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Team Templates[edit]

I have always disliked the team templates. They just get cluttered and difficult to access. What do you think of this: {{Green Bay Packers/sandbox}}. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: Sorry for not responding sooner. I think your proposed revision is probably better than what's currently used, but I'm not entirely sold on it being the best possible set up. May I suggest moving visual media from the team history to the media section? I'm just not sure what I think the best possibly set up could be, but something can be improved I think. Sorry for the vagueness lol, but I figured a response is better than no response. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, good recommendation! I think what I was going for was twofold: (1) better/clearer organization and (2) no more hidden links in the row headers. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for all the work you do, from telling blocked users how to appeal, to the usual, to the nitty-gritty. Your work is appreciated. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 18:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, List of Cincinnati Bengals first-round draft picks, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh look![edit]

Another one! Congrats, Josh! Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks John! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Never a problem. Just hoping I'm not causing you one with that user box. Not sure what the edit meant. No harm intended. :) John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bowl MVP[edit]

I saw your last edit on J. J. McCarthy’s page. I didnt want to go off subject on the other WT post about awards, but I agree with you. I think we could do without the bowl mvp‘s. Last I was on the fence regarding New Year’s Six, but the Rose Bowl, while historic has two MVP’s, even the National Championship Game has to be formatted oddly. Adding the fact, its hard to justify including some and not the rest, and we can all probably agree the current bowl season isn’t worth accolades for the most part.

  • National Championship (2014)
  • National Championship Game MVP (2015)

Centurion Seraph (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Centurion Seraph: When we discussed including championships in infoboxes, the consensus was to only include the national championships and to leave out conference championships. We're meant to use the format of "BCS national champion" or "CFP national champion" as examples, per WP:NFLINFOBOX. Based on that logic, and applying the same logic we do to NFL highlights, we shouldn't be listing any bowl games from my point of view. After all, we don't list NFC or AFC champions. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think its funny that you corrected and directed me in a private conversation. I believe you know I don't format it like “National Championship”, that was a loose example in wanting to talk with you. But I’m also extremely impressed you covered all your bases by stating BCS or CFP (both existing in 2014). You can remove the last four letters from my last post if you want. Centurion Seraph (talk) 17:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Centurion Seraph: Nothing about this conversation is private, I actually get a lot of traffic to my talk page. I do not know you enough to know your preference or stance on capitalization issues, but regardless, that's the capitalization that we utilize. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to get technical, champion pertains to a person. As I’m not referencing somebody and only defining the championship event and award, champion would not be correct in this instance Centurion Seraph (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Did you mean to delete this archive?-- Ponyobons mots 22:09, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ponyo: I did not, so I'm very grateful you caught that! I see what happened. I deleted Donald Trump/Archive 168 and it hadn't occured to me that the talk page was the archive. That's definitely something I'm going to be watching out for in the future when I process similar CSD requests. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. That's something for me to look out for too! Anyway, no harm no foul.-- Ponyobons mots 22:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You missed one[edit]

1932 NFL championship game. Dicklyon (talk) 00:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see those were necessitated by my error here. I fixed it just now. Dicklyon (talk) 00:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was actually no 1932 NFL championship game @Dicklyon. I'm going to copy a note from List of Detroit Lions seasons, a list I promoted to featured status; Prior to 1933, the NFL determined their league champions based on win–loss percentage. After a tie for first place in 1932, the NFL arranged an extra regular season game to determine the season's champion. Based on the success of this matchup, George Preston Marshall and George Halas put forth a proposal to determine the league's champion in a championship match at the end of each season. In 1933, the NFL divided teams into two divisions, with the division champions set to meet in the NFL Championship Game. There's references at the article if you're interested in learning more. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's a prev link to 1932 NFL Championship Game, which my template change had turned red, like the others. Now moot. Dicklyon (talk) 15:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).

Administrator changes

readded Graham Beards

Bureaucrat changes


Oversight changes

removed Dreamy Jazz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351



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832LT and 106medregt[edit]

106medregt was blocked at 04:58 17 May 2024. Therefore, all drafts made by 832LT socks afterward can be deleted under G5. Air on White (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Air on White: I'm going based off the date of block of the named master. Whether they're actually the master or not can be discussed, but, that account you're referencing wasn't reported until today at the SPI. Ponyo also did not say whether it was definitively confirmed, so it's better, from my POV, to err on the side of caution and let the drafts expire and be G13 deleted if necessary unless the account has been definitively linked. If that is the original account name, then it makes sense to propose moving the case there. Until some further confirmation, I'm going to operate under the assumption that anything prior to May 27 is not G5 eligible. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Josh,

It seems the barn stars for the May backlog drive have not been awarded yet. Feel free to ping me if you need any assistance. Regards! Maliner (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We're aware that they've not yet been given out @Maliner. Please be patient. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not getting impatient. I just wanted to help out if needed. Maliner (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Trudeau category[edit]

Hello. Why did you edit my addition of the Canadian monarchists category on Justin Trudeau? Other Canadian politicians', like Pierre Poilievre and past Canadian Prime Minister have it. CGP05 (talk) 01:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CGP05: As I said in my edit summary, it's not an appropriate category. You're welcome to start a discussion on the talk page proposing the addition of the category. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award[edit]

The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia   
This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for accumulating at least 500 points during the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also this:

May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Streak award[edit]

Unnecessarily complicated Gears Award

This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for accumulating at least 150 points during each week of the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I had sent an email (didnt do via my discord it is a bit of a mess atm) but in the time I sent - the problem was solved - just a heads up if the email seemed a bit strange/strained - all is fixed. JarrahTree 16:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You reconfigured IABot to archive URLs to everything[edit]

I noticed that IABot has suddenly surged in activity since yesterday. When checking the configuration, and the change log respectively, I see you made alterations to the bot's wiki-wide behavior. Is there a recent policy change that I missed where adding archive links to both dead and live sources is desired? Otherwise, can you please explain the configuration change? —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my god, this deserves a big ol' trout @Cyberpower678. I had no idea that I had the ability to change wiki-wide configurations. Being that I was logged in, I thought this was a preference that was set specifically for requests I made via the interface. I've reversed the configuration change and I'm so sorry for any inconvenience, headache, or extra load this may have caused! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. Yes, all sysops have the power to reconfigure the bot's behavior. Being the enforces of consensus, how the bot should run on a wiki can have a changing consensus. :-) Thank you for reversing. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:09, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, I'm fresh out of trouts. I ate them all yesterday. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyberpower678: I think my confusion came into play from heavily utilizing IABot BEFORE I became an admin, and then not noticing that I was suddenly able to do something I hadn't even looked to try to do before. Woops! Lessons learned!!! Thanks for understanding :) Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, we all have our admin slip ups. I once blocked editing to all of Wikipedia because I neglected to properly clean up a spam blacklist regex entry, leaving behind a single period, which matched to everything naturally. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyberpower678: Wow! That sounds Wikipedia:Village stocks worthy based on its impact lol. It happens :) Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh oops, my mistake, I think somebody else did that on the spam blacklist. I accidentally borked the title blacklist which denied the creation of accounts and pages if I'm not mistaken. It's been a while. Here's my blunder edit. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ohhhhh yeah, that's not as bad :) Hey man im josh (talk) 17:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hey Josh, could you remove my page mover and new page reviewer rights? Thanks! – Hilst [talk] 01:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hilst: Done. Feel free to reach out on my talk page any time to request these back and I'll be happy to grant them back without question. I'm sad to see you leave the NPP but I'm thankful for everything review and tag you've done! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thank you! I'll definitely think about returning to NPP in the future. – Hilst [talk] 01:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 8 June 2024[edit]

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, List of Jacksonville Jaguars first-round draft picks, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad![edit]

I'm glad I have nothing against using the word 'congratulations'. CONGRATULATIONS, JOSH!! :) Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you John! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xbox page?[edit]

Didn't know we checked Xbox Store page for issues like this. Then we should change all the previous titles except for the first game. ภץאคгöร 17:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyxaros: I had a number of links I could have used, but, at least to me, it looks like everywhere you can order it from uses the lowercase version. That's not even counting the number of articles I found that use the lowercase version as well (with some uppercased versions mixed in as well). Based on what I found, and per MOS:CAPS, there was enough of a valid reason to reject the CSD/move request. You're welcome, and encouraged, to bring this up at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, I admit I may be wrong on the proper capitalization, but I thought it enough to merit a move discussion instead of a speedy deletion. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See this and this. ภץאคгöร 12:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nyxaros: So it seems there was support to down case to "is". Probably worth a RM by someone interested in doing so. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was some support, yes, but as mentioned, MOS:5 exists (Every verb, including forms of to be (Be, Am, Is, Are, Being, Was, Were, Been)). ภץאคгöร 16:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nyxaros: MOS:CAPS still applies. Your own links show that there's been a shift to usage of lowercase "is". Additionally, the quoted section is specifically when the title of the work includes the word capitalized, it does not automatically mean that we capitalize it. Furthermore, the stylization used by the games themselves is all caps, which is not a stylistic convention that we follow. It appears, from sources online, that it's not officially capitalized but it's not something that's been addressed on-wiki yet. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those are not "my links". I'm just showing previous discussions that still led to "Is" usage. Don't get me wrong here, I'd rather prefer "is" (for the other games too, except for the first game) since it is included in the official title. ภץאคгöร 17:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nyxaros: Fyi, I've started a move discussion. Hopefully that resolves the issue one way or another. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks but it looks like we're back where we started. The page will have "Is" despite your comments. ภץאคгöร 09:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Quarry queries[edit]

Hello, Josh,

Do you know much about the Quarry program? I basically run queries I inherited from other editors years ago and one is giving me an error message. It's worked for years and for some reason now has a problem. Would you be willing to troubleshoot the code? Thanks and I hope you are doing well this summer. Liz Read! Talk! 02:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: I'm in the same boat as you, I'm a forker! I know a bit but not enough to help with trouble shooting, I'm sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 02:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated this article for Featured List status back in early May and it doesn't look like much has been done while plenty of other lists submitted later have undergone thorough reviews. I am new to this process, but is this unusual? Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: We do typically try to support newcomers at WP:FLC, but the best way I've found to get my items reviews is to review the nominations of other users. It's tough when you're new to the area though. If you're comfortable, you could still provide prose reviews and review nominations to the best of your abilities. I think people just aren't necessarily interested in reviewing the topic unfortunately, and I think that sucks. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I am just not sure where to even begin. Several of us spent a lot of time making sure those tables are properly formatted, everything is properly sourced. Figure skating is one of the most popular Olympic sports, and I get that this isn't the Olympic article, but the World Championships are the next in line in the hierarchy of importance. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bgsu98: Are you comfortable reviewing prose? Give a read through a list and see what kind of feedback you can give, I like to think it all helps. I don't think there's anything wrong with your choice of subject, I just think it's not something that reviewers have felt like diving into yet. As one of the older lists though, it'll soon be listed as a nomination needing further attention, which should hopefully attract more reviewers. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re GTC[edit]

Hey Josh, thought I'd just post here instead. As I wanted to do my due diligence as well. So I did some digging of my own and found an example of the split approach, although this is FT. Overview of Meghan Trainor is the artist topic. Her discography article was used as the main article for two FTs. Meghan Traino albums and Meghan Trainor's Billboard Hot 100 entries. From what I've checked, both FTs aren't listed as sub topics to the Discography article in the Overview FT, but are just standalone FTs. Hopefully that is something that can be used as a reference. I understand you had already supported the nom (which is much appreciated), but thought I'd have the i's dotted and t's crossed just to be sure :) Pseud 14 (talk) 16:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Pseud 14, thanks for the follow-up! It's a relevant and good grouping for a topic, I have no doubt about that. I do think the Meghan Trainer discography one in this case can't be a subtopic because of all the extra stuff that's not promoted under one of your topics. With that said, I think, if you were interested, it'd make sense to ask at Wikipedia talk:Featured topics whether the residencies and live concerts GTs could be combined under one sub topic, or even possibly two sub topics? At least to know, right? Hey man im josh (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Told you that you could put the nomination up with your name instead of mine. In any case, feel free to support! igordebraga 11:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Igordebraga, but I'd feel weird doing so since I hadn't contributed in the slightest way. At least you're involved in the WikiProject, so it makes sense for you to do so. I wouldn't even know what to write for the nom lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not that involved, usually just seeking topics to promote or restore (albeit in Madonna's case, once the guy who nominated Vogue vanished during the GA review took upon myself to finish the process). Still, waiting for your input on the nomination. igordebraga 03:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vijay Hazare errors[edit]

FYI there are errors that cropped up due to your Rcat additions. The "avoided double redirect" template needs the parameter of the other redirect.   — TARDIS builder           11:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TARDIS Builder: I did not add any rcats to the pages. Never the less, I've fixed the error. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You did indeed, on May 24th – one, two, three, four – I was just mentioning / reminding that {{R avoided double redirect}} needs a parameter to not spit out an error. Thanks!   — TARDIS builder           03:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your kind words and support on my nomination on the Editor for the Week! It is much appreciated. Best wishes. Red Director (talk) 14:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's well overdue and I can't say enough about how much I appreciate all the work you do @Red Director! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Voyager 2 DYK[edit]

Hey, the QPQ was awaited for it. I thought I'll do it this week. — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 15:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grrrrr, my bad. Thanks for pointing this out to me @The Herald, I'll undo that. As a noobie at DYK... I've got a lot to learn! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, no probs. Happy editing :) — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]