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- William Tell (upcoming film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacking significant coverage per WP:NFF, draftify until the film receives WP:SIGCOV BOVINEBOY2008 16:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Balsamic Moon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sources are cited and I was unable to find any with a Google search. I was also unable, with a Google search, to find an entry in a reliable dictionary. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Contao (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All sources appear to be first-party - this looks like it could be self-promotional and non-notable to me. It seems to be German-origin software, and I tried looking at the Deutsch Wiki version of the article to see if it was any better, but it seems to be in roughly the same state. Hornpipe2 (talk) 15:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Yaseen Abdalla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet any of the criteria listed for track & field and long-distance running. (1) did not finish top 8 of the European Athletics Championships, Commonwealth Games, or any of the 6 World Major Marathons. (2) did not finish in the top 3 in any other major senior-level international competition. (3) Have not won an individual gold medal at the IAAF World Junior Championships or Youth World Championships. The list continues. Also, 2 out of the 4 sources used are sport-aggregate websites that collect statistics about any and every athlete. In the 3rd ref, he was mentioned in passing. He might be good at the Youth level, but he did not win any international events. FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Leaning Keep. The Sudanese flagbearer at the 2024 Olympics. Significant coverage here and here in accordance with WP:GNG. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of windmills in Friesland (T–V) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unclear why we would need such a detailed list of a type of building, most of which are not individually notable and no longer existing. Replicating other, highly specialised databases here is not really the purpose of Wikipedia. There are or were more than 20,000 windmills in the Netherlands, and many more in other countries. Fram (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Also nominated for deletion are:
- List of windmills in Friesland (A–C)
- List of windmills in Friesland (D)
- List of windmills in Friesland (E–G)
- List of windmills in Friesland (H–I)
- List of windmills in Friesland (J–K)
- List of windmills in Friesland (L–M)
- List of windmills in Friesland (N–P)
- List of windmills in Friesland (R–S)
- Keep All - per WP:NLIST - the individual windmills do not need to be notable. As the editor doing the majority of work on the various lists of windmills, I've been using my discretion to include all windmills which can be verified to have existed. That the Friesland list has had to be split into several sub-lists is determined by the amount of templates that can be included before the limit size is exceeded. There are over 100 lists of windmills, many of which include all mills. Are we to delete those too? Mjroots (talk) 15:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The individual entries don't need to be notable if the group is notable, and even then "editors may, at their discretion, choose to limit large lists by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles." A list which needs to be split in 9 separate pages is a large list, and a discussion whether this isn't overkill (assuming the group is notable) is perfectly acceptable, independent of whether we have other lists of windmills or not (I note that many of these other lists seem to be limited to still existing windmills, not including the often shortlived ones from the past). Fram (talk) 15:37, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The majority of the UK windmills lists cover all known windmills. Mjroots (talk) 15:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The individual entries don't need to be notable if the group is notable, and even then "editors may, at their discretion, choose to limit large lists by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles." A list which needs to be split in 9 separate pages is a large list, and a discussion whether this isn't overkill (assuming the group is notable) is perfectly acceptable, independent of whether we have other lists of windmills or not (I note that many of these other lists seem to be limited to still existing windmills, not including the often shortlived ones from the past). Fram (talk) 15:37, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Madhur Sharma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Madhur_Sharma. Still doesn't fit WP:NSINGER or WP:GNG BoraVoro (talk) 14:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Why did you choose AfD instead of WP:G4. GrabUp - Talk 15:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Axel Meise (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources are about the company; fails to meet WPANYBIO; COI (created by the employee - see the name of the author). BoraVoro (talk) 14:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Digiboxx (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of reliable sources, notability and media coverage. BoraVoro (talk) 14:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- 2024 OFC U-16 Men's Championship squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:LISTN as collection of non-notable children. It lacks independent sources and it doesn't help that is so incomplete either. Moreover, there exists ample precedent to delete youth squads across continents and sports at AFD/2019 AFC U-16 Women's Championship squads, AFD/2022 South American Under-17 Women's Football Championship squads, AFD/2016 South American U-17 Women's Championship squads, AFD/2017 AFF U-18 Youth Championship squads, AFD/2015 FIBA Africa Under-16 Championship squads, AFD/2009 FIBA Africa Under-16 Championship for Women squads, AFD/2011 African U-17 Championship squads, AFD/2013 SAFF U-16 Championship squads. Geschichte (talk) 13:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Waterloo Co‑operative Residence Inc. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about a student housing cooperative, not properly referenced as passing WP:ORGDEPTH. As always, organizations are not automatically notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to have WP:GNG-worthy coverage in third-party reliable sources from a geographic range beyond the purely local -- but five of the nine footnotes here are directly affiliated primary sources that aren't support for notability (its self-published content about itself from either its own website or its pre-web newsletter, and a directory entry on the website of an umbrella organization that it's a member of) and a sixth comes from the university student newspaper of the university whose students this co-op serves, which still isn't independent of the topic and thus doesn't count toward GNG at all.
And while the three remaining footnotes are proper media coverage, they still aren't building a particular strong case for inclusion: they're all just going "Newspaper, Date" without providing the title of any specific content in that newspaper on that date, and two of them are from the local daily newspaper and thus aren't counting for anything toward the ORGDEPTH test.
So there's only one footnote here ("National" Post 1967, which is really the Financial Post since the National Post didn't exist under that name until the 1990s) that's starting to build a proper case for notability, but just one hit of extralocal coverage isn't enough to get this over ORGDEPTH all by itself.
This just doesn't state anything about the co-op that would be "inherently" notable enough to exempt it from having to be referenced better than this. Bearcat (talk) 13:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Zeisel number (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I could not find more sources about the Zeisel number. Most of the engine searches as in Google Books or Google Scholar shows the Zeisel number is related to chemistry instead of mathematics. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 12:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Marvín Amparo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Vice president but no reliable sources nor any WP ANYBIO points to meet. BoraVoro (talk) 13:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy Delete and SALT See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvin Santana, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvín Sántana, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvín A. Santana, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvin Amparo Santana. Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yam Kaspers Anshel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A first runner-up Miss Israel who did not place in the Miss Universe pageant doesn't merit an article. All I'm seeing is "What 7 Miss Universe contestants look like without makeup on" in Business Insider India. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Very Filmy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 12:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Wait, but why you actually said it passes WP:GNG earlier? And you removed the notability tags twice when I added them. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: sources covering production, controversy and critical appraisal are in my opinion enough for this to be retained. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The Podcats (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 12:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Ian_Parovel#Filmography: not opposed to keep (broadcast on major French networks during years, some sources but no time to improve it) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Creepy Crawlies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 12:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Cosgrove_Hall_Films#1980s: for now; but some sources seem to show this could deserve a standalone page (like https://c3z3.com/www.animatormag.com/issue-17/issue-17-page-23/ which is based on an interview but offers comments on the production), so not opposed to Keep -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Venkataramane Gowda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. None of the positions occupied is NPOL-worthy. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Ellis Rubin (actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:TOOSOON for this actor. One credit in a major film isn't enough to satisfy WP:NACTOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Royal and Merciful Society of the Bearer of Medals and Awards of Belgium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacks notability, all the sources are expired domains, Wix websites and Wordpress blogs. Seems to be yet another title mill organization. They seem to have a Facebook group which lists their PO BOX address as being in Washington State US, further increasing my skepticism of this being a legitimate org. D1551D3N7 (talk) 11:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Duke Concept (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. The sourcing relies entirely on interviews with people connected with the company, announcements, or mentions in passing due to their involvement in organising events, those sources do not contain any in-depth "Independent Content" about the company. HighKing++ 17:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi- just wanted to contribute as the writer of the article. I wrote it after reading about the company's focus on work in the black diaspora, which aligned with a wiki project I've been involved with on and off. I did look closely at the sources for this article, because I know the ones I was using to establish notability (references 1-3) have interview content within them, but in looking at each article overall it seemed that there was significant content outside of the interview quotations, and that that content contained independent analysis- including looking at the wider industry context they are operating in, with statistics etc included in that. I also looked at the publications and writers to make sure they were both independent from the subject and engage in fact checking as part of their editorial process. I know 100% interview content does not establish notability, but I feel it is fairly uncommon for independent articles on companies or the people behind them not to structure their articles around a fair amount of interview content. The fact the company were also included in a way that was more than a passing mention in other major stories on Afrobeats, like the Rolling Stone one, suggested to me notability within the Afrobeats industry. Anyway, I just wanted to engage and outline why I used the sources I did. Thanks Thebookstamper (talk) 19:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point to specific paragraphs in the sources that contain in-depth "Independent Content" about the *company* that you believe meets the criteria for establishing notability? HighKing++ 18:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry if this is a bit messy, I'm doing it on the fly, so haven't gone through all the sources. Appreciate it might not be the most forensic exercise because of that... Thanks for your time.
- In the Pulse article:
- (Citing these as examples of content about the company, not directly generated by something the company has said, or paraphrasing. They may reference something said by the company, but as I see it are writing their own analysis around that. Or the company is then responding to a point made by the publication.)
- Section: ‘The show which became a lesson’
- Coupled with the rise of social media, that show contributes to how Ugeh now perceives social media as a marketing tool. These days, his team studies social media based on demographics. Some artists are stronger on Facebook than Twitter or TikTok while others are bigger on Instagram. Some artists are also big on the four. An artist’s audience determines social media marketing and engagement is a key metric for measurement. While Ugeh admits that social media has aided event companies, he admits that social media phenomena should be taken with a pinch of salt.
- Section: ‘What’s the process of organising a show at Duke Concept’
- Sometimes, unplanned artists also approach the team through their booking agents The team then uses a data-driven approach to see where the artists can sell and whether Duke Concept would be willing to tour those places. These days, the events happen in mid-range markets to big markets. It’s unlikely that Duke Concept would take an Afrobeat artist to a small and predominantly white market like Milwaukee, Wisconsin at this time [...]
- It makes sense. The attitude of a city like Boston to touring and nightlife would be much different to that of smaller markets. The pulse of young attendees also matters as much as their priorities. It's more likely that a 21-year-old, who was bred in New York would be willing to spend $200 on a ticket than his equivalent in a smaller market. Ugeh offers it from a perspective of comparative analysis, not with factual totality. As much as urban culture influences pop culture, the rising state of Afrobeats suggests that the racial spread of America must be taken into consideration while planning an event for an Afrobeats artist.
- Section: 'Pricing'
- (In response to Ugeh referencing fair pricing set by Duke Concept):
- But pricing also depends on the format of the venue. As much as Duke Concept might charge $250 for front row seats in a seated theatre, the people at the back might pay as low as $30. While ticketing is already booming, secondary ticketing has grown a life of its own. Market Watch reports that, “The global Secondary Tickets market size is projected to reach USD 2755.5 million by 2027, from USD 1502 million in 2020, at a CAGR of 9.1% between 2021-2027.” Ugeh believes that there is nothing anybody can do about it. He believes that the best way to fight it is to encourage people to purchase their tickets early enough, discourage hoarding of tickets and to always make tickets available at the venue.
- WMV article:
- (Including this para as an example of referencing another source- an interview given to a different publication, not their own):
- The Nigerian moved to New York City with his family a decade ago and shortly after; launched the company. In the early days tried to do an Afro-Caribbean showcase with headliners Timaya and Mavado in 2014, he told Pulse it was a “flop”. He references that show as growing pains but one lesson he learned was that; Caribbean events are marketed differently from African events- mainly Afro-music require digital promotions while at the time reggae- dancehall events required linear advertising, along with street “posters”and guerrilla marketing.
- Rolling Stone:
- Now, there’s plenty more evidence that Afrobeats is connecting in the U.S. Last October, Burna Boy became the first African solo artist to headline the Hollywood Bowl; this year, he’s slated to play Madison Square Garden, the first headlining performance for a Nigerian musician at the storied New York venue. Duke Concept, the production company behind the shows, was founded by Osita Ugeh in 2013, two years after he moved to the United States from Nigeria. The business initially had to be scrappy, producing concerts at small nightclubs and DIY warehouses — some of the only venues available to Afropop artists at the time.
- Today, things look much different. In 2018, Duke Concept secured a partnership with Live Nation, and last year spearheaded the U.S. tours of African acts such as Wizkid, Omah Lay, Olamide, Adekunle Gold, and Diamond Platnumz.
- Billboard:
- Osita “Duke” Ugeh, who, as CEO of promoter Duke Concept, has been booking U.S. tours for African acts like Burna for the last decade. (He secured Burna’s first sold-out U.S. show in April 2019 at Harlem’s Apollo Theater — where he again made history as the first Afrobeats artist to sell out the venue.) But as Ugeh knows well, Burna’s arrival at the Garden was far from preordained. Since founding Duke Concept in 2013, he has struggled to get artists like him into big rooms. Now, as Afrobeats continues to expand its reach, Ugeh says he and his 15-person team are starting to see that reflected in the kind of venues the genre’s artists can play: He has gone from booking two to three U.S. tours for Afrobeats artists a year to booking two to three a month, with Davido, Tiwa Savage, Rema and more scheduled for later this year.
- When his “One Night in Space” show at the Garden was announced in December, Duke Concept launched a joint venture with Live Nation, expanding upon a relationship that began in 2018, when Burna himself approached the company about a tour deal. He insisted on bringing Ugeh along; subsequently, UTA’s Christian Bernhardt, Burna’s touring agent, introduced Ugeh to Live Nation’s director of touring, Andy Messersmith. Thebookstamper (talk) 19:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment and edit. Thanks to Thebookstamper for the comprehensive response but I don't agree that the extracted paragraphs provide sufficient in-depth information about the company. The Pulse article extracts are either commenting on or repeating comments made by the company or providing stats about the secondary ticketing market. The WMV article talks about the founder (not the company) and does not have any in-depth information about the company. The Rolling Stone article has a (generic) sentence describing the company and also repeats an announcement about securing a partnership - neither sufficiently detailed. The Billboard article is again about the founder or the partnership, not the company and does not provide any "Independent Content" by way of analysis/commentary/etc, just repeats information already provided by the company. HighKing++ 09:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @HighKing, please change this !vote into a comment, it is double dipping with your nome statement. Mach61 03:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done, thanks! HighKing++ 13:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment and edit. Thanks to Thebookstamper for the comprehensive response but I don't agree that the extracted paragraphs provide sufficient in-depth information about the company. The Pulse article extracts are either commenting on or repeating comments made by the company or providing stats about the secondary ticketing market. The WMV article talks about the founder (not the company) and does not have any in-depth information about the company. The Rolling Stone article has a (generic) sentence describing the company and also repeats an announcement about securing a partnership - neither sufficiently detailed. The Billboard article is again about the founder or the partnership, not the company and does not provide any "Independent Content" by way of analysis/commentary/etc, just repeats information already provided by the company. HighKing++ 09:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point to specific paragraphs in the sources that contain in-depth "Independent Content" about the *company* that you believe meets the criteria for establishing notability? HighKing++ 18:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Have to agree with the nom that none of the sources that cover this subject in detail are sufficiently independent; w/r/t Thebookstamper’s argument that the articles which have interview content have non-interview content as well, I would note that just because a statement isn't in quotation marks doesn't mean it was a journalist's own independent writing; it may be a paraphrase of what the subject said during the interview, or information provided by the subject in a press kit or such. Mach61 09:14, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Passed the guideline WP:GNG very clearly, as i have understood it. Faizi Dehlvi (talk) 18:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Faizi Dehlvi, the appropriate guidelines for companies includes WP:NCORP which sets out the requirements for sourcing. Can you point to 2 sources (including paragraph/page) where the content meets the requirements? Thank you. HighKing++ 10:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The subject passes notability guidelines for Organization.Have a look into this article [1] Sanzeb (talk) 18:31, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sanzeb, I've already looked (and commented) on the Rolling Stone article and it makes exactly two mentions of the company, and nothing that you would call in-depth about the company and also relies entirely on information provided by Ugeh and the company, so not "Independent Content" either. Can you explain the content in that article you say passes WP:NCORP? Also, to pass NCORP, multiple sources are required. HighKing++ 10:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Can you also comment on how you popped up after over 2 years of not editing here (and before that, hardly any editing at all), just to !vote at this AfD? Not exactly an area for inexperienced editors to participate in. HighKing++ 10:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Subject does not appear to pass WP:NCORP. TarnishedPathtalk 01:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Don’t especially agree with the recent keep contributions, but would say Keep for this one, looking at the main refs- pulse and wmv articles are more than only interviews, following discussion above. Or Draftify if not- maybe it’s borderline right now but could be more notable with time. Editing84 (talk) 02:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Editing84 it isn't just "interviews", we need in-depth "Independent Content" which isn't simply regurgitating company/exec provided info. Nothing in Pulse and WMV that isn't repeating company info that I can see - what bits are you referring to? I've no objections to Draftify either. HighKing++ 13:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- List of miscellaneous fictional animals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This list is going too far into WP:INDISCRIMINATE and doesn't pass WP:NLIST. (1) Most listed animals don't have stand-alone articles, making their inclusion of "notable" fictional animals quite doubtful. (2) It's "miscellaneous" fictional species, i.e. most listed animals don't have anything in common besides being of an uncommon species, i.e. List of Xs not in list of A, B or C. – sgeureka t•c 12:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge This seems very much a technical WP:SPLIT purely based on Wikipedia-internal considerations: We have many Lists of fictional animals, and those whose type does not appear on any of them land here as "miscellaneous". The topic "fictional animals" is clearly notably. So if we want to keep the individual entries of "miscellaneous" animals out of Lists of fictional animals for reasons of readability, this would be a WP:SIZESPLIT and therefore the notability requirement would be fullfilled by the parent topic. Personally, I prefer to merge (the relevant content) completely to Lists of fictional animals.As for the WP:INDISCRIMINATE criticism, first of all it makes little sense to me that this list here duplicates list-links from Lists of fictional animals. So if kept separately, these should be trimmed. And otherwise defining an inclusion critereon solves this issue, the most simple being to only include notable fictional animals (not listed elsewhere). This may mean a major trim, but there would still be a lot of entries left for this list to make sense as a list of the purpose of navigation. Daranios (talk) 15:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have trimmed the article of entries without stand-alone articles per your suggestion (though I have not removed the links to the other lists). TompaDompa (talk) 00:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Scratch that, I have now removed the list-links as well. TompaDompa (talk) 00:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, TompaDompa: The list is now down to the content I wanted to preserve in one way or another, an inclusion critereon is not only spelled out but also implemented, so that this is in no way WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Size-wise the list is now in my view both long enough to be viable as a stand-alone article and small enough to be fitted into Lists of fictional animals, so this comes down to an editorial decision. Daranios (talk) 14:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Scratch that, I have now removed the list-links as well. TompaDompa (talk) 00:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have trimmed the article of entries without stand-alone articles per your suggestion (though I have not removed the links to the other lists). TompaDompa (talk) 00:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete/Redirect if unsourced information doesn't fit in an existing article the answer is to clean it up, not dump it into an article that fails Wikipedia policies. This is an WP:INDISCRIMINATE segmentation of a badly referenced list. Jontesta (talk) 16:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The article is not well sourced, so it should not be merged. This topic does not meet LISTN and the entries have barely anything in common. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jontesta and QuicoleJR: By that argument, all lists about fictional animals I've seen should be deleted, because sourcing is very much the same as here. Simply trimming things down to blue-linked entries solves the problem of sourcing, as the information is then present at another Wikipedia article. A list for the purpose of navigation does not strictly need references for that reason. And then, things are longer WP:INDISCRIMINATE as well. Daranios (talk) 17:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- I still don't think "miscellaneous fictional animals" meets LISTN, and the souring was only an argument against a merge, not an argument for deleting. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @QuicoleJR: I was also concerned about merging, not keeping: Lists of fictional animals also does not have any sourcing, naturally, and does not need it because its purpose is navigation. Ideally it allows anyone to successively browse to any fictional animal featured on Wikipedia. Except if this list here is deleted, it doesn't anymore. Any fictional animal which does not happen to belong to a larger group, where it was decided to have a separate list, would then be excluded from this type of navigation. I believe that would be less-than-ideal, an (albeit small) disservice to the usability of Wikipedia. So what would be the reason not to find a way to make the blue-linked entries here available in this navigation scheme? Daranios (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- I still don't think "miscellaneous fictional animals" meets LISTN, and the souring was only an argument against a merge, not an argument for deleting. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:29, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jontesta and QuicoleJR: By that argument, all lists about fictional animals I've seen should be deleted, because sourcing is very much the same as here. Simply trimming things down to blue-linked entries solves the problem of sourcing, as the information is then present at another Wikipedia article. A list for the purpose of navigation does not strictly need references for that reason. And then, things are longer WP:INDISCRIMINATE as well. Daranios (talk) 17:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- None of the examples in WP:INDISCRIMINATE is even remotely applicable here. Deletion votes need to have proper reasoning. — Timwi (talk) 06:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep — Rampant deletionism at its finest. As already noted, there are lists of fictional animals such as dogs, cats, etc. To just remove all of the animals that happen to be of a species that is rarer in fiction just because you don’t like the term miscellaneous for being “indiscriminate” is just silly. Stop the deletionism, keep Wikipedia complete and useful!! — Timwi (talk) 06:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or merge. This was a WP:SPLIT. We should really not dictate that stuff be split out of an article due to size constraints and then twenty years later mosey up and say "uh, why is there this lil lonely article sitting here, better delete it". jp×g🗯️ 06:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Article massively reduced since nomination, only list fictional animals with their own Wikipedia articles that aren't listed in the other lists at Category:Lists of fictional animals by type. Dream Focus 17:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE and fails WP:NLIST TarnishedPathtalk 01:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Just merge it to lists of fictional animals, in its current state. Hyperbolick (talk) 10:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect or merge to lists of fictional animals per TompaDompa's changes. A few sources aren't a pass for multiple WP:INDISCRIMINATE lists, but one main list would probably meet WP:NLIST. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Mlaka Maliro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. Can't find sufficient sources to establish notability in any context. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep or Redirect to: Music_of_Malawi#Lucius_Banda,_Evison_Matafale_and_Mlaka_Maliro I found lots of GNG. WP:NMUSICIAN states that:
Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart
: in this case, subject had the album titled Dzanja Lalemba that was the bestseller 14 years ago countrywide. Subject is also the pioneer of Malawi Contemporary Music and one of the country's notable musician [2]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/.Has released two or more albums on a major record label
: subject has released 13 albums under the renowed and the first band in Malawi, the Zembani Band, owned by Lucius Banda [3]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/, [4]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-rolls-back-hands-of-time/ . I found this that talks about subject. I also found records in printed book, see here, and this in Dutch , this too, etc. To me this provides GNG that can be used to sustain the article per WP:NEXIST.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Non-notable NGO, probably does good work, but that's not our notability definition. This was declined a few times at AfC, then recreated directly in the main space. The sources are just press releases and therefore don't come even close to satisfying WP:ORG / WP:GNG, and BEFORE finds nothing better. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Article fails WP:GNG without significant coverage. I searched on Google and only the ice hockey player came up. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 10:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NOTMEMORIAL non-notable soldier, one of 8 killed in the same battle in Operation Bribie. Sources are largely name listings or about the battle rather than him Mztourist (talk) 10:12, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Entry in the Australian Dictionary of Biography ([5]) is sufficient for WP:ANYBIO#3. Curbon7 (talk) 10:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The preceding wording of WP:ANYBIO#3 states "People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards." Its a presumption not a rule. I read the entry and don't see anything notable there. I wonder if it lists all 500+ Australians killed in Vietnam. Mztourist (talk) 10:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well yes it is a presumption, but the ADB entry provides quite a bit of WP:SIGCOV (note that WP:THREE is a suggestion, and one very high quality source is sufficient). I'd say that is presumption met. Curbon7 (talk) 11:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree and I'd note the comment below, there is no good reason why he is even in the ADB. Mztourist (talk) 14:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well yes it is a presumption, but the ADB entry provides quite a bit of WP:SIGCOV (note that WP:THREE is a suggestion, and one very high quality source is sufficient). I'd say that is presumption met. Curbon7 (talk) 11:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The preceding wording of WP:ANYBIO#3 states "People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards." Its a presumption not a rule. I read the entry and don't see anything notable there. I wonder if it lists all 500+ Australians killed in Vietnam. Mztourist (talk) 10:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Normally I'd support the inclusion of anyone with an entry in a national dictionary of biography, but I'm really struggling to see why he was included. Just a soldier who was killed in action. What distinguishes him from the millions of others? Or even the many thousands of other Australian casualties of war? Is he intended to be representative of the ordinary men who were killed in Vietnam? -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Significant coverage not found Runmastery (talk) 09:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete This is just a CV (and not a very good one, at that), with zero evidence of notability. Fails WP:GNG / WP:BIO. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Nothing found about this person, the source used isn't acceptable. Very easy delete. Oaktree b (talk) 11:50, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: definitely fails notability criteria, no reliable sources. --BoraVoro (talk) 13:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I just blocked one of the editors trying to hijack this, so let’s finish the job. Daniel Case (talk) 14:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Cardholder Information Security Program (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Single ref in About section; Visa program established in 2001 and then shut down in 2004, receiving little WP:SIGCOV. Cursory Google search appears that it was revived later under PCI DSS, but nothing that would pass WP:GNG for this specific program. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 08:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
To Editor: Please don't delete this page. It's an important reference to a set of security guidelines that are still often referenced. Informing people that it's been superceeded by another security rule (PCI) is really valuable. Please do not remove it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.33.159.90 (talk) 09:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- List of Luxair destinations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP. Redundant.
WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company on a randomly-selected date (January 2023) of no significance. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services"
. It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations ever flown to, however briefly, are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO. That this is so is clearly indicated by the labelling of many services as "seasonal" (i.e., these were not actually destinations served in January 2023, but are anyway included).
WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources required by WP:ORGIND. Instead the article is almost entirely cited to Luxair's website, trade press (see WP:TRADES), and local news reports (which fail WP:AUD) about company announcements and press-conferences. See also WP:MILL and WP:ORGTRIV - reports of the opening and closing of business locations and services are just run-of-the-mill trivia.
The page is redundant because the development of Luxair's services, to the extent that the subject is encyclopaedic, is already very adequately summarised in Luxair#History. FOARP (talk) 07:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete not an encyclopaedic list. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:50, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Tom Hale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail Bio notability. IgelRM (talk) 07:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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No in-depth coverage in reliable sources. It does not meet WP:ORGDEPTH. MarioGom (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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No in depth cogerage in secondary reliable sources, probably too soon. According to the references, so far this is about a Facebook campaign and there's just not that much coverage, or reliable sources supporting this is an "emerging movement". MarioGom (talk) 14:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSONG. Can be redirected to Yo Yo Honey Singh. Charliehdb (talk) 13:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSONG. Can be redirected to Yo Yo Honey Singh. Charliehdb (talk) 13:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: "
the highest grossing Punjabi album of all time
" sounds like a claim to notability, but is unfortunately sourced to a listicle that just doesn't have the ring of rigour to it. If there's alternative sources for that claim, I'd be tempted to say keep on that basis. -- D'n'B-t -- 13:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSONG. Can be redirected to Yo Yo Honey Singh. Charliehdb (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails GNG and CREATIVE. Only one RS in references, BEFORE has no further RS available. StartGrammarTime (talk) 06:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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No evidence this radio station passes WP:NCORP. Sources are unreliable or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS; WP:BEFORE search turns up no WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - Agree with the nom that none of the references in the article pass WP:NORG/WP:ORGIND. The best is the Sun Star reference but that is still just an interview. Nothing in my WP:BEFORE either. FOARP (talk) 07:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources 2 and 5 talks about part of the station's history and programming. Source 3, 6 and 7 talk about part of its programming. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:GNG with the reliable sources indicated (except Source 4, which is just a blog). ASTIG😎🙃 13:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Source 2 is a WP:SELFPUBLISHED blog. Source 3 is a promo for a music event that has a single WP:TRIVIALMENTION of a former DJ for the station. Source 5 is a profile of a former DJ that has a single passing mention of the station. Source 6 is likewise a single passing mention. Source 7 is WP:PROMO for an event the station is taking part in, not independent coverage. In sum, not a single source qualifies for WP:GNG. Furthermore, the stricter WP:NCORP is the test the applies here, not GNG. [[WP Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Karel Průša (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable sportsperson without notable sporting achievements. Sources refer to sports results except for one, which is an interview with the person concerned. Searching the internet for "Karel Průša" shows other people with the same name. Same case as the recently nominated Bedřich Slaný. FromCzech (talk) 06:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Clearly notable because he competed in the final of the Speedway World Cup, the sport's pinnacle. Pyeongchang (talk) 08:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Pyeongchang (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
- The sport's pinnacle are the Olympic Games and athletes do not meet the condition of notability just by participating in them. If you say 'keep' you have to objectively demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. FromCzech (talk) 09:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: The Olympic Games are not the sports pinnacle, there is no speedway at the Olympic Games as is the case for numerous other sports. For information the pinnacle of speedway is the World Individual championships (now called the Grand Prix) and the World Cup. I have since added additional references from books and Newspaper Archive. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for that he was one of the title clinching finalist of a world championship event. WP:ATD will be to draftify for expansion. I agree with Pyeongchang's statement that it is the pinnacle of speedway. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify. Competing or even winning at the pinnacle of a sport, whether Grand Prix or Olympics, is not a valid inclusion criterion. SPORTCRIT requires GNG be met and for a GNG-contributing source to be cited in the article. If the "Speedway A-Z" source is not SPS then that would probably satisfy SPORTCRIT, but multiple sources are needed for GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 03:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep meet WP:NSPORT He has notable achievements in speedway racing, including a silver medal in the Czechoslovak Individual Championship and participation in the 1962 Speedway World Team Cup. Yakov-kobi (talk) 09:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify - basically per JoelleJay. We've rejected the idea of automatic notability in WP:NSPORTS2022, and the assertion that this person is notable simply for having competed in the Speedway World Cup is basically that. Similarly a silver medal in a national-level tournament, in a minor sport and relatively small competitive environment, should also not be an automatic pass for notability. These criteria were only ever intended as an indication that WP:GNG was likely passed - if doubt is cast on GNG being passed we still need to find sources, and none have been found so far. Delete can also work but it appears that some people are willing to put in the work to get this over the line though to be honest I don't see that happening as likely. FOARP (talk) 08:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Bedřich Slaný (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable sportsperson without notable sporting achievements. Sources only refer to passing mentions and sports results. Searching the internet for "Bedřich Slaný" shows other people with the same name. FromCzech (talk) 05:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: The Czech version cs:Bedřich Slaný of the article says (without a reference) that he died on 11 October 1980. Perhaps a news article about him or an obituary in a reliable source was published shortly after his death. Someone with access to Czechoslovak news media from 1980 might want to search for references from October 1980. The Wikipedia Library would also be worth searching. If you find one or more useful references, please add them to the Czech version cs:Bedřich Slaný as well., Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Clearly notable because he competed in the final of the Speedway World Cup, the sport's pinnacle. Pyeongchang (talk) 08:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Pyeongchang (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
- The sport's pinnacle are the Olympic Games and athletes do not meet the condition of notability just by participating in them. If you say 'keep' you have to objectively demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. FromCzech (talk) 09:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: The Olympic Games are not the sports pinnacle, there is no speedway at the Olympic Games as is the case for numerous other sports. For information the pinnacle of speedway is the World Individual championships (now called the Grand Prix) and the World Cup. I have since added additional references from books and Newspaper Archive. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Of course, I meant in general that if for Olympic sports the participation of an athlete in the Olympics is not a criterion of notability, the participation of a speedway racer in the Speedway World Cup is also not a criterion of notability. The sources you have added here and elsewhere do not demonstrate notability according to Wikipedia criteria.Redirect to 1962 Speedway World Team Cup may be an alternative to deletion. FromCzech (talk) 09:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect, we do not have sources demonstrating GNG is met, only passing mentions. JoelleJay (talk) 23:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep for that he was one of the title clinching finalist of a world championship event. WP:ATD will be to draftify for expansion. I agree with Pyeongchang's statement that it is the pinnacle of speedway. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a valid notability criterion. NSPORT requires GNG be met. JoelleJay (talk) 03:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- "title clinching finalist of a world championship event" does not appear in WP:NMOTORSPORT as an accomplishment which leads to a presumption of notability. 5225C (talk • contributions) 03:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete It lacks independent coverage in reliable sources beyond brief mentions in secondary sources. It fails to establish notability according to WP:N. Yakov-kobi (talk) 12:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- He's mentioned a number of times on Hungarian newspaper archive Arcanum – after he died an international race was named in his honor: "Druhý ročník Memoriálu Bedřicha Slaného je dalším významným mezinárodním závodem" [The second year of the Bedřich Slaného Memorial is another important international race]. The fact that an international race of some importance was named in his honor shows significance. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 02:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Refresher (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No mentions with a Google search and searches on legal glossary websites TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Clearly sourced. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: A quick web search shows that this is a genuine term term [6] [7], it is used by law firms to describe their fee structure, [8] [9] [10] and is recognised by the courts [11]. But none of that takes this article beyond a DICDEF and the article ought to go for that reason. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Rolandas Jasevičius (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. PROD was contested but unable to locate independent significant coverage of this individual. C679 06:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Seems to have been well-known in Lithuania, which Lithuanian media did you search in your WP:BEFORE? I found the basics in an Lithuanian Sports Encyclopedia, coverage of his European bronze in 2004 (career highlight = not WP:ROUTINE) and WP:SUSTAINED coverage of an assault later in 2004 that halted his career. Geschichte (talk) 07:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Jon Radoff (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail WP:NBIO - while it does have a piece of significant coverage, the InfoWorld article, the others are just announcements and primary source interviews without substantive discussion. It does not pass WP:NARTIST either due to the fact he was just a co-developer or director of most games he made. When the article was first made it also failed NBIO and does not seem to have remedied that situation. There are a lot of minor mentions, but a lack of SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, still fails the
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
as most of them are primary and just trivial Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: ComputerHope database entry. This appears to be a follow up from Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Beamable, note that gamerDNA, founded by Radoff, also has an article.. IgelRM (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- When you add this Ars Technica article, combined with PC Gamer and Boston Globe articles, I do think GuildCafe/GamerDNA passes WP:NCORP, so I will not be nominating it for deletion. Though I can't say the same for its creator yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- But the Ars article heavily quotes Radoff, so I think WP:ATD would be feasible again. Not going by guidelines briefly, GamerDNA appeared to exist from 2006 to 2011(?), while Radoff had a career from 1992 to now. IgelRM (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- When you add this Ars Technica article, combined with PC Gamer and Boston Globe articles, I do think GuildCafe/GamerDNA passes WP:NCORP, so I will not be nominating it for deletion. Though I can't say the same for its creator yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Match fixing in Romanian football (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article appears to be nothing but conjecture. My first thought was to remove the unsourced information, but there would be nothing left. I found one article on researchgate but it still wouldn't meet the basic guidelines. C679 05:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep It certainly needs work on, plausible topic with a paper written on the fact, [12], secondary source on the paper [13] Per BBC Sounds Chaos in Romania and Dutch Match-Fixing. There are more sources online to digest. Govvy (talk) 10:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, WP:NORG. All sources from it's own website. Cabrils (talk) 04:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Markku Helminen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources supplied. A search in google news only comes up with third party sources of a namesake. LibStar (talk) 04:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comments: LibStar: I'm no expert on speedway, so there might be something I'm missing, but could you explain your assessment that all the sources here are primary ones? A book like Who's Who of World Speedway and so on. /Julle (talk) 07:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There's bunch of brief mentions in older Finnish newspapers (accessed via National Archives of Finland's digital archive):
- Helsingin Sanomat, 9 May 1975 - mentioned a few times in standard post-event coverage together with other participants.
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 31 May 1976 - same, a few passing mentions
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 22 January 1978 - elected as the chair of the Salpausselkä Motor Club, given some awards. Very short piece.
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 30 August 1976 - event coverage, wins bronze in Turku.
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 19 September 1974 - briefly mentioned as the "best driver in the series".
- I didn't survey all the hits, but the best appears to be a profile/interview in Etelä-Suomen Sanomat on 1 September 1977 (link, requires a researcher account), a bit more than a quarter of a (broadsheet) page in size. Interestingly, it also features a (very cropped) image of an English language news story titled "Markku provides bright spot" by Ken Gaunt, apparently from either Speedway Mail or Leicester Mercury, both of which we are told have featured him.
- Based on the coverage I have access to, I'm personally rather ambivalent. That said, if someone can actually find the English language coverage mentioned in the Finnish papers and verify they are of reasonable depth, I suspect this would lean towards keep for me. -Ljleppan (talk) 09:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. With the additional Finnish sources and the lack of explaination as to why Who's Who of World Speedway would count a as a primary source, I'm leaning towards keep. /Julle (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Edward Henry Burke Cooper (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All referencing appears to be from Oxford, UK-specific remembrance group publications. Cooper served honorably, and died, for an incredibly honorable cause but Wikipedia is not a memorial. GPL93 (talk) 04:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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The page is currently 2 sentences long, and doesn't meet WP:NOTABLE. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 04:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of wildfires#Canada and the United States. per WP:NOTNEWS, it has no WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Wildfires are common natural disasters, these ones were 8 years ago, no one bothered to write about when it might have been a bit relevant. No harm be deleting this. WP:NOTNEWS. – sgeureka t•c 11:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Michele Paco Castagna (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. A search in google news yielded nothing. LibStar (talk) 03:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Keep three times Champion of Italy and has ridden in the highest possible league of speedway in Britain (equivalent to the football Premier league). Pyeongchang (talk) 10:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have added three more non Primary sources as suggested to the article. Pyeongchang (talk) 10:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- The interviews are primary and non-independent, and the press release is a namedrop. All of them are very far from SIGCOV. JoelleJay (talk) 22:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. IRS SIGCOV entirely lacking. JoelleJay (talk) 22:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep as Pyeongchang pointed out. Being a double national champion, pass criteria 4 of (an overly biased towards circuit racing that is] WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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WP:NOTESSAY. Reads a lot like an essay, and doesn't fit the tone on Wikipedia. Attempting to rewrite this article would be more trouble than it's worth. While relatively well sourced, I'm not sure how such a narrow topic can pass GNG. OzzyOlly (talk) 04:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- List of ASEAN countries and subdivisions by minimum wage (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article seems to be entirely based on original research. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:NOTDATABASE. this falls under WP:NOTSTAT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Similar with page List of countries by minimum wage and List of first-level administrative divisions by GRDP, they also contain original research. if this page was delete, kindly to delete those page too. Warm Regards. Applaused (talk) 21:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:CRUFTCRUFT, and WP:SIMPLYLINKINGTOAPOLICYPAGEDOESNOTCONSTITUTEANARGUMENTTHATSOMETHINGFAILSTOCOMPLYWITHTHEPOLICY. jp×g🗯️ 06:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Similar with page List of countries by minimum wage and List of first-level administrative divisions by GRDP, they also contain original research. if this page was delete, kindly to delete those page too. Warm Regards. Applaused (talk) 11:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also this page will continue to expand to provinces, states, etc for teh future. Already have the source. Applaused (talk) 11:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Miminity, mixing countries and "subdivisions" seems a bit odd, and the fact that all it lists are cities. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- As per my last message, this page will continue to expand, to provinces, states, etc. still in progress, list can be waiting, or you kindly can contribute thx. Applaused (talk) 20:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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Unsourced article about a community I can find next to nothing on. -Samoht27 (talk) 04:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep — found thr USGS Entry and an article on the TSHA. The TSHA also cites History of Falls County, Texas and Westerm Falls County, Texas. Roasted (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- And just edited to include all of those sources. Roasted (talk) 04:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep — found thr USGS Entry and an article on the TSHA. The TSHA also cites History of Falls County, Texas and Westerm Falls County, Texas. Roasted (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSONG on all counts: Did not chart, did not win any awards, and is unlikely to grow beyond stub status. This can be adequately covered in a few sentences at Tenacious D#Spicy Meatball Tour, Trump comment and hiatus (2023–present). 162 etc. (talk) 04:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Biography of an Indian civil servant fails WP:NPOL, WP:GNG, WP:NBIO. There is no WP:SIGCOV of the individual in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Sourcing is limited to WP:ROUTINE coverage and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS that refer to him in the context of his former role while covering other subjects. (For example, the awards he is purported to have received were granted to the Jammu and Kashmir government and accepted by Mehta on its behalf.) There is no other WP:SIGCOV in sources considered reliable under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. (A note on page history: Following draftification during new page review, this page was returned to mainspace with no meaningful changes by a COI SPA editor.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:18, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Agree with AFD, lack of SIGCOV.Naraht (talk) 03:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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A list of characters from media associated with the Bernice Summerfield character. A brief BEFORE yields very little hits for anything related to the supporting cast, and the list itself fails LISTN and Verifiability, as Summerfield is herself the only character with an article and the rest of the article is not cited. I'm admittedly uncertain what to do with the article's (Very brief and short) collection of contents, as I am not familiar with how recurring or important these characters are to the narrative, but a potential AtD could be a merge to Bernice Summerfield (Where there is a similar characters list for audio characters) or a straight up deletion, depending on what is decided. Either way, this list seems dedicated to a rather irrelevant and small subgroup of characters, of which a separate list does not seem justifiable. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge one/two lines per character to a new Bernice Summerfield#Characters section. I agree this doesn't need a separate article/list, but a little more context for the audio character table would be nice. – sgeureka t•c 08:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- The Oppression Remedy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Found no sigcov on this book. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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No sigcov anywhere. Redirect to author Royston Ellis? PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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