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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).
- A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.
- Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community. - The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles
.
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
Discrepency
[edit]Why does your user page say that you joined on 3 March 2015, when your logs say that your account was created on 2 May 2004 at 16:34? Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- It doesn't. It says I joined Wikimedia Co-op then. However you are not the only person to make this mistake. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 11:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC).
- Sorry, it doesn't read that way. You might want to adjust it if that's what you're trying to say. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- I removed the Co-op template over an hour before your reply. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 14:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC).
- I removed the Co-op template over an hour before your reply. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 14:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC).
- Sorry, it doesn't read that way. You might want to adjust it if that's what you're trying to say. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Biblical accommodation for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Biblical accommodation is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Biblical accommodation until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Feline Hymnic (talk) 09:34, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #423
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- Events
- Past: Wikidata Parliament of Ghana contest launch (replay)
- Upcoming: Biohackathon 2020 Barcelona 2020 November 9th - 13th The accepted wikidata related proposal: Knowledge graphs and wikidata subsetting
- Upcoming: Online Wikidata editathon in Swedish #20, July 12
- Upcoming: Celtic Knot conference, July 9-10, including several sessions about Wikidata, a Wikidata helpdesk
- Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Why Ariadne uses Getty AAT over Wikidata
- Video: LIVE Wikidata editing #10 - YouTube
- Tool of the week
- Ptable displays the periodic table automatically extracted from information provided by Wikidata; it also provides a check that all the elements are there with some basic properties. Additional pages provide charts of the nuclides under different criteria such as half-life. Each element or nuclide is linked to its Wikidata item for more information or to edit if necessary.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Abstract Wikipedia was approved.
- OpenRefine 3.4 beta 2 was released.
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: Open Data portal, theorised by, DOI formatter, set in environment, academic appointment
- External identifiers: House Divided ID, thefreedictionary medical term ID, People's Representative Council of Indonesia ID, Grove Art Online ID, Supreme Court of Sweden case number, KBpedia ID, Swedish Environmental Protection Agency OBJECTID, Oxford Bibliographies ID, Swiss Timber Bridges ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: taxon synonym string, PM20 subject code, PM20 geo code, number of downloads, Interactive element, course, Zoning symbol, vanDerWaalsConstant, has pattern
- External identifiers: AlloCiné theater ID, Cistercian Biography Online ID, Pitchfork artist ID, Archive Of Our Own tag, Austrian encyclopedia of music online, Swiss Tunnel ID, ANZSRC 2020 FoR ID, CPJF ID, TripAdvisor ID 2, Wien Kulturgut: Kunstwerke im öffentlichen Raum ID, public transport stop, Homebrew formula name, Offizielle Deutsche Charts song ID, British Museum object ID, ToS;DR service numerical identifier, code EHESS d'une commune, IAPH code, ProtonDB video game ID
- Query examples:
- France has a new Prime Minister: see the list of all ministers in French history (very long scroll). If you want to know more, see this notebook
- Open data portals in Wikidata (using the newly created property Open Data portal (P8402))
- Objects that are named after people on Wikidata (Source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- More work on the consistent design system (Phabricator board)
- More work on decoupling the different Wikibase extensions from each other
- Polishing the first step of Federation (using Wikidata's Properties in another Wikibase installation) (incl. preventing users from selecting a federated property with a non-supported data type (phab:T252012) and preventing users from accessing Special:NewProperty when federation is enabled (phab:T255576) and viewing a list of all properties when federation is enabled (phab:T246339))
- Continuing research and interviews around the topic of making it easier to access Wikidata's data for programmers
- Doing first testing of mockups and prototypes of the first version of the Query Builder - coding can start soon
- Convert a few properties from string to external identifier: Linguasphere code (P1396), KOATUU identifier (P1077) and ISIN (P946)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Only warning
[edit]Rich Farmbrough is not permitted to make any mass changes to articles, broadly construed, and regardless of editing method, cosmetic or not, without a demonstrable consensus from the community that he is explicitly permitted to do so.
If I had discovered your mass edits like this one back in May, I would have blocked you immediately. I will not, because blocks are meant to be preventive, but you will be blocked if I see you restoring these changes to any articles. Nyttend backup (talk) 23:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Nyttend backup/Nyttend: This incident went to ANI and resulted in clarification over what kind of consensus is demonstrable consensus. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- There was demonstrable consensus for those edits. Please restore them forthwith. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 02:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC).
More about your saints list
[edit]Hey Rich, as I've told you before, I've been going through your Female saints list, which you got from Catholic.org. You should know that many of the website's entries are cut and paste from difference sources, one of them being Wikipedia. As a result, I'm only using your list as a jumping-off point to help me with research. I'd like to mention that on your list, if I may, and then as I go through the list, remove the links to the site there. Would that be okay with you, sir? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 03:37, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- What they seem to do is copy WP articles without attribution into the "more info" section. I don't see an advantage to removing the links, but I don't really mind if you do. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 03:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC).
- That is what they do, but they also use content from other places (books, even) without attribution. If WP has a long-ish article, they put it in their more info section. As a Catholic myself, I'm embarrassed and ashamed. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- No need to be embarrassed. Even if they are Catholic, which is (at least) open to doubt. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 08:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC).
- No need to be embarrassed. Even if they are Catholic, which is (at least) open to doubt. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 08:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC).
- That is what they do, but they also use content from other places (books, even) without attribution. If WP has a long-ish article, they put it in their more info section. As a Catholic myself, I'm embarrassed and ashamed. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Porpius Aurelianus
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Hello, Rich Farmbrough. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Porpius Aurelianus".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
, {{db-draft}}
, or {{db-g13}}
code.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Lapablo (talk) 11:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #424
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- Events
- Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: New co-facilitator introductions and tools for editathons, 14 July. Agenda
- Upcoming video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #12, 18 July Facebook, YouTube
- Past: Celtic Knot Wikimedia language conference, online, July 9-10. Videos, documentation and slides of sessions are accessible from the program page.
- Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Using OpenRefine with Wikidata for the first time, by Addshore
- Using Wikidata in Mathematica and Wolfram, by Toni Schindler
- Fostering the presence of museums on Wikipedia and Wikidata, by Debora Lopomo
- Extending the Met’s reach with Wikidata, by Jennie Choi
- Wikidata-related videos from the Celtic Knot Conference:
- Wikidata and how you can use it to support minority languages (Mohammed Sadat)
- Wikidata-powered infoboxes (Pau Cabot)
- Hands-on Wikidata and lexicographical data (Nicolas Vigneron and Léa Lacroix)
- FAIR linguistic data thanks to norm data – Wikidata as part of the research project VerbaAlpina (Christina Mutter)
- Sámi placenames on Wikidata (Jon Harald Søby)
- Video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - Wikidata editing #11 Facebook, YouTube
- Video: Introducing the Wikidata powered Dictionary of Welsh Biography timeline (Jason Evans), YouTube
- Video: Diving into Wikidata workshop (Will Kent), YouTube
- Video: Linked data for libraries with Wikibase, Infrastructure track (Jens Ohlig), YouTube
- Tool of the week
- DragNDrop.js makes it possible to show a Wikipedia article and drag items to Wikidata.
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: Dowker-Thistlethwaite name
- External identifiers: AlloCiné theater ID, Maniadb artist ID, Group Properties wiki ID, Oberwolfach mathematician ID, Archive Of Our Own tag, GameBanana video game ID, Spanish Olympic Committee athlete ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: Image link, numeric ID, peak bagging classification, vanDerWaalsConstantA, vanDerWaalsConstantB, road name formatter, road number formatter, Medical Service, Ofsted inspection rating, OpenStreetMap numeric user ID, traffic sign template image, Vietnamese middle name
- External identifiers: Wiki Loves Earth Ukraine identifier, OHM Relation ID, Filmstarts title ID, UK Research and Innovation person ID, SmallGroup ID, Personendatenbank Germania Sacra ID, SAH Archipedia building ID, SAH Archipedia architect ID, Our Campaigns candidate ID, VPE railway line ID, Churches in Limburg, The Draft Review ID, ANZSCO 2013 ID, ANZSOC ID, ASCRG ID, Encyclopédie berbère, 雑誌コード, OpenStreetMap user name, National Registry of Exonerations Case ID, Svenska Akademiens Ordbok ID, QLD Biota ID, Australian Weed ID
- Query examples:
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Continued building out documentation for Federated Properties (phabricator:T255651) and making interface improvements to the first stage of the feature (incl. phabricator:T246886, changes to special pages that interact with both Items/Properties, and phabricator:T255581, changes to Special:ListDataTypes when federation is enabled)
- More work on the consistent design system
- More work on decoupling the different Wikibase extensions from each other to make development easier
- Finalizing research and interviews to better understand what could be improved in the way developers access Wikidata's data (APIs, SPARQL)
- Testing the first prototype of the Simple Query Builder with some editors to get final input before coding starts
- Sorting of language links on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects was broken (presumably by a change in MediaWiki core). A fix is being worked on. (phabricator:T257625)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
I spotted that we'd hit 4 million, but I see you got there first! Any chance of an updated screenshot? I can't work out how to do it. PamD 16:14, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Took the screenshot, just a question of making it go where I want! All the best: Rich Farmbrough 18:06, 17 July 2020 (UTC).
Wikidata weekly summary #425
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- Discussions
- New request for comments: General semi protection for all property pages
- Events
- Upcoming: The First Wikidata Workshop: Second Call for Papers. Papers due: August 10, 2020 | Workshop date: October 29, 2020
- Upcoming: next Wikidata office hour, July 21st at 16:00 UTC (18:00 CEST) in the Wikidata Telegram group. Query Service special with guests from WMF Search Team.
- Upcoming: Wikidata Lab XXIV: Posicionamento digital relativo with Ederporto - July 23 17:00 UTC (14:00 BRT). In this technical training, we'll study the possibilities and functionalities of relative digital positioning in images and do practical activities on this topic using historical photographs of the city of São Paulo. The event will be held in Portuguese. Join us!
- Upcoming video: July 21 - Wikipedia Weekly Network - Entity Schemas and Shape Expressions (ShEx) Facebook YouTube
- Upcoming video: July 25 - Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #13 Facebook YouTube
- Upcoming: Kidok-Workshop, online workshop about church building data. In German, non-native users welcome. Currently looking for a date in the upcoming week and people to help!
- Upcoming video: Beyond Wikipedia - Knowledge that even a computer can understand. July 22, 2020 at 17:00 UTC. In this talk, Zbyszko Papierski will present Wikidata Query Service as one way that developers can interact with Wikidata.
- Press, articles, blog posts, videos
- Consortium of European Taxonomic Facilities botany pilot using Wikidata QIDs
- Video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #11 Facebook, YouTube
- Video: Wikispore Day, including an interview of Denny Vrandečić about Abstract Wikipedia at 34'00
- Video: Merging elements on Wikidata (in Italian) - YouTube
- Video: Wikibase Ecosystem - taking Wikidata further (by Lydia Pintscher), YouTube
- Tool of the week
- User:Frettie/consistency_check_add.js check consistency and add missing relations of a Wikidata object like father/son...
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Breaking change: removing special pageterms behavior on repo wikis, use entityterms instead (relevant for people using pageterms submodule of the query API module on Wikibase repository wikis)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: version control system, interactive elements, course, peak bagging classification, public transport stop, descriptive solubility, applies if regular expression matches, energy consumption per transaction, content partnership category, Van Der Waals Constant a, Van Der Waals Constant b
- External identifiers: Spanish Olympic Committee athlete ID, EHESS ID of a French commune, OpenHistoricalMap relation ID, IAPH code, Knot Atlas identifier, Knotinfo identifier, Swiss Tunnel ID, Wien Kulturgut: Kunstwerke im öffentlichen Raum ID, Österreichisches Musiklexikon Online ID, Swedish Riksdag document ID, Artprice artist ID, AnyDecentMusic album ID, SAH Archipedia architect ID, Personendatenbank Germania Sacra ID, Cistercian Biography Online ID, Digital Library of the Caribbean ID, Homebrew formula name, Our Campaigns candidate ID, UK Research and Innovation person ID, Unique Street Reference Number, Benerail station ID, Churches in Limburg, Vmusic.bg artist ID, US Quaternary Fault ID, ASCRG 2016 ID, ANZSOC 2011 ID, ANZSCO 2013 ID, Political Graveyard politician ID, SAH Archipedia building ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: BTI Status Index, BTI Governance Index, lyricsmule, number of majors offered, nationality (cultural identity), image of view, web interface software
- External identifiers: Native Plants Database ID, Český hudební slovník osob a institucí ID, OpenCritic critic ID, DATAtourisme ID, ASCCEG 2019 ID, AHECC 2017 ID, ANZSIC 2006 ID, Unsplash User ID, South Africa EMIS code, Denkmaldatenbank Thurgau ID, HLTV Player ID, HLTV Team ID, SÚKL code, Nomenclature de tous les noms de rosiers, Science Fiction Awards Database author id, Fototeka person ID, Henrik Ibsen skrifter ID
- Query examples:
- Painters in Wikidata with the surname Ruiz (Source)
- Cities with female mayor (Source)
- MPs in the current UK parliament with identified mythical ancestors (Source)
- Indian subcontinent rail lines (Source)
- List of countries by age of the head of government (Source)
- Cities of the United States between 100,000 and 600,000 inhabitants with the counties and states they are located in (Source)
- Newest database reports: list of 1000, 2000 (without statements) and 10000 (filtered) random items
- Newest properties:
- Development
- More work on the consistent design system
- More work on decoupling the different Wikibase extensions from each other to make development easier:
- load WikibaseClient through the JSON file (phab:T257435),
- decoupling Client from Lib/Repo in the JavaScript code (phab:T256054),
- reduce the uses of Repo classes (phab:T255885, phab:T255882)
- Move all the special pages (phab:T257444), API modules (phab:T257443) and hooks (phab:T257445) from the PHP entry point to the JSON file
- Merge the registration of WikibaseLib into the Repo and Client extensions (phab:T257432) and merge WikibaseView into Repo (phab:T258043)
- Prepare the first development phase for the Simple Query Builder
- Reference game: run a scraper, work on a dashboard that will gives an overview of the potential references that have already been judged in the game
- Fix a bug related to maximum limit of search results (phab:T256885)
- Resolve some configuration issues regarding Entity Sources (phab:T254315)
- Federated Properties:
- Changes to special pages that interact with both items/properties when federation is enabled (phab:T246886)
- Changes to Special:ListDatatypes when federation is enabled (phab:T255581)
- Add new monolingual language codes: mic (Miꞌkmaq), gil (Kiribati)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Date formats
[edit]Hi, a point I've made in several forums: when you add {{Use dmy dates}}
, as you did at Linnaea borealis, since the existing citation style should be respected, then if it consistently uses yyyy-mm-dd for access and archive dates, as this article did, you need to include |cs1-dates=ly
to prevent automatic formatting of these yyyy-mm-dd dates as dmy. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's a useful tip. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 08:31, 21 July 2020 (UTC).
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:El Pus albums
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A tag has been placed on Category:El Pus albums requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Obadiah Parker albums
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A tag has been placed on Category:Obadiah Parker albums requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:15, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Zero-width space
[edit]What is going on here? Please consolidate edits and keep experiments out of the main namespace. Nardog (talk) 15:06, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- It's a wiki. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 19:34, 23 July 2020 (UTC).
- It's a wiki with a preview button and other editors to whom courtesy is owed. The 93 consecutive edits you made to this article, counting charitably, removed 44 characters and added 221 to the wikitext, and I spot nothing that could not have been done with a single edit. Please use the preview button in order to minimize the review burden and the inconvenience caused by severely cluttered page histories imposed upon other editors; continued boundary-pushing may be disruptive. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- I used the preview button extensively. It was a hard problem, made worse by a bug in the Mediawiki software. I was fixing a factual inaccuracy in an article, and I don't appreciate being told off for doing that. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 22:19, 24 July 2020 (UTC).
- I used the preview button extensively. It was a hard problem, made worse by a bug in the Mediawiki software. I was fixing a factual inaccuracy in an article, and I don't appreciate being told off for doing that. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 22:19, 24 July 2020 (UTC).
- It's a wiki with a preview button and other editors to whom courtesy is owed. The 93 consecutive edits you made to this article, counting charitably, removed 44 characters and added 221 to the wikitext, and I spot nothing that could not have been done with a single edit. Please use the preview button in order to minimize the review burden and the inconvenience caused by severely cluttered page histories imposed upon other editors; continued boundary-pushing may be disruptive. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
August 2020 at Women in Red
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