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RRR | New | SaibaK (t) | 4 days, 18 hours | Robert McClenon (t) | 1 days, 3 hours | SaibaK (t) | 4 hours |
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[edit]RRR
[edit]Have you discussed this on a talk page?
Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.
Location of dispute
Users involved
Dispute overview
Movie RRR gathered praise from international filmmakers such as Steven Spielberg, James Cameron etc. which is highly unusual for an Indian movie. Such praise has been widely covered in media and a section was made to list the international filmmakers which praised it with detailed citations. However, some editors are deleting it again and again saying that it can't be included despite it being newsworthy and notable. We have discussed this extensively on the Talk page over the months, but the dispute continues.
How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?
http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Talk:RRR#Inclusion_of_acclaim_by_filmmakers_for_RRR
How do you think we can help resolve the dispute?
Kindly provide comment on a) how whether or not the section contains notable information, b) is well cited or not c) should be entirely deleted or not despite being notable and well cited
Summary of dispute by Jayanthkumar123
[edit]RRR discussion
[edit]- Volunteer Note - The filing editor has not notified the other editor on their user talk page. Notification on the user talk page is a required step in requesting dispute resolution. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Robert McClenon
- Thanks for pointing that out. The user has now been notified on his talk page: User talk:Jayanthkumar123#Dispute resolution notification. Apologies for missing this step earlier.
- On a side note, this has also been earlier notified through the talk page on the topic to the user: Talk:RRR#Inclusion of acclaim by filmmakers for RRR
- We look forward to your kind thoughts towards a resolution. Thanks. SaibaK (talk) 06:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Zeroth statement by possible moderator (RRR)
[edit]So far, only the filing editor has responded. Rather than close the case due to lack of response, I will provide one more opportunity for the other editor to agree to moderated discussion. Please read DRN Rule E and state whether you agree to follow those rules, and whether you understand that the contentious topics procedure is in effect because the subject matter is about India. The purpose of moderated discussion is to improve the article. Please specify what changes you want to make to the article, including what paragraph and what wording, that the other editor does not want, or what you want to leave the same that the other editor wants to change.
If both editors reply within 48 hours, we will begin moderated discussion. Otherwise I will provide advice to the filing editor on what to do next. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Robert McClenon
- Thanks for the note. Yes, I agree with following DRN Rule E and understand that the contentious topics procedure is in effect.
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- As you advised above, am including below the change that I would request for inclusion in the wikipedia article of RRR (note: citations for each are giving in the section after that).
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- Reception by international filmmakers
- Steven Spielberg praised RRR, saying "I couldn't believe my eyes – it was like eye candy...it was extraordinary to look at and experience." Rajamouli said in response "I can almost get up from the chair and do a dance – it means a lot to me." [1] (citation in section below)
- James Cameron said that he liked RRR so much that he watched it twice and praised the screenplay, direction and music direction of the movie. [2] (citation in section below)
- JJ Abrams said that he loves the ‘fever dream madness’ of RRR as he introduced SS Rajamouli at LA’s Chinese Theatre.[3] (citation in section below)
- Edgar Wright said that RRR was "an absolute blast" and said it was "The only film I have ever seen where the intermission card itself got a round of applause." [4] (citation in section below)
- Christopher Miller has praised RRR, describing it as "like Michael Bay and Baz Luhrmann and Stephen Chow teamed up to make a movie. It was 3 hours long but it could have been 4 hours and I would’ve still enjoyed it." [5] (citation in section below)
- Adam McKay publicly expressed support to RRR for the Oscar awards race. [6] (citation in section below)
- James Gunn said that about RRR that he "Totally dug it." [7] (citation in section below)
- Russo Brothers have publicly expressed their appreciation for RRR and its director SS Rajamouli . Joe Russo mentioned “I’ve seen RRR, and it’s amazing." He further mentions "What I think is so amazing about [RRR] is the emotion it evokes, combined with the spectacle."[8][9] (citation in section below)
- Scott Derrickson tweeted "To celebrate my birthday last night, my wife, kids and I watched @RRRMovie — what an awesomely outrageous roller coaster of a movie. Loved it"[10] (citation in section below)
- Joe Dante called RRR a brutal portrait that depicts the horrors of British colonisation and said that "I bet you’ve never seen anything quite like it" [11] (citation in section below)
- Jason Blum expressed his expectations that RRR could win Best Picture Oscar 2023 [12] (citation in section below)
- Daniel Kwan lauded the film, saying "While a lot of the blockbusters we're making in the states tend to have self aware, cheeky characters trapped in self-serious filmmaking, RRR was all heart-on-its-sleeve sincerity wrapped up in the most ridiculous over the top execution. So much to love." [13] (citation in section below)
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- The citation for the above
- [1] Ramachandran, Naman (10 February 2023). "Steven Spielberg, S.S. Rajamouli Talk 'RRR,' 'The Fabelmans': Watch Video (EXCLUSIVE)"Variety. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [2] "James Cameron praises RRR, asks SS Rajamouli if he wants to make Hollywood film" Hindustan Times. 21 January 2023. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [3] "JJ Abrams says he loves the 'fever dream madness' of RRR as he introduces SS Rajamouli at LA's Chinese Theatre. Watch". The Indian Express. 10 January 2023. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [4] "Baby Driver, Scott Pilgrim director Edgar Wright praises SS Rajamouli's RRR: An absolute blast". Hindustan Times. 14 August 2022. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [5] Miller, Christopher (15 June 2022). "Christopher Miller on RRR
- [6] "Don't Look Up director Adam McKay calls India's RRR snub 'a travesty', pledges support for SS Rajamouli film". The Indian Express. 22 September 2022. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [7] "Marvel directors James Gunn and Scott Derrickson praise RRR: 'Loved it'". Hindustan Times. 17 July 2022. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [8] "Joe Russo heaps praise on SS Rajamouli's RRR, calls it a 'well done epic'". Hindustan Times. 23 July 2022. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [9] "Russo brothers and 'RRR' director S.S. Rajamouli on the 'universal language' of action movies". EW.com. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [10] Derrickson, Scott (17 July 2022). "Scott Derrickson on RRR". The Indian Express. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [11] "Gremlins director Joe Dante calls SS Rajamouli's RRR a 'brutal portrait of British colonization': 'You've never seen anything quite like it'". The Indian Express. 19 July 2022. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [12] "Hollywood producer Jason Blum predicts RRR will win Best Picture at Oscars: 'Mark it down, please'". Hindustan Times. 9 January 2023. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
- [13] "'I'm working in the wrong country', says Hollywood director Daniel Kwan after watching RRR". Hindustan Times. 20 October 2022. Retrieved 14 July 2024.
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- Other links:
- The change can be seen with the proper citation in the following link: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=RRR&oldid=1235982253#Reception_by_international_filmmakers
- That contribution has since then been completely deleted by the other editor Jayanthkumar123 and discussion about the same can be seen in the talk page of RRR.
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- Thanks a lot for your time and consideration regarding the moderation.
- With regards,
- SaibaK SaibaK (talk) 20:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)