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What are you doing

What is the reasoning for your deletion nomination of the TLI Archive? That is the worst example of tendentious editing I have ever encountered and lacks levels of good faith that is astounding. I have never done anything like that on a single thing of yours that I opposed. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 16:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

The rationale for deletion is located here, at the deletion discussion. Please post your views there, to keep discussions in one place.
Please also view the discussion at the Village pump policy page: 14-day deadline for proposals on Wikipedia project pages?, where editors disagree with your decree of enforcing a 14-day deadline for top-importance article proposals on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/tli page, upon which time nominations would be considered to have "failed."
You stated in an edit summary on the TLI page that this is Wikipedia "policy," but it appears that no such policy exists. The project page historically receives few page views (check views), and it's unlikely that nominations would consistently receive input within the relatively short time span of 14 days. Better to allow more time for people to have a chance to contribute. Hopefully this serves to clarify matters per your comment above. Please assume good faith, and keep in mind that we're all here to improve the encyclopedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 22:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
"Better to allow more time for people to have a chance to contribute."
And you're not doing this because ... ? — The Potato Hose 22:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I've withdrawn the nomination at the deletion discussion, per discussion occurring at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/tli talk page. Northamerica1000(talk) 01:03, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

You gonna answer the question, or pretend you did nothing wrong here? — The Potato Hose 02:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The deletion nomination was made in good faith. Please comment about content, not on the contributor, per the linked policy page. Please try to be more civil in your approach in Wikipedia discussions about Wikipedia content. I provided an explanation on the deletion discussion page regarding my withdrawing of the nomination. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:06, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Needs You!

Hi there Northamerica1000! I've noticed you have yourself listed as a member of the Food and Drink Wikiproject. Unfortunately it looks like the project has been slowly sliding into inactivity except for a couple of people. That makes me a sad potato, and nobody likes a sad potato amirite?

If you'd like to turn my frown upside down, can you do two small things?

First off, go here and add {{Tick}} (checkY) next to your name if you're still part of the project.

Second, go to the project talkpage and participate in a discussion about how to make the project more active, and how to go about making articles in our area of interest a lot better.

You don't want to make me cry, do you? Potatoes have a lot of eyes you know. So come on, join in! :)

— The Potato Hose 18:30, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on "List of snack foods"!

I see you've really organized the article and done extensive work on it. Thanks! --Siddharth Patil (talk) 20:33, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ksd5. The List of snack foods article would still benefit from the addition of descriptions for listings there (many remain empty). Also, please check out my Article collaboration page if you're interested in collaborating to improve articles. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 21:20, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Split of List of cuisines complete

List of cuisines had grown huge. Following WP:SPLIT, I broke it up into smaller lists (which are still pretty big):

Maybe it will be easier to bring these more moderately-sized lists to FL status. The first one that makes it may pave the way for the rest.

Getting back to List of cuisines, the leads in the sections Oceanian cuisine and Cuisines of the Americas need some work, as they don't go into any detail like the other section leads do.

Working on the lists led me to notice that there currently is no article on Oceanian cuisine.

I hope you like the new set.

I look forward to your reply. The Transhumanist 05:06, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Transhumanist: The split makes sense, and the new articles look nice. One important matter is that more links to these new articles need to be placed in other articles, so people will become aware of their existence. Clicking on the "What links here" link on the left menu of pages generates a listing of what articles link to them (if you weren't already aware of this option). So, at this time, merging the remaining content from Global cuisine remains, to repurpose that page to be exclusively about the topic of Global cuisines. Perhaps we can collaborate to create an article on Oceanic cuisine sometime too! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 05:27, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you like them. I too find the "What links here" feature very useful, especially in WP:AWB. Concerning Global cuisine, I've revised its lead, limiting its context to a type of cuisine (cuisines that have gone global), as opposed to its previous context of all cuisine. Though the all-inclusive context of the term should probably be explained, along with the scope of the rest of the article.
Since the goal of the outline department is to outline all knowledge, I'm spread pretty thin. Though I'll include your projects in the spread. I find your enthusiasm inspiring.
Keep up the good work on food and cuisine. (And hopefully throw in some nutrition.) The Transhumanist 06:32, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words. Again, feel free to help out in completing the merge of Global cuisine to the various new articles, and please keep in touch. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Portals

The Portal Barnstar
The Portal Barnstar is awarded to Wikipedians who have made significant contributions to topic portals.
I hereby award this barnstar to editor Northamerica1000 for outstanding work improving our portals. FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:44, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I know you already have portal barnstar, but your work on these is so good you deserve another. Just been looking at things like the ecology and global warming portals to get some inspiration for the one on hunger. If only the actual articles were as good as your portals. I see for example the critical main article on GW is largely based on old sources, despite the abundant recent research. If only all active editors would spend at least half as much time improving content as they do on attacking others and trying to destroy other folks work!

Thanks Feyd, and again, please notify me when the Hunger portal goes live. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 04:33, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Food & Drink Invitation template

Hello North

I moved the template to a new name with a shorter name that is in line with the other project templates. I also made a small change so that the name of the person would be a bit larger than the rest of the text.

Good job on that.

Also, may I suggest you move the information on the F&D Collaboration to the Collaboration page on the Project? Just a suggestion. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 07:32, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

The changes to the {{FD invitation}} template look nice, and thanks for moving it to the project's templates page. I'm unsure where the information about F&D Collaboration is located, so perhaps you should perform this. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 07:56, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Recovery
As a appreciation because you save many articles about relations of country once ago, especially relation between Malaysia and other countries. Thank you :) — иz нίpнόp ʜᴇʟᴘ! 22:18, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Northamerica1000(talk) 10:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks AutomaticStrikeout and Anna F. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for your submission to the April 2013 Copy Edit of the Month contest, and congratulations! For your work on Pancake house, you've earned the Gold. Great job! —Torchiest talkedits 17:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks GOCE! Northamerica1000(talk) 19:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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A cup of coffee for you

...just in case you're running short of coffee after updating the portal. John of Reading (talk) 06:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

Opps I reverted your edit at Brazil with the geo portal with a rude edit summary ....sorry I though it was the editor we are having problems with... :-(. Have reverted back...I dont think its the best link but I reacted as if it was a big deal sorry - having problem with that article and I guess i am a bit frustrated.Moxy (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

It's all good. I added Portal:Geography because the portal covers geographic topics that are within countries. Here's some examples: Portal:Geography/Featured picture/9, Portal:Geography/Featured picture/7, Portal:Geography/Featured article/9. However, I also understand the viewpoint that it's not the best fit. It's more about including a link for the "related" topic of geography in general. If you decide to remove it, I won't revert. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 20:52, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hunger relief portal

North, do you mind if we go back to the original plan and you create the portal? I posted a starter section with the info along the lines you advised at the bottom of my talk. Even if you're no longer up for helping with this, thanks for the encouragement. It was rather daunting to face up to the massive amount of work needed to achieve a reasonable level of coverage of this huge topic. Hopefully other editors might join in once the portal is in place. FeydHuxtable (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for creating the portal. It looks really good. Have a few other things on my TDL, but will certainly be doing further work to expand it. And hopefully now you've built it, they will come! FeydHuxtable (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem. To generate traffic, be sure to add this portal link to related articles: {{portal|Hunger relief}}, which creates:

 – Northamerica1000(talk) 02:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Timeline of Food

Your cup of tea, I think: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of food. Warden (talk) 08:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. I may not have time to research the topic; currently working on other stuff. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks!

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Many thanks for your contributions to the WP:Environment project pages! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 19:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again! Northamerica1000(talk) 10:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Squiddles

Hello Northamerica1000. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Squiddles, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Wikia content is CC-BY-SA. The notice at bottom right on this particular page was hidden by a blurb about a podcast, but it was there. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I was wondering about this from the start; I missed the Creative Commons tag on the source page. Sure enough, at http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Squiddles it states in the lower-right corner of the page "Content is available under CC-BY-SA." Thanks for notifying me about this. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:33, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
It comes up quite often, because enthusiastic fans try to copy the contents of specialist wikis like Wookieepedia into WP. JohnCD (talk) 21:42, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Sure, yet as I'm sure you're aware, topics on Wikipedia need to pass Notability guidelines. I had to decline the submission at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Squiddles due to a lack of any reliable sources within it at this time. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh, absolutely; when faced with vast reams of fancruft copied in from Wikia, I have often regretted that we have to go through PROD/AfD because copyvio isn't available as a quick way to get rid of them. JohnCD (talk) 20:10, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Ice luge#Ice luges as a drinking game

I don't know if you're still watching this, but you might want to read Curb Chain's latest comments regarding his removal of the sourced content you had added. postdlf (talk) 02:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

A couple of days ago I added the information back to the article in the lead, "Ice luges have also been described as a type of drinking game," because the sources state so. I didn't do so before because I prefer not to waste my time edit warring with an editor about a 12-word sentence in an article, despite the content being verified by 2 reliable sources. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:25, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
I hear what "Northamerica" is saying, and thanx a lot of your recent edits to some of the other list pages that Curb Chain has been unfortunately haunting (for lack of better term) for way too long now. It's pretty much pointless to argue points that don't really matter with an editor that's pretty obviously (to me anyways) here to cause mischief & not much else. Guy1890 (talk) 05:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Northamerica1000! DASonnenfeld gave me your username in connection with the creation of the Forestry Portal. I'm putting together Portal:Globalization and could use some help with designing the rotating portal boxes. If you would have time to help me, please leave a note on my talkpage. Thanks! Regards, Meclee (talk) 03:33, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello Meclee: Actually, I didn't create the Forestry portal, but recently updated it. Regarding Portal:Globalization, would you like me to set-up the page queues for the selected person, article and picture sections? If so, just let me know. Also, some suggestions include: 1) move the categories onto the main page in a full width box with a 30em divider, because people may not necessarily click on subpage links, 2) change the "About the Globalization Portal..." link in the intro to "Read more..." with a link to the Globalization article. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:42, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply! Yes, please, I'd like to take you up on the offer of setting-up the page queues for the selected person, article and picture sections. I was reading at the Portals page that Portal:Philosophy has their page queues set to automatically display a new article every week of the year. We definitely have enough articles and people for that, but maybe not pictures. I also like your other suggestions. Thanks! Regards, Meclee (talk) 03:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I've created:

All have 10 subpages formatted at this time. To add more, just copy and paste the template from a current entry to more subpages. I'm not versed in setting up the queues to load a new article every week. I've seen instances where portals aren't maintained and then the weekly selections become red links as a result, so it may be easier just to have the the purge (view new selections) in place on the main page (it's currently there) so viewers can shuffle to new entries. More to come soon. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Added cats to main page. Rewrote "More about the portal" to "Read more..." with link to Globalization article. I'll make some touch-ups here and there if I can find anything to improve. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:23, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Also created Portal:Globalization/Did you know, so it's present and ready if you'd like to utilize it. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt help! I'll get up-to-speed on this portal stuff, yet! Regards, Meclee (talk) 04:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
No problemo. Have fun! Northamerica1000(talk) 04:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Formatted {{Portal|Globalization}}, which creates:

Add it to related articles, typically in See also sections.  – Northamerica1000(talk) 06:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Super! Thanks! Meclee (talk) 06:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
My pleasure. Northamerica1000(talk) 06:17, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Truly awesome! Thanks for all your contributions, including most recently to Portal:Globalization. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:33, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the star, DA Sonnenfeld. It is appreciated. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 11:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
I second DA Sonnenfeld! Thanks for your help! Meclee (talk) 21:22, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

2013 Southeast Asian haze

Hi Northamerica1000, I think you also might interested in helping us on this environment disaster article. :) — иz нίpнόp ʜᴇʟᴘ! 18:16, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Northamerica1000. :) — иz нίpнόp ʜᴇʟᴘ! 18:40, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification. Northamerica1000(talk) 18:47, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Psst

Don't look now, but I added a bit to your Chicken harvester and put it up at DYK, for your upcoming birthday. Drmies (talk) 03:20, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Drmies for expanding the article; great work expanding the (now previous) stub. Also, nice idea to nominate for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/Chicken harvester, since your expansion has qualified it per length requirements there. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 09:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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Greetings From Turkey

Hello, I'm from the Turkish Wikipedia and for a few days we are trying to make a new team about Wikipedia:Cleanup. We are about to complete the team. But we have some questions about the cleanup process. What does the users in Wikipedia:Cleanup actually do? What should we understand from cleanup? I would be pleasured if you can give me a feedback. Nice day! Talha Samil Cakir--85.102.185.224 (talk) 22:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello Talha: Check out Wikipedia:Cleanup, which covers, "page layout, wikification, spelling, grammar, typographical errors, tone, and sourcing." Additionally, more information is in the introduction to the project at the top of the page. Northamerica1000(talk) 15:46, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

FYI

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A barnstar for you!

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For your nom at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ludmilla Brazil. Bearian (talk) 17:53, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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Ta

Thanks for the swell barnstar. I'm in the process of mugging some information from Russian WP — do you know the proper way to attribute that as a source? It's not a straight translation but I am snagging biographical bits and rearranging them into a new narrative... Carrite (talk) 06:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello Carrite: Check out Copying from other Wikimedia Projects, a section of the Copying within Wikipedia page. There's also more useful information at Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. Northamerica1000(talk) 16:39, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I was able to locate the original published Russian-language source, which solved all problems at the moment, but the links are appreciated. —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 17:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Glad to provide them; happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 17:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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Spread Co

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Citations in leads, convenience foods

When rewriting the lead of an article, you don't need to cite it. The lead, per WP:Lead, is a summary of the article it is introducing. So unless you're dealing with really contentious information, the citations should be in the body.

Good job expanding this, you should also restore the lead to its previous length and format to separate the ideas into individual paragraphs. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 19:25, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I am aware of this, and have updated Convenience food accordingly. I was planning on holding off until I was done expanding the article, but it actually didn't take much time to reformat the lead and article. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 19:44, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the updates. Please feel free to send me updates to any of the projects you help coordinate that I am a member of. I always end up getting distracted with other issues.--Amadscientist (talk) 18:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 01:43, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Closing 'Pakeha Party' deletion discussion

According to the non-admin closing policy, it isn't only consensus but also "taking account of Wikipedia policies and guidelines" which have been cited in the arguments made, and non-admin closing should be avoided for controversial subjects. Discussion was still on-going and points being made. I would prefer an admin to consider the issues and points raised before closing.121.74.249.43 (talk) 02:48, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Some editors stated that the topic has received enough coverage in reliable sources to qualify an article, and others have stated that it has not, and the number of editors opining either way is just about 50/50 (I know that AfD is not an !vote count, and I took all of the arguments into consideration). This is why I closed it as no consensus. Per your request, I have reopened the AfD discussion; no problem! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 03:31, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakeha Party was closed again as no consensus on 22 July 2013 (UTC). Northamerica1000(talk) 13:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Donegal

Hi, I'm curious - you recently added Cranford, Donegal to the 'See also' section of the above article - why? Cranford is in County Donegal, but there is no obvious connection to Donegal Town. Regards Denisarona (talk) 06:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I've removed the link for Cranford, Donegal from Donegal, and added it to County Donegal. Northamerica1000(talk) 06:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome. Denisarona (talk) 14:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

List of whisky brands

First off, thanks for the barnstar! Appreciate that. Regarding the revert you made to my edit, you might have seen that User:Oknazevad has reverted it back. Just wanted to apologize for not writing an edit summary, and being more clear about my change. Not many editors edit the Indian whisky section, so I kind of thought a minor move would go unnoticed. BigJolly9 (talk) 07:56, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

On the surface it appeared as an unexplained removal of content. I saw the edit summary in the subsequent revert with explanation, and then after checking out your other contributions to List of whisky brands, decided to give you the star. Thanks for improving the article! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 08:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

MIL-W-46374 section blanking

Why did you remove the properly marked quotations on the mil-w-46374 page claiming copyvio?

ThanksTeeTylerToe (talk) 10:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

There were too many copy/paste copyright violations in the article, despite the information being denoted with quotation marks. Per Wikipedia:Copyright violations, brief quotations are allowed per the Wikipedia:Non-free content guideline (where it states in part in this second link, "There is no automatic entitlement to use non-free content in an article or elsewhere on Wikipedia. Articles and other Wikipedia pages may, in accordance with the guideline, use brief verbatim textual excerpts from copyrighted media, properly attributed or cited to its original source or author, and specifically indicated as direct quotations via quotation marks...), but significant portions of the article had verbatim copy/pasted information from non-free sources. Some of the verbatim copyvios were short paragraphs, and hence unacceptable. I left a couple of quotes in the MIL-W-46374 article, but removed the longer ones per these policies. One can still utilize the various sources, which I retained in the references section as listed sources, but the information needs to be written in a non-plagiarism type of manner. Hope this helps to clarify my edits there. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
One quote you deleted was a single sentence. By "a significant portion" do you mean 9 sentences in one place and another 1 sentence in another place in a 10,000 byte article making roughly 2% of the article? Also, the 9 sentence quote perfectly fit the usage of quotes, it provided the author's opinion about the evolution of watch dial fonts. Doing it any other way would have been skirting original research. I do see you left in two quotes that were added for expediency, a much weaker argument for non free use. Also, why do you put "quote" in text in front of quotations? Anything less than one sentence almost wouldn't qualify as a quote in the first place, and even that wasn't "brief" enough for your arbitrary standards. I'd rather not leave the section blanked, so please fill the section in a bit. As for I think your leaving a tag that the subject is trivial, watches were the supercomputers of the 1940s. Watches are how passenger airplanes and bombers were able to fly from place to place. I wouldn't really call that trivial.TeeTylerToe (talk) 12:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I've restored a single-line quote that I removed from the article. I hesitate to restore more direct-quote information, because doing so is within the realm of copyright infringement, which is a serious matter on Wikipedia. It's important for Wikipedia content to respect copyright. The word "quote" was placed to denote that it's a quote from a source. Again, feel free to use the sources, but it's always better to rewrite the information to eliminate plagiarism. I don't have time right now to populate the Dial font section of the article with fresh text that is non-plagiarized or in copyright infringement, but please feel free to do so yourself, since you appear to have a strong interest in the topic. The entire Dial font section in the article (diff page) was copy/pasted verbatim from a source, and was clearly a copyright infringement due to the length of the text, regardless of the quotation marks that were present. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Dunjeon Station

Thank you for your message on my talk page. I am responding here, since you asked me to do so, although in my opinion it is almost always better to reply to a message on the page where that message was posted, to avoid difficulty in following fragmented conversations. You say that you have "un-reviewed" Dunjeon Station. Why have you done that? JamesBWatson (talk) 13:16, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

The message you received was automatically sent when un-reviewing an article using Wikipedia's page curation. The reason I un-reviewed it is because no sources are present in the article. Wikipedia articles require sources to verify content. Part of the reviewing process is to ensure that articles are factual, and without any sources present in the article to confirm this, it shouldn't have been marked as reviewed. Also, the article is tagged with the topic possibly being non-notable per WP:GNG (which you placed). Plainly put, the article needs sources to attain a proper "reviewed" status. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I see that I have fallen victim to one of the recent changes to the way Wikipedia works. I had assumed that the protocol for clicking on the link to review a new page was the same as it used to be under the old new pages patrol years ago, where clicking the link in effect meant "I have reviewed the page, and I have either decided that it is OK, or else decided that it is not OK, and decided on appropriate action to take about it", but I now find instead that it is supposed to mean something more like "I have reviewed the page, and I have decided that it is OK." The change seems pretty daft to me, because it means that if there are serious problems with a new page, no matter how many editors have checked it, seen the problems, and taken action such as tagging it for improvements, watchlisting it, posting messages about the problems to the creator of the article, maybe even nominating it for deletion, etc etc, the page will still be left on the unreviewed list, wasting the time of other people who come along to review a page that is already being dealt with. However, I suppose I will try to follow the new protocol in the future, now that you have drawn my attention to it. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:42, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Upon review, the Wikipedia:New pages patrol page has received some relatively new changes. The page now focuses more upon whether or not articles immediately qualify for speedy deletion (e.g. in the "Patrolling new pages" section, the relatively new statement "The primary task of new page patrollers is to identify new pages that meet the criteria for speedy deletion."). I appreciate your bringing this matter to my attention, because it piqued me to check out the New pages patrol page, which again, has been recently somewhat modified. At any rate, happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 13:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia gets sillier and sillier. To try to find the guidelines or instructions for this, I followed a link in your message above to Special:NewPagesFeed, and there I found a link labelled "Learn more", which took me to Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help. There I found that "Mark as Reviewed" "means that you carefully reviewed that page and did not find any serious problems", which is what led to my comment above. Now you call my attention to Wikipedia:New pages patrol, which gives radically different guidelines to those given in Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help. So we have two features which might reasonably be seen as essentially variations on the same thing, but which have very different standards for us to follow. I could easily spend a long time telling you how and why I think this sort of thing is increasing all the time on Wikipedia, but I shall leave it. One last comment, though: I find that Wikipedia:New pages patrol bears almost no resemblance to what it was when I read and studied it a few years ago. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:10, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Ugh! At any rate, the NPP page remains somewhat open-ended, so if one feels that the content is generally suitable for the encyclopedia (e.g. unlikely to qualify for speedy deletion), then perhaps it's acceptable to mark an article as reviewed despite it being unsourced. Since NPP acts as a first line of defense, perhaps it's appropriate for the guidelines there to be somewhat lax. Verified geographic locations are often retained. That said, it would be nice if the article had some sources to at least verify content within it. It seems that the content on both pages you cite above should eventually be standardized, to say the least, but where's the time? Overall, the relatively new curation page works really nice, though. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Sources: From an initial Google search, not finding anything thus far to verify Dunjeon Station (other than Wikipedia content): [2]. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I never actually thought that the article was suitable. I tagged it for sources and notability, rather than immediately posting a PROD, to allow a chance for people to provide evidence of notability, but I intended to keep an eye on it with a view to considering a PROD if no evidence came after a while. "A while" might have been a few weeks, but this conversation has prompted me to go ahead with a PROD now. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:53, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
It's a relatively new train station, (per the article, it opened on April 26, 2013); I'd bet that there would be at least some coverage in South Korean news sources somewhere out there. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for tidying up bidirectional cell. I hope it was ok that I just quickly put a few bits of info on the page. I figured people who know how to do referencing etc on here could take over :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lionfish0 (talk • contribs) 14:30, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure thing, and thanks to you for improving Wikipedia's coverage of biology-related topics. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Welcome again to Wikipedia, and have a nice day! Northamerica1000(talk) 00:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Dog surfing, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page The Telegraph (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

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DYK Dog surfing

The nom is fine to go as is. But I also offered a couple of Alt hooks. This is a good article. — Maile (talk) 13:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the kindness; I like your ALT1 hook, but it's rather short. I still prefer the original hook at this time because it covers various types of existent dog surfing, all in one line. Thanks for the review, and I'm glad that you like the article! Northamerica1000(talk) 13:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
OK. But maybe you could state this in the nom template, so your nomination doesn't hang in limbo waiting for your input. — Maile (talk) 13:19, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 Done - See Template:Did you know nominations/Dog surfing, and thanks again! Northamerica1000(talk) 13:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Good. I hope this becomes a lead hook. I love watching dog surfing. Can you guess? — Maile (talk) 13:32, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm planning on working to improve it to GA in time. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:32, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

WP:VA/E

Out of curiosity, why do you oppose removing George W. Bush to add Henry Clay? Henry Clay was one of the most influential American politicians of the 19th century, responsible for the American System, the Missouri Compromise and the Compromise of 1850. By contrast, George W. Bush did very little good for the country or for the world. And he only left the White House four years ago, so his legacy is still undefined. Seems to me that it's pretty clear Clay is more important than W pbp 17:13, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Overall, Bush is more vital compared to Clay. It's somewhat subjective, but it's my opinion. Happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 17:18, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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Oak Hills Golf Article

I have tried to improve the Oak Hills Country Club article by adding several sources. Do you think it is now OK to remove the note which you added last week ?? If so, I will remove it with your agreement. Thanks !!! Rogala (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello Rogala: Thanks for improving the article, I've removed the tag from Oak Hills Country Club. Northamerica1000(talk) 00:56, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
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