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I believe this should be treated under WP:NCORP. Although news media is media, it still needs to be shown to be notable. No secondary sources on the page (news announcements about ownership are primary) and I don't see secondary sourcing meeting WP:CORPDEPTH in searches. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nutan (Nepalese actor)

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Deleted in January as Nutan (actor). Still doesn't seem to meet WP:NACTOR. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chelari Airport

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This looks to be a hoax. All sources are based on a facebook post by an "assistant professor of journalism"[1] and are accompanied by the same two images, a very grainy (newspaper?) photo of what looks like anything but an airstrip, and a photo of a plane in the "The Hindu" livery. It is not only not the place that crashed (which was a DC47, a two motor plane, not a four motor airplane), but it is a photoshopped version of this image, completely unrelated to the airport or newspaper. Fram (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This airbase was built in 1962 at Chelari , Calicut (now Malappuram district) and was established by the Birla Group.The airport was used to land small aircraft carrying newspapers of The Hindu to the Malabar region and to bring other cargo to the Malabar region. It ceased operations after a 1969 plane crash[2] [3], and after the construction of the Kozhikode Airport, it was closed down. The Madhyamam Daily newspaper, which has three hundreds of thousands of subscribers in Kerala and outside India, quoted a journalist as reporting on the airport and the accident there [4] ~ ~ Spworld2 (talk) 12:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep clearly not a hoax, lots of hits for the "old Chelari airport," but will need a good copy edit if it is kept. SportingFlyer T·C 17:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Care to list these hits so we can judge them and see if they are a) reliable and b) based on anything but the Hindu Post crash story? Fram (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment It's a primary source, but there's this written answer in parliament from the end of 1965: Will the Minister of Civil Aviation be pleased to state: (a) whether any offer has been received from the Birlas agreeing to place the Chelari Aerodrome near Calicut for providing regular Dakota service; [...] Yes, Sir. This airstrip in its present condition is not suitable for the scheduled operations of I.A.C. However, this offer has been kept in view while surveying for suitable sites for an airport for Calicut. So it certainly existed. Adam Sampson (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, I think. The article linked explains it. It was never an airport; it was a small airstrip. The Facebook post with obviously AI-generated images of what the airstrip "looked like" seems to have caused confusion. This source also confirms the airstrip did exist and is not, in fact, a hoax (apparently contrary to popular belief). There's also this source. It's mentioned here too. So notability of the airstrip appears to have been established, but the article needs to be reworked/renamed based on the sources available and mention the misinformation (as that appears to be the basis for a lot of coverage) around its existence. Someone should take a more in-depth look beyond Google Translate to make sure this is actually the case. C F A 💬 19:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Mexicana de Aviación destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP, WP:NLIST.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, during the 89 year history of this airline, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is largely unsourced, and has been since at least 2011, but the part that is sourced is sourced to old airline-issued timetables, the company website, press releases, enthusiast blogs like airlineroute.net, or to run-of-the-mill articles in trade-press and local news (failing WP:AUD). Sources that clearly pass WP:ORGIND are needed, but none are present.

WP:NLIST is failed because none of these sources are independent, third-party, reliable sources giving significant coverage to the topic of the services this airline offers as a group. If this were a notable topic, I would expect to see a history of the airline covering its destinations - but no such coverage is present nor do I see it in a quick search. FOARP (talk) 11:48, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep WP:NOT doesn't actually apply here, per the recent RfC. It's not a catalogue as it's not promotional, where an airline flies is necessary and encyclopedic to understanding the airline's scope, and it's sourced well enough that we're able to have it on the site. There's an attempt to exclude the number of news sites and blogs which significantly cover airline routes from ever being reliable, which is incorrect. There's also prose in the article about the airline's historical destinations which could be expanded. SportingFlyer T·C 17:55, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
”per the recent RFC” - care to give us a link here? I’m not aware of a new RFC having closed in this field lately. EDIT: and having checked on VPP, the Aviation project page, and the WP:NOT talk page I also don’t see one.

The prose simply repeats what’s already said in the main article. FOARP (talk) 04:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/merge This is not a resource for doing business so NOTCATALOGUE doesn't apply. It is well defined and of limited scope so it is not indiscriminate. Sources do cover the topic, and even if alternative formats for presentation may be better, it does not need to be deleted outright. Reywas92^Talk 23:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The last 15 AFDs related to Airline destination lists all closed as Delete/Redirect/Merge. Since the start of 2023 more than 300 such articles have been deleted. FOARP (talk) 16:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Mexicana de Aviación#Destinations as an alternative to deletion – Whilst I don't have much of an opinion on this matter, in my opinion, the information from this article could be merged, summarised and redirected to Mexicana's destinations page as this would provide much more information and context to Mexicana's history as an airline, rather than splitting the section into an article with not much context given. (Based on WP:PAGEDECIDE). Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:IINFO. I see no need for Wikipedia to record that at one point in its 89-year history this airline flew to Random City X that appears in its timetable from March 1965. I regard this information as airline trivia. Sunnya343 (talk) 15:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Inbox Business Technologies

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Wikipedia is not a platform for corporate advertisements. This is related to Ghias Khan paid-for-spam. IPO of this company didn't happen so WP:LISTED is not applicable. Other than that there are routine press releases or brief coverage in WP:TRADES. Fails WP:NCORP. DeploreJames (talk) 11:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: @DeploreJames, Do you have any evidence to support the claim that the Ghias Ali BLP is paid-for-spam or are these just allegations? Regardless, the focus should be on removing promotional content per WP:ATD rather than seeking deletion. Also, you should notify the page creator @Crosji: on their tp about this AFD. PS. declare your master sock account, please. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it @Saqib Inbox, plays a significant role in Pakistan's IT sector. However, I've noticed that the article has been gradually shortened over the past few weeks. While changes are healthy, it's clear that anonymous users have removed entire sections, and after suggesting AFD, sourced content has been removed to further weaken it. Given the company's recent media presence (here, here, here and here), I recommend updating the article and ensuring its preservation. Insofar, I would suggest to keep it. @DeploreJames is your account only focusing on Pakistan to delete articles? Crosji (talk) 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point to sources which you believe meet GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability? You've pointed to 4 sources but this in Tribune is about the company being warned to pay minimum wage but has no in-depth information about the company, this is in Techjuice which does not appear to meet the criteria for a [[WP:RS|reliable source] as it has no "about" page and may not have any editorial control - in other words it is a type of news blog, this in The News is a mere mention in passing because one of the directors was being written about in a totally different context, and this in the Tribune is a single sentence about a company announcement. "Media presence" is not one of the criteria for establishing notability, rather the content must meet GNG/NCORP criteria. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. While I agree with @Saqib to avoid WP:Popularage, this article is consistent with WP guidelines of WP:NPOV, WP:RS. It also does not fail WP:NCORP as the primary criteria for WP:ORG is “A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is presumed notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Faraz.salim (talk) 11:36, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Faraz.salim (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment Welcome back after an absence of 10 years to !vote at this AfD. Can you perhaps point to any sources that meet GNG/NCORP criteria for establishing notability? HighKing⁺⁺ 15:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:CORPDEPTH / WP:SIRS. 188.31.32.162 (talk) 20:37, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Routine funding announcements, leadership changes, republished press releases, etc. all do not count towards WP:NCORP notability. Don't see much in-depth coverage about the company. C F A 💬 17:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ghias Khan

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CEO doing his job, nothing significant done by him in his corporate career. References are basically primary references (i.e. interview) or mentions in reliable references. Pakistan & Gulf Economist article is the best reference about him but an archived version reveals that it is an interview as well ([5]). Bloomberg.com database entries are not useful for notability purposes. Clearly no way near meeting WP:GNG. DeploreJames (talk) 10:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Engro Corporation: as the subject is known for being the CEO of Engro, one of Pakistan's largest corporations. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it, there are numerous articles on corporate leaders from all over who have held key positions and become part of public discourse, like Ghias Khan from Pakistan. He has interacted with public figures, made significant contributions to the industry, and recently moved on after many years. To test notability you just needed to read/watch news the lkast few years. It's legitimate to have such an article, and the fact that it has garnered at least 50K views indicates a certain level of public interest, therefore it should not be deleted but updated. Crosji (talk) 06:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crosji, As the creator of this BLP, I’d love to see it rescued. However, I, lack the time or perhaps the interest, to dig into sources and defend this BLP, so I voted for a redirect. But anyway please remember to avoid WP:ATA (in this case WP:POPULARPAGE) when casting votes in AfD. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect per Saqib. WP:ROTM businessman, lacks direct and in-depth non-routine coverage. Interviews are not helpful to pass WP:GNG. 188.31.32.162 (talk) 20:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Delhi Premier League T20

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Another example of a local Indian cricket tournament that doesn't need separate season articles. The fact that the teams are mostly non notable players (with 1-2 exceptions per team) makes it no surprise to me that this season article doesn't pass WP:GNG independently of general coverage about tournament creation which is relevant mainly to the parent article Delhi Premier League T20. We need to stop creating season articles for every local one city or state T20 tournaments with non notable players. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Per nom. AA (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Please check the Tamil Nadu Premier League pages, including those dedicated to individual annual editions like the 2022 Tamil Nadu Premier League, 2023 Tamil Nadu Premier League, and 2024 Tamil Nadu Premier League. Separate pages exist for each team as well. Similarly, the Delhi Premier League T20, which is also organized under the directions of Board of Control for Cricket in India BCCI, has gained significant coverage after the successful completion of its seasons. Given this, it would be beneficial for Wikipedia readers to have dedicated pages for each annual edition of the Delhi Premier League T20, as well as individual pages for each team, similar to those for Tamil Nadu Premier League teams like Salem Spartans, Chepauk Super Gillies, and Lyca Kovai Kings. Davidrun99 (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note Several Twenty20 pages have existed includimg thier annual leagues for many years, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate to nominate them for deletion.
List of regional T20 cricket leagues in India
Andhra Premier League
Bengal Pro T20 League
Chhattisgarh Cricket Premier League
Delhi Premier League T20
Kerala Cricket League
Madhya Pradesh League
Maharaja Trophy KSCA T20
Maharashtra Premier League
Odisha Cricket League
Pondicherry Premier League
Rajasthan Premier League
Saurashtra Premier League
Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup
UP T20 League

Davidrun99 (talk) 12:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OSE is not a valid reason to keep. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Unnoteworthy local city league. The league is not notable (even majority of the players) or noteworthy enough nationally or internationally to warrant a page on. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 13:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I would highlight that the population of Delhi, over 28 million people, is more than many countries so to refer to this as a 'Local League' per some contributors above is slightly disingenuous. As the biggest sport in a sizable catchment area with considerable media interest it is clear that this competition, as well as the other state level T20 leagues in India, fulfils Wikipedia's Notability criteria. Bobby2302 (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.13.50.178 (talk) — 185.13.50.178 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Note to Admin: IP 185.13.50.178 signed itself as BobbyB. Maybe same users? BobbyB has only one edit to its account and that was in 2006.[reply]

This IP edit claiming to be another user also looks like an attempt to imitate me (using 2302 and the exact colours of my signature). As well as making no actual claim on why separate season articles should exist (as they seem to be talking about the main tournament articles). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. I was trying to work out how do do a signiture. My comment still stands that the artical should be kept per policy. 185.13.50.219 (talk) 09:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which policy should it be kept under? Because there is no evidence this passes WP:GNG, which is the main way of determining keeping or deleting of articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per nom. Another of these local leagues that seem to have been mass-created of late, lacking any notability or substance. Fails WP:GNG and WP:EVENT. Also, suspect IP commenting seems quackers. AA (talk) 18:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sayeye Penhan

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Fails WP:NFILM in short. No critical reception whatsoever. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"This article is about an Iranian film that was recorded in Iran according to the sources available in the article. If the article is lacking in content, it is likely that the user who created it did not have sufficient information and was unable to provide further edits. As you may have noticed, a 'stub' template has been added at the end of the article, indicating that editors are encouraged to help expand the article by adding more information. According to this procedure, the article needs more time to be completed. However, you have placed a deletion template on this article, which goes against the rules of English Wikipedia." 5.233.174.226 (talk) 16:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you have no decent sourcing to start with, adding a stub template doesn't really help. Oaktree b (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No mentions in RS other than what's given; not seeing notability for this short film. I don't find any sourcing either. Oaktree b (talk) 16:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A statement is made that is not logical. You say there are no sources, so what are the sources listed in the references section for? This has been officially announced as a certain type of film and has been screened as a cinematic movie in Iran and registered on IMDb. You shouldn't compare this article, which pertains to Iran, with an article related to the United States, because it was created by an editor who has limited knowledge about Iranian cinema, and this will be corrected over time with the help of other editors. Unfortunately, you made a hasty decision to delete this article, which is not logical and violates Wikipedia's rules. This article is still new and was created just a month ago, and a stub template has been added to allow editors to contribute, with credible sources also cited. 5.233.174.226 (talk) 17:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article, with its completed information, should remain on English Wikipedia and not be deleted, so that it can be improved and matured by editors.

Thank you. 5.233.230.102 (talk) 18:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need to know that a topic is notable enough to merit an article first, instead of creating an article and waiting to see if editors find enough sources. However, the other option is always to set up a draft, which can be improved and moved back into the main article space once it's ready. hinnk (talk) 07:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
to stay: This article is about an Iranian film and is still in the early stages. It should be allowed to be edited. If the article has any issues, please help by editing and improving it rather than deleting the article altogether. With suggested edits from editors, this article can be strengthened, but deleting it would not be productive. This article should remain; otherwise, we would be violating Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryBuff98 (talk • contribs)

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Institute of Science and Technology, Bangladesh

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Non-notable educational institution. No independent, reliable sources could be found in English or Bengali that contain significant coverage of it, so there should not be a stand alone article on the topic. I had previously redirected it to List of institutes in Bangladesh, but was reverted by the author, an alumnus. Worldbruce (talk) 03:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to "List of institutes in Bangladesh" Fails WP:GNG and there is clearly a WP:COI issue around the article. Is Bangladesh Institute of Science and Technology a separate institute, as it looks very much alike. The Banner talk 09:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pet Sitters International

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No evidence PSI meets N:ORG. A membership organization & trade association whose coverage is mostly non independent and definitely not in depth. Star Mississippi 02:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Costello, Jane (1999-09-02). "With Two Pet-Sitting Groups, Naturally Things Turn Catty". The Wall Street Journal. p. B1. ProQuest 398712141.
  The article notes: "After a series of catfights, Ms. Moran left NAPPS in 1993 and set up a rival organization, Pet Sitters International. The sponsor of Take Your Dog to Work Day, PSI now has 2,900 members, who pay $80 in annual dues. Through a correspondence school, PSI members can also apply to become an "Accredited Pet Sitting Technician" for $299. With further training, and another $179, there's the title "Advanced Pet Sitting Technician." For another $50, there's "Master Pet Sitting Professional." At PSI's conference in New Orleans next week, topics will include the "untapped market" for midday dog-walking and ways to avoid professional burnout. While PSI has accumulated the lion's share of pet sitters, NAPPS has recruited 1,200 members ..."
2. Sturiale, Jeanne (2004-03-19). "King Woman Is a Leader in the Field of Pet-Sitting - Members Accredited to Visit Pets in Homes". Winston-Salem Journal. Archived from the original on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12.
  The article notes: "About 10 years ago, Patti Moran founded Pet Sitters International Inc. to encourage professionalism in the emerging field of in-home pet care. Since then, Pet Sitters International, a for-profit association in King, has grown to more than 6,000 members in nine countries, with members ranging from one-person shops to companies with 125 pet sitters on staff. ... After Moran sold her pet-sitting business in 1993, friends encouraged her to start an association. A year later, she formed Pet Sitters International. ... Moran wouldn't reveal profits, but, with annual member dues of $99, Pet Sitters International's sales exceed $500,000 a year."
3. Daniel, Fran (2014-04-06). "A furry friend's safe haven. Globe pet-sitting association began in Triad" (pages 1 and 2). Winston-Salem Journal. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12 – via Newspapers.com.
  The article notes: "Patti Moran's love for dogs. cats and other pets morphed from a petting-sitting business into an international pet-sitting association based in King. Founded in 1994, Pet Sitters International is an educational organization for professional pet sitters. The association has 7,000 members, of which 331 are based in 30 countries outside the United States, including Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, Japan and Brazil. For the past 20 years, the association has focused on helping people start their own professional pet-sitting services by offering access to pet-sitter specific business and educational resources, as well as educating pet owners about the importance of choosing "quality pet-care providers.""
4. Caldwell, Neill (2019-11-06). "King-based worldwide organization celebrates 25 years". The Stokes News. Archived from the original on 2024-08-12. Retrieved 2024-08-12.
  The article notes: "Pet Sitters International celebrated that 25th anniversary this past weekend during its annual World Educational Conference. Patti Moran is the founder and is considered a pioneer — not just for Pet Sitters International but for an entire industry that didn’t really exist until she envisioned it. The organization was started in Winston-Salem, but the Morans moved to King 22 years ago. ... In 1994, Moran founded Pet Sitters International (PSI). ... PSI began publishing the first magazine for professional pet sitters, now called Pet Sitter’s World. Moran and PSI also established Professional Pet Sitters Week, now a recognized, annual observance around the globe. The organization also promotes pet adoption, has an awards program, an online store and offers its members certifications and bonding. It is the world’s largest educational association for professional pet sitters and dog walkers."
5. Duea, Angela Williams (2008). How To Open & Operate a Financially Successful Pet Sitting Business. Ocala, Florida: Atlantic Publishing. pp. 34, 223–224. ISBN 978-1-60138-229-0. Retrieved 2024-08-12 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes on page 34: "Pet Sitters International (PSI) offers pet sitters an accreditation program to sharpen their professional skills. An in-depth educational program teaches pet sitters about pet care, health and nutrition, business management, office procedures, and additional services. The top pet sitting professionals in the industry have worked together to develop this coursework. While you can gain this knowledge in other places, such as by reading this book, PSI offers accreditation for students completing this coursework. Your clients will know that by hiring an accredited sitter, they are assured of hiring a professional with in-depth knowledge and skills in caring for pets and a good knowledge of modern pet-care practices. To become accredited, the pet sitter has to learn and exhibit a working knowledge of taking care of many types of animals and running an efficient business."
  The book notes on pages 223–224: "Pet Sitters International is dedicated to educating professional pet sitters and promoting, supporting, and recognizing excellence in pet sitting. This professional association offers pet sitters an accreditation program to sharpen their professional skills. An in-depth educational program teaches business management, office procedures, and additional services. The top pet-sitting professionals in the industry have worked together to develop this coursework."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Pet Sitters International to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As always, thanks for the sources @Cunard, 5 was new to me but I'm not sure 1-4 are suitably independent as the blurbs are lifted from versions of their site which makes me think they're re-prints of press releases and other communications from Moran. Maybe the depth will end up being there given their history but I"ve not yet found it. Will keep looking too. Star Mississippi 12:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's unclear to me how these sources are lifted from versions of their website or are reprints of press releases. Reliable sources have covered the company's history, products, and initiatives like Take Your Dog to Work Day. This is the coverage I'd expect notable companies to receive. Some of this information is also covered on the company's website but I don't see any close paraphrasing or indication that the sources solely relied on what the company said. I think there's enough independent coverage from national publications like The Wall Street Journal and Atlantic Publishing to meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. Cunard (talk) 08:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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keep based on the first two sources surfaced by @Cunard above. The Winston Salem Journal article is independent and significant coverage, and the WSJ article is not particularly long but is in-depth and independent. Both meet SIGCOV. I can't access #3 but it looks like it could go either way. 4 and 5 seem quite PR/publicity driven (not saying #5 is not independent, but the information seems regurgitated). Oblivy (talk) 02:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Cunard has provided links to sources above but that these fail the criteria as follows:

The WSJ article contains approx 7 sentences containing information about the company which mostly simple recites the fees, courses and accreditation, all repeated from the website. Fails CORPDEPTH and ORGIND. The rest of the article is about the founder falling out with a rival organisation and an upcoming conference.
This first article in the W-S Journal is a puff profile, based entirely on an interview with the founder, Moran. There is no "Independent Content" as required by ORGIND. Similarly the second W-S Journal article is also based entirely on an interview with the founder and has no "Independent Content" as per ORGIND.
This from Stoke News is based on an announcement of 25 years in business and an interview with the founder. It repeats the same information as in the other articles, about how she was let go from a previous job and set up the company and wrote a book. It regurgitates the same messaging as in the other article and has no "Independent Content", fails ORGIND.
The book "How To Open & Operate a Financially Successful Pet Sitting Business" copies the bullet points listed on pages 34, 35 and 36 from the company as acknowledged by the copyright notice. It is also included in the appendix which lists lots of organisations but the open sentence describing the company is copied in parts from the website and the rest simply regurgitates the same descriptions we've seen in the other articles. There is no "Independent Content" or any content which cannot be found on archived copies of the website, fails ORGIND

I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The Wall Street Journal article provides ~~2012~~ 212 words about the subject and is not based on interviews with the subject. It meets Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Independent sources and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Significant coverage.
The articles in the Winston-Salem Journal and The Stokes News are detailed profiles of the company and contain sufficient non-interview coverage in the text I quoted to meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Independent sources and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Significant coverage. The sources all discuss the company's origin story because it's an important part of the company's history. That the sources are consistent in their descriptions of the company's origin story does not make the sources non-independent. The sources are enough for the company to meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. Cunard (talk) 00:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this, @Cunard. I agree, the Wall Street Journal can only be seen as an independent article with substantial information about the company. IMHO as a WSJ journalist there should be a high hurdle to claim it's not independent, but you bring the facts to back up that opinion.
With regard to the Winston-Salem Journal piece the journalist appears to have been a bit more intimate with the article subject but "at worst" this is earned media and not something where the article is speaking on behalf of the subject.
I didn't think the Stokes News article was very independent, as it's mostly based on an interview, but I agree there's independent journalistic content in there as well so perhaps it gets some weight. Oblivy (talk) 01:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These are good points. Thank you, Oblivy (talk · contribs). I've fixed a typo I made about The Wall Street Journal source. Cunard (talk) 01:21, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll admit 212 words << 2012 words, but my other points stand especially regarding the reputation of WSJ (the famous one) for independence. In future perhaps could you find sources that don't have the same (WSJ) acronym?? Oblivy (talk) 03:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will keep that in mind for next time! Two WJSs is too confusing! Cunard (talk) 06:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Response I cannot see 212 words in the WSJ journal that are about the organization tbh. Also, it isn't only quotation or interviews or other types of directly quoted wording which falls foul of ORGIND, but also information which clearly originates from the organization or their officers. It is a fact that the WSJ spoke with or interviewed the founder for the article as they include a direct quote about her quitting NAPPS saying "It was hard to get anything done". That the article might paraphrase or otherwise not directly quote exactly what was said does not make the *content* independent - clearly there is no dispute that the publisher (WSJ) and PSI are corporately independent. The information about the accreditation and the number of members is on the website - or more likely with information provided during the interview. Also remember, that once you discard the information that fails ORGIND, the remaining content must be SIGCOV significant and CORPDEPTH in-depth - none of the content is either significant or in-depth about the organization. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per sources identified by @Cunard, in particular #1 and #2. The idea that WSJ coverage wouldn't somehow be independent is off-base. I was honestly surprised to see this result, but WP:NCORP is indeed met by this organization. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jharkhand Andolankari Sangharsh Morcha

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The sources are not reliable and do not provide in-depth coverage of the subject. It fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:ORG. GrabUp - Talk 17:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 18:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JOJ WAU

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Probably not notable. I could only find this: [6], [7], [8]. This probably does not constitute significant coverage. Janhrach (talk) 17:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Nu Breed Music Group

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Fails WP:CORP with no WP:RS. I can't find anything that even mentions this specific company and not the rap group (NuBreed). The official website doesn't even work. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 16:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of star systems within 700-750 light-years

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At the ongoing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of star systems within 500-550 light-years, some argued that up to 650 ly would be a good arbitrary limit, others thought 100 ly would be better and argued for deletion. Instead of waiting for the outcome of that discussion, we now have a new list which goes even beyond this. So, the nomination and delete !vote arguments of that other discussion apply here as well, but even more so. Fram (talk) 16:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Also nominated for the same reason are:

My argument is that 1000-6000 or 6000-10,000 ly should be temporary maximum limit for now as the article before lack any Wolf-Rayet star or magnetar or pulsar and many many more interesting Star. Then why need to remove these things as it is rare and less and it is much much easy to have a list of stars to search and use than searching separate articles and if you think this is hard then think of people who had made Catalog of each star, I am not giving anyone pressure to do add or edit this, As edit and adding is a voluntary work not a toxic editing work. I also think that as time passes more new information will be added and as such no need of deliting things, But otherwise expanding this to at least 6000 ly. "Do not have fear of Hard work because of it is hard,but be happy as the work is hard and get the Plesure/essence of the work". So, My humble request is to have want to add not want to delete and do not delete the article. Abdullah1099 26 August 2024, 05:00 UTC

[...]the article before lack any Wolf-Rayet star or magnetar or pulsar and many many more interesting Star. A list of the nearest Wolf-Rayet stars or pulsars could be useful. Listing all stars by distance out to hundreds of light-years isn't. SevenSpheres (talk) 19:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. There is no connection between these stars other than their distance from the Sun. Do we really need to know what stars lie between these distance ranges? It's a rather pointless list that is unlikely to see much use and will never be complete. Praemonitus (talk) 16:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, We need this kind of list and this is our work to do. My last request is to not become inhuman. Note:I already told that i am not adding red drawfs after 100 ly until and unless it is a special one. So, almost 60% of stars has gone then why the problem is coming at the first place. I had already taken the command to add and edited everything, So, No need to be in stress. If expanding above 500 or 1000 ly is pointless then making this type of list is also pointless at the first place even before 20-10 ly is also pointless. Abdullah1099 26 August 2024, 05:00 (UTC)

Strong Delete What is the point of reproducing the Gaia catalog here? Wikipedia doesn't need these lists, since they're just a copying from Gaia+Vizier, which are going to be more frequently updated with new information, and are better vetted by experts. - Parejkoj (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, these lists of star systems only make sense when restricted to a few light-years, such as <100 ly. 21 Andromedae (talk) 18:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the other AfD. SevenSpheres (talk) 19:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Judoon

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The Judoon seem to lack significant coverage discussing the species as a whole. I found very little searching in Books and Scholar, with Books only turning up spin-off material from the series and Scholar only pulling trivial mentions or mentions of the episode "Fugitive of the Judoon," which only discuss the episode and not the species. News sources have a few hits, but they're mostly ROUTINE coverage (A character is returning, here's a few guides so you know who they are) and even then there's very few of them and the bulk of them are just plot summary with no significant reception of analysis of their role. I don't believe there's enough here for the Judoon to act as a standalone article. A viable AtD is a redirect to List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens, where most of the relevant information regarding the Judoon is already present. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 15:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for a well-written nomination encompassing both BEFORE and ATDs. Jclemens (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nikita Kukanov

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This is a basic stats stub and the Ukrainian Wikipedia article only has links to database sources. My own searches yielded UA Football, Pravda and Kramatorsk Post, none of which are even close to demonstrating WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kaho Osawa

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Fails WP:BLP and NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 15:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign congressional endorsements

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This article is a copy of a few sections from List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements, except that it already deviates from that article in content and has several referencing errors. There's no reason to have two copies of this information. Note that there's no discussion of a split of the primary article, therefore no concensus for such an action. mikeblas (talk) 15:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete Unclear why User:RayneVanDunem (notifying here since I don't see a talk message) copied the content to a new page but did not complete a split. If you want to do a bold WP:SPLIT without discussion, whatever, but you have to actually complete the job so there's not inconsistencies and duplication. Reywas92^Talk 15:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oop! I was adding a notification and then got distracted and I guess I didn't save it. Published now! -- mikeblas (talk) 16:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete does not apply here? A split may be useful as List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements is fairly long. C F A 💬 18:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

King and Maxwell (book series)

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Series fails WP:GNG, no reason for this to be a separate article from the individual books. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 14:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Per the consensus at NBOOKs earlier this year fiction book series inherent the notability from the books if the books themselves are notable and in fact it is often a preferred default to cover the books at a series level vs individual book level. In either case, valid navigational list. It's generally better to cover novels as a series first and then split when that gets long, not the reverse. PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For context, see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (books) after a similar AfD: there was generally unanimous consensus for inherited series notability for fiction works (but no consensus on non-fiction, to which this does not apply). PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the above. I don't really like the current format, but that's editable. Jclemens (talk) 17:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sourav Mukherjee

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No independent, reliable secondary sources found. Fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Sources includes primary, blogs such as Medium and unreliable sources. GrabUp - Talk 14:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your feedback on the Wikipedia page submission. I understand the importance of adhering to Wikipedia's guidelines for notability and sourcing. However, the person is very popular in Indian animation studies scene, as you will see his books has been published by the Central Government of India, and he had also received several grants for research in this field. Further more independent and reliable secondary sources will be added to support the content and ensure that it meets Wikipedia's standards. Once again, your input is greatly appreciated, and I look forward to improving the page with more robust references.

Best regards. Kolkata.cult (talk) 15:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kolkata.cult: Please share reliable independent sources here, as I am unable to find any, which is the reason behind the nomination. Books published by the Central Government do not inherently make a person notable, nor are these awards notable enough to make the subject notable. I also noticed that you removed the AfD template from the article, which was reverted. Please refrain from removing the template in the future. GrabUp - Talk 15:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that books published by the Central Government may not inherently establish a person's notability. However, it's important to note that the book was inaugurated by M. Venkaiah Naidu, the former Vice President of India, which adds a layer of significance to the author's achievements. Additionally, several sources have been added to demonstrate the person's credibility as an educator and artist. If there are specific types of reliable, independent sources that you are looking for, please let me know, and I would be happy to assist in gathering them. I understand the importance of adhering to Wikipedia's guidelines, and I apologize for the oversight regarding the AfD template. I will ensure it is not removed again. Regards. Kolkata.cult (talk) 19:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bradley J. Bondi

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None of the references in this article about a lawyer show significant secondary coverage in reliable sources. I have carried out WP:BEFORE and not found references to add; I have removed two existing references which did not mention him. Article has been tagged as orphan for six years, notability and advert for two years, and was recently tagged with possible CoI. It was also recently cut down by another editor from a longer version with no sources, but the quality of those sources is not better than the existing ones. I don't think he meets WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg (talk) 14:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cal Horton

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Research fellow at Oxford Brookes, not reaching WP:NACADEMIC; Scopus publication output is consistent with their career stage. Has appeared in the media (including podcasts) as an expert with others, but this dosn't seem sufficient for independent notability (notability isn't inherited). Klbrain (talk) 14:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - yes they do pass WP:NACADEMIC with many highly cited papers and advancing research in a dramatically under-researched field, which is why they also have been cited by several newspapers (actually just to double check, found another two now that I've added to the article, so this also strengthens the WP:GNG case), despite their age in the field. They especially got a lot of recent attention as a result of their critique paper on the Cass Review. They are an expert themself on transgender studies, which is why they have been invited to talk as an expert on various podcasts, and as the article said, including them solo in this deep-dive on Social Transition, Puberty Blockers and the Cass Review, so I don't know what the stab about inherited notability is there. Im trying not to get upset anymore, but the amount of time I've had to come and defend women and non-binary people at AfD is really apparent of how alive the gender bias on Wikipedia still is. Raladic (talk) 14:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum, should the consensus below end up with deletion, since the article was AfD'd as part of NPP of a new article, I request per WP:ATD-I, that the article be moved into draft space (main draft, or alternatively back to my user space where I drafted it) instead, since so far it seems from the 3 delete votes below that it may be more a case of WP:TOSOON with potential rather than outright non-notability. Raladic (talk) 20:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per the above - their many cited papers (that are cited by several newspapers and on Wikipedia itself) shows that they pass GNG and NACADEMIC. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 17:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It looks far WP:TOOSOON for WP:NPROF for this fresh PhD with a handful of citations in what I believe to be a mid to high citation field. GNG is plausible, but I didn't find substantial coverage of the subject in the news -- the ABC piece cited does not mention them, and publishing an opinion piece in SciAm does not contribute so much to notability. Will follow in case better evidence of notability arises. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 17:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Early-career researcher with a citation record to match their position; not enough citations for WP:PROF#C1 and no other claim to notability evident. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - agreed with the nominator. Scopus and Google scholar do not indicate high citations. Note I have removed the VIAF and LCCN ids from the wikidata record as these appear to be a different Calvin Horton who worked on pay plans in 1967/1972 [9]. ResonantDis_tortion 19:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moscow Water Dog

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~~I believe that this 18-year-old article is, in fact, a very long lived hoax.~~ The article itself features no sources that even mention the "Moscow Water Dog". The article for, and every source regarding, the Russian Black Terrier (which this article claims is in part derived from the Moscow Water Dog) do not mention the Water Dog at all. I conducted a review of online sources; the only sources I can find that mention this supposed breed are purely AI-generated slop that has combed from Wikipedia, and a work of fiction that uses this article as inspiration.. There is as far as I can tell absolutely no evidence whatsoever of the MWD or any attempt at breeding it, so I believe the article is an intentional hoax added to Wikipedia when quality control was much lower (2006!) which has somehow survived until now. CoconutOctopus talk 17:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment this subject appears in other languages on Wikipedia, such as the country of origin. Can you check the Russian Wikipedia for potential sources? I am not opposed to deletion or keeping but I am opposed to speedy deletion. The creator for the article also was a prolific editor in animal-related articles, which makes me think it is unlikely to be a hoax. -1ctinus📝🗨 18:07, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, an intentional hoax for this editor is most unlikely. Ceoil (talk) 18:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be honest, I completely forgot to check other languages. The Russian article does feature a few sources that seem to confirm the water dog's existance so that takes hoax off the table!

Regardless, I'm not convinced there's enough evidence to support the article remaining, as as far as I can tell the dog was never a registered breed and there's very little coverage of it, and even less in English. The sources that do mention it purely mention it in passing when discussing either Red Star Kennels or the Black Terrier.

Russian wikipedia source one

source two CoconutOctopus talk 18:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
CoconutOctopus, in honor of Yoman, would you mind striking the hoax text from the intro? Thank you, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks CoconutOctopus for striking. Ceoil (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from me, as well. Yomangani wrote FAs Laika and Beagle (among many others), so he seems to have loved the critters, and wasn't the sort to create a hoax; he knew dogs. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning Keep: search books.google.com, scroll past the first page of results (those are mostly all Wikipedia mirrors), and there are scores of legit books discussing this breed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Keep these sources seem to be enough to support existence and some notability: [10] [11]

I can look further if you want to see if more sources exist. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do Traumnovelle. Ceoil (talk) 01:39, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[12] mentioned here, might just be trivial.

[13] mentioned here, not a notable mention but a good source to show this isn't a hoax and the Kutepov source it mentions might be good coverage of the breed.

[14]

I presume there will be greater coverage in Russian sources too. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:57, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Graham Beards (talk · contribs), I see on this page that you speak Russian; might you have time to see if there are usable sources in the Russian article, for a save for our old friend and FA writer, Yomangani? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AKC Gazette has enough in the viewable snippett to indicate AKC took it seriously. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:31, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Sandy, the sources on the Russian Wikipedia page are largely mediocre. This one from The National Kennel Club on the Black Russian Terrier seems authoritative: [15] Google provides a reasonable translation of the page. The breed (московский водолаз) is mentioned in the first paragraph. Graham Beards (talk) 06:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Takumi Nomura

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Fails WP:BLP and NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 14:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yuichi Shimogami

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Fails WP:BLP and NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 14:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Harry Eaton (actor)

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Non-notable actor; fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, WP:NACTOR. Roles have been minor parts. Sources are either primary (the actor's Instagram page) or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of an upcoming supporting role in a single episode of an Outlander spinoff. BEFORE search turns up no WP:SIGCOV to support GNG. Contested PROD so bringing to AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Double Crossing

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At present, many of the Nancy Drew and/or Hardy Boys books have their own articles, though these articles consist only of primary references and plot summaries. I have not been able to find book reviews or any individual coverage of most of these books. This book (and those batched below) are part of the Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys Super Mystery series. I recommend redirecting all there. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages:

A Crime for Christmas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shock Waves (Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Dangerous Games (Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Last Resort (Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Comment I feel this may be a WP:TRAINWRECK. A few of these books are definitely notable. This is too many to evaluate at once. Unless we want to go with the series-first approach we discussed at NBOOK earlier this year, which, fair, so I'm not going to vote keep yet (funnily enough someone else just voted the exact opposite kind of thing for deletion). PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Warm Dust

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The sources listed here provide little more than WP:ROUTINE coverage of the band. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was ‎ keep: nominator has changed opinion to keep with no dissenting opinions, effectively withdrawn. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William Wyckoff

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Short BLP created by an experienced editor. Tagged for notability as part of a NPP in JULY 2024, no improvements made. Nothing in the page or that I can find which proves notability. Certainly not WP:NPROF, reviews of books are in science journals so do not support WP:AUTHOR. Delete unless someone can edit to demonstrate notability. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:39, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. I do not know of any policy or guideline that says science journals are not periodicals for WP:NAUTHOR purposes. I see four substantial reviews of authored work, plus one of edited work, which I think is (weakly) enough. The lifetime achievement award helps support. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 13:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep (as nomination I am changing my opinion). The lifetime achievement award is exactly what should have been in the original article to demonstrate that his peers recognise him as notable. It was not in the article when notability was questioned, only added after the AfD, and did not show up on my Google search. Ldm1954 (talk) 15:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anton Kustinskiy

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Despite his 12 minutes of football for Dinamo Brest, I can find no significant coverage of him at all in Russian nor Belarusian Cyrillic. Belarusian Wikipedia has no decent sources either. No sign of WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:32, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, a hopeless case. Geschichte (talk) 20:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mikail Akhmedov

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His only claim to notability is playing less than one minute in a cup game. Aside from that, I found Chechnya Today, which mentions him running a training session for kids at a local school, which, on its own, is not enough to pass WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG, which require significant coverage in multiple independent sources. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. A7. In this day and age, this can not even be counted as a "claim" to notability. Geschichte (talk) 20:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitri Sesyavin

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Sesyavin only ever played 13 mins in a cup match for Rotor's senior team, which is not a particularly strong claim to notability. I found Rambler, which mentions him once in the match report and once in the squad list, and Sport 34, which only mentions him three times in the match report itself. This is far from enough to pass WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to 2020–21 FC Rotor Volgograd season, no notability. Geschichte (talk) 12:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stella Maris College, Port Harcourt

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A school that fails to meet the general notability guideline. The first source was from a site that claim to be a Nigerian newspaper which they are not so therefore not reliable. Aside that source there is nothing again found about this school. Gabriel (……?) 12:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yaroslav Shcherbin

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Was presumed notable for 28 mins in a cup match. Shcherbin has played in the lower levels since and there is no sign of passing WP:SPORTBASIC. I found Infokam, which mentions him scoring a hat-trick in the Volgograd Region Championship, which I can only imagine is a very low level in the Russian football league structure. This is far from enough to pass our guidelines. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to 2020–21 FC Rotor Volgograd season, no notability. Geschichte (talk) 12:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of El Salvador, London

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No secondary sources, no content other than a directory listing. Fails WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 11:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jaimon Lidsey

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. All sources provided are primary except the Eurosport article. When I read that article it contains no mention of Lidsey. A search for sources only comes up with speedway related sources which are primary. LibStar (talk) 01:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep A world under 21 champion and rides in the highest speedway league possible. Two secondary sources have been added. Racingmanager (talk) 13:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The 2nd source added is a 1 line mention not WP:SIGCOV. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dog Puller

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This seems overly advertisal and also doesn't seem especially notable. Lastly, I am suspicious of the sources. TanRabbitry (talk) 04:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: None of the sources provided are independent of Dog Puller or the brands that created it. This sport has received no attention from anyone that isn't trying to advertise it. Recon rabbit 14:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sandy Hook, Indiana

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A spot NE of Jackson Pond where the road goes one way and the railroad the other after running in parallel for some distance. Beyond that I have nothing except the one year post office, which is never a good sign. Mangoe (talk) 04:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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●Keep - I Added Quite a few Sources, It Seems Like this Was a Fairly Populated Settlement, I also Found two well records for sandy hook. (though i did not add them as a source :https://legacy.igws.indiana.edu/pdms/WellSearch.cfm) 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 14:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of programmes broadcast by Pogo

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Fails WP:NLIST. Sources are unreliable or do not talk about the programming as a whole. Many of the sources are primary cited to the channel itself. There is currently only eight active programs which can be merged into the main Pogo (TV channel). In fact, those programs don't even appear to be original programming so they originate with another network. As far as the argument that the list serves a purpose, there is already a category for its original programming which serves such purpose, especially since the shows listed here are mainly originating from other networks. CNMall41 (talk) 05:11, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. A standard WP:SPLITLIST in the Category:Lists of television series by network. Sourcing can be improved.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This list has big problem with unreliable sources and that is why I did not opt for merge either. I went through the sources that was quite a pain in itself and found the unreliability of sources one after the other including deadlinks. If some content has to be merged with Pogo_(TV_channel)#Programming then it needs to have reliable secondary independent source to show that the channel broadcasts these programmes. RangersRus (talk) 13:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a clean up issue in my opinion, implying some work. For example, various pages redirect to that list, some after AfD decisions (example, where yourself !voted to redirect to that list, fwiw, in June this year). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Before cross check was on AFD Mighty Raju and not the list. Now that it has come to light that the list has source issue after cross checking the references through this AFD, I would not redirect any page to it. RangersRus (talk) 11:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete' Most of the sources are just Waybacks of the network's schedule which violates PRIMARY, and the network doesn't originate new content itself, just purchases programming. Nate • (chatter) 18:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the network doesn't originate new content itself, just purchases programming: no, that is not true. See my comment above and Category:Pogo_(TV_channel)_original_programming -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiram Bravo Moreno

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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this Mexican volleyball player to warrant a stand-alone article, failing WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Possible redirect targets include Mexico men's national volleyball team and 2022 FIVB Volleyball Men's World Championship squads. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 06:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vishal Vada Vala

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Simply fails WP:FILMMAKER. Sources are not helpful toward establishing notability on this subject, the ones from WP:BEFORE are not helpful either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: meets WP:DIRECTOR with at least 3 notable films directed (and WP:CREATIVE with 2 written). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:FILMMAKER. None of his work is widely cited and significantly well-known that have been the primary subject of multiple independent reviews. Only exception is film Samandar that has barely two reviews and I could not find any more. The subject has not won significant critical attention for his work. The sources on the pages lack significant coverage on the career of the subject and are more on actor'debut, title track, unveiling of teaser, claim of audience reaction, unreliable source like filmytown.com and WP:NEWSORGINDIA. RangersRus (talk) 15:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Waris Islam

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Fails WP:NWRITER and WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG. Nothing from WP:BEFORE to establish notability either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Roberto Vera Monroig

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Fails WP:NPOL. A mayor of Adjuntas needs to pass WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO to merit a standalone article, Monroig does not pass any of these. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination above, and because this is essentially one big BLP violation En Español, wrapped in a burrito of OR. He was convicted of some unmentionable behavior towards an employee, but that’s the only sourced data in the stub. Having a single source, even if reliable (which I don’t concede), is by definition original research, which Wikipedia has never published. Bearian (talk) 04:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Punam Devi

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Fails WP:NPOL, WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 11:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alaeddin Qassemi

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The only sources for this WP:BLP1E refer to a stunt over five years ago where he claimed to have produced a water powered car - a claim which was, needless to say, never independently validated. Note the conspiracist language at the end. Water powered cars are, of course, impossible: it takes more energy to split hydrogen from oxygen than you get from the hydrogen, because the laws of thermodynamics are a thing. We can describe notable bollocks (see Agha Waqar's water-fuelled car), but we can't do it without reality-based sources, and the sources here are (a) not good and (b) not truly independent, since all reference the same stunt and take his claims at face value. It is inconceivable (and yes that word does mean what I think it means) that this would not have had ongoing coverage if it were genuine. And by "ongoing coverage", I mean at the very least an all expenses paid trip to Stockholm. In the end, this is just another instance of the water powered car hoax, with its attendant conspiracy theory. Any content online is always related back to the same initial stunt. Guy (help! - typo?) 11:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Markíza Dajto

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I previously PRODded the article with the rationale being "Not notable - no in-depth independent coverage". It was deprodded by Mushy Yank with a note to look at the Slovak article. There indeed are some sources, but the only claims they make about this channel are:

that it became available on DVB-T (with some technical details), and
that Towercom resumed broadcasting it.

These two claims hardly constitute significant coverage, therefore I am renominating this article for deletion, this time at AfD. Janhrach (talk) 10:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as a WP:SPLITLIST of Markiza, a major Slovak network.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is not a list. It is an ordinary article about the channel – it is list-like because of its low quality. The article on Markíza also shouldn't be list-like; it even carries the "not a directory" improvement template. Janhrach (talk) 15:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Markíza as ATD. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Government Institute of Medical Sciences, Kasna

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Article has existed for >8 years with only primary source. Search for mentions only show trivial coverage, such as listings not accompanied by commentary. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 09:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I could be wrong, but it does not appear to award degrees; their website seems to specifically list MBBS and DNB courses without calling them degrees. The article is entirely unsourced and doesn't appear to be covered by any secondary sources. Celjski Grad (talk) 13:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nellore Airport

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Always been a proposed airport, no developments. Appears to be TOOSOON. Can be recreated if the airport actually reaches construction or approval stages. Thewikizoomer (talk) 07:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The "proposed" project is still going through designs, plans, bids, contracts, budget, approvals and is too early to warrant a standalone Page on this airport. Case of WP:TOOSOON and not notable as of yet. RangersRus (talk) 12:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:TOOSOON and fails WP:GNG. Charliehdb (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge to Dagadarthi or Nellore. This appears to have attracted a lot of coverage already, but if it isn't notable enough for a stand-alone article yet we should merge to one of the above articles. Thryduulf (talk) 16:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (or Merge) - there's extensive coverage of the project's multi-year development saga. ~~Note WP:CRYSTAL~~ Eg, 2018: Centre okays 3 airports in AP; efforts on to expedite tenders, 2020: A.P. govt. cancels Nellore international airport concession agreement, 2022:Works for Nellore airport to begin in April, 2024: Govt. proposes to set up four new airports in Andhra Pradesh. FWIW TOOSOON is not really relevant (and is an essay, WP:CRYSTAL is policy), notability is available because of the attempt to develop the airport. However, WP:NOPAGE is useful to recall and agree with Thryduulf, merging to one of the local towns could be appropriate to the point when (if) construction officially begins. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 07:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Germany, Windhoek

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Article merely confirms it exists. No third-party sources to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Sanskrit authors from lower communities

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Very unclear whether this group of "lower communities" which includes e.g. Sat-Sudra (considered higher castes), is a commonly accepted grouping with a clear definition, or some division created specifically for this article. Also not clear if the topic (Sanskrit texts by caste division) is a topic of study and whether these people are grouped together scholarly, or if this is some novel WP:SYNTH list. Fram (talk) 08:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wikipedia article of Sat-Sudra is very badly written. I have suggested an edit but my edit is reverted. Please check. Sat-shoodras are only higher than other shudras (asat shudras) and lower than every other varna. That is, Lower than Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishya. See the note on sat-shoodra there. Caste boundaries can't be clearly defined due to their complexities. The main castes are mentioned themselves which are considered lower nonetheless. Sat-shoodra only highlights their status in varna system. This is a dynamic list and more people from other communities can be added by everyone. The topic of debate has always been whether lower communities have contributed to sanskrit among scholars. This article helps in breaking the myths of denial of education and lack of scholarship among lower communities and foster inclusivity. Mohit Dokania (talk) 09:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fabiol Rexhepi

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Failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Only stat sites and passing mentions can be found. Modest career with 90 minutes in Albania's highest league and 41 games in the semi-pro second tier. Geschichte (talk) 08:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Samet Ruqi

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Failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Modest career with 5 games in Albania's highest league (according to Worldfootball) and several seasons in the semi-pro second tier. The best sources I could find were this short interview and this short transactional news piece. Geschichte (talk) 08:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – An unsourced stub without interlanguage wiki to copy over. Even if corresponding article on Albanian Wikipedia existed, it may be worse-written than here. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 10:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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CRAM diet

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An article about a medical diet treatment. Dismally sourced, and flagged as such since its creation in 2010. I can't find any reference that remotely meets WP:MEDRS (everything online seems to be a mirror or rewording of this article). I asked for expert help on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#CRAM diet to no effect. If this was in any way a notable treatment, surely there would be some worthwhile mention online for it. I don't think we should redir to the similar BRAT diet, which is much better sourced. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 06:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to BRAT diet. Specifically, a brief mention of CRAM's existence, which could be sourced to this book, would meet the Wikipedia:Editing policy goals of providing information, without needing enough sources to support a whole article. This could be a single sentence in BRAT diet#Alternatives, which already mentions the CRAM diet, and we could provide an equally brief description of the BRATTY diet sourced to this book. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Inner Mongolia

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As the article's first sentence states, Inner Mongolia does not have a flag. The article has not been reliably sourced for almost six years and this is unlikely to change because no notable flag has been claimed as the "flag of Inner Mongolia". The scope of the article is more akin to "flags used in Inner Mongolia" or "flags used by Inner Mongolian organisations", as there is a gallery of organisational flags and a brief write-up on two organisations'. However, none of this is sourced, and the actual scope of the article is extremely limited anyways, being nothing more than a mirror of a Wikimedia Commons gallery. Yue🌙 06:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The second prose paragraph almost perfectly matches the user-generated source at Flags of the World, the sole general reference. I don't think we need this article, but since I'm aware of my own personal bias against flags I can't trust myself to opine here from a basis in policy. Folly Mox (talk) 10:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Germany, Chișinău

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Fails WP:ORG. Article is merely a 1 line sentence which confirms it exists. LibStar (talk) 05:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kim Schuster

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Only cites one source of dubious reliability. Nothing else found via WP:BEFORE. (Oinkers42) (talk) 04:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Peyton Place (TV series) where she is already mentioned; there does not appear to be a "characters of" article. Jclemens (talk) 05:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect per WP:ATD. She's mentioned at the main article, and editors can decide how much she needs to be discussed (ideally with verifiable sources). Shooterwalker (talk) 14:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Chol-ho

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Choe Chol-man

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Clear craze

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Concerns about WP:GNG as raised earlier on the article's talk page by another user, which I'll repeat below:

A quick search of Google Scholar returns the sum total of one book that mentions the concept of a "clear craze" ever existing, or that it was a thing that was defined to the 1980s or 1990s. I am almost certain this article fails notability and significance. I am not sure how I ended up here to be honest but I see no significance or notability to this article or its contents. Moreover, I fail to see how the term "clear craze" is encyclopedic in any real sense. Further to the point tabloid trends do not construe a relevant or notable reason for this article to be here.

At current, this article loosely collates a list of products that were released around the 1990s that had a transparent design, which is anecdotally indeed something that some products did during that time that can be called a trend. However, the article's collation of them and framing them as a "clear craze" overstep the mark when the nomenclature and grouping is not subject to significant secondary coverage. We don't have an article for Global Village Coffeehouse even though the term means something and connotes an obvious trend without more secondary sources that substantiate the term. Some reflections include the following:

(1) Firstly, on the use of the phrase, the beverage 'clear craze' seems very loosely to be a thing that some sources like the Newsweek article in the context of the trend to create clear beverages or consumer products to reflect claims about the purity and healthiness of the product. I am not sure that this makes it notable, given that the only source really holding the article up at the moment is the Newsweek one, but it seems that this is where the term is coming from. There's very little secondary analysis, and pivotal sentences in the article like "the clear craze became official with its first wave of products" are unsourced. A brief look around for the term doesn't find much use of "clear craze" as a phrasing, although I found it in or the book The Nineties by Chuck Klosterman (around p. 191) [16]. So thinking critically here, without evidence of consumer demand for this style, "craze" at best falsely connotes a marketing strategy that does not, in fact, reflect a "craze" for the products. The most notable example on the page, Crystal Pepsi, was a failure.

(2) Following from that, on the categorisation of products included, the article spuriously conflates the concept of the 'clear craze' as it applied to beverages and consumables to other trends in transparent product design, particularly transparent casings of consumer electronics in the later 90s that seem to have occurred well after the fact of the sourced products. From what I can tell, the link isn't explicitly made by the sources. Ultimately, the article is a list of products with very little explanation of what unites them. There is not a lot of sourcing or analysis to justify why certain things are in the article other than that an editor or other has found a source about a clear-looking product from that era, attributed it to the "clear craze", and put it in. This is not really the most rigorous approach when trying to define a term for a historical design trend.

If this is deemed notable, suggest a rewrite of the article focusing on (a) the substance and use of the term, and (b) being more rigorous about what about products from that era make it attributable to the trend, backed by sources. Welcome any thoughts - thanks! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 04:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ansolet Rossouw

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Not a notable model. No references that are non-trivial and non-promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Point me to which references are "trivial" or "promotional" as last I checked, News24 is a South African news website, not PR Newswire. Marie Claire is a fashion magazine. V is a fashion magazine. CR Fashion Book is a fashion magazine and so on. None of them are providing trivia. They verified the work she's done and according to the sources… it's notable. Trillfendi (talk) 05:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, trivial mentions. Fails WP:GNG. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just asking (again) as the original creator where the "trivial mentions" in particular are here. Because according to the many sources I've been able to find that substantiate independent notability, the work in her career especially on the runway is notable. Being on the cover of Vogue in any country as a model, is notable, let alone multiple countries. Most of these metrics were decided years ago when reassessing WP:NMODEL. Sources ranging from actual newspapers in South Africa (where she and her story were literally on the front page) to actual fashion magazines, I just don't see the perceived failure of GNG. Nobody has given a clear answer on it. Trillfendi (talk) 18:36, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Central Illinois' On-Line Broadcast Museum

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Fails WP:GNG; written like an advertisement. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – includes references and suitable information, needs to settle down rather than have instant dismissal. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:NORG with no WP:SIGCOV for the museum. Each of the sources is about its founder Doug Quick, with (at most) a glancing mention of the fact that he founded this organization. The closest we get is this local radio story, but even that is mostly about Quick with just a couple WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of the museum. I'd suggest a redirect to Doug Quick but that page already redirects here. If someone wants to create that page so I can change my !vote, please ping me but otherwise I'm left with "delete." Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can work on converting the Doug Quick page to his bio and make a museum section and then merge this with the new Doug Quick Page, if you think this would work. BuffaloBob (talk) 18:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie: Your take? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cornerstone International School

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Declined draft moved by original author. Article is about a school with no independent significant coverage from reliable sources. This fails WP:NORG. I am not opposed to this going back to draft if evidence that this private school is potentially notable is given. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, this is wasting time in AFD, it should have been deleted via CSD A7. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:A7 specifically doesn't apply to education institutions. I think this is the right venue, although moving declined drafts to mainspace is what is time wasting. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Draftify or else just delete it, and to be clear, if it were draftified and then moved to mainspace again without an accepted AfC submission, I would !vote to delete. I have tried searching, although the name is tricky as it is not unique. Adding Nigeria as a qualfier turns up almost nothing and nothing useful. Sources may exist that are not in English, but as it stands there is no demonstration of notability on the page, nor any other sources to consider. On the plus side, the school has been open nearly 30 years and appears to have a suitably large role that its notability within the area it serves may well be sufficient. Schools don't have to be internationally renowened to have a page, but they do need to be shown to be notable with reliable secondary sources. The page creator has added quite a lot of good history, but the sourcing on that is also unclear. The creator is new to Wikipedia, and perhaps unaware of the notability guidelines, and it would be unfortunate to waste their efforts by summarily deleting this page. I think draftify is appropriate in this case. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cornerstone International School is one of the most reputable and notable schools in port harcourt, Nigeria. You could try searching on Google for Cornerstone International School Port Harcourt. It is literally the biggest school in town which is why I was surprised when t wasn’t in the list of notable schools in port harcourt, category and then I decided to add it. The other schools in the area you can check also don’t have as reputable online sources except their website information because schools or anything not political rarely get written about online in that area of the world. I think yall are using your first world lenses a bit. That school is really renowned. 31.205.127.189 (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete : There is no point draftifying since the article creator believes the subject is notable. I have done my research on Google. The school might be popular in Port Harcourt but fails to meet WP:GNG. All the media on the article page was uploaded 25 August 2024 which was yesterday. So there is something fishy that is either the article creator created another account to upload the images or he or she knows the creator of those images, they both work in hands. All media should be deleted as well as they do not proof owner of self publish work but gotten from either the school website or from images uploaded already by someone on google.--Gabriel (……?) 11:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Siebel Scholars

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Insufficient referencing to demonstrate notability. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments - First, there are several websites with text almost identical to this article, but I can't tell whether the WP article is WP:COPYVIO or a case of citogenesis: (1), (2), (3).

The article needs to be revised to resolve the possible copyvio problem.

Second, there are sources that could be used in an overhaul effort for this article:

Third, there are multiple listings by college, annually, naming scholarship awardees at the various institutions, with descriptions of the award, which colud provide in depth, reliable sources to revise the article.

Last, perhaps the best solution to the problem of potential copyvio might be to draftify this article, and rebuild it from secondary, reliable sources. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A copyvio is unlikely. Looking through the article's history, the current version developed slowly over time. Here is the copyvio comparison for your link no. 1. It's blatantly obvious (and also kinda funny) that they just copied text from Wikipedia and made some minor changes to disguise it ("29" -> "various", "selected" -> "chosen", "on the basis of" -> "based on"). The comparison tool doesn't work for the other two links, but they're dated so we can look at the latest revision before they were published. For both no. 2 and no. 3, the text was already there. So the copyright concerns are baseless and the article should definitely not be draftified. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There is a list of potential sources here, though it seems they are all from universities involved with the programme. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jia Rizivi

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Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers.
The attempted notability claim here is an unreferenced list of minor awards from small-fry film festivals whose awards are not instant notability clinchers -- WP:NFILM is looking for Oscars, Canadian Screen Awards, BAFTAs or major film festivals on the order of Cannes, Berlin or TIFF whose awards get broadly reported by the media as news, not just any film festival that exists -- but apart from two hits of "local woman does stuff" in her own hometown media (and a New York Times hit that tangentially verifies the existence of a podcast that she was not involved in creating, and thus is not about her in any GNG-contributing sense), this is otherwise referenced entirely to primary and unreliable sources that are not support for notability at all.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have a stronger notability claim, and better sourcing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: Article was at a misspelling of her name: I moved it to Jia Rizvi (as on her website and in other sources), then realised one isn't supposed to move an article during an AfD and moved it back again. So as I type it is at the wrong title. PamD
Note also: most sources refer to her as Jia Wertz, but her own web page uses Rizvi. PamD 09:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: there seem to be enough articles about her as film-maker. It was a badly-written article but I've cleaned up some of the problems - use of forename, curly quotes, lack of links, overlinks, etc. PamD 09:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And bizarre system of reference names too: "one" etc. Have fixed the most-re-used. PamD 10:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. She doesn’t seem to pass WP:NDIRECTOR but the Calgary Herald and GlobalNews profiles are sufficient SIGCOV for this to clear WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:TOOSOON. She’s won some accolades in smaller film festivals, but not the bigger ones like Cannes (which actually isn’t that difficult to get into). Right now, the sourcing isn’t up to the level we usually expect from significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 02:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shirley Ho

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Does not meet WP:GNG nor WP:ACADEMIC Possible self-promotion page. Does not meet WP:GNG nor WP:ACADEMIC.

Regarding WP:GNG: essentially all references point directly to the individual's personal website, personal pages at affiliated institutions (Simons, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon University, NYU), or publications
Regarding WP:PROF: the achievements are low compared to the field average (astrophysics), and many claims are not really supported by references even after searching the internet. More in detail, testing the criteria for academic notability:

Impact: citation rates in astrophysics tend to be high, due to membership in large collaborations. Most of the citations come from such memberships
Awards: Giuseppe and Vanna Cocconi Prize and NASA Group Achievement Award are group collaboration awards given to members of a large collaboration; Macronix Prize is also given for "leadership in large, international collaborations" as well; Carnegie Science Award and National Blavatnik Finalist have arguable prestige to justify the existence of a Wikipedia page
Scholarly association: the International Astrostatistics Association Fellow is not highly selective or prestigious (its Wikipedia page itself lacks secondary sources)
Impact on Higher education: no evidence
Distinguished appointment: there is no evidence of the alleged Cooper-Siegel Development Chair Professorship, other than the subject's website and CVs. In any case, this is a junior professorship that lasts up to 3 years and can only be renewed once
Administrative post: no evidence
Impact outside academia: lack of broad media coverage
Scientific editor: no evidence

In spite of the brilliant career, the subject's accomplishments and impact do not probably warrant a Wikipedia page? Georgebrown5566 (talk) 17:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. There do appear to be autobiography issues here, and that needs to stop, but I don't think that's an adequate reason for deletion by itself. This is a field where participants in huge collaborations get tiny parts in publications with huge citation numbers, and Ho is no exception. My usual strategy here is to look at first-author publications, realizing that this will also produce significantly smaller citation counts. For Ho I find on Google Scholar citation counts of 454 ("Correlation of CMB with large-scale structure I"), 176 ("Clustering of sloan digital sky survey III"), 53 ("Sloan Digital Sky Survey III photometric quasar clustering"), 47 ("The Posterior distribution of sin (i) values"), 42 ("Luminous red galaxy population") etc. If that were all, I wouldn't think it quite enough for WP:PROF#C1. But we also have individual recognition and to some extent in-depth coverage of her with the Macronix Prize [17], (state-level) Carnegie Science award [18], Blavatnik finalist [19], and fellowship of an obscure society. We also have some media coverage of her for her work on AI-based universe simulation [20]. I think it all adds up to enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:50, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's true, it seems quite arguable. I am a bit skeptical about WP:PROF#C2 as an additional criterion to satisfy WP:PROF#C1 because it seems hard for me to judge the prestige of the awards. There has been media coverage, but it does not seem to be independent of her affiliations (e.g. CMU).
- Winners of the Macronix Prize (now OYRA [21]) generally do not seem to have Wikipedia pages, and the prize itself does not seem to get much media coverage
- The Carnegie Science award is at the state level and again seems to be mainly covered by her university, Carnegie Mellon (which is enough to document that she won the prize, but not to judge whether it is prestigious)
- It is also not clear whether the Blavatnik Award for Young Scientists is important enough to warrant a Wikipedia page (the wikipedia page itself has not been for a few years)
- Media coverage of her work on AI-based universe simulation [22] comes from the foundation where she is a group leader, the Simons Foundation, and is not a secondary source
It seems that secondary and independent coverage would help to confirm the importance of these achievements. Georgebrown5566 (talk) 22:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep?. An unusual GS citation record like hers needs to be scrutinized as there are many reports around recently of citation gaming. This is a high citation field but I note that many of her papers have few authors which supports the strength of her contributions for a pass under WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Trying to understand whether this should be considered extraordinary impact, I just had a look at Web of Science (which usually only considers actual citations to peer-reviewed journals). It reads 9 publications as first author (2 of them with more than 50 citations) and 23 as last author (3 of them with more than 50 citations). In addition, there are ~20 publications with more than 50 citations on GS where Ho is neither first nor last author. Georgebrown5566 (talk) 07:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Impact: It should be noted that in Machine Learning (which currently Shirley Ho is publishing in recently this area substantially), the senior author who guides the work are usually at the *END* of the author list, and when there are two senior authors, then they are listed towards the end as well. Notable examples includes the following: Lagrangian Neural Network Discovering Symbolic Models from Deep Learning with Inductive Biases

It should also be noted that while there were multiple large collaboration papers that included her name that may have biased the citation count, the number of participants in these large astronomy collaborations tend to be hundreds to thousands, while most of her papers have small number (~6) of collaborators where she seems to be the senior person.

Awards: National Blavatnik Finalist award is given 28 scientists across the country (including fields ranging from biology, ecology, life sciences, to chemistry, computer science, engineering, physics to applied mathematics). LINK The website seems to point to quite a serious selection process as well.

Media coverage of her work: She is the PI / director of Polymathic AI (which is a collaboration building an AI scientist). The work of Polymathic seems to have received quite a bit of media coverage: a few examples: [7], [8] [9], [10] [11] Surelyyouarejoking (talk) 01:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to the 11 edit (all on this subject) for these comments. Do you have any connection with the subject that should be reported under WP:COI? Xxanthippe (talk) 02:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

WP:COI: It is indeed an interesting coincidence that "Surely" in User:Surelyyouarejoking is pronounced similarly to "Shirley", and that the page was originally created by a similar single-purpose profile User:Shirleysurely and soon deleted for lack of notability. Georgebrown5566 (talk) 07:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Georgebrown5566, you are also a new user account, and nominating Shirley Ho for deletion is your third edit ever. Doesn't this suggest your account to also be a similar single-purpose profile? CaptainAngus (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was more of a triggering event. As a scientist too (in a different field) it hurts to see relatively young scientists using this site to boost their notoriety. Instead of complaining, I thought I could make the difference, and more is coming! You can see more contributions on my side (time permitting), I asked my mentor if I am following the right procedure, and yes, please feel free to give feedback or suggest other ways to help! I don't know the person or the specific awards, this is what I could find online, so please double check :) Georgebrown5566 (talk) 06:01, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Impact: (please see the comment above for the discussion about the questionable impact, considering both first and last authorship); papers should be peer-reviewed to be considered, and [23], which appears to be only a preprint, does not contribute to WP:PROF#1; according to Web of Science, Ho appears to be the senior person on about 14% of her publications
Awards: the question is whether the Blavatnik Prize is a major award comparable with the Nobel prize or Fields Medal, or whether it still conveys a high level of academic prestige; in the case of Blavatnik, Ho is a finalist but did not even win the full award [24].
Media coverage: should we consider the contributions to "Polymathic AI" as general notability WP:GNG? the organization does not have a Wikipedia page and does not seem to conduct peer-reviewed scientific research (I could only find one published paper of arguable impact). The mentioned articles show media coverage but do not show impact, since they mainly refer to the beginning of the collaboration but not to its achievements; it is written in an interview style and many of the articles come from institutions affiliated with the initiative [9, 11], probably not independent.

Maybe this could be considered for WP:TOOSOON? Georgebrown5566 (talk) 07:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TOOSOON is what you say, after justifying a delete opinion, when you think they are on track to become notable later. It is not a justification in itself. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per NPROF#5. A named chair at Carnegie Mellon is listed here ("She joined Carnegie Mellon as an Assistant Professor in 2011, becoming Cooper Siegel Career Development Chair Professor and tenured Associate Professor.")
I consider @David Eppstein's comments on citations and prizes persuasive as well, in lieu of my own capacity to weigh in on their relevance. Oblivy (talk) 02:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That definitely does not pass #C5, though. C5 is for "a comparable level of achievement" to distinguished professor, a step above an ordinary full professorship. A "career development chair" given to newly tenured associate professors does not match that description. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  That makes sense. In fact, I found the listing of dual-roles (chaired professor and associate professor) confusing. So much to learn... Oblivy (talk) 05:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The awards (or near awards) all together come very close to meeting WP:NACADEMIC. I would have expected more independent Google news coverage (so as to satisfy WP:GNG), but I think on net this meets the WP:NACADEMIC guidelines. Malinaccier (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casino chip collecting

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn - I might've nominated this too soon. (non-admin closure)‎ MiasmaEternal☎ 05:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails to meet the WP:GNG at first glance - no cited sources are independent or reliable, and does not appear to have significant coverage. MiasmaEternal☎ 01:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In a brief, preliminary search I can see that the topic of casino chip collecting has been the subject of significant coverage in a wide variety of sources including:

Overall I believe there is enough to justify inclusion. The article as it stands is not well sourced, but I believe there is enough sourcing out there. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three of these revolve around a Guinness Book of World Records entry - a search on WP:RSN indicates a mixed opinion on the notability of Guinness Book of World Records. As for the rest of the articles, the majority seem to be mainly about individual chip collectors or (in the case of the NY Times article) a chip collecting convention, not the subject of chip collection. MiasmaEternal☎ 02:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I concede to you that the coverage primarily focuses on the conventions themselves rather than the hobby of chip collecting in isolation. However, the existence of dedicated conventions for casino chip collecting is a strong indicator of the topics's notability, particularly given their reporting in perrenial sources. These conventions highlight the significant community interest and engagement in chip collecting. To me, fact that enthusiasts gather to discuss, trade, and showcase collections, highlight's the notability of the topic. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the sources identified by @MaxnaCarta especially the LV Sun and 3newsLV articles., Delmarvanow and Norwich Bulletin are substantial but maybe too regional. Plus a price guide which I think counts as book-length treatment of the subject for notability purposes, or at least significant coverage to the extent of any prefatory material.

I would note that the nomination statement does not state a WP:BEFORE search was done. Rather it appears to be based on "at first glance" and "cited sources". Such searches, if done, might have avoided an AfD as there are plentiful sources not found in the article. Oblivy (talk) 03:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alüto

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The only Japanese-language sources I found seem to be press releases when machine translated. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 01:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Japan. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 01:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not seeing any indication of notability. Before search returned nothing. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:32, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I looked for sources on Google and Newspapers.com. Nothing came up, I also translated the sources in the article and they are not independent or in-depth. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]