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Walking Tasmania

Admirable as is your outlining obscure aspects of principles and so on, the article is a complete con, you and others have been caught hook line and sinker. It is self promotion soapbox at its best, potentially why wikipedia is increasingly being filled with this sort of crap. Traversal of australia tasmania section is the best place. Otherwise, as there are so few eds actually living and editing in Tasmania, the laughing and ridicule is at a minimum. It would have been if any of my friends who walk the real parts of the island had known about the articles. If, and I say, if it had been titled self seeking publicity seeking road traversals of tassie in the 21st century - now thats another story. I cannot get over how so many eds get pulled into the cons. cheers User:JarrahTree 00:04, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Interesting how this topic of List of people who have walked across Tasmania is deemed non-notable despite the significant coverage it receives in reliable sources, while List of people who have walked across Australia and List of people who have run across Australia remain uncontested. Are the contributors to those Australia articles also "caught hook line and sinker", as you describe above? North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:09, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

from the size of your edit count you would have encountered a few spamish methods to claim 'notability', - if you want to think of the sources as reliable - dont let me stop you from the position, if people want to claim fame for relatively innoccuous and hohum activity because journos want to make a story out of it, please, enjoy yourself defending it all, as I have said the tasmanian one is specifically about people who have got notoriety due to press coverage, as it stands, from where I stand the article is crap because really its claims are absurd, as there is no qualification of context, it is of attention seekers of the 21st century. It needs to be qualified in title and content to show it is a recent phenomenon that in no way sits with the hundreds if not thousands of people who have historically done more than what the list has in it.

To answer Are the contributors to those Australia articles also "caught hook line and sinker" , people who walk or run across australia in most cases are always out for attention or publicity, and journos are always suckers for those sort of stories, I do not think that either of those lists necessarily any help to anyone to understand people who have historically done such activities without one eye or ear for attention seeking. I think that editors who work with such phenomeonon need to understand WP:UNDUE and the very fine line of balance of understanding the psyche of guinness book of record style of perceiving the world. Whether the average editor who edits those lists understands the probability of WP:UNDUE or other salient issues, I am not sure. Notability is a fickle fish, and I for one would enjoy nothing more than to show articles in the Tasmanian project which are so incredibly undue, as to make the running and walking issues look like very small fish in comparison. But meeting and greeting WP:OWN oriented editors is not my kettle of fish. User:JarrahTree 05:29, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Interesting perspectives, and while we may disagree on some of these matters, I appreciate your input and viewpoints. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:29, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Today's articles for improvement weekly vote

Hello Northamerica1000:

This week's voting for TAFI's upcoming weekly collaborations has begun at Week 28 of 2015. Thanks for participating!

Sent by Northamerica1000 using mass messaging on 20:47, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Goat meat pepper soup

On 6 June 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Goat meat pepper soup, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that goat meat pepper soup has been described as the most popular of the Nigerian pepper soups? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Goat meat pepper soup. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Chips and dip

In your recent revert of my edit, your edit summary was: "The previous edit will likely entice someone to add a 'lead to short' template". This is a peculiar argument. Do you believe it is too short? If yes, please say so. If no, then please leave it to someone who actually objects to revert. On the substance of the edit, I will discuss on the article Talk page. --Macrakis (talk) 21:27, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

@Macrakis: Perhaps you missed the first part within my edit summary. The full rationale was "per WP:MOSINTRO. The previous edit will likely entice someone to add a "lead to short" template". WP:MOSINTRO states "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article" (underline emphasis mine). Your removal of most of the content in the lead contravened this aspect of the MOS. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

No, I didn't miss that.

I removed things which seemed to me not "most important". And sure enough, now that we've discussed the article, I think you agree that the flu and trivia stuff not only were not "most important", but didn't belong in the article at all.

We can disagree on whether double dipping is "most important".

BTW, you also reverted purely stylistic changes (which of course I considered improvements) as part of this blanket revert. --Macrakis (talk) 22:54, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

On the general topic here, it seems to me that there are interesting articles missing on WP. One on Superbowl parties, another on the suburban California culture of the 1950s (the patio, the cook-out, Sunset magazine, the split-level, tiki lounges, etc.). We have articles on some of these individual topics, but nothing to bring them together (or have I not looked in the right place?). --Macrakis (talk) 22:54, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

@Macrakis: N.b. Your recent edits to French onion dip have created two errors in the article's references section (diff). They are Cite error errors, in which the named references are invoked but never defined. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed. --Macrakis (talk) 00:27, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Wondering why you had deleted Nadeem Sarwar (Noha Reciter) 's Wiki page.

Hello,

I am reaching out to ask what was the reason you had deleted Nadeem Sarwar (Noha Reciter) 's wiki page? If that was an accident, can you please restore it somehow. If not, can you guide me how to restore it?

Thanks!

Aabir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aabirrizvi (talk • contribs) 21:44, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

@Aabirrizvi: Nadeem Sarwar was last deleted by a different administrator, on 2 December 2013, and was deleted several times before this by various administrators. Click on the Nadeem Sarwar link in this comment to view the deletion summary. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:54, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Need to restore Charles LaDuca

Hi, Charles LaDuca asked me to address the sourcing problem in his article which got it deleted. Here's the context for this issue...

--- Hello Cfisher54: Consensus at the AfD discussion was unanimous for deletion due to a lack of notability for the subject as per Wikipedia's standards. Notability for biography articles on Wikipedia is typically established by the existence of multiple independent, third-party reliable sources about this subject that provide significant coverage. The specific notability criteria for biography articles is located at WP:BASIC. Up to the time before the article was deleted, the following two sources were present in the article as references, both of which are directory listings that don't qualify as reliable sources: [19], [20]. If you are able to provide proper sources as described above (reliable, and that provide significant coverage), please provide them here. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA1000 11:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

HYPERLINK http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User_talk:Northamerica1000#Need_to_restore_Charles_LaDuca ---

I have found some sources that may be applicable, and I would like to see if this issue can be resolved. I'm new to this side of Wikipedia though, so I'm not sure what the process looks like. I'm contacting you because you were the most recent contact that Charles LaDuca could point me to.

Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WideningGyre (talk • contribs) 18:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello @WideningGyre: Charles LaDuca was deleted on 2 February 2015 as per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles LaDuca and again by another administrator on 16 February 2015 per the criteria for speedy deletion WP:A3, "Article that has no meaningful, substantive content". Feel free to provide independent, reliable sources here that provide significant coverage about the subject, so we can ascertain whether or not the subject meets WP:BASIC to qualify for a Wikipedia article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:43, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Chips and dip

On 9 June 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chips and dip, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that chips and dip (pictured) gained significant popularity in the United States circa 1954, in part due to an advertising campaign that promoted using Lipton dehydrated onion soup mix to prepare dip? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chips and dip. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Chicken in the Rough

I'm not sure this article qualifies for Good Article status, merely because it existed for 30 years, but we have only four paragraphs on it, suggesting major gaps that would not meet the criteria for being comprehensive. I presume this is because there is not enough source material on it to make a more robust article. However, I would be happy to give it the same type of review and providing feedback, if you're interested, without actually giving it a GA stamp. I have nominated a few similar articles and have always been pleased by the results, even when it does not achieve GA, but I still get a second pair of eyes. CorporateM (Talk) 19:55, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

@CorporateM: I have withdrawn the nomination for the time being, in part per a new comment on the article's talk page about the company. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:24, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

I hope this is a right image

[1]? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:43, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@Piotrus: It's not a very accurate representation, as Swedish fruit soup typically has a denser texture. Check out these results from a Google images search for examples, (e.g. [2]]) North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:16, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

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Shaker broom vise

~~Can you make the "gallery mode=packed" function properly in above article Gallery, like you did here.~~ Thanks for your help.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Do believe I solved my problem. Thanks!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: I didn't even get a chance to help out! Thanks for improving the article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:10, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

On second thought, maybe you can help me. On my 15 inch laptops at home the Gallery is wide.

On the library Desktop PC with a 17 monitor the Gallery is narrow.

Is there a way to force LARGE pictures in a Gallery for all PCs?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: When using the mode=packed parameter, the galleries change sizes when browser screen sizes change. For example, open the Shaker broom vise page and then go to a side of your browser and pull it to make the screen size smaller, and you'll notice the variation. A way around this is to not use the mode=packed parameter and use markup such as below.

<gallery class="center" caption="Example" widths="180px" heights="180px">
File:790106-0203 Voyager 58M to 31M reduced.gif|Jupiter seen by Voyager 1 probe with blue filter
</gallery>

Which creates:

Example
Jupiter seen by Voyager 1 probe with blue filter

You can adjust the width and height pixel sizes to change the sizing. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I knew you would come up with a good answer for me. You are very technical and have an excellent understanding on these things. I can take it from here.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Update. Your lesson works well. Thanks again!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)