("the female friend she lived with" would be more accurate). I do have a source that calls her "partner" (the PDF linked here) but perhaps it is better to avoid it to be more consistent with the rest of the article. We could go for "flatmate" or just go with "Helene Müller" without qualification? —Kusma (talk) 16:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So to make this explicit:
ALT1a: ... that when Maria Einsmann registered the births of her flatmate Helene Müller's two children, she claimed to be her own husband Josef?
ALT1b: ... that when Maria Einsmann registered the births of Helene Müller's two children, she claimed to be her own husband Josef?
Article is long enough and was improved to GA article 7 days prior so it is eligible. It is very well sourced and notable and and has no copyright violations. Both hooks are interesting but I think the main hook will draw in more people. QPQ has been done. I think it is good to go DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 14:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Very nice article, well sourced throughout and well written. I changed the hook slightly to include "billed as" to provide more clarity. Ready to go. jolielover♥talk09:29, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Cold War-era Polish sci-fi novel Małe zielone ludziki critiques colonialism while portraying "hope for Africa" as reliant on external socialist-communist and anti-colonial influences? Source: same source
Long enough, promoted to GA on 14 January, well-written and within policy. No image. QPQ done. Both hooks are fine and supported by citations to reliable sources. Should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 14:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the dog Private Chesty was demoted from Private First Class for willful destruction of government property? Source: "He was cited for “willfully… ripping and tearing up a everlast striking bag, of value of about $176.80, military property of the United States.”, same source as above, quoting a rap sheet.
Overall: The article is new enough and long enough. Source verifies hook. No copyvio detected. Hook is interesting and cited. QPQ not needed. I removed some cites from the lead. I don't see any other issues here. Both of these hooks work well in my opinion. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 08:45, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
Other problems: - Thank you for your work on the article! The hook is certainly interesting, but IMO it doesn't provide enough context to the reader, and the article doesn't mention the letter "-H-" anywhere. Are there any other possible hooks?
The article is eligible for DYK (is long enough, recently became a good article and Earwig's is clear). I'm going to just review ALT0 because I think it's the most interesting one, but if you disagree I can review another hook. I can't actually find that fact in the source, but it is in that article and I have verified the Medium article that the article cites. (This one). ―Panamitsu(talk)02:56, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that in the early 1170s Humphrey III of Toron may have been the lord of Transjordan, but he also may have been dead?
Source: "It is not inconceivable that Beatrice predeceased Humphrey, which would have made Humphrey the lord-regent of Transjordan for a brief period, though nowhere is he documented as ever having assumed this position." (Fulton 2024, p. 43.)
5x expanded on 15 January (day of nom), long enough (2521 chars), no copyvio, hook is matched to given quote, although AGF on no access to source. Article is well-sourced and presentable. Hook is interesting. Well done! seefooddiet (talk) 04:27, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, neutral and plagiarism free. Hook is cited and interesting - although I wonder if it might be 'hookier' if it was flipped i.e. ... that a venomous ... was discovered by Jill Yager? and put her at the end. I hesitated on the sourcing, as (although I not doubt her notability) it felt a little sparse on secondary material. There's a mention here & I think mentioning she has an eponymous species would be good to, see. I'd like to see a link in the article to her Wikispecies entry too (but that's just me being extra). Overall, great addition! Lajmmoore (talk) 20:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Canadian heritage minister Pascale St-Onge(pictured) was the bassist on an all-lesbian alternative rock quartet from Montreal in the early 2010s?
Overall: Photo's fine, but a bit lackluster and awkward cuz she's visibly in the middle of saying something. I'd chop the hook down to something like ALT1: ... that Canadian heritage minister Pascale St-Onge(pictured) was the bassist on an all-lesbian alternative rock quartet? since the extra info at the end doesn't really add much interest and makes the hook a bit lengthy. AryKun (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Meets all the eligibility guidelines and the hook is interesting and sourced. Proper nouns led to one source having a 25% copyvio hitrate. Did two spot checks for plagiarism with The Pillar and the Crux source without issues. Two quibbles. The Pillar article [22] notes that the Vatican has recently taken over the administration of the IVE because it continues to revere Buela, but our articles ends the story with the continued pro-Buela stance, which leaves with the incorrect impression that the Vatican isn't doing anything about it when that's not the case. Hapy to approve this once resolved. Less importantly, if the French abbey Buela was supposed to be exiled to is Abbaye Sainte-Marie de la Pierre-qui-Vire [fr], than using an interlanguage link there would be nice. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions05:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Yes, I didn't want to use "it is said that" for many reasons, but since we will never know the true intention behind the work, and that "The Universe" analysis seems to be the common practice per the museum page, and the English WP:COMMONNAME per the jawiki version and a lot of sources, I have no choice.
ALT1 is just a reworded one. Felt like using the actual article name would confuse people reading the main page, and the title is a bit cluttered.
What an intriguing article. Assuming good faith on the offline/Japanese sources, I think this is just about new and long enough. The proposed hooks are all very interesting, although I personally like ALT2 the most--how often are paintings named like so (and the reader is compelled to click, if only to find out what exactly it's a painting of...). QPQ not required. Great job ABG. KINGofLETTUCE 👑🥬10:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie: ALT0 says that a relatively unknown news anchor eulogizes his boss. That doesn't grab my attention. I initially rejected ALT2 because it was early in Couric's reporting career; not a surprise she wasn't ready for anchor. If "later" was removed, it might be more interesting. We can go with whatever you choose. Mgrē@sŏn (Talk)
@Mgreason: Reworded ALT1. I can see how ALT0 is a recognizability issue. By the way, pings don't work without a timestamp. I do have an ALT3 idea now that might be a little lighter and more approachable: Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 03:42, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ... that the movies available to Florida's first TV station were so bad early on that the host called his show "The P.U. Club"? [23]
Source: Hicks, M. A., False, Fleeting, Perjur'd Clarence: George, Duke of Clarence 1449–1478 (Gloucester, 1980), pp. 134–138, 140–141.
ALT1: ... that on 15 April 1477, Ankarette Twynho was hanged outside Warwick for poisoning Isabel, Duchess of Clarence after a trial that lasted less than three hours and has since been called judicial murder? Source: Hicks, M. A., False, Fleeting, Perjur'd Clarence: George, Duke of Clarence 1449–1478 (Gloucester, 1980), pp. 134–138; Hicks, M. A., 'George, Duke of Clarence (1449–1478), Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online edn, 2004).
Ahem, long enough! And very fresh. Sources abound, possibly even to an excess. Incredibly interesting. I am a history nerd and no, I did not know this. Images check out. Sources and paraphrasing checked as part of the FA process. The article title is problematic, as noted by several editors; my concern is that it is a bit POV-ish, so we should wait until that is resolved. I strongly recommend basing a hook on the nomination introduction you wrote here. Thank you for this one, Serial Number 54129. Surtsicna (talk) 08:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig doesn't spot any issues. Hook fact is unfortunately not supported by the source; it only says that the Francisco Mascarenhas was governor during this time, rather than the tapestries being dated to that period. It's a logical inference, but still not supported. Image has issues; it's far too detailed to really do justice at 100px. I'd recommend running without it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
^Hookway, C. J. (2005). "Skepticism". In Honderich, Ted (ed.). The Oxford Companion to Philosophy. Oxford University Press. p. 838. ISBN978-0-19-926479-7.
^Bergmann, Michael (2021). Radical Skepticism and Epistemic Intuition. Oxford University Press. p. 57. ISBN978-0-19-265357-4.
Improved to Good Article status by Phlsph7 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.
Great work here, Phlsph7. Everything checks out. And the hook is nice; short and sweet. My one suggestion would be to replace "nobody" with "no one," but it's fine either way. Arbitrarily0(talk)21:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that statements about the character Ridley's reasons for not being in the fighting game series Super Smash Bros. led to internet memes about the character's large size?
"Over the years, these words have been interpreted and re-interpreted by the community, which broadly settled on the notion that Ridley wasn’t playable because he was too big."
"When it became apparent that he wouldn’t be on Smash 4's initial roster, people mourned with an outpouring of half-ironic, half-sincere memes."
"For the past couple months, places like the Smash subreddit, Twitter, and Tumblr have seen new Ridley and Ridley-adjacent topics and memes on a near-daily basis. People comparing his size to Bowser and pondering why he couldn’t just be shrunken down a little—or even turned into a baby. People pre-mourning because they were certain Nintendo would skip Ridley again. People asking if the whole thing came from a place of sincerity, or if it was just a never-ending maze of memes"
Article has no issues as far as I see and is in good shape. QPQ has been done. I think the first hook is more interesting but could potentially be shortened. I am a fan of the second hook too but I think maybe rewording it to something like "character artist Mike Sneath took "about 20 to 25 days" to model and texture Ridley's re-appearance in the game Metroid Prime? Overall well done 😊 DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 15:12, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ done, no copyvio concerns, hook is verified, interesting, and short enough, and the article is new and long enough. Shame we can't make this a photo DYK. I do have concerns over original research in the article - especially the note that reads See Hayes 2011.[1] In spite of Hayes, there is no verifiable evidence indicating that the photo was actually published in the Daily Mirror or anywhere else during that time frame. It is possible the newspaper archives were destroyed during the war, the photo was published in an altogether different newspaper, or the relevant records are not available to the public. There isn't a reliable source to challenge this claim. In addition, a few paragraphs go an awfully long time before reaching their inline citation, especially in this section, so spreading them out more frequently would be greatly appreciated. Other than that, no concerns. Departure– (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
@Departure–: I've had multiple people try to track down the provenance of the initial photo when it was first published after 9 Oct. 1940. There's no evidence that it appears in the Daily Mirroror anywhere else for that matter. I don't think we should publish this claim without a footnote noting that the provenance is suspect. Reporters make mistakes, and while it is not our job to correct them, neither is it our job to act as unquestioning stenographers. It is claimed that the photo was published by Daily Mirror, but there is no public evidence to support this. How do you think we should note this? Occam's Razor would suggest that due to the complexity of the Hulton photo archive changing hands so many times, the paper trail was lost or distorted, resulting in this error. Viriditas (talk) 21:13, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note, I think it's a safe bet that the reporter misread the statement about the Daily Mirror in this article and connected the two together by accident. I will remove the claim in its entirety. Viriditas (talk) 21:29, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Texas nipple cactus(pictured) is so easy to grow that connoisseurs look down on it?
Source: "Mammillaria prolifera is one of the most well-known, widespread, easy to cultivate Mammillaria species, almost looked down upon by the connoisseurs of the genus, but nonetheless one of the most rewarding in the genus to grow." (Pilbeam 2000)
Interesting plant, nice expansion on good sources. The image is licensed, great and attractive, showing what is special about the cactus: flowers and fruit together. Why the hook is using "look down" I don't know but if that's what you want to say I go along. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I read the Kerrang! piece, and they made it sound exciting there, but this simplifies to "the band was ready to perform on schedule". What if we add more details (that aren't currently in the article), like the fact that they had to re-download the files for the performance, live, on stage, while the presenter was announcing them? DS (talk) 18:24, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hooks are supposed to be tight, but I can suggest ALT1: ... that technical issues in the minute before their November 2024 BBC Radio 1 performance meant that South Arcade had to set up while the presenter was announcing them?--Launchballer20:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Length is good. Newness is good - moved out of draftspace. I'm not thrilled with source #1, as it's not independent, but it's only being used to support their year of formation, and you've properly established notability. I'm similarly <frown/> re: citing their "supporting tours" to their social media, and would be more pleased if you had some more non-them sources. Citing their discography to Spotify... that's pretty standard, I think? Earwig says 17%, which is fine. Hook is cited and hooky. No pic. QPQ is fine. If you can address those issues, we'll be good with ALT1. DS (talk) 22:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was under the impression there was significantly more latitude given to non-prose content, but I've replaced one ref and taken out three others.--Launchballer15:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "From Isabel Coursier to Nels Nelsen: Revelstoke's pioneers on a pair of skis". Revelstoke Review., “Isabel Patricia Coursier was born in Revelstoke on March 21, 1906…At the Revelstoke Ski Tournament on February 7, 1922, over a month before her 16th birthday, Isabel participated in the Boy’s Class D Jump and came in third with 108.5 points, and a jump of 84 feet. This made her the women’s world champion ski-jumper.”
"Sliding, Gliding and Soaring: A history of skiing in Revelstoke, British Columbia". Revelstoke Museum & Archives. p. 18. “In 1922, at the age of 16, Isabel Coursier debuted on the Big Hill, jumping with the boys for a distance of 84 feet and setting a world record…In 1923, Coursier was presented with a Gold Medal by the Revelstoke Ski Club in appreciation of the skill and daring displayed by the only lady ski jumper in America.” (Note: Source rounded up her age)
Reviewed:
Comment: This is my first DYK nomination so feedback is greatly appreciated
Created by Pyropylon98 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
I just realized that I moved the article to the mainspace today (Jan 18) and not yesterday (Jan 17). I guess it’s not too big of a deal, I just mindblanked on when I created the article when submitting this nom. —Pyropylon98 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None of the sources seem unreliable to me, I will assume good faith on the Polish one since I cannot read Polish. Quid pro quo is not required as this is the nominator's first DYK. WP:EARWIG finds no copyright violations. Page is new enough and long enough. Hook is definitely interesting. Looks good to me! Di (they-them) (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the artist Fang Rending was likened to caged chicken after rebelling against his teacher?
Source: Zhu Haoyun (朱浩云) (20 December 2021). 岭南画派方人定的艺术及市场走向 [The Art and Market Trends of Fang Rending of the Lingnan School]. The Paper (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 17 June 2024. Retrieved 17 January 2025.
@Crisco 1492: New enough and long enough. Article is well sourced, neutral and doesn't have copyright concerns. Hook is short, interesting enough and verified (not just AGF, I read the Chinese article myself). I need to wait for the QPQ before I can give this a pass though. S5A-0043🚎(Leave a message here)03:04, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new/long enough and Earwig's is clear. Both hooks are interesting. Although the Cave Rock link should be bolded in both of them so I've added the bolding. It matches the source and article so it is good. ALT1: I've added a comma after "New Zealand" to follow MOS:GEOCOMMA. The hook matches the source and article. Everything looks good to me. ―Panamitsu(talk)22:20, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that on 18 February 1478, the King of England had his own brother executed in the Tower of London, probably by drowning in a butt of malmsey? Source: * Hicks, M. A. (1980). False, Fleeting, Perjur'd Clarence: George, Duke of Clarence 1449–1478. Gloucester: Alan Sutton. pp. 200–204. ISBN978-1-87304-113-0.* Ross, C. D. (1974). Edward IV. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 241. OCLC1259845.
Comment: This is the most obvious hook, as the story of "Butt of malmsey Clarence" is known to many, through Shakespeare, although perhaps not the historical basis for the tale.
Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.
Hook is very interesting! Article looks good, and was created within 7 days of nomination. QPQ checks out. Offline source accepted in good faith. To be less wordy, might I suggest ALT1: ... that Edward IV had his own brother executed in the Tower of London, probably by drowning in a butt of malmsey?
@Sammi Brie: This is my first DYK hook review, so let me know if anything's improper with my assessment. Article was promoted to GA status in the last seven days, and is long enough. Cited hook is interesting, short enough, and verifiable by the source. QPQ has been done. My one issue is that the source used in this DYK hook isn't cited in the article at all from what I can see, and the claim is instead cited to a different source in the article. This needs to be changed per WP:DYKCITE, which requires the claim to be cited in the article body with the same source used in the article. Once this is remedied this should be good to go. Magneton Considerer:Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Fuzhou Road(pictured) was once the centre of the Chinese publishing industry?
Source: 福州路文化街 [Fuzhou Road Cultural Street] (in Chinese). Huangpu District Government. Archived from the original on 18 January 2025. Retrieved 18 January 2025.
ALT1: ... that one could go to work, browse books, grab a bite to eat, hire a prostitute, and smoke opium without leaving Fuzhou Road(pictured)? Source: 福州路文化街 [Fuzhou Road Cultural Street] (in Chinese). Huangpu District Government. Archived from the original on 18 January 2025. Retrieved 18 January 2025.
This is a new article, which is well written, well referenced to reliable sources, and of an appropriate length. There are no copyvio issues (confirmed by reading the sources in English-language translation). The image is in the public domain, and works at a small size. The two hooks are interesting, and verified by the source(s). Both would work, but ALT0 has the advantage of being shorter. QPQ has been done. Nice work! Chaiten1 (talk) 13:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: New enough, long enough. Hook facts are cited and interesting. Earwig gives no issues. No QPQ required, but with your current rate that won't be true long. Good to go! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:51, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Clear at 100px: - The details of the photograph's subject are not clear.
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Approving the hook but not the accompanying image. The article is well-written and citations 1, 4, 5, 6, 13, and 14 were spot-checked with no issues arising.
The image provided for the hook is likely to be public domain in the U.S. and internationally, but this is not certain given the accompanying license and lack of publication details in the source provided. Regardless, the image itself is not of great quality due to the limitations of the photographer at the time. The shadows are intense to the point where the outline of Barrett's body is hard to make out. Not having the photograph may take away from the hook, but I don't think it's absolutely necessary. The promoter is welcome to disagree with this assessment.
Further, I personally find the hook interesting because it's apparent to me that playing high-contact sports with glasses is dangerous, but this might not be apparent to every reader and thus the hook might come off as unexceptional. If the promoter leans towards the latter assessment, then I suggest the nominator come up with an alternate hook that mentions the fact that he supposedly wore unshatterable glasses. Otherwise, the nomination passes without the accompanying image (under my assessment). Yue🌙06:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the Chinese silent film Lustrous Pearls has been described as blurring the differences between male and female bodies through long shots? Source: Zhang, Zhen (2005). An Amorous History of the Silver Screen: Shanghai Cinema, 1896–1937. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. ISBN978-0-226-98238-0. The latter film is emphatically about the the mobile, indestructible heroine bodies that dare challenge any natural or artificial obstacles. The film is permeated with too many long shots of feet and legs on the move and of bodies wrestling to tell the difference between the female and male characters.
Overall: Article created on 19 January, and meets the length requirement. The sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the information they are cited for—but I would note that basing the entire article on the primary source and a single secondary source is not ideal. There are no obvious neutrality issues. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. Both hooks are interesting enough (though I find both borderline) but ALT0 is not properly sourced in the article (see below) and I would like to the "long shot" question (see below) to be resolved before I approve ALT1. QPQ has been done. Some comments about the content:
The film used few intertitles, though these were presented in both English and Chinese – I don't find this on page 152 of the cited source? Did you mean to cite some other page?
The intertitles were [...] presented in an ornate Art Nouveau style. – ditto.
Although the film is set in a rural fishing village, various markers of modernity are presented, including European-style riding breeches and concrete structures. – ditto.
Huaju had established a reputation for making such "modern costume dramas" – the exact quote from the source is "modern-costume romance".
It seems to me that the citation to pp. 187–188 should be to pp. 188–189 and the p. 188 one to p. 189.
obscured through long shots of movement and fighting – does the source mean "long shot" in the sense of a wide shot or a long take here? I've seen it used to mean both and it's not entirely clear to me from context which is meant (I would have thought that close-up shots with rapid cuts would be more effective at producing this effect?). An alternative here would be to make a vaguer reference of some kind (e.g. "the way the scenes are shot" or similar).
Intertitles: You're right, should have been page 187 (the bilingual intertitle cards in Lustrous Pearls are kept to a minimum,)
Art Nouveau: Also 187
Markers of Modernity: Ditto. Seems I lost track of my page when writing that paragraph.
It's not a direct quote, but rather to indicate that the genre is non-standard (i.e., in contrast with contemporary producers of wuxia, who favoured traditional costumes). That being said, I have changed it to the exact quote.
As for sources, unfortunately 夜明珠 is quite common on the Chinese internet in reference to pearls. The string thus brings back a lot of fluff, though this snippet suggests a staircase was borrowed from another film (not in the available snippet); and this one has some plot and a cast list, which is already available in English with Zhang. A lot of other sources referring to specific works seem to be making reference to a novel/story about a young man who becomes obsessed with a Shanghainese dancer, which is obviously a different work. In English, Bao mentions that Zhang showcased his swimming abilities in several films, including this one, which is not quite about the film and probably WP:UNDUE. This is already a solid review of the available literature that I can read. There would likely be reviews and whatnot in the archived copies of Shen Bao and other contemporary newspapers, but with OCR on Chinese not being the best in these archives as well as no specific date of release, looking for them would be a needle in a haystack. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:32, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that a set of 12th-century murals(pictured) in Finja Church is the main achievement of a workshop which decorated at least 10 other churches? Source: Lindgren 1995, p. 312
Article is new enough and long enough. The sources used are reliable and primarily academic, due to language/availability barriers I will assume good faith on the offline/Swedish sources. I see no neutrality issues or potential copyvios. The hook is interesting, short enough and sourced with an inline citation. I have added a link to Church murals in Sweden as it's a good article, although it might be too much of an easter egg to be linked to a single word so fine if it's removed. QPQ is done, the image is used in the article and is correctly licensed. Potentially either this or File:Finja detlaj av norra väggen.jpg could be alternative images that make the murals more visible at smaller resolutions. Thanks for the article Yakikaki! ITBF📢11:11, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind and constructive review! I'm fine with changing the picture in the article and the nomination if anyone thinks some other is better, no problem. Yakikaki (talk) 11:55, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Los Angeles's Hollyhock House was built for someone who lived there for only one year? Source: Kaplan, Sam Hall (February 6, 1988). "Wright Stuff-In and Out of the Gallery". Los Angeles Times. p. 4.
ALT1: ... that Frank Lloyd Wright once sent sheriffs to repossess two Japanese screens at Los Angeles's Hollyhock House? Source: Hoffmann, Donald (2011). Frank Lloyd Wright's Hollyhock House: The Illustrated Story of an Architectural Masterpiece. Dover Publications. p. 100.
ALT3: ... that Hollyhock House's living room has a moat? Source: Smith, Gordon (July 15, 2005). "Wright". Daily Breeze. p. K22.
ALT4: ... that Hollyhock House was the first house in Los Angeles designed by Frank Lloyd Wright? Source: Rivera, Carla (May 30, 2000). "Popular Barnsdall Art Park Prepares to Close for Up to Year for Upgrade". Los Angeles Times. pp. B11, B16.
New enough, long enough, no copyvio in article, hook is properly sourced (found the article using Wikipedia Library), image is properly licensed to my understanding of the copyright of it. I fixed a typo in the main hook. I think I lean towards preferring the main hook, although the other hooks are also interesting. I haven't verified the ALT1 or ALT4 hooks though. seefooddiet (talk) 03:39, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that a Taiwanese livestreamer accidentally solved a missing person's case? Source: https://www.ettoday.net/news/20201109/1850439.htm "直播主「晚安小雞」於7日凌晨，至大同區廢棄醫院探險，赫然發現一具上吊屍體，且不知是否因懸吊時間過久，上、下半身更已風乾分離，警方獲報到場，比對出屍體為一失蹤男性，送往二殯後，也報請士林檢察官相驗；據直播主透露，家屬報了一年多失蹤，終於尋回家人，對此非常感激。" -> "The livestreamer "Goodnight Chicken" went to an abandoned hospital in Datong District to explore in the early morning of the 7th, and surprisingly found a hanged body. It was unknown whether the upper and lower body had been dried and separated due to being hung for too long. The police were reported to the scene. The body was found to be that of a missing man. After it was sent to the second funeral, it was also reported to the Shilin prosecutor for examination. According to the live broadcast host, the family members reported missing for more than a year and were finally found. They were very grateful for this."
Comment: Lots of interesting things about this guy, he's most notable for faking his own kidnapping but I wasn't sure how to frame it exactly in a hook.
Created by Jolielover (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.
Overall: The ALT0 is negative and against WP:DYKBLP, so ALT1 is the one I'm taking. The only problem is the controveries section, I suggest removing the "controveries" section header of the article. When that fixed, this is good to go. (Note: this is my first time reviewing, second opinion is open) Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article recently passed its GA nomination; all of its text is sourced and Earwig only flags minor instances of similar text.[30] The citations for the hooks can be found in the article (but please, in future DYK noms, provide the hooks in the DYK submission itself; it makes verification easier). I think ALTs 1 and 2 are interesting, but I can't say the same about ALT0 (it just doesn't strike me as a particularly unique factoid). Picture is freely licensed under the CreativeCommons by its creator, and is clear at a small size. QPQ has already been satisfied. I approve AL1 and ALT2. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC) Grnrchst (talk) 09:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is long (1696 characters) and new enough (moved to mainspace yesterday). Hooks are cited with reliable sources with cooperate the claims, though I don't have any preferences between the two hooks. I think it's good to go! Zinderboff(talk)20:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0's claim is different from what is actually claimed in the gamespot article. "The mod is a reference" is not the same as having "resulted in" anything. ALT1's claim about someone having 'lost their own breasts' is presenting a POV that's not apparent in the article (that top surgery results in a 'loss' of anything). The last sentence in the history section's first paragraph should be cited to something. (Honestly I'm not convinced this is even notable based on the sources present.) Urve (talk) 23:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that while George Rolph (pictured) sued six of his assailants in the Ancaster incident for ₤1000 each, the trial only awarded him ₤20 from two of the assailants?
Source: Petty, Ross (2022). "The 1826 Ancaster Tar and Feathers Outrage: Three Defendants' Perspectives"
... that in 1990, the North Korean prime minister ate at a restaurant in Seoul twice? Source: [31] "1990년에는 북한 총리 연형묵이 서울 체류 동안 두 번이나 용금옥 추탕을 먹고 간 일도 있었다." -> "In 1990, North Korean prime minister Yon Hyong-muk at Yonggeumok chueo-tang twice while staying in Seoul."
I thought the point of interest was that these two countries are enemies with each other and typically never visit each other except for in a small room on their border. The fact that during an unusual, short diplomatic trip an important politician chose to eat at the same place twice is a little interesting I think.
Alternate hook. ALT02: ... that North and South Korean politicians have expressed fondness towards Seoul's third-oldest restaurant?
Sources: Third-oldest -> [32] (see list), [33] "1973년 남북회담에서 북측 대표로 참석한 박성철 부수상이 “용금옥은 아직 잘 있습니까”하고" ->"In a 1973 North–South conference, the [North Korean representative] asked "is Yonggeumok still doing well"?, [34] "고(故) 이만섭 전 국회의장도 용금옥 없이는 못 살았다" -> "Old speaker of the [South Korean] national assembly Lee Man-seop couldn't live without Yonggeumok." seefooddiet (talk) 01:56, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that thimble cactus(pictured) is one of the most commonly grown nipple cacti because it breaks into pieces at the slightest touch?
Source: "Because of its ease of growth and propagation, and its readiness to fall into pieces at the slightest touch, this is probably the most widespread Mammillaria in cultivation..." (Pilbeam 1999)
ALT1: ... that thimble cactus(pictured) is regularly seen at plant sale events, "except paradoxically at cactus-oriented events, where it would be ignominious to offer it"? Source: "... this is probably the most widespread Mammillaria in cultivation, featuring commonly at almost any event where plant sales occur, except paradoxically at cactus-oriented events, where it would be ignominious to offer it." (Pilbeam 1999)
ALT2: ... that one subspecies of Mammillaria vetula(pictured) is one of the least frequently grown nipple cacti, while the other is "probably the most commonly grown"? Source: "Now expanded to include the well-known M. gracilis as a subspecies, this species combines one of the least grown mammillarias with probably the most commonly grown." (Pilbeam 1999)
@Tbhotch: Do you want to add that the miners died to the hooks? Without knowing about the event, they could have been trapped and later rescued. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 14:20, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Good to go with ALT2. Approved for Special occasion requested date. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 19:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Epicgenius (talk) 14:29, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
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This expansion far exceeds my expectations. You certainly did not cut corners like I suggested that you might. Truly impressive. Thank you. Surtsicna (talk) 22:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Not a particularly interesting hook as that's far from the first time somebody got upset over a network's coverage, and I've also seen other stories of reporters being attacked. I don't see what stands out about this particular case. It certainly doesn't help how this hook uses vague descriptions and needlessly hides names with WP:EASTEREGG piping. Refactoring the quote is also completely unnecessary. Try coming up with something else. On the plus side, I don't see any copyright or neutrality issues. QPQ has been provided, article is more than long enough, and was taken to DYK a day after passing its GAN. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I believe this would be the most successful of the proposed hooks, but it should be approved by another reviewer. Your thoughts are obviously welcome, AmateurHi$torian. Surtsicna (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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- Hook needs work; see comments.
Article is long enough, new enough, notable enough per WP:BKCRIT criterion 1. Still, I don't find the hook particularly interesting. How about something like
Done--Davidbena (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 18:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Expanded from 947 to 6649 in the four days up to nom, very few issues with sourcing, had to fix some close paraphrasing myself. @Cielquiparle: fix the issues and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
New and long enough, with no policy issues I can see. Hook verified (AGF because I don't believe I have access to the given source) and in the article. QPQ is done. Thanks for your wonderful work; I believe we're good to go! Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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If you like ALT1, it will have to be approved by another editor. Surtsicna (talk) 12:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
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