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This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.

To create a new nomination or to see those that are yet to be approved, see Template talk:Did you know. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Click on the link to go directly to the Special occasion holding area.

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Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 1 1 1
December 11 1 1
December 18 1
December 24 1 1
December 25 2
December 26 2 1
December 27 1 1
December 29 2
December 30 1
December 31 2 1
January 1 2 1
January 2 2 2
January 3 1 1
January 6 1
January 7 2
January 9 2 2
January 10 2 1
January 11 1
January 12 4
January 13 4 2
January 14 3 1
January 15 3 1
January 16 1 1
January 17 1 1
January 18 1 1
January 19 1 1
January 20 3 1
January 21 2 1
January 22 3 1
January 23 6 3
January 24 2
January 25 5 3
January 26 8 3
January 27 6 3
January 28 3
January 29 5 2
January 30 3 3
January 31 7 4
February 1 5 4
February 2 5 3
February 3 9 3
February 4 4 2
February 5 12 7
February 6 11 3
February 7 9 5
February 8 7 2
February 9 11 2
February 10 9 8
February 11 9 4
February 12 12 5
February 13 7 3
February 14 11 2
February 15 5 1
February 16 4
February 17 10 2
February 18 6 3
February 19 4 1
February 20 7 1
February 21 2
Total 257 106
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Nominations[edit]

Special occasion holding area[edit]

March 6[edit]

We Work the Black Seam

Converted from a redirect by Daniel Case (talk), Dobbyelf62 (talk), and Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 22:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/We Work the Black Seam; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Comment: Daniel Case This is not a review, but you're right: as much as your entries look brilliant, promoting this nom so early might prevent us from placing the hook on the date you asked for... There's always the "Special occasion area", though! As a smart alternative option, you could try to improve both the articles about the song and the strike to GA status throughout this month, and then nominate them together for DYK: still, I'd ask @DYK admins: for some advice on whether this would be a good idea or not. Oltrepier (talk) 18:25, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It wouldn't be the first time, if we went that route ... I wound up doing it with Midnight Sun Mosque when my first DYK nom was held to have been untimely, and that was suggested to me as an alternative route (I wanted it to be my 700th DYK, and ultimately it played out that way). I am not sure about the article on the strike, I certainly couldn't do it alone, but maybe help can be sought at the relevant projects (UK, LABOUR). But we do have just enough of a timeframe.

I, too, would be interested in hearing what other people think. Daniel Case (talk) 18:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Marking this as needing a full review. Z1720 (talk) 19:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Doing that now RoySmith (talk) 23:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • New enough (converted from a redirect on Dec 7, nominated Dec 12)
  • Long enough
  • QPQ performed.
  • No copyvio issues (just lots of false positives from Earwig)
  • All four hook facts verify.
  • All images are appropriately licensed (some are fair use, but that's fine)
  • No other issues noted.
  • Holding this for March 6 seems reasonable to me, but I'll let somebody else make that call.
  • all four hooks approved RoySmith (talk) 23:55, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

March 16[edit]

Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society

'Rainbow plaque' commemorating conference
'Rainbow plaque' commemorating conference

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I strongly prefer ALT1, but could it be reworded? Something like, "...the first known uses of the phrases "gender alignment", and "trans" as an umbrella term for transgender people, were at the 1974 Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society conference in Leeds?" Also, the photo isn't terribly clear at 120px - I'm guessing there are no alternatives? Prosperosity (talk) 04:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Thanks @Prosperosity: - your suggested wording was clearer, but I think the article refers to the specific phrase trans.people (I think transgender dates to 1971 in the UK), I didn't include it in a the article because of this difference. How about:
  • @Lajmmoore: This sounds better! How about rewording the sentence as ""trans.people" to describe transgender people" or something similar, like changing the word order? The phrase "trans.people for transgender people" is a little hard to parse.
  • Would you be okay with no photo for the nomination? Otherwise maybe a photo from the mid-1970s of the hotel can be sourced and added to the article? (I'm guessing photos from the event are either lost to time or have no chance of being CC-BY licensed). --Prosperosity (talk) 23:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT3 "... early use of the phrases "gender alignment", and "trans.people" to describe transgender people, were at the 1974 Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society conference in Leeds?"
Looks great! --Prosperosity (talk) 20:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • In terms of an image, I can't see an openly licensed 1970s one either on Commons or on Geograph. What I can do is see if I can take a better one of the plaque? I'd really prefer it to have an image, as they do create more visibility. I'll ping you again, once I have seen if I can get a better picture. If not we'll have to go without Lajmmoore (talk) 07:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Temporary rainbow plaque for Transvestism and Transsexuality conference held at University of Leeds in 1974, plaque made in 2018 4
    Hey Prosperosity, I took some new images, but the temporary plaque is now peeling, so although in higher resolution, it doesn't look great. Thoughts? Lajmmoore (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Urgh, unfortunately that doesn't look any better (and it's still not very legible at 100px). Even if we list it with the photo, I don't think the person who chooses the DYK photo would select either plaque photo. I'd strongly recommend we go forward without any photo - is that alright? --Prosperosity (talk) 20:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sure, not much else to do! Lajmmoore (talk) 18:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just adding a note that it would be great if it could be used on 15/16/17 March - the anniversary of the conference! Lajmmoore (talk) 10:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great, in that case the DYK is all ready to go. --Prosperosity (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

March 20[edit]

Sumner Z. Kaplan

Portrait of Sumner Z. Kaplan
Portrait of Sumner Z. Kaplan

5x expanded by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sumner Z. Kaplan; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • A nice article about an interesting figure. I concur that there has been a 5x expansion and that I find no plagiarism here. Article meets DYK-relevant policies. Good to go. Promoter please note nominator requests for hook to be used on specific date. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Regrettably, the submitted QPQ was a review with a severe error: the article had been moved from draftspace to mainspace on the same day it was nominated, so it was new enough, however the review failed it for newness reasons. Either the original QPQ will need to be re-reviewed, or a new QPQ will be needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BlueMoonset: I have passed the QPQ nomination per the findings of Skyshifter (talk · contribs).--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • QPQ review has been successfully completed; restoring tick per review above by Ezlev. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • RightCowLeftCoast, I don't think any of these hooks are that interesting to an uninformed audience—the first two definitely do not meet the standard, and the third is fairly meh. Could you please suggest some more interesting hooks? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are any of the above new hooks acceptable? If not, why not? If not, can they be approved upon?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT5 is fairly meh (a US politician opposing communism? no way!) but the other two have potential. New reviewer needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @AirshipJungleman29: It was a big deal that during the Cold War that an American Army officer opposed anti-communist legislation. At the time it was the norm for those in the military to oppose communism, not oppose anti-communist efforts.

On Beacon Hill, Mr. Kaplan did not shy from taking stands that bucked the prevailing mood. In the mid-1950s, when US Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin turned the red scare into something of a national obsession, the Massachusetts House passed a bill calling for public school teachers to be fired if they refused to say if they were Communists.
In an unsuccessful attempt to get the bill reconsidered, Mr. Kaplan questioned its constitutionality and said it turned teachers into “second-class citizens.’’

— Bryan Marquard, The Boston Globe
Therefore if there is a want for a pro-communism during the 1950s hook, alt5 which was strikethrough'd by another editor above, would be it.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 19:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh right! That'll teach me to read properly. ALT5 unstruck. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Due to delays in hook selection, this will miss the initial goal of having this hook go up on the article subject's birthday of 3 February. Therefore, once approved can this hook please be held until the anniversary of the article subject's death of 22 March?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BlueMoonset and AirshipJungleman29: Is the new review tick the appropriate tick for this nomination? Is there something wrong with the article? This delay has caused this DYKN to miss the first requested date of February 3rd, and I hope it isn't delayed so it missed the second requested date of March 22nd.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, the new review icon is appropriate: someone is needed to review ALT3, ALT4, and ALT5 since the previous three hooks have been struck; the nomination cannot pass without a review of those hooks. It is highly unlikely that it will take six more weeks to get this passed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The problem with ALT5 is that, as written, there isn't any context as to when Kaplan was, so a layreader would not know it was unusual at the time. ALT3's source says "According to Eleanor, the Kennedys didn't speak to my grandfather for years"; I'm not convinced that this definitely says that Kaplan disliked Ted. ALT4 appears in the article and is sourced, park to [3] and rabbi and brigadier general to [4], though I'd expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT4 at 'Kaplan'. I'm happy with this running on 22 March - let's roll.--Launchballer 00:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
RightCowLeftCoast, I see that you have changed the secondary request in recent comments from 20 March to 22 March, but the article says that Kaplan died on 20 March. Shouldn't this be under 20 March rather than 22 March? If not, what's the special occasion for 22 March? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BlueMoonset:My apologies for my typo. You're correct that the subject, BG Kaplan, did die on 20 March, not 22 March.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 12:35, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've moved the nom to March 20 in the special occasion section. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


March 21[edit]

Safe House Black History Museum

The safe house where Martin Luther King, Jr., hid from the Ku Klux Klan
The safe house where Martin Luther King, Jr., hid from the Ku Klux Klan

* ... that one of the buildings that houses the Safe House Museum (pictured) was where Martin Luther King, Jr., hid from the Ku Klux Klan just weeks before he was assassinated on this date in 1968? Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/alabama-spends-more-than-a-half-million-dollars-a-year-on-a-confederate-memorial-black-historical-sites-struggle-to-keep-their-doors-open/2021/10/03/77953f7e-222a-11ec-8fd4-57a5d9bf4b47_story.html "The museum consists of two shotgun houses, one of which is where King sought refuge from the Ku Klux Klan in 1968, just two weeks before he was murdered in Memphis."

Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 19:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Safe House Black History Museum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All looks good! I think the hook could be a bit more concise, but there's nothing really wrong with it and it's rather interesting! I would absolutely support this being posted on 4 April, as this is article is very relevant to that date. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC) Grnrchst (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Thanks for the review, Grnrchst! I agree with you that the hook feels longish...I tried to trim it, but couldn't figure out how. If you have any suggestions, I'm wide open! Valereee (talk) 18:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • ALT1: ... that one of the buildings that houses the Safe House Museum (pictured) was where Martin Luther King, Jr., hid from the Ku Klux Klan on this date in 1968, just weeks before he was assassinated?
Added a March 21 hook from discussion at DYKTALK. Can you approve @Grnrchst:? Bruxton (talk) 20:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Revised hook is good! I agree that the date he hid there is probably better than his date of death. --Grnrchst (talk) 21:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Approved nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 1[edit]

Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowski

Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 1 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowksi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • passerby question: is there a typo in the title of the article? i am assuming that it should be "Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowski" [underline added] rather than "Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowksi" [underline added]. dying (talk) 23:59, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, it should be Strzyzowski. The article title and hook are fixed. It looks like there are a couple references that have the letters transposed. gobonobo + c 15:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment: Hey Moondragon21, there are a few citation errors (named references defined multiple times with different content) that have been in the article since the initial translation. I'm not seeing these errors in the Spanish article. gobonobo + c 15:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Several paragraphs have citation needed tags, which I have annotated accordingly. I will review this when they are remedied.--Launchballer 00:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Launchballer ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 04:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moondragon21: Maintenance templates remedied. Long enough, new enough, no neutrality issues found, no valid copyright concerns; QPQ done. I'm pretty sure that "the media agreed that the murder case had an influence on the results" means the same as overshadow, and I don't read Spanish, so AGF on the source. That Chronology section is obviously incomplete as there is a large hole between the end of June and the beginning of August, and the prose makes mention of events happening in July. I'd like to see that section completed per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 13:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Launchballer, I have now translated July 2023. Moondragon21 (talk) 18:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fine by me. I have to ask, did anything happen on this case after August 2023?--Launchballer 19:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moondragon21: I just put "Cecilia Strzyzowski" into Google News and there appears (going on Google Translate) that there seems to be later events after August. Is there a reason they're missing?--Launchballer 11:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Launchballer. The timeline on the Spanish article ended abruptly in August but I can add later events to this timeline. Moondragon21 (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please do. Ping me when done.--Launchballer 15:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Launchballer and Moondragon21: where does this stand? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Prima facie looks good, though I'm not approving anything while I'm nodding off. I will confirm when I'm a little less sleepy.--Launchballer 02:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've altered a few sentences to shut Earwig up, but otherwise this should now be fine. Good to go.--Launchballer 09:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Note: The video on the page cited above verifies the hook fact. The wording of the hook fact was not previously in the article. I have added it reusing this English-language source from the article's timeline which also verifies the hook fact: Chaco elects governor under shadow of Cecilia Strzyzowski’s disappearance Regards, Rjjiii (talk) 03:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Marking this nomination as rejected, per a recent discussion which stated a soft time limit of two months should be enforced. At almost 12 weeks old, this nomination is well over that. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry, AirshipJungleman29, but this was approved six days ago after your previous query, and to shoot it down now seems extreme given that it has been approved. If this were still awaiting approval, I wouldn't be reverting your rejection, but it isn't. If you wish to pursue this, please take your concerns to WT:DYK. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on December 11[edit]

Ingush towers

Pyaling tower complex in Ingushetia
Pyaling tower complex in Ingushetia
  • ... that Ingushetia is often called “the country of towers" after the Ingush towers, unique medieval monuments found throughout the region? Source: In the Middle Ages, a period of revival of the tower culture of the North Caucasus began, the phenomenon of which, according to researchers, mostly manifested in the mountains of Ingushetia, which was labeled by many as “the country of towers", to the extent that in 2022 the region's tourism committee announced that the Federal Service for Intellectual Property (Russia) patented the slogan "Ingushetia — Country of Towers". link: https://gazetaingush.ru/news/komitet-po-turizmu-regiona-poluchil-patent-na-ispolzovanie-slogana-ingushetiya-rodina-bashen
    • Reviewed:

Created by Muqale (talk). Self-nominated at 06:57, 11 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ingush towers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very good first article, thank you. No need for QPQ, article long enough, cited, picture freely licensed, passes earwig, all good to go. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This hook was pulled from the Queue. The text from WT:DYK has been copy-pasted below. When this is resolved, this can be reapproved. Z1720 (talk) 16:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is uncited prose in the article, which I have marked with a cn tag. I also think the block quote at the end of the "Towers with pyramidal roofs" section is too long and opens Wikipedia up to copyright concerns. This should be summarised in the article instead. Z1720 (talk) 18:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There are more issues. The quote about the "land of towers" translates as "birthplace of towers" for me. Also, this looks like an unattributed translation from ruwiki. —Kusma (talk) 19:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello Kusma, the Russian word "родина" translates as "homeland". As a proficient Russian and English speaker, I didn't feel that "homeland of towers" was a good way to translate the slogan, so I shortened it to "land of towers". But if you feel that "homeland of towers" is more accurate, I have no issues with keeping your suggestion. Muqale⠀ོ 18:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Muqale, I think the source with "родина башен" is not sufficient for the "country of towers" claim in the hook. Speaking of sources, I just checked Dolgieva et al. p 136 ([5]), and could not see any mention of Ingushetia as "country of towers". Could you give a more explicit source that confirms "country of towers" or "land of towers" instead of "homeland of towers"? —Kusma (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Muqale: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Note: the following was posted by Muqale directly on Talk:Ingush towers rather than posted to this template; I have moved the below comments from there to here, adjusted the indentation to fit, and am pinging Kusma, who this is a response to: BlueMoonset (talk) 22:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
1. The statement in the article has a reference to the state newspaper of the Republic of Ingushetia in which the tourism committee announced the patent approval for the slogan. See here
2. Two other references to books are alse linked to this statement in the article:
a) Basilov, Vladimir; Kobychev, Veniamin (1971). "Галгай — страна башен" [Galgai: country of towers] (PDF). Советская этнография (in Russian). Moscow: Nauka (3): 120–135. (p.s.: Ghalghai is the self-name of the Ingush people)
b) Tarakanova, Marina (2023). Самые лучшие места России и мира 4D [The best places in Russia and the world 4D] (in Russian). Nalchik: Mezhizdat. pp. 50–51. ISBN 978-5-17-152205-6. (see first paragraph on page 51) --Muqale 02:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Kusma please advise if the above solves the issues. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:48, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AirshipJungleman29, these citations are enough for the "land of towers". I don't have time to look at the article thoroughly right now, please continue any re-review without me. —Kusma (talk) 19:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ALT1: ... that Ingushetia is often called "the land of towers" after the Ingush towers, unique medieval monuments found throughout the region? seems to be alright, per above, but there is still the matter of the lengthy quote Muqale, which needs to be paraphrased or cut. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suggest this little modification for ALT1 hook because I think Ingushetia deserves to be linked:
ALT1a: ... that Ingushetia is often called "the land of towers" after the Ingush towers, unique medieval monuments found throughout the region?
Since I checked Basilov, Tarakanova and Dolgieva sources and all mention "Страна башен" and "страны башен" when referring to Ingushetia, I consider the references' hook solved. Muqale, the only thing left for the hook of the article to be approved is to remove the quote from "Towers with pyramidal roofs" section as AirshipJungleman29 mentioned. --2x2leax (talk) 05:15, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@2x2leax I have removed the quote from 'Towers with pyramidal roofs'. ALT1a hook also looks good to me. Muqale 22:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ALT1a hook accepted. Congratulations! --2x2leax (talk) 03:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 24[edit]

Medicalisation of sexuality

Created by Darcyisverycute (talk). Nominated by Mach61 (talk) at 06:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Medicalisation of sexuality; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • @Darcyisverycute: New enough and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. The hook fact is in article and checks out to quote. Three passages are uncited and need citations to continue this nomination:
    • Because of this broad definition of sexual health, it has been argued to include an optimistic attitude towards sexual relationships and sexuality, and human rights issues such as "the capability to have pleasant and safer sexual practices that are free of violence, coercion, and discrimination".
    • The economic success of Viagra motivated a number of similar product trials and also prompted research into female sexual pharmacotherapy.
    • Blanchard's theories were influential on the development of the DSM-3, DSM-4 and DSM-5.
While it will be hard to do so, there are a few passages (not including some long terms of art and banal phrases) that are just a little too similar to Hectors [6]. The nominator might want to look and see if anything needs changing. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 20:03, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: I've resolved all the CN tags. Is any possible paraphrasing a dealbreaker? Mach61 (talk) 05:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: Is this hook approved? If not, what needs to be done to get it approved? Z1720 (talk) 17:46, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry for missing these pings. The CN fixes are fine. The hook is fine. But the close paraphrasing issues must still be resolved, Mach61 and Z1720. Please review the link above and reword or rephrase areas as needed where there is a lot of overlap. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 01:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: the close paraphrasing issue has been resolved. Good to go? Mach61 (talk) 21:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What's left is terms of art that can't be reworded, so yes. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 23:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 26[edit]

Mori Calliope

Converted from a redirect by Miraclepine (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 31 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mori Calliope; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough. The term unorthodox doesn't appear in the article, but I guess it's close enough so I'll give 0 and Alt1 the okay. I would also link VTuber; it's a niche subculture that most readers probably don't know. Alt2 doesn't quite convey the fact that she did a livestream consisting entirely of her begging the company—it reads more like she spent 90 minutes at the office talking to Atlus's legal department or something. And maybe there's more context somewhere, but going strictly by what the source says, to me "begging for permission to play" doesn't necessarily mean "requesting copyright clearance". QPQ supplied.
    As for the article, hmm. Approaching this as someone who has heard of Hololive and VTubing but nothing more, it was... rather confusing to follow. I know it's an inherent feature of the medium, but reading the article I have trouble trying to make sense of whether the descriptions are of the fictional character / invented persona or the real person behind them. The sources seem to take it for granted and blend them together, but Wikipedia articles need to provide context so that "the reader should always be able to differentiate between real world and fictional content", per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction. (The article is also a lot of successive dates, without quite enough context on how the their rapper/singer career was launched. Are singing VTubers something Hololive already has an established system for? I'll also note that I'm not quite convinced of the strength of the sourcing, as most of them are just brief coverage of her activities or direct repetitions of announcements.)
    All in all, I'll put this on hold pending better real-world / in-universe distinction. Please consider the other issues non-mandatory suggestions. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Paul 012: Regarding ALT2: I need to assure compliance with copyright policy and WP:LIMITED only goes so far.
Oh, and given the secretive nature of VTubers' real-life identities, the best we have that could count for real world content is real-life activities associated with the fictional VTuber identity. Hence, in order to distinguish between fictional content and real-world content, the overview section is about the VTuber's fictional persona, and the career section is about the real-life activities associated with the VTuber; I organized the page that way in line with pages like Projekt Melody and Ironmouse. Almost everything in the career section is in the context of her real-world activities; as for the sole exception: while she speaks in-character for her Crunchyroll News interview, said interview treats her like a real-life person. I have fixed the overview section in compliance with MOS:IN-U, so I'd say there should be enough distinction between fictional and real-life. In the meantime, I've linked VTuber in the hooks. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks; those small changes make a big improvement. While it would be ideal if the Overview section included more background on how Hololive creates its VTubers (right now the section could just be titled "Character", as it doesn't provide much of an overview), I'm not going to hold it against the DYK nom. The interview quote is still a bit unclear whether it's an in-character or real-life answer, but I guess there's not much we can do as that's how it comes from the source. If you want to go with the Alt2 fact, I'd say something along the lines of "spent 90 minutes on a livestream asking game developer Atlus to let her play..." (I'm still uncomfortable with "copyright clearance", as the need for permission could also be due to a number of non-copyright related restrictions.) Otherwise, I'll approve with the Alts 0 and 1. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Paul 012: I found two RS for the Persona 3 incident and have put them in the article, fixed the issue, and proposed new hooks accordingly. The Polygon source connects it to Japanese copyright law (which is infamously strict), but I think the hooks can do without it.
ALT2.5: ... that VTuber and rapper Mori Calliope spent at least 90 minutes asking video game developer Atlus to allow her to stream their game Persona 3? Source: “Atlus, please, I’m begging you, please, let me, please, let me play, Persona 3, and live stream it, please, ... That was the entirety of the livestream — Mori pleading repeatedly for over 90 minutes as thousands of fans cheered on.
ALT3: ... that VTuber Mori Calliope finally streamed the game Persona 3 more than two years after a livestream spending at least 90 minutes asking its developer Atlus to allow it? Source: "In Dec. 2020, Calli hosted a stream with one sole reason⁠—beg ATLUS until they gave her permission to play Persona 3 on her YouTube channel. For a total of 90 minutes, she could be heard repeating phrases like, “ ... Please let me livestream the game Persona 3.” ... Update Jan. 19, [2023] 6.10pm CT: Calli ... has since broadcasted her first session of Persona 3.
Hope these help. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:19, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Good to go with all remaining hooks. Slight personal preference for Alt3 as it best conveys the quirks of the event, despite being longer. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on December 27[edit]

Lucy Tun, Nieve Ella, Hannah Grae

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lucy Tun; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • For now I am reviewing only Ella and Grae as I do not feel that Tun's individual hook, nor the multi-article hook, are sufficiently interesting to non-specialist audiences. I am noting that three QPQs have been provided, one for each article.
Nieve Ella
The article is new enough and long enough. It is adequately sourced and free from close paraphrasing. I have verified the hook in the source and it is cited inline; although the salon in question was run by her mother, the hook still works especially with the context removed.
Hannah Grae
The article is also newenough and long enough. It is adequately sourced and free from close paraphrasing. I have verified the hook in the source and it is cited inline, and the hook is interesting to a broad audience.
Overall
Ella and Grae are good to go, but I would like to see a new hook for Tun as it seems too specialist to me and isn't as interesting if the reader is unfamiliar with the name of the artist that is mentioned there. Per my comment above I have struck the multihook as lacking sufficient interest to broad audiences. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nieve-Ella's Hair & Beauty
I'm going to do a little bit more work on Tun's article I think. In the meantime, I've added both an image of Ella and her salon to the article, and I'd like to submit the salon image with the nom.--Launchballer 12:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's irritating that Redlightmanagement.com probably isn't reliable, as "that Lucy Tun's inspirations include death metal and RuPaul's Drag Race" could work. I propose:
ALT4: ... that in September 2023, the British musician Lucy Tun co-organised a series of writing camps for East and South East Asian Heritage Month?--Launchballer 14:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd say that her agency profile should be okay for noncontentious information, including even hooks. Basically, as long as there's information that they probably didn't make up and isn't something that is likely to be challenged, that source should be okay for certain information. So if you want, you can go ahead with the death metal/Drag Race hook as long as you include Tun's genre to make the contrast more visible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT5: ... that the alt-pop musician Lucy Tun cites death metal and RuPaul's Drag Race as influences?--Launchballer 11:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That sounds okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Is this ready to be approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Grae and Ella were previously approved, so could roll now. If ALTs 5 and 6 are not interesting, I'll look for something else.--Launchballer 21:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT7: ... that the British alt-pop musician Lucy Tun resumed making music after being recognised on a family trip in Myanmar?--Launchballer 10:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I also don't really like ALT2, as saying she has the salon is incorrect. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:57, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't follow, sorry. I do know it now seems to be called "Nieve Ella's hair salon", but it does appear to still be open.
ALT8: ... that a hair salon in Albrighton, east Shropshire is named after the British musician Nieve Ella?--Launchballer 09:14, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Alt5 seems fine to me; death metal and Drag Race make quite a juxtaposition. I'll go ahead and give the tick for Alts 2, 3 and 5 (to run separately, as three different noms), per Narutolovehinata5's review. As for AirshipJungleman29's hair salon comment above, I don't see an issue; it's quite a usual idiomatic usage. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on December 31[edit]

Turno (musician)

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Turno (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Comment: I think ALT0 and ALT1 are pretty close to ready. I don't see ALT2 in the article, did I miss it? I like ALT0, but it's a bit lengthy. Why not just cut to the chase and say he appeared in a documentary about male suicide? Also, should his brother be mentioned? I also like ALT1, but why do we need to know the date of the range? I'm more interested in the range itself and want to know more about that. Finally, I also like ALT2, and I think it's almost perfect, but I wonder if there's an easier, shorter, more direct way to say that Skepsis began producing with the help of the grant? But it needs to be added to the article. Apologies if this is nitpicking. Viriditas (talk) 08:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"When he was fourteen or fifteen, his school won a grant from the government of the United Kingdom to embellish its music department, which ordered itself a number of iMacs with Logic Pro on them, which prompted Jenkins to develop an interest." - although perhaps that could be clearer. I left out his brother because I felt the hook was enough of a mouthful, but I can suggest...
ALT3: ... that prior to entering the UK Singles Chart with "Rave Out", Turno had appeared in a We Are England documentary about male suicide following his brother dying that way?
...and then a prepbuilder can decide whether or not to crop it; same with the date of Turno's clothing range.
ALT4: ... that the British musician Skepsis took up production after his school was awarded a government grant?--Launchballer 09:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Skepsis (musician)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Please add sources for ALT0. I'm seeing two noms and only one QPQ. Copyedits to article needed ("and a Canterbury university"..."in an July 2017"..."embellish its music department"..."a number of iMacs with Logic Pro on them"). Also, like Turno, you are over-focusing on specific dates instead of a more cohesive narrative. One problem I see is that the biographical sourcing is very weak, although I note a small blurb in Billboard. Not sure what can be done to improve this. Question to ask: would this article survive a prod? Viriditas (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Launchballer: What, in your opinion, are the two best, most reliable sources in the Skepsis article? Viriditas (talk) 08:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Much of Manchester's Finest is in its own words and MixMag is very good, although I plan to keep digging. --Launchballer 12:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: One thing that I found odd about the Manchester's Finest article was it's description of the heavy security Skepsis faced at SFO. Having traveled through there a lot, I've found their security to be one of the most pleasant. Contrast this with the soldiers holding machine guns at JFK, which I've never gotten used to and still freaks me out, that kind of description of SFO struck me as weird. I tried to find more material about Manchester's Finest and was unable to do so. I was, however, able to confirm that MixMag has been around since day one and has been cited as a reliable source just about everywhere. Viriditas (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Launchballer: Can you point me to a Skepsis or Skepsis/Turno double hook that doesn't use an interview as a source? I want to see a source similar to Bristol Post, written by journalist about the subject. The only thing I see are commercial sites which appear to be sponsors or affiliates. If you can cite me a hook about Skepsis or Skepsis/Turno that isn't an interview or a commercial sponsor, then we can move forward on this. My personal approach is to only cite interviews in hooks when the information is widely available and known from secondary sources that have already covered it. Viriditas (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've got to be honest and say I'm struggling; there's not much interesting in Mixmag, and most of the reliable sources deal with Skepsis vicariously, i.e. they either talk about Crucast or one of his works.
ALT11: ... that after losing his brother to suicide, Turno released a charity record and a UK Top 40 collaboration with Skepsis about men's mental health?
Incidentally, I did google "manchester's finest editor", which showed me links to Steven Pankhurst and Lee Isherwood, and then took up the site with Muck Rack, which shows the existence of multiple staff, ergo this isn't just some one-man-and-his-blog. The author, Martin Guttridge Hewitt, appears to be a regular contributor to DJ Mag. It's no Bristol Post, but I would consider it reliable.--Launchballer 12:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Which source supports ALT11? It helps to add them to the proposed hook. I assume it is MF, but I just want to make sure. Viriditas (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Notes
  • LinkedIn is used appropriately per WP:RSPLINKEDIN ("uncontroversial self-description").
  • Has had a single or album on the UK Singles Chart.
  • Has contributed to an album with DJ Q and Jamie Duggan that was distributed by The Orchard, a subsidiary of Sony Music.
Turno (musician)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Prefer ALT10. Please add sources for ALT0. QPQ applied. Good work on the article, but the prose is a bit stiff and robotic and could use some copyediting and prompting. For example, you don't say that Mind is a mental health charity, and you can't expect the reader to know what all of these things are without simple prompts. Also, do we need to know the exact day that his brother killed himself? Maybe the month and year would suffice. Your lead is a bit terse given all the content that you have. Anyway, just add the sources for the hooks here and we will go from there. Regarding hooks, I like ALT1, but the sourcing is really bad. I would not approve this based on the current source. For claims like this, it's best to use secondary sources establishing notability. Simply quoting the subject themselves saying "we have our new clothing range dropping today, go check that out" isn't good enough, IMO. ALT2 and ALT4 have similar problems, but I do like ALT4. I think using interviews as sources is tricky because they are borderline primary/secondary sources depending on how they are used. My own take is that for DYK at least, we need to raise the bar and demand secondary source coverage to prove importance and significance. One way to approach this is to start with the source itself. Looking at your article, you've got the Bristol Post article[7] which is a secondary source jumping off point for a hook. In other words, you have a journalist, Assiah Hamed[8] who has written about the subject. I would start there, writing a hook around what she says, not the cited quotes from the interview. There's a difference. We want to try to create hooks independent of the subject from the POV of the author writing about them. Aside from the Bristol Post, the biographical sourcing is still pretty weak. Viriditas (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The QPQ I supplied was for a double nom, so I'm using both for this. ALT0 and ALT3 use [9] for the song charting and [10] for his We Are England participation. I've attempted to loosen Turno's prose a bit; I've added an extra source specifically for the fact that he set up the clothing range, I would argue that its date is uncontroversial enough that the interview could be used for that (it doesn't really serve him whether it's seven years old or seven days). And Skepsis passes WP:MUSICBIO#C2 as Rave Out charted, although that didn't stop Dan Fable, and I should probably do some more work on it.--Launchballer 01:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. I made the QPQ explicit up above. Will continue the review later, as I'm off to work. I would encourage you to create hooks using only secondary sources like the Bristol Post. Viriditas (talk) 02:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: I think you could make a great hook about mental health (or other things) using what Hamed writes in the BP. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't pass such a hook. Viriditas (talk) 08:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT5: ... that the British jump-up musician Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to commemorate one year since the suicide of his brother, with all profits going to the mental health charity Mind? (date per UKF, everything else per Bristol Post).--Launchballer 12:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)"A year after the passing of his brother, Fabio Moliterno, Turno debuted his latest single What’s On Your Mind? , a hip-hop and grime track featuring SJ Loq, Myleedan, Phizi and Too Lippy. The follow-up D&B version of the tune, which will be released on October 10, will have all its profits donated to mental health charity, Mind. Turno (real name Francesco ‘Franko’ Moliterno) hopes that the song based on Fabio’s story can encourage other men to open up and talk. Ultimately he hopes that this can help spark meaningful discussions and urgent action.Reply[reply]
WP:DYKTRIM. That hook is over 200 chars. Aim for 70-150. Viriditas (talk) 22:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT6: ... that the British jump-up musician Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to mark one year since the suicide of his brother?--Launchballer 22:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I like it, but several things: 1) don't link to anything before your article because it will steal views. You can still do it, just discouraging you from doing it. 2) I still think you can work in the profits going to a mental health charity by chopping out "the British jump-up musician" and not directly naming "Mind" as the charity. Try it. Viriditas (talk) 22:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT7: ... that Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to mark one year since the suicide of his brother, with all profits going to charity?--Launchballer 22:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That looks good. As long as the source supports it and it's cited in the article, I will pass it. I hope I'm not going to get accused of promoting my own hook here, as you clearly created it in toto. Viriditas (talk) 22:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've done some more work on Skepsis, so it should now look a little healthier. What else do I have to do to get it promoted?--Launchballer 12:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Launchballer: Working on it now. Sorry, I've had a busy couple of days, and I'm only just now getting back into the thick of things. Viriditas (talk) 00:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Launchballer: ALT5 and ALT7 might need to be adjusted, perhaps just by removing references to the date (September 2022). BP says that it wasn't the original September 2022 version of the song that had its profits donated, but the later October 10 version.[11] Of course, there's a possibility that this was also retroactive, we don't know based on the BP source, but given what we do know here, maybe the dates aren't necessary? Viriditas (talk) 00:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That article says "The follow-up D&B version of the tune, which will be released on October 10, will have all its profits donated to mental health charity, Mind." but it also says "all profits from Turno’s recent project will be donated to Mind", which I thought meant the original?--Launchballer 08:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It honestly isn't clear what they are referring to, and that tidbit sounds like an editor failed to copyedit that part and left it in by mistake, I don't know. Wouldn't the "recent project" refer to everything after October? If we stick to just the facts that we can easily discern from the BP article, then it's clear that the original version of the song was used to raise awareness of mental health and the remix had its profits donated to Mind. Does the recent projects also refer to profits from his performance at Tokyo World? Keep in mind, one way this could easily be fixed is by changing ALT5 to " with all profits from the remix going to the mental health charity" and ALT7 to "with all profits from the remix going to charity?" I don't feel too strongly about this, but it did come to mind when I read the source. Viriditas (talk) 08:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would say that given that sources disagree, it's better to leave it off.
ALT8: ... that Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to mark one year since the suicide of his brother?--Launchballer 09:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: We could go with that, but I think what would be most interesting is just to keep it simple with a hook saying Turno lost his brother to suicide and now uses his music to raise awareness of mental health and donates money towards that cause. How you manage to say all that in one hook, I leave up to you, but I'm sure it would be a good hook, and frankly, that's what you've been trying to do all along. So maybe, forget about the name of the song and the date and focus on the essential nature of what Turno is doing. Viriditas (talk) 10:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT9: ... that after losing his brother to suicide, Turno released a charity record and released a UK Top 40 single about men's mental health?--Launchballer 10:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Perfect. No need to say "released" twice, just say "released a charity record and a UK Top 40 single". One use of "released" works for both. Add that sourced to the article (lead is the easiest place since most of that is already there, but you can add it anywhere you want) so the hook is explicit and we are good. If you don't, someone is going to say "I don't see that in the article" and it will just languish here. Viriditas (talk) 10:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT10: ... that after losing his brother to suicide, Turno released a charity record and a UK Top 40 single about men's mental health?--Launchballer 11:45, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Prefer ALT10. Review up above. Hook for Turno (musician) good to go. Viriditas (talk) 19:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 1[edit]

Robbery Bob

  • ... that Robbery Bob, Angry Birds, and Cut the Rope were published by the same company? Source: [12]: "Ever since striking gold with games like Angry Birds and Cut The Rope, Chillingo has been rapidly firing out cutesy physics-based iOS puzzlers in hopes of once again finding App Store glory."
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: This is my third DYK nomination. This one is for the 2024 WikiCup.

Created by TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk). Self-nominated at 07:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Robbery Bob; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • @TrademarkedTWOrantula: New enough, long enough and nominated on time. I spot checked references and found that they line up. The references are just ok, but many references for video games appear to be of similar quality. There is a fair use image in the article and the article is in MOS:ORDER.
Layout
  1. The hook is not in the article. There is no Angry Birds or Cut the Rope in the article. We will need to either add that information with the citation or come up with a new hook which is based in the real world WP:DYKFICTION.
  2. The Release section is just a few words and looks orphaned - can you combine it elsewhere?
  3. The sequel section is also too short to have a section - can you combine it elsewhere?
Combined sections. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 04:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just spitballing a hook idea.
I like this hook, but I'd quote the word "cringeworthy". TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 04:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TrademarkedTWOrantula: Added the quotation marks. going forward others will also make decisions about the hook punctuation. We need another reviewer now, hopefully one will come along to approve the hook both you and I approved. I hope you stick around and continue to contribute to DYK. Bruxton (talk) 05:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Source says "moments of", yet the hook implies all of it was. May I suggest:
ALT2: ... that AJ Dellinger of Gamezebo thought that Robbery Bob contained cringeworthy dialogue? (I think you can get away without quotes seeing as it's already attributed, but I'll leave that decision to a prepbuilder.)--Launchballer 10:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bruxton can you review the new hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bruxton (talk) 21:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 2[edit]

Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center

Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center in 2016
Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center in 2016

Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: It's concerning that there some references are not reliable. These are refs #7 (Tokyo Tourist Information) and #15 (Asakusa Station). If other references can be used to replace this, aside from a better hook, then we can proceed. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC) All good now. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Howard the Duck: I have addressed the referencing issues and removed the problematic sources. For the hooks, I came up with a few other options:
Hope this helps. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 05:21, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd prefer the third suggestion.
Upon checking, there are still a couple of problematic refs, this time from Japan Travel (refs #7 and #18). I suppose facts like what the motto of the building is and that you can buy refreshments there is rather mundane, but the center offering maps and brochures in other languages rather than Japanese seems important, as it gives the impression that the center also caters to foreign tourists and not just domestic ones. If that can be replaced, this is good to go. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Howard the Duck: Okay, we'll go with the third suggestion then. I have replaced the Japan Travel sources. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 00:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All good now. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Catodontherium

  • ... that Catodontherium had a prior genus name that was mistakenly thought to have been used before and therefore was replaced? Source: Classification of Mammals: Above the Species Level, pg. 406 ("'Proposed on the grounds that Catodus is preoccupied by Catodon Linnaeus, 1761. This is not preoccupation, but Catodus was a numen nudum in its earlier publication (1905) so that Catodontherium may be retained' (Simpson, 1945:147)"
    • Reviewed:

Created by PrimalMustelid (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Catodontherium; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Starting Review--Kevmin § 15:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Article new enough and long enough, though a bit dense for a lay reader at times. no copyvio issues identified and hook source verified. I think we should maybe look at wordmithing of the hook itself so it flows a little better and is a little more concise.--Kevmin § 17:59, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, we will need another set of eyes to give a verification that the new hook I proposed is acceptable then, The article overall is ready for passing, as it has no copyvio issues. is new enough and long enough, and does not have any notable rules issues.--Kevmin § 18:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Article says "the genus may have been renamed because of apparent preoccupation of a prior genus name Catodon". If the article equivocates, so should the hook.--Launchballer 18:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Launchballer Alt1 does that with the verbiage "due to a misunderstanding"--Kevmin § 19:17, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, but the article says 'may', while the hook does not.--Launchballer 20:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer @Kevmin I don't wish for this hook to be in stagnation, so I slightly reworded the sentence to comply with the hook. PrimalMustelid (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree with the rewording as it helps match the source material.--Kevmin § 00:19, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good enough for me. Let's roll.--Launchballer 14:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 3[edit]

Rana Reider

Created by Imcdc (talk). Self-nominated at 14:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rana Reider; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

References

  • I spotted a clear typo or two, and there are some minor grammar things to fix in several places in the article. Otherwise, new enough, long enough, no copyright issues, good referencing, POV is fine I think, QPQ done. Another thing, for the hook can we reword it to "... that Rana Reider has trained athletes who won an Olympic gold medal in five different events?" Clearer I think. toobigtokale (talk) 21:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @Toobigtokale: Agreed. I have added ALT1 and believe we should go with that. I have also reworded some of the article to make it clearer and hopefully clear the typos/grammar issues. - Imcdc Contact 02:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Articles created/expanded on January 9[edit]

Mullae Park

  • ... that a bust of South Korean president Park Chung Hee in Mullae Park had a Japanese Rising Sun Flag tied to it and was dragged through the streets? Source: [13] (in Korean). Relevant quote and translation: 2000년 민족문제연구소 회원 등이 박정희가 '한 목숨 다해 충성함'이라는 충성혈서까지 써서 만주국 일본군관학교에 입학했고, 이후 일본군 장교로 복무한 친일 경력에 주목해 이 흉상에 욱일승천기를 씌운 뒤 밧줄로 묶어 쓰러트려 홍익대로 가져가려다가 징역 1년 6개월 형을 선고받았다. -> In 2000, members of the Center for Historical Truth and Justice announced that Park Chung Hee had sworn a blood oath where he wrote "Service Until Death" in order to enter a Japanese military academy, afterwards, with focus on his role as a Japanese collaborator, a Rising Sun Flag was tied to the bust, the bust was knocked over, and it was dragged to Hongik University. For this a one year and six month prison sentence was given.

Created by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mullae Park; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • I just found this source in English: [14] toobigtokale (talk) 00:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Toobigtokale: Article is just long enough, well-sourced, and neutral as concerns the political incident. QPQ done. I would like to see the citation titles translated to English (with the trans-title parameter) but that's out of the purview of DYK. I trust that the act of translating each work cited will have effectively paraphrased all the sources well beyond our standards for close paraphrasing. Hook fact checks out (checking the English-language Korea Times source). DigitalIceAge (talk) 10:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Thank you for the review. I know it's a tough topic, but I feel like stories like these are important to share. Lot of unhealed wounds in Asia that are poorly understood elsewhere. I was especially careful with this article; it should follow the sources pretty closely. toobigtokale (talk) 10:24, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Joseph Pierce (soldier)

Pierce in military uniform, photographed during the Civil War
Pierce in military uniform, photographed during the Civil War

Created by TheLonelyPather (talk). Self-nominated at 00:17, 9 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Joseph Pierce (soldier); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • @MtBotany: Your suggestion is valid. I was thinking of using "Chinese" as an ethnicity, but I understand that it could be miscontrued as saying Pierce was a Chinese (or Qing) citizen. I have struck out the original hook. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 00:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 10[edit]

Ethics (Abelard)

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ethics (Abelard); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Interesting article, new enough, long enough, well-cited, and the hook fact is directly cited. QPQ done. I was able to read the closed-access journal article for the sentence corresponding to the hook fact, and it checks out. I also could not detect any close paraphrasing from said journal article. As the rest of the works cited are offline and/or out of my purview, however, I will assume good faith that they've been sufficiently paraphrased. DigitalIceAge (talk) 09:49, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 13[edit]

Jewish cemetery, Hoorn

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 21:54, 14 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jewish cemetery, Hoorn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Bernard Descôteaux

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bernard Descôteaux; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • While the hook is interesting, it is more about Nicolet rather than Descôteaux, so it may not exactly be the best option here. My suggestions are either to propose a hook specifically about Descôteaux, or perhaps try to get Nicolet to GA status so that this can run as a double hook. In addition, I'm not actually sure what the rest of the hook has to do with Descôteaux in the first place. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Not sure how I missed this. I would like to go with this hook as-is if possible. Also, I just realized that I was missing a QPQ. Adding that now. Ktin (talk) 18:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ktin: Quoting WP:DYKINT: The boldlinked article should generally be the main or at least a major factor in the hook; avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Unfortunately, I am unable to think of any better hook here. Suggestions? Ktin (talk) 07:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ktin: Unfortunately, while his career seemed impressive, nothing stands out for a possible hook to me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5:. Thanks. If nothing else, then I would want to go with the original hook as it definitely meets the interestingness criterion. What you have linked to is a guidance and not a definitive disqualifying criteria. This is evidenced by the phrasing generally be. If our intent is to surface interesting facts and lead readers to our newest articles, I think this does meet that objective. Would appreciate a review of the article and the hook as-is written. Ktin (talk) 08:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The article is new enough and long enough. The hooks is cited inline, and it is verified. A QPQ has been provided. Again, the hook is interesting, but it fails WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE given that it is not actually about Descôteaux. I checked the article for any possible hook information, but other than the awards (which I am skeptical make for a good hook even though they are impressive accomplishments) I'm afraid nothing stands out as being hooky. As such, it doesn't seem like this nomination can move forward unfortunately.
As for the hook information itself, it's mentioned as a footnote in the article and overall seems tangential to Descôteaux at best. It could probably be deleted from Descôteaux's article as it doesn't really have relevance to him. My suggestion would be, if possible, to bring Nicolet, Quebec to GA status or give it a 5x expansion to bring it DYK standards, then use the originally proposed hook for Nicolet instead. I should also note that the footnote was copied without attribution from the town's article, but that's not really the main concern here, but rather the appropriateness of the mention in Descôteaux's article itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:56, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • As noted above in my last comment, I do not agree with the use of a guidance as a disqualifying criteria. Ktin (talk) 09:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, it won't disqualify the nomination, but it's a valid reason for coming up with another hook. Gatoclass (talk) 06:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suggested alt:

If it was a major newspaper, it might work, but given the newspaper is small and niche, it doesn't really seem eyecatchy or hooky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:05, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Gatoclass: you read my mind! I was thinking of this same hook last evening. I am good with this hook. Thanks again. Ktin (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, I do not agree with @Narutolovehinata5:’s characterization that it is small and niche. It is one of the top 3-4 Francophone newspapers in Quebec. Established in 1910, the paper has quite some respect. Ktin (talk) 19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The non-Quebecois reader might not get that context, so that's gonna be an issue. It's in the guidelines that we are writing for a broad audience, not a local one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Respectfully, I disagree. I am going to ask for a different reviewer. Ktin (talk) 05:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's also worth noting, I think, that almost every source in the article mentions his editorship of Le Devoir in the headline, thus confirming it as his most noteworthy contribution.
New reviewer needed for ALT1. Gatoclass (talk) 11:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT1 needs an end-of-sentence citation, and ref 1 could do with a bit of cleanup so it actually looks like a reference.--Launchballer 12:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you Launchballer, I have added a cite to the end of the said sentence, I think Ktin will have to fix ref 1. Gatoclass (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks folks. I do not know French, and I am not able to make much of ref1 other than thinking that is refering to page 36 of a book Les cahiers du journalisme from Centre de recherche, École supérieure de journalisme de Lille, Département d'information et de communication, Université Laval with the text in double quotes being the actual phrasing. Irrespective, I have added an English language source from the body if needed. One option is to just remove the ref from the lede. The body is quoted anyway. Ktin (talk) 08:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hurray! Found the source, folks. Have updated it with the French language source as well. Passing this back to you Launchballer. Ktin (talk) 18:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good enough for me. Let's roll.--Launchballer 20:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 14[edit]

Physica (Hildegard)

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 17:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Physica (Hildegard); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • I'll review this. I don't see any problems with the article; it's well sourced, and I don't see anything that would suggest copyvio or a lack of neutrality. It is new enough and (albeit fairly close to the mark) long enough to qualify. Hook is fairly interesting. No access to the source, so AGF. Generalissima (talk) 04:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 15[edit]

Fanny Steers

Created by HouseOfChange (talk). Self-nominated at 02:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fanny Steers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Nice little article, newly written with decent sourcing. Worthy topic, good hook. Good to go! Josh Milburn (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I think better hooks can be found HouseOfChange; perhaps something about how at one exhibition her work was poorly positioned but still received high praise, or on how she was baptised and buried at the same church? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • AirshipJungleman29, thanks for your help! I want a hook that people will click on to read more about such a successful painter. Not sure how to fit the position idea, though it's a good one, into few enough words though. HouseOfChange (talk) 04:47, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 16[edit]

Thoon Kramom (1866 ship)

Thoon Kramom in 1892
Thoon Kramom in 1892
  • ... that a replica of the 1866 barque Thoon Kramom (pictured) was built for the shopping mall that now occupies its captain's company's old docks? Source: "the tall ship Sirimahannop, which is a replica of the ship Thoon Kramom that HN Andersen, the founder of East Asiatic Company, in 1883 sailed to Europe to open the teak trade between Thailand and Denmark"[15]; "Sirimahannop pays homage to its locality: Asiatique The Riverfront... which occupies a former dock of the Europe-Asia trade route ran by the East Asiatic Company."[16]
    • ALT1: ... that the 1866 barque Thoon Kramom (pictured) now has a replica serving as a floating restaurant? Source: Same as the above.
    • ALT2: ... that a shipload of Siamese teak carried by the Thoon Kramom (pictured) sold in Liverpool for a near 100 percent profit? Source: "In the autumn of 1883 Captain H.N. Andersen sailed a full cargo of teak to Europe on the Thoon Kramom... He succeeded in disposing of the teakwood in Liverpool at a near one hundred percent profit,"[17]
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Siam Niramit

Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thoon Kramom (1866 ship); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Nominated within 7 days of article creation, long enough, no copyvio issues, article sufficiently cited (AGF on Thai sources), image is PD, and QPQ done. ALT0 is a bit wordy and confusing, and ALT2 isn't that interesting. Thus, I prefer ALT1. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:37, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 17[edit]

Charlie Deakin Davies

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Charlie Deakin Davies; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Only ALT0 approved; the rest are not interesting to an uninformed reader. Otherwise, nice article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 18[edit]

Prosecution of S Iswaran

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 00:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Criminal investigation of S Iswaran; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • I know this is a nomination about a case so a similar wording might be inevitable, but the current wording does give me pause and I wonder if it might violate BLP. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't see a BLP issue with the hook. However, I changed the hook from "minister" to "cabinet minister" per the source, so I would like a response to the change from Kingoflettuce before taking this nom further. Gatoclass (talk) 13:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gatoclass There's no real distinction as far as the Singapore government is concerned. All "ministers" are members of the Cabinet so "cabinet ministers" sounds redundant IMO, but no harm done. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Gatoclass (talk) 12:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 19[edit]

Fumiya Takahashi

Created by NinetyNineDragon (talk). Self-nominated at 16:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fumiya Takahashi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: New article with good sources. No copyright violations. Interesting hook confirmed by Japanese source.CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Just caught this now: the detail about Kamen Rider Zero-One is not mentioned in the cited source. If that part of the hook is simply dropped, then the amended version of the hook can be approved. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: Is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Sorry for the delay. In addition to other distractions, I only just returned from a trip about an hour ago. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 20[edit]

The One (Los Angeles)

The One, Bel Air
The One, Bel Air

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The One (Los Angeles); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • I think both hooks need to include the fact that this is a private residence, not a convention centre or something. That is, if you have a source for that? Gatoclass (talk) 10:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • How about:
  • ALT2: ... that The One (pictured), a private residence in Bel Air, Los Angeles, sold for a national record price at auction?
  • ALT3: ... that The One (pictured), a private residence in Los Angeles, has 21 bedrooms, 49 bathrooms, a 30-car garage, four-lane bowling alley, casino, nightclub, and five swimming pools including a moat? Gatoclass (talk) 11:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Muboshgu, regarding the square footage, I don't think such a statistic would mean much to most folks, and there are already a plethora of numbers in ALT3, so it reads like overkill to me. Apart from which, it's already clear the place is huge from the rest of the description, not to mention the image. And in any case, the extra number would take the hook over the 200-char limit.

Both hooks are verified. I am AGFing on ALT3 as the source is behind a paywall. The image is good and would make for a good lead hook. it should also generate a lot of interest, if only for people to indulge their disgust at such conspicuous overconsumption. FWIW, I think the place has about as much charm as an airport lounge, but there's no accounting for taste. Cheers - Gatoclass (talk) 13:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sensible point re: the square feet. Thanks for the review! – Muboshgu (talk) 16:10, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 21[edit]

Angelle (singer)

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Angelle (singer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT2 is not interesting, so I have struck it; my preference is for ALT1, both for interest and BLP reasons. I'm not entirely sure that the article should be titled with her stage name, which she seems to have used for around six years at most and not in the past two decades, but that's not under the purview of DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's the name under which she passes WP:MUSICBIO#C2, and the name under which she has most of her coverage. Might put in an RM after this has run to be sure.--Launchballer 01:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 22[edit]

Fighting Vanguard

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 08:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fighting Vanguard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • New enough and long enough. Hook facts ALT0 and ALT1 present, though I note the article is inconsistent as to Hafez vs. Hafiz, Buidhe. Hook fact AGF on offline book sources. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Sammi Brie and Buidhe: For ALT0 the term "guerrilla war" is not mentioned in the article. For ALT1 the hook says "multiple relatives" but I only see two in our article and Hafez al-Assad's personal physician.Lightburst (talk) 15:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Sure, Lightburst, for 1) you are correct that the article does not use the exact words "guerrilla war". What wording would you suggest instead? 2) the definition of multiple is more than one. I think it's better than saying two because none of the sources have an exhaustive list of all killings attributed to this group. (t · c) buidhe 21:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Sammi Brie and Buidhe: I think my own understanding of multiple is more than two: synonyms are: numerous, many and several. So the hook should changed to "two" perhaps? And if guerrilla war can be added to the article, that would be ideal. Lightburst (talk) 21:26, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 23[edit]

Spring Lake (King County, Washington)

Created by DirtyHarry991 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Spring Lake (King County, Washington); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: ALT2 only approved; the others are not that interesting. Short article, but acceptable at 1.8kb. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

James Marriott (musician)

Created by Georgeykiwi (talk) and Launchballer (talk). Nominated by Launchballer (talk) at 11:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/James Marriott (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. I do prefer the main hook, over the alt. Very minor comment, matter of preference I guess over use of youngster, I suggest maybe as a child or as a student, since this appears to be a school production. Pseud 14 (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ALT2: ... that the British indie rock musician James Marriott played the title role in Oliver! and Bugsy Malone as a child?--Launchballer 04:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pseud 14: The Oliver! and Bugsy Malone bits were taken out of the article as trivia. Is ALT1 acceptable, or should I propose an ALT?--Launchballer 03:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I cannot find the information about Oliver and Bugsy in our article. Lightburst (talk) 03:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Reinstated.--Launchballer 09:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT3: ... that the British indie rock musician James Marriott cites inspiration from video game music?--Launchballer 09:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Are we seriously discussing putting someone's role in school play on the main page? Last I checked "interesting" was still a criterion for DYK. The original version of this article written by Georgeykiwi was much better than the current one: Launchballer's recent rewrite inflated it with absurds amount of trivial biographic details. I don't know that it's stable enough for DYK at this point. – Joe (talk) 09:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pierre St. Germain

Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Pierre St. Germain; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • "Conscripted" is a confusing word to use in this context. How about something like:
  • ALT1: ... that Métis guide Pierre St. Germain was forced to remain with an Arctic expedition he considered too dangerous? Gatoclass (talk) 01:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Somebody needed to verify ALT1, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 01:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Article is new enough and long enough. Sourcing appears reliable, no POV or copyvio concerns (Earwig percent is largely proper nouns or fairly generic phrases). I did a light CE of the first couple paragraphs to tighten up the prose, and tweaked one sentence about his presumed marriage date that bordered on SYNTH. Please be careful with writing those kinds of assumptions in wikivoice.
      Source verifies the citation; I reworded in the article from "conscripted" to "forced them to stay" for the same reason Gatoclass wanted the hook reworded. Actually, Gatoclass, how would you feel about including some description of St. Germain's role in the hook - "Metis guide" or something? It adds a little context, although it works all right without. ♠PMC(talk) 07:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
He wasn't a guide, he was a voyageur (a type of fur trader) and interpreter. But after experimentation, I think the hook is better without either of those. Thanks for the review! Gatoclass (talk) 11:18, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm aware of his usual occupations, and I won't argue if you prefer the hook without the detail, but the article does explicitly say he was hired as a guide for this expedition. ♠PMC(talk) 19:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PMC, I'd be happy to go with "Metis guide", the problem is that it isn't sourced in the article, and is only mentioned in the lede. Further down, it says he was hired as an interpreter, and according to all the sources I had access to, that's how he is described. Generalissima, do you have a source that describes him as a guide for the expedition? Gatoclass (talk) 05:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gatoclass; Houston, Houston, and Jackson (1997) calls him "Pierre, guide and interpreter for the first Franklin expedition". In the contexts of the early Arctic expeditions, guide and interpreter seem essentially interchangeable terms. Generalissima (talk) 05:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, but you still haven't added that to main body text, and it will need a cite. Gatoclass (talk) 14:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Named him as a guide in the body. Generalissima (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Added "Métis guide" to hook. All good now :) Gatoclass (talk) 17:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 25[edit]

Gogi-guksu

  • ... that the dish gogi-guksu, from South Korea's Jeju Island, developed in part because of the Japanese colonial period? Source: [21]. "These noodles come from Japan," he said. "Traditionally on Jeju we didn’t have noodles." He continued that the noodles were introduced during the Japanese occupation and were considered a delicacy only available to the affluent. Jeju did not have noodles before the colonized period because their preparation was very time-consuming. I have some sources in Korean too.

5x expanded by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 01:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gogi-guksu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I don't think the hook is that wordy. The hook is the most interesting part of the article, which is always a good thing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Olivia Olson (basketball)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 22:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Olivia Olson (basketball); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

Beethoven (Stieler)

Stieler's portrait of Beethoven
Stieler's portrait of Beethoven
  • ... that in Stieler's portrait of Beethoven, the composer's "arms are not convincingly attached to his shoulders"? Source: Alessandra Comini (2008). The Changing Image of Beethoven: A Study in Mythmaking. Sunstone Press, p. 47: "Stieler had to complete the background and body away from his model, with the result that Beethoven's arms are not convincingly attached to his shoulders"

Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Self-nominated at 02:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Beethoven (Stieler); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • This seems to tick all the boxes (AGF for the offline sources) and the hook seems interesting enough to me. My only gripe is that the lede seems somewhat lucklustre. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 09:07, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I reckon the image should be good to go too! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 09:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 26[edit]

He Tianzhang

  • ... that though the Jesuit missionary He Tianzhang despised his "sad Chinese appearance", it allowed him to circumvent the Qing's ban on Christianity and enter China? Source:
    "sad Chinese appearance" came from Pina, Isabel Murta (2013). ""Hand and Feet of Us All": Chinese and Mixed Parentage Jesuits from the China Mission (1589–1689)" (PDF). In Yu Taishan; Li Jingxiu (eds.). 絲瓷之路——古代中外關係史研究 [The Road of Silk and Chinaware: Studies on the History of Ancient China-Foreign Relations]. Beijing: 商務印書館 (Commercial Press). ISBN 978-7-100-09902-8. The fact that He Tianzhang reentered China because he was Chinese-looking came from pp. 65–66, Witek, John W. (2009). "Confucian practices and Christian principles in the Qing period: A Jesuit pastor, Francis Xavier do Rosario He Tianzhang (1667-1736)". In Philip Vanhaelemeersch; Rachel Lu Yan (eds.). Silent force: Native converts in the Catholic China mission. Leuven: Ferdinand Verbiest Institute. pp. 59–73. ISBN 978-90-814-3650-2.

Created by TheLonelyPather (talk). Self-nominated at 19:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/He Tianzhang; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • New enough, long enough, well-sourced, no copyright or neutrality concern identified, hook is interesting & cited, QPQ completed. Thanks for a great article! ~ W9793 (talk)

Hypericum grandifolium

5x expanded by Fritzmann2002 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hypericum grandifolium; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]

  • Looking over the article I find that it is long enough, neutral, copyright problem free, and well sourced. Also well written. Also I think an old QPQ is good, probably encourages more reviewing. I'm sure someone will correct me if there is something against it in policy. The only hold up for me is that I think the hook could be more interesting. Maybe with another cite to something like this paper on island endemism it could be: ALT1: "... that unlike most plants that evolved on islands the large-leaved St John's wort has become invasive on other continents?" What do you think, @Fritzmann2002? I think a little editing could make this hook-y. 🌿MtBotany (talk)) 18:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @MtBotany: I agree that there are definitely more hook-y fact that could be used, but I don't think that the part about "most plants that evolved on islands" is backed up by the article. I didn't come across that in any of the sources I used, but if you have one that says that and we could include it in the article that would be a great hook. Fritzmann (message me) 19:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Fritzmann2002:, On reflection you are quite correct, that's fact is too close to original research. I tried again looking for a source that actually investigated the relative likelihood of island endemics to become invasive vs. continental native species and came up dry.

    I think maybe a slight rewrite of your fact might work. I think just using the common English name or one of the Spanish names might perk it up slightly. I found a source for another name that I added to the article, "corazoncillo", that might improve it. What do you think? 🌿MtBotany (talk)) 18:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]