User talk:TGilmour
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GAN nominations
[edit]Hi, I noticed that you have nominated two articles at WP:GAN. I have corrected the subtopics as you nominate Queen (band) under Art and architecture and Martin Luther under Music! I also note that you appear to have only been contributing to Wikipedia for a day. You do realise that you will be expected to to respond to reviewer comments and that you should have checked that all the good article criteria have been met. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I have made some preliminary comments and put the GA assessment on hold. It will be kept open for a week to give you time to address the initial points. Tim riley (talk) 19:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
American English on Martin Luther
[edit]Please explain on the talk page why you think Martin Luther should be written in American English. Is this how the page was originally written and it changed over time? Or is this just your preference? Also, I reverted your last spelling changes--for instance, the past tense of "devise" is "devised" is both UK and American English. Some of the changes may be okay, but first I would like the clarification about why you think the page should be Am. spelling. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
May 2011
[edit] Welcome and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Adolf Hitler worked, and it has been reverted or removed. However, if you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox instead. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. - Happysailor (Talk) 18:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
GANs
[edit]I am notifying you that I quick-failed four of you GA nomination: Alexander the Great, Posthumous fame of El Greco, The Rolling Stones and Art of El Greco. The main problem here is that you have never edited the article, and there is no evidence you notified main authors. I assumed good faith with Queen (band), but nominated 4 articles you never maintained is excessive. If you want to re-nominate them, contact authors first. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:33, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi TGilmour, I reverted your edit to this list because although it's a FL, it's incomplete in its very nature. What I mean by that is that only items that are sourced are included in the list. In other words, there are many, many humans that have appeared on The Show, but if no source can be found for them, they weren't included in the list. Actually, many FLs have the template you removed; for example, List of 1920s jazz standards is a FL and has the same template for similar reasons. At any rate, thanks and hope you stick around. Christine (talk) 19:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, I got the point. TGilmour (talk) 19:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Airbus A330 FAC
[edit]Hi TGilmour, regarding your support at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Airbus A330/archive3, do you mind leaving an explanation or reason behind, so others won't discount your stance when the FAC closes? Thanks a heap Sp33dyphil Vote! 23:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, first - thanks for the support on The Sun Also Rises FAC. Regarding The Old Man and the Sea, the edits you've made are good. I'd encourage you to be WP:BOLD and go for it on that page. I'm a bit sick of Hemingway at the moment and was hoping for a wikibreak, so I can't promise any help. I would, however, be happy to give advice and look over your shoulder to watch what you're doing. There's the potential for a really great article with the back-story, and now that SAR is done, it can be used as an example. btw - in case you didn't know, just edit your user page to turn your name from a redlink to a bluelink. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 12:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, I don't have those books about Hemingway besides the novels, so I think I can't cope with that. It seems that you have lot of them. TGilmour (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
RS 100 Greatest Artists
[edit]Hi! Pink Floyd on the rolling Stone's 100 Greatest artists list! 46.35.206.137 (talk) 11:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. It seems that it was updated, because I remember that they were absent on that list. TGilmour (talk) 11:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, updated -- now Queen too on the list. It was a pretty big mistake, and now fix! 46.35.206.137 (talk) 12:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nice info. Waiting for updated list of the Greatest Guitarists. TGilmour (talk) 13:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Casino Royale
[edit]Couple of quick things. I have not been a "major contributor" to that article for years. I do not know what shape it is in. As for the section in question, it did not exist when the article was promoted. But, the solution for an unsourced, recently added section (it wasn't there last month) would be to remove it entirely and not to go to FARC. Unless you are seeing other issues with the article finding one problem is not really what FARC is designed for. So, if there are other issues then I would suggest putting them all on the talk page and seeing if they can be address. If not, then go to FARC. If it's just the video game section...then just remove it entirely per the policy on verifiability. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 17:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Deletion
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Talk:History of video game consoles (seventh generation). When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ (talk) 18:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- The page was streched and I just fixed it, nothing else. TGilmour (talk) 18:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hello again. Just FYI, since I'm almost certain it wasn't what you intended to do, but did delete a huge amount of the talk page, I'd say at least ¾ of it. I think your intention was just to remove the spaces at the beginning of some of the lines, but that's not all you actually did. As I said, it was probably an accident. Here is the diff: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHistory_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generation%29&action=historysubmit&diff=433069649&oldid=433069558
- Also, I couldn't help but notice your recent edits to Portal 2. Masem is right, VG Chartz is not considered to be a reliable source. If you take a look at their methodology page it should be fairly obvious why.
- Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Re: Checklinks
[edit]Hey, while I appreciate the work of tagging dead links, whatever your tool is it's also tagging dead refs that have already been archived, like in Halo 3[1]. Just an FYI. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:08, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done. TGilmour (talk) 20:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
De-linking intro's
[edit]Why are you de-linking the intro's of well established articles ? [2] [3] [4] []Mlpearc powwow 22:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- WP:OVERLINK TGilmour (talk) 22:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think you better go back over that policy before you go any further. Mlpearc powwow 22:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- TGilmour is correct on this one. Linking guitar, drums, rock music? Now really. Ceoil 00:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think you better go back over that policy before you go any further. Mlpearc powwow 22:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Bangladesh GAN
[edit]I see that you have nominated Bangladesh at WP:GAC. I note that you have not edited this article nor have you contacted the primary editors. It is usually bad form to nominate articles for GA or FA review that you have not significantly contributed to or at least discussed with the primary editors. There is no such thing as article ownership but there is a reason for having primary editors nominate articles. If reviewers have questions about the nuances of the article, about the meaning of phrases, about why a certain source was used or other details regarding the content, the best person(s) to answer these questions is/are the primary editor(s). It is also just a courtesy to involve the primary editors on decisions regarding the article. I see that someone has posted a comment about this topic already. I won't quick fail your nomination as I would welcome a discussion about this. If I don't hear from you in a few days I'll go ahead and quick fail it. H1nkles (talk) citius altius fortius 23:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi
You have requested another GOCE copyedit for the article:
"This article needs to be copy edited bu a good copy editor before it becomes FA"
First of all, is there a real need for a full copyedit when it was only looked at three weeks ago?
Secondly, was there some problem with the previous copyedit that prompted the emboldened insertion of the word good in the request.
Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 12:12, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I noticed that too, and was on the brink of responding to it on the request page when I changed my mind and came here. Now, from where I stand, there is nothing intrinsically wrong about asking for a copyedit after only three weeks. After all, they are trying to get it to FA status, which means a lot of work for all of us. But the way you phrased your request, TGilmour, did seem to me like a bit of a slight to Chaosdruid here. Bobnorwal (talk) 17:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes we want to promote it to FA so we need a pletohra of best copy editors for that. TGilmour (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Martin Luther
[edit]Hi TGilmour, I have reverted some of your edits to Martin Luther which hadn't already been reverted by other editors. This included restoring some of the wililinks that you removed from the lead such as German and German language. ("Overlinking" is hardly an excuse, given their importance and relevance to this subject - note that the intro to William Shakespeare also includes links to English and English language.)
I have also removed the rather poor reference you inserted in relation to Luther's presentation of his Ninety-Five Theses, which doesn't adequately support the quotation in the text. As this quotation seems controversial (in view of the prevailing myth, as the current text of the article would have it), it certainly needs to be better substantiated - so I have reinstated the "Citation needed" tag. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 06:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
[edit]Thank you, TGilmour, for your helpful edit to the article Everything Tastes Better with Bacon. Much appreciated. :) You may be interested in reading other related articles, in the "books" section of template {{Bacon}}. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Update
[edit]Thank you, TGilmour, for your suggestion on how to improve an article I nominated to FAC. I have changed the article to address your recommendation, and responded to you at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive1. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 20:44, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good work, I'll support now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TGilmour (talk • contribs)
- Can you explain a bit more what you mean? -- Cirt (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- About shortened footnotes? TGilmour (talk) 20:56, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- How is that different from what I just did. I am sorry but it just took a lot of effort to change everything to the exact template you linked to for formatting. I will change it, again, but I do not know exactly what you mean. -- Cirt (talk) 21:00, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I mean using this template: Template:Sfn TGilmour (talk) 21:03, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- How is that different from what I just did. I am sorry but it just took a lot of effort to change everything to the exact template you linked to for formatting. I will change it, again, but I do not know exactly what you mean. -- Cirt (talk) 21:00, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- About shortened footnotes? TGilmour (talk) 20:56, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Can you explain a bit more what you mean? -- Cirt (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Done. I used that template. Now it as {{sfn}} formatting. Can you revisit your position at the FAC subpage? -- Cirt (talk) 21:46, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Manual of style
[edit]Hello again. With regard to your recent edit of Portal 2 (which again Masem beat me to reverting), Wikipedia has a manual of style which covers various things such as which grammar and punctuation conventions to use, and in the case of "Sentence-ending … full stops [being] within quotation marks", that only applies in some circumstances. In this case, the full stop goes after the quotation mark since "The period['s] … coverage within the quotation is considered unnecessary", i.e. the quote simply forms part of the sentence and is shown in quotation marks only to show that it is written verbatim. For more info see: MOS:LQ.
Just out of interest,in the edit summary you mention "sentence-ending commas". As far as I am aware, there is no such thing in English, so if you could clarify what you mean that'd be grand.
Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Perceived. TGilmour (talk) 14:25, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the English FC Barcelona article on Wikipedia
Would you add the Copa Eva Duarte in the domestic honours section as it was the predecessor to the Supercopa de España and is a official trophy?
They have included that trophy on the English speaking Wikipedia article about Real Madrid. The editors need to do the same with FC Barcelonas!
The trophy was included in the article until recently where it disappeared? Why?
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peascolor51 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Query
[edit]May I ask you specifically what caused you to strike your support here? -- Cirt (talk) 06:08, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
- If it was about confusion of that one sentence, I copyedited it with that in mind: diff. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 06:11, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, it was because you, by yourself, made a request on copy edit. I still thin kthat it doesn't need it. Ponder on it. TGilmour (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you still feel the article in its current state merits support, then I'd appreciate it if you un-strike, and leave your support. Further copyediting from experienced editors will certainly not reduce the article in quality. Will you reconsider? -- Cirt (talk) 06:17, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, it was because you, by yourself, made a request on copy edit. I still thin kthat it doesn't need it. Ponder on it. TGilmour (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi
Just to let you know the copyedit is finished. I am sorry it took so long but I caught an eye infection and could not spend much time looking at the computer screen over the last week. There are some notes on the talk page which could do with being addressed though.
Good luck with the FA! Chaosdruid (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the copy edit! TGilmour (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Indian Camp edit conflicts
[edit]Hi, I appreciate your help, but twice now I've lost all my edits, which makes me a bit cranky. I'd like to try a third time, so give me a chance to get through the page, okay. I have the sources at hand. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 23:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, I'll correct one more thing and I'm done. TGilmour (talk) 23:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please don't. It's best to let me do this. I don't see well and have lost 45 minutes of work. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- If there's an edit conflict, use your browser's Back button (If you are using Firefox) and you won't lose your work. TGilmour (talk) 00:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please don't. It's best to let me do this. I don't see well and have lost 45 minutes of work. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- That only works for small edits. It doesn't work when you go through entire article from top to bottom to fix and then have an edit conflict. At that point you have to give up all your work - which has happened to me twice now. Anyway, thanks for the help, I do appreciate it, just got a little frustrated is all. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:07, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- If I were you, I would be very frustarated and sorry for it. And what about changing the article's first sentence to this? ""Indian Camp" is a short story written by an American Nobel Prize–winning author Ernest Hemingway."
- That only works for small edits. It doesn't work when you go through entire article from top to bottom to fix and then have an edit conflict. At that point you have to give up all your work - which has happened to me twice now. Anyway, thanks for the help, I do appreciate it, just got a little frustrated is all. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:07, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Getting to responding to that. One thing at a time. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:15, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- By the way, are you going to improve Hemingway's other articles to FAC? TGilmour (talk) 00:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm taking a break from Hemingway for a while. It's a long term project. One or two a year. But I get sick of it and need to work on other things. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe one more article and then? For example, A Farewell to Arms, For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Old Man and the Sea. These articles (Hemingway's prominent works) would really benefit from your work. TGilmour (talk) 00:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll get to them, but it's a huge amount of work and it's better when I'm fresh. I'm not fresh at the moment. Across the River and Into the Trees is close, but the important books are much harder. The biography took nine months to write; I started SAR more than a year ago and worked on it very hard since about January, so I want a break now. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- So you will get Across the River and into the Trees to FA and then take a break? That sounds good and when will you return? Don't forget that we are talking about Hemingway, one of the greatest wirters of all time and you're doing an immense job. TGilmour (talk) 00:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I sort of do them as I have the urge. SAR sat for a long time and suddenly one day I decided to work on it. But it's really better when I'm away from Hemingway for a while, otherwise my work isn't as good. Logically the next one to do would be A Farewell to Arms and then For Whom the Bell Tolls. I think I like For Whom the Bell Tolls better, but both are hard because so much background material has to be added. I will do them, but slowly. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- A Farewell to Arms, my favorite Hemingway novel. Would love to see as FA. TGilmour (talk) 00:53, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I sort of do them as I have the urge. SAR sat for a long time and suddenly one day I decided to work on it. But it's really better when I'm away from Hemingway for a while, otherwise my work isn't as good. Logically the next one to do would be A Farewell to Arms and then For Whom the Bell Tolls. I think I like For Whom the Bell Tolls better, but both are hard because so much background material has to be added. I will do them, but slowly. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- So you will get Across the River and into the Trees to FA and then take a break? That sounds good and when will you return? Don't forget that we are talking about Hemingway, one of the greatest wirters of all time and you're doing an immense job. TGilmour (talk) 00:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll get to them, but it's a huge amount of work and it's better when I'm fresh. I'm not fresh at the moment. Across the River and Into the Trees is close, but the important books are much harder. The biography took nine months to write; I started SAR more than a year ago and worked on it very hard since about January, so I want a break now. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe one more article and then? For example, A Farewell to Arms, For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Old Man and the Sea. These articles (Hemingway's prominent works) would really benefit from your work. TGilmour (talk) 00:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm taking a break from Hemingway for a while. It's a long term project. One or two a year. But I get sick of it and need to work on other things. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- By the way, are you going to improve Hemingway's other articles to FAC? TGilmour (talk) 00:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Getting to responding to that. One thing at a time. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:15, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Edit Summeries
[edit]Hello TGilmour, I am here in hopes to convince you to start using edit summries, for myself I'm finding you edit a lot of pages I watch and for all editors it just makes everything easier, while looking through our watchlist and see a change to a page we watch without an edit summary then it's (at least with me) mandatory to check the diff, if there's an edit summary noteing the nature of the edit then it might not need to be checked. It's just eiser on everyone involved and if you have ambitions for adminship one's edit summary history is scrutinized. Just something to think about, Thanx. Mlpearc Public (talk) 03:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
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Firefox 5
[edit]Why do you keep deleting the Deletion template from Firefox 5? As you can see at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Firefox 7, Firefox 5 and 6 are nominated for deletion too. I wouldn't like to cause an edit war, so I talked to you. --kongr43gpenTalk 07:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
June 2011
[edit] Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Martin Luther. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Cognate247 (talk) 12:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I have finished copy editing Queen (band), which you placed on this page about a week ago. After going through the article, I'm interested in helping you get the article ready for another GAN. The first thing we're going to do is take care of everything mentioned in the article's first GAN. Then, we're going to get the article peer reviewed, and once we take care of the issues addressed there, we'll try another GAN. Sound good? The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 18:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Huge thanks from me, one of these days I'll make a request on the peer review. TGilmour (talk) 19:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
MIT
[edit]No, I don't plan on nominating the MIT article for FAC. At the time I wrote that peer review, there were a few users who were talking about nominating it for FAC, but I felt that it needed some serious work before it was ready for that. If you check the Peer review, not a single person responded to any of my suggestions, so I let it drop. If you want to work on that article, I'd suggest you try to work through those peer review suggestions. Good luck! --GrapedApe (talk) 11:45, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's an amount immense work. Could you start and then I'd help. TGilmour (talk) 12:06, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
The Dark Side of the Moon
[edit]Due to your recent activity editing The Dark Side of the Moon, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking just a minute to add your opinion to the discussion at Talk:The Dark Side of the Moon#Why must an unreleased EMI remaster be mentioned?. Thank you, Dismas|(talk) 01:26, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
GOCE requests list
[edit]Hi
I am sorry to have to inform you that we try and limit the number of articles on the requests list to a maximum of three per editor. At the moment you have five GOCE requests for copyediting. Please can you try and trim this down by removing the last one which can be replaced once you only have two left on the list.
I appreciate that it may be a problem, but we are limited in how many we can look at. I also appreciate that there may be a real need for the articles to be tidied up, especially if they are due for GA or FA nomination. Many of the GAs that are proposed for FA are substantial articles which compounds the problem.
Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 21:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I took off one request. TGilmour (talk) 22:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Radiohead are on of my fav. bands though so I hope we can get it up again pretty soon :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 22:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, you took off the Raptor one ... one of my fav. aircraft lol, same as before then - I hope we can ... :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 22:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- It is my favorite aircraft, too... But I'll get it back as soon as the other copy edits are finished. TGilmour (talk) 23:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, you took off the Raptor one ... one of my fav. aircraft lol, same as before then - I hope we can ... :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 22:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Radiohead are on of my fav. bands though so I hope we can get it up again pretty soon :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 22:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
OK Computer
[edit]Hey, I saw that you nominated OK Computer to FAC. I am one of the primary contributors to the article, and if I remember correctly I'm responsible for most of the writing in the article. I've been inactive for a long time, but I'd be more than happy to come out of retirement to help with the article. Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 19:20, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, nice to see such user. It has been withdrawed, can you skim the article? TGilmour (talk) 02:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll be reviewing it thoroughly. I have a copy of Welcome to the Machine but not Exit Music, which I had loaned out from a library. Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have Exit Music at my library. I believe I cited pretty much everything useful out of it, but I can double-check. However, I am pretty busy these days, so you guys might have to pester me repeatedly for help if I don't answer right away. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK, when you're free double-check it. Unfortunately, our libraries don't have sufficient resources (We don't even have ooks about The Beatles) TGilmour (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it will be necessary to use the 33 1/3 book. It's poorly reviewed on Amazon and other sites because it contains the author's personal interpretation (i.e. ramblings) about the album moreso than any useful information. A portion of the book is available for preview on Google Books (check it out), and while passing bits of information could maybe be useful for articles about individual songs on the album, it's virtually useless as a source of info about the album as a whole. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 02:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK, when you're free double-check it. Unfortunately, our libraries don't have sufficient resources (We don't even have ooks about The Beatles) TGilmour (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have Exit Music at my library. I believe I cited pretty much everything useful out of it, but I can double-check. However, I am pretty busy these days, so you guys might have to pester me repeatedly for help if I don't answer right away. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll be reviewing it thoroughly. I have a copy of Welcome to the Machine but not Exit Music, which I had loaned out from a library. Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Lead
[edit]Hi TGilmour, I've noticed you've been commenting at a lot of FACs that there should be no citations in the lead. That isn't strictly true: per WP:LEADCITE, uncontroversial material in the lead need not be cited, and a lower citation density is required than in the article body, but "there is not, however, an exception to citation requirements specific to leads. The necessity for citations in a lead should be determined on a case-by-case basis". In other words, citations in the lead can be perfectly appropriate. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please do not continue to make this incorrect statement at FAC; I have had to correct it a number of times on multiple FACs. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil
[edit]Thank you for your edits in Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil. They were really helpful. Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 11:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, just wanted to swing by to let you know I reverted some edits at SAR. The columns are browser specific and don't show up on IE7 & go strange on other browsers, so it's best to leave as is. I'm expecting a fair amount of activity when it goes on the main page, and would prefer to leave static until then, if you don't mind. Also at this point the page belongs to main page guys, so let them edit - they know what they're doing. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK, see your talk page, please. TGilmour (talk) 16:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Can you please put it back to the version I just put in? Just undo yourself. I need to do some things so I can be back tonight to tend this. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry about sounding rude earlier - I was only here for a few moments & busy elsewhere. Just so you know, I'm expecting all the Hemingway pages to get a lot of activity in the next 2 days. Except for overturning vandalism, or obvious errors, I'm not too worried about allowing people to edit when it's on the main page. Anything we don't like can be changed in a few days. If you're interested, all the other page need tidying and I'm really busy today, so if you're interested in picking at some of those, I'd be really grateful. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 18:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Which pages are you talking about? ("If you're interested, all the other page need tidying") TGilmour (talk) 18:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry about sounding rude earlier - I was only here for a few moments & busy elsewhere. Just so you know, I'm expecting all the Hemingway pages to get a lot of activity in the next 2 days. Except for overturning vandalism, or obvious errors, I'm not too worried about allowing people to edit when it's on the main page. Anything we don't like can be changed in a few days. If you're interested, all the other page need tidying and I'm really busy today, so if you're interested in picking at some of those, I'd be really grateful. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 18:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Some of his other articles. Just go to any Hemingway article, scroll to the template at the bottom and start clicking at pages to see if they're terribly messy, tagged, whatever. Many I don't have watched and have no idea what kind of shape they're in. You might want to start with the major novels first. It's not really a big deal, I'm about to start the same myself, but if you have some time, the help would be great. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think, I can't help because I don't have sources, but I'll help if you start. TGilmour (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Some of his other articles. Just go to any Hemingway article, scroll to the template at the bottom and start clicking at pages to see if they're terribly messy, tagged, whatever. Many I don't have watched and have no idea what kind of shape they're in. You might want to start with the major novels first. It's not really a big deal, I'm about to start the same myself, but if you have some time, the help would be great. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Give me a little time, am tying up some loose ends. Then you can watch my edits and see what I do. I won't be adding sources, just tidying a bit, if necessary. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:19, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I'll be spying. TGilmour (talk) 19:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Give me a little time, am tying up some loose ends. Then you can watch my edits and see what I do. I won't be adding sources, just tidying a bit, if necessary. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 19:19, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Cite formats
[edit]Please don't change the cite formats on articles - especially on FA articles. People have them the way they have them for a reason. There's work you could help with on the Hemingway pages if you'd like, but changing the parameters on The Red Badge of Courage is not necessary and can be considered disruptive. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Although, I don't mind what you do to any of the un-reviewed Hemingway articles. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- You know, major part of the articles on Wikipedia use cite web template so I don't see why is shouldn't be used in that article, which does have only three external links. TGilmour (talk) 21:38, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- See WP:CITEHOW-- please don't change citation style without gaining consensus. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- TGilmour, as the primary editor of Red Badge, I agree with both Truthkeeper and SandyGeorgia. In fact, I had reverted your citation formatting and then come here to your talk page to let you know my reasoning, only to find this discussion already underway. It's important that you take consensus into account, as well as the preference of those who have previously taken the time to build the article. Just because the article in question only has three EL-citations doesn't mean that a clunky and largely superfluous citation template needs to be implemented. It isn't required, nor does it match the current style already in place. While editing articles -- especially those of high quality) -- you should make an effort to match the current citation style used, rather than attempt to change it without discussion. Thanks, María (habla conmigo) 01:05, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
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I have fixed all issues you left I do believe.--WillC 07:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Done--WillC 09:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did the edit, don't know what happened. Must have not saved it or the server didn't register I changed anything. Odd, my bad.--WillC 09:50, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
The English FC Barcelona thread on Wikipedia
[edit]Hello TGilmour.
I would like to ask whether you would be able to read the dicussion that can be seen on the English FC Barcelona thread on Wikipedia and make the requested additions as you are one of the regular editors and nobody has answered the requets yet, so that is the reason to why I am writing to you.
Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suitcivil133 (talk • contribs) 13:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
July 2011
[edit] Welcome and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Martin Luther worked, and it has been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox instead. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Also, the preview button is your friend. This will help avoid mistakes such as typographical errors in templates, etc. Please also provide an edit summary, which helps other editors understand your true intentions with your edits. Thanks! Cognate247 (talk) 14:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
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Reference style changes
[edit]Please familiarize yourself with WP:CITEVAR and stop changing acceptable, consistent citation styles. It's useless at best and disruptive at worst. This edit of yours, for example, only seemed to remove spaces that have no effect on the rendering of the page. Changing the content of another editor's message, as you did here, is also not done (WP:TPO). Ucucha 23:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Tacking on to what Ucucha has said, this, this, and this, are not necessary. It took hours of volunteer time getting them right, and now unnecessary time is being spent to fix them over and over. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 23:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
TGilmour, you are looking like either a Hadrianos or ItsLassieTime sock-- please stop disrupting Wikipedia and FAC. User:SandyGeorgia/sandbox#Real_Madrid SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) On a different subject, I just mentioned you at User talk:SandyGeorgia#Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Portal 2/archive2. You have repeatedly started FACs and FLCs for articles that were not ready for FAC/FLC, where you were not the primary contributor, and where the primary contributor did not think the article was ready. That should stop; you should only start an FAC/FLC when all those involved in writing the article are OK with it. FAC is disrupted when many articles that are not ready get nominated. Ucucha 23:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
It is clear from the manner of your editing that you are a reincarnation of the blocked user Taro-Gabunia (talk · contribs); accordingly, I've blocked this account indefinitely.
If you want to return to editing, you should wait for a while (at least several months) and then request an unblock on this page or the talk page of one of your earlier accounts, making it clear that you are not going to repeat the behavior that led to your blocks. Ucucha 00:10, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- I was blocked mistakenly. Can you prove it? TGilmour (talk) 00:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- It is quite clear from the contributions that you are the same person as Taro-Gabunia (talk · contribs), TGabunia (talk · contribs), Taro James (talk · contribs), and TaroG... (talk · contribs). If you want another administrator to review this block, see WP:GAB for instructions. Ucucha 00:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Unblock
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TGilmour (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was blocked mistakenly. You can check IP adresses, too. A terrible rebuttal by the way.
Decline reason:
Oh, you want me to check your IP address? Ok, then, it is now Confirmed by checkuser that you are also using User:TaroG... and User:Taro James. Ever heard of Pleading the Fifth? Anyway, I'm off to see what other socks you have lying around... Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
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TGilmour (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
The reason why I was blocked in previous months was that I didn't know how to use Wikipedia and now I know it, hence you no longer have a sufficient reason to block me
Decline reason:
On the contrary, you seem to have continued the same disruptive behavior that lead to multiple previous blocks; never mind that you're running multiple socks to avoid that original block. Kuru (talk) 16:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
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TGilmour (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
The only thing I did wrong was that I changed citation styles in the articles. Then I read WP:CITEHOW and understood.
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Checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts. Further unblock requests must be made from original account. --jpgordon::==( o ) 06:57, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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TGilmour (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Oh, I forgot the password :( Moreover, I've made more edits with this account and it is less infamous than that one (I used it until I learned how to use Wikipedia)
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Sorry, but with your history of sockpuppetry, unblocking really isn't an option at this time. You may wish to try our standard offer in the future, but additional unblock requests at this time may lead to the removal of your ability to edit this page. —DoRD (talk) 14:56, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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India FAR
[edit]Hi there, The history section expansion of India in response to FAR comments is now complete. All remaining issues have been addressed. Please weigh in at FARC. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Martin Luther
[edit]A review of a good article you nominated has been requested here. You may wish to comment on the reassessment.AIRcorn (talk) 02:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Use American English
[edit]Template:Use American English has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)