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Merry Christmas!
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Hello Pbsouthwood: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor Talk 07:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message
Wishing you an amazing 2019. --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- I've swapped the template as I just realized how many identical ones you had... --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.6
Newsletter Nr 6, 2018-12-25, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
![]() Participation: This is the sixth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Wikipedia:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Now 100 supportersAt 3 December 2018, the list of users who support the potential Wikimedia genealogy project, reached 100! A demo wiki is up and running!You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records. And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2019!
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Merry Christmas and happy 2019!
Merry Christmas and happy new year! I was happy to see you have a successful RfA during 2018. I hope you will edit more happily in 2019 Hhkohh (talk) 12:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Hhkohh, Your good wishes are appreciated and reciprocated. 2018 was a productive year for me on Wikipedia by edit count, and even by getting useful stuff done, so quite happy with the results. If 2019 is as good I will have reason to be happy with it too. I wish you a productive and satisfying 2019 on Wikipedia too. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:33, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #024, 26 Dec 2018
Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...
Portals status
We now have 4,620 portals.
And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...
Can we make it?
The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.
( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
or
{{subst:bpsp}}
)
Evad is back!
After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.
Be sure to welcome him back.
Improved cropping is coming to Portal image banner
User:FR30799386 is working on making {{Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.
Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.
Upgrade of flagship portals is underway
Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).
So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.
Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.
Spotting missing portals that are redirects
In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.
Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.
The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.
Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.
To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.
What's new in portal space?
Keep 'em coming!
And I'll see you next issue.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:11, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #025, 30 Dec 2018
We can now crop the tops of pics to make banners
Before, we could only cut off the bottom of pics.
User:FR30799386 has pulled it off, and made the upgrade to {{Portal image banner}}...
So, this:
Becomes this:
Here's the code for the above banner:
{{Portal image banner|File:American Falls from Canadian side in winter.jpg | [[Niagara falls]], from the Canadian side |maxheight=175px |overflow=Hidden|croptop=10}}
To see it employed in a portal, check out Portal:Niagara Falls.
About that end of the year goal...
We were racing against time to create 5,000 portals by the end of the year (just for the heck of it).
We made it. We've passed the 5,000 portals mark, with time to spare!
And the 5,000th portal is Portal:Major League Baseball, by Happypillsjr.
Congratulations!
What's next?
The 10,000th portal mark. But...
...there is plenty else to do in addition to building new portals:
- The new portals need to be linked to from the encyclopedia.
- On those portals about subjects that are not typically capitalized, the search parameters need to be refined/expanded, to maximize the chances of Did you know and In the news items being found and displayed.
- A Recognized content section needs to be added to each portal that has a corresponding WikiProject.
- Addition of a category on those portals that lack a subject category.
- Implement the portal category system, adding the appropriate categories to each portal.
- Upgrade, and complete (as per the tasks enumerated above), the old-style portals that are not regularly maintained, which have not been converted yet (about 1,100 of them).
- Find and fix the remaining bugs in the underlying lua modules.
- Build portal tools (scripts) to assist in the creation, development, and maintenance of portals.
- Build a script to help build navbox footer templates, via the harvesting of categories, amongst other methods.
- Update the portal building instructions.
- Update the portal guideline.
- Refine the programming of the portals to reduce their load time.
- Design and develop the next generation of portals and portal components.
And whatever else you can dream up.
But most of all, have a...
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Pbsouthwood, thank you for your contributions to the Portals Project, and have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 12:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Short description
Hi Rbsouthwood, Greetings to you. I just want to know the tag {{short description|xxx xxx}}
and {{SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
is the same thing and it will transport the information to Wikidata. I am adding short description to articles and would like to know which one is the correct format. Thanks for the advice in advance. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi CASSIOPEIA, I am delighted to hear that you will be doing this, there is enough work for all of us. Please use
{{short description|xxx xxx}}
as it adds useful maintenance categories. I am busy converting all the bare magic word versions{{SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
which do not add categories and don't show up with the same scripts to the template version, so eventually there should not be any. I assume you have read the project page, but please feel welcome to ask and discuss if there are any points that need clarification and if you have any good ideas. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:06, 12 December 2018 (UTC)- Hi Pbsouthwood, Thank you for the advice above. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:46, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Greeting to you. I am working on the short description on the sport person articles, stating with combat sports, and since the short description is said to limit (preferably) to 40 characters, I used "MMA fighter" instead of "mixed martial arts fighter" and BJJ practitioner instead of "Brazilian jiu jitsu practitioner" as MMA and BJJ are very commonly used in the media and just like UN for United Nation or USSR for Union Soviet Socialist of Republics. I just want to make sure it is ok to use MMA/mma and BJJ/bjj in the short description tag (I have done about 300 pages of using these abbreviation already). Kindly advise. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi CASSIOPEIA, I tend to go for intelligibility in preference to brevity, but there is no broad consensus, so you can do what you can justify to anyone who queries. I use the short descriptions as link annotations, and for that purpose longer works just fine. I will not force them into a short format just because the reading team at WMF find it convenient for their current needs, and 100 characters of clarity beats 40 characters of confusion in my books. Obviously sometimes you can be both brief and clear, but a lot of the time it is one or the other. Consider the reader. Will the average reader know what your abbreviations mean? If yes, then they will probably be fine. If no, then they are not serving a useful purpose. MMA would be meaningful to me, as a non-follower with a bit of background, but BJJ would tell me nothing. You probably need to consult a few other potential users to get a better idea for those examples. I would not use those abbreviations, but I can't tell you to not to. Cheers, · · ·Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:15, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Greeting to you. I am working on the short description on the sport person articles, stating with combat sports, and since the short description is said to limit (preferably) to 40 characters, I used "MMA fighter" instead of "mixed martial arts fighter" and BJJ practitioner instead of "Brazilian jiu jitsu practitioner" as MMA and BJJ are very commonly used in the media and just like UN for United Nation or USSR for Union Soviet Socialist of Republics. I just want to make sure it is ok to use MMA/mma and BJJ/bjj in the short description tag (I have done about 300 pages of using these abbreviation already). Kindly advise. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Thank your for your quick response. Appreciate it. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsourthwood, Greeting to you. I came across this script [1]. Just want to check you this is same as
{{SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
? or I could use this script and it will adds useful maintenance categories. This article Dave_Grosz was short descripted using this script and shown short description on the hidden category. I just want to make sure I do the right things before using the script or I show just tag manually on each article using{{short description|xxx xxx}}
. Thank in advance. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)- @CASSIOPEIA:, I use Galobtter's script all the time. It is very convenient and does almost all of what you would want. It does not handle editing automatically transcluded short descriptions in disambiguation pages or from infoboxes, or bare magic word short descriptions - to change those you have to make a manual edit - but it is great for editing and saving short descriptions from Wikidata ( some of them are quite adequate), for drag and drop creation from lead paragraphs, and for general trimming and copyediting. The short description category is included with the
{{short description}}
template, so don't worry about that, it is part of the package and the reason why the bare magic word is deprecated. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)- The Dave Grosz short description looks fine. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- OK Thank you Ppsouthwood for the advice and info. I installed the script - see [2] and I dont see any additional function from "More" drop down menu (or any where actually). I believe I miss /dont get something here. Kindly help to fill me in with advice what should I do. Thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 21:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- The Dave Grosz short description looks fine. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA:, I use Galobtter's script all the time. It is very convenient and does almost all of what you would want. It does not handle editing automatically transcluded short descriptions in disambiguation pages or from infoboxes, or bare magic word short descriptions - to change those you have to make a manual edit - but it is great for editing and saving short descriptions from Wikidata ( some of them are quite adequate), for drag and drop creation from lead paragraphs, and for general trimming and copyediting. The short description category is included with the
- Hi Pbsourthwood, Greeting to you. I came across this script [1]. Just want to check you this is same as
@CASSIOPEIA:, The gadget should show you a couple of lines of text at the top of the page in read mode, below the article title. For example, at Plebeian Council I see:
Wikidata: plebeian council (Q15056619), Ancient Roman assemby
Aliases: Comitia Plebis Tributa, Concilium Plebis, Plebian Assembly
The principal assembly of the ancient Roman Republic (Edit)
Another example, at Political institutions of ancient Rome:
Wikidata: political institutions of ancient Rome (Q2915100), no description given
Aliases: None
Missing article description (Add)
The first two lines are the item, description, and aliases at Wikidata, complete with link to the item at Wikidata. The third line is the current short description on Wikipedia
If you click on (edit) or (add) it should open a small editing window in the third line with the current short description and give the options (Save) and (Cancel)
Does this not happen for you? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Ppsouthwood, thanks for the reply. For the two examples above. I could not see the Wikidata and Aliases info but I could see the short description info/missing article description. I tried on other articles and I could input and change the short descriptions and they also appear on hidden category "Articles with short description" on the articles. Since I could not see the Wikidata and Aliases info, does this mean what I have done would not connect/transfer to Wikidata. Kindly advise. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:22, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA:, If you want to change Wikidata you have to do that separately. It is optional. Sometimes the description on Wikidata will be OK as it is, sometimes the Wikipedia version will also be better on Wikidata. This is something you will have to judge for yourself, but when there is no description on Wikidata it is a safe bet that adding the Wikipedia description will be an improvement on Wikidata.
- If you are not seeing the Wikidata and aliases, maybe I have another gadget running that does that. I tend to forget these things once installed. Galobtter will probably be able to explain it all better than I can. I will also have a closer look tomorrow and see if I can work it out as it is a bit late for analytical thinking and problem solving here and I have had a busy day. It is worth getting the Wikidata stuff visible, specially if you want to fix Wikidata too. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:45, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Appreciate it and I would be convenience to see Wikidata and aliases as well. Take your time to provide me the info and have a good rest and sweet dream. Thanks a lot. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:57, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Pbsouthwood and CASSIOPEIA:, The wikidata and and aliases thing is indeed from another gadget, that should be installable through
mw.loader.load("//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yair rand/WikidataInfo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
(IIRC what that gadget did) Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:34, 30 December 2018 (UTC)- Thanks Galobtter, I now remember. That is the gadget I use and find very helpful. I have been trying to work out what it was for the last hour, so your reply is timely and helpful. CASSIOPEIA, that is the way to go. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 04:44, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Pbsouthwood and CASSIOPEIA:, The wikidata and and aliases thing is indeed from another gadget, that should be installable through
- Appreciate it and I would be convenience to see Wikidata and aliases as well. Take your time to provide me the info and have a good rest and sweet dream. Thanks a lot. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:57, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Galobtter and Pbsouthwood, Thank you so much for the help. Appreciate it and Happy New Year
. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Galobtter and Pbsouthwood, Thank you so much for the help. Appreciate it and Happy New Year
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Just one more thing, I think I would put subject's nickname as the "alias" as per Pseudonym. Many combat sport fighters do have nicknames and I want to make sure it is ok to add in them and not find myself receiving some unpleasant messages of my actions is not appropriate or I have to go back and remove them later. Here are some (about 400) nicknames of the mma fighters - see List of current UFC fighters and pls advise if it is ok to add them. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, the alias is a field in Wikidata, It is not generally used in short descriptions, though there is no rule about it specifically. The short description is there to give the reader a better idea of whether the article is the one they need to get the information they want. It may be that in combat sport this is a good way of identifying the content, but I do not know and cannot advise you as it is not in my field of interest or expertise. I would suggest that you find an appropriate WikiProject and ask for ideas there. If you dont get any useful advice you can be bold, but preferably with some discretion. Remember that a short description is like any other content - anyone who has a better short description can edit it to improve the existing one, and BRD applies as everywhere else. Also one does not simply delete a short description without substituting what you think is a better one, and should be prepared to explain why it is better if challenged. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:01, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Just one more thing, I think I would put subject's nickname as the "alias" as per Pseudonym. Many combat sport fighters do have nicknames and I want to make sure it is ok to add in them and not find myself receiving some unpleasant messages of my actions is not appropriate or I have to go back and remove them later. Here are some (about 400) nicknames of the mma fighters - see List of current UFC fighters and pls advise if it is ok to add them. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Sorry I think i was not clear of my question. The question is NOT about short description but it is about "Alias field" in Wikidata. Can nicknames be considered as alias (I know stage name, pen name can). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, Sorry, I misunderstood. Yes, I would think that a nickname would be an appropriate alias on Wikidata. I would not expect any problem with adding a fighting name in the alias field. It is another way to identify the person. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:57, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Sorry I think i was not clear of my question. The question is NOT about short description but it is about "Alias field" in Wikidata. Can nicknames be considered as alias (I know stage name, pen name can). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, OK. You have been very helpful, quick in reply and very polite. Thank you. Appreciate it. Have a good new year eve. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA, If I have helped you to do constructive work on the encyclopaedia, the time was well spent. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:35, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, OK. You have been very helpful, quick in reply and very polite. Thank you. Appreciate it. Have a good new year eve. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Happy happy
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- Thanks Evad37, and the same to you. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).
- There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD#G6:
- G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
- R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
- G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.
- The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
- Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.
- Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
- At least 8 characters in length
- Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
- Different from their username
- User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
- Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
- {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.
- Following the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: AGK, Courcelles, GorillaWarfare, Joe Roe, Mkdw, SilkTork.
- Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
- Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
Short descriptions
Happy New Year, Peter!
Following on your suggestion that we should standardise on an initial capital letter, I think we could use the {{ucfirst:}}
"magic" function to force an initial capital letter without affecting the rest of the description, like this:
<div class="shortdescription nomobile noexcerpt noprint searchaux" style="display:none">{{ucfirst:{{{1|}}}}}{{SHORTDESC:{{ucfirst:{{{1|}}}}}|{{{2|}}}}}</div>
What do you think? --RexxS (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- You have a good year too RexxS, with some good dives in it.
- If that code means that the short description will display with an initial capital, and that annotated links and any other calls returning the content will be capitalised, then I like it as a simple fix. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Rats - I'd forgotten about the annotated links, which read the parameter to the template, not its display. Okay, we can drop my idea, and just encourage folks to use a capital letter. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 10:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Another option could be to force the capital in the annotated link too? In the long term having the SD formatted consistently is less likely to cause unforeseen complications I guess. Possibly a thing that could be fixed with AWB. One day I must work out how to use the thing. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 11:16, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Rats - I'd forgotten about the annotated links, which read the parameter to the template, not its display. Okay, we can drop my idea, and just encourage folks to use a capital letter. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 10:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Consensus against annotated links on disambiguation pages
There is now a clear consensus against the use of annotated links on disambiguation pages, due to their violating the formatting principles outlines in MOS:DAB, and providing different information than what is required for disambiguation. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- @BD2412:, Thank you for the notification. Where is the discussion? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 04:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Use of annotated links. I should mention that another issue raised was the disconnection of material on the disambiguation page from the editing of the disambiguation page itself. bd2412 T 04:31, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- @BD2412:, Thanks, I had just found it. Some of the points made are valid, so I agree that it would sometimes be problematic. I will link to the discussion from the short description template, and WikiProject short description pages. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 04:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your understanding. bd2412 T 04:47, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- @BD2412:, No problem, we are here to build the encyclopaedia. Some of the early quibbling deserved a good trouting, but eventually some solid reasoning came up and your summation was accurate, clear and to the point. I have used part of your summation on the template talk page to explain the position, you might wish to check if you agree with my explanation. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your understanding. bd2412 T 04:47, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- @BD2412:, Thanks, I had just found it. Some of the points made are valid, so I agree that it would sometimes be problematic. I will link to the discussion from the short description template, and WikiProject short description pages. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 04:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- The discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Use of annotated links. I should mention that another issue raised was the disconnection of material on the disambiguation page from the editing of the disambiguation page itself. bd2412 T 04:31, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Translation project for "onderwaterduik"
Hi Peter! How are you?
What's going on with (our) translation of scuba terminology on af:wiki?
Best regards & Happy New Year! --Aliwal2012 (talk) 06:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- I am well, Aliwal2012, kind of busy with real life and other Wikistuff. Season's greetings to you too, and I trust you are also well. I am afraid I have been somewhat distracted by other projects the last while. I am going to have to take a look and see what more (if anything) needs to be done before moving to mainspace. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 07:03, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Aliwal2012 (talk) 12:32, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- I just moved it, and will comment out the English definitions, as original plan. They will still be available in edit mode for checking. Maybe it will get more attention now. Who knows. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Aliwal2012 (talk) 12:32, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #026, 20 Jan 2019
Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...
New participants
A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:
Harvesting categories tool prototype
DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.
New portals since last issue
- Academic publishing
- Accounting
- Adam and Eve
- African Great Lakes
- Al Green
- Alternative views
- America's Next Top Model
- Andaman and Nicobar Islands
- Angles
- Applied mathematics
- Arabic
- Areas of mathematics
- Atlanta metropolitan area
- Atlantic Ocean
- Big Bash League
- Bijelo Dugme
- Bill Cosby
- Boats
- Bombardier Aerospace
- Bruce Willis
- Canadian law
- Cannons
- Caribbean American
- Chinese American
- Chinese Canadians
- Chinese gardens
- Chris Brown
- City
- Common law
- Criminal law
- Czechoslovakia
- Data
- Data warehouses
- DC Comics
- Deities
- DeKalb County
- Destiny's Child
- Differential equations
- Discrete geometry
- East Asia
- Economy of China
- Economy of India
- Economy of Malaysia
- Economy of the United Kingdom
- Ellen DeGeneres
- Email clients
- E
- Equations
- European Americans
- Filipino Americans
- Football in Algeria
- Fox Corporation
- Fractions and ratios
- Functional analysis
- Game theory
- Girlguiding
- Gloucestershire
- Grazhdanskaya Oborona
- Greek diaspora
- Habsburg Monarchy
- Hilbert's problems
- Hoodoo Gurus
- Hyundai Motor Company
- Iggy Azalea
- Indian Ocean
- Infinity
- Information theory
- Integrals
- Irish diaspora
- Irrational numbers
- Italian diaspora
- Japanese diaspora
- J. Cole
- Jennifer Lopez
- Jessica Lange
- John Fogerty
- Kehlani
- Kiev
- K. Michelle
- Knot theory
- Kool & the Gang
- Lakes in China
- Lake Van
- Leonardo DiCaprio
- Limerick
- Literary composition
- Long Island Rail Road
- Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority
- Lukas Graham
- Mathematical optimization
- Matt Damon
- Merchant ships
- Metallic means
- Metro-North Railroad
- Microsoft Windows
- Military of India
- Miss America
- Modulation
- Moon landing
- Mozilla
- Music of Ireland
- Narratives
- Nashville
- Nassau County
- Norfolk
- Nottinghamshire
- One Life to Live
- Overseas Chinese
- Percentages
- Probability distributions
- Public Broadcasting Service
- Quezon City
- Raven-Symoné
- R. Kelly
- Rodeo
- RuneScape
- Sarah Silverman
- Saturn rockets
- Science and technology
- Sesame Street
- Seth MacFarlane
- Ships
- Shipwrecks
- Shropshire
- Spaceports
- Space suits
- Spanish diaspora
- Steam locomotives
- Suffolk
- Suzuki
- Tanks
- Tensors
- The CW
- Thomas Aquinas
- T.I.
- TISM
- Tom Cruise
- Toni Braxton
- Toyota
- Transportation in the Philippines
- True Blood
- Violin
- Virgin Group
- Vladimir Putin
- Volkswagen
- Volume
- Warner Bros.
- Warships
- Warwickshire
- Washington D.C.
- [[Portal:Watercraft|
- Web syndication
- Wikis
- Witchcraft
- Women's sports
- World of Warcraft
What else is going on
There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.
DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.
Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.
Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).
Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 08:39, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Copyright problem on Tsitsikamma National Park and Helderberg Marine Protected Area
Hello Pbsouthwood. The above two articles were flagged by the bot as potential copyright problems. Like a case I reported to you a couple years ago, the bot is picking up technical material that is difficult or impossible to summarise or paraphrase. Nevertheless I have done some paraphrasing and removal of content to reduce the overlap. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Diannaa, I will take a look. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 19:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Diannaa, That looks fine. The Tsitsikamma section just needs a brief summary, I will be making a full article later, and the Helderberg article has not lost too much. I expect to be working on a whole batch of similar articles over the next couple of months, and though I do try to avoid getting too close to the source, sometimes a list of species will look much the same as another list of the same species. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 19:33, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- There were a few others already this week, which I marked as "no action needed". I will continue to review each report and do additional paraphrasing for instances that I think need it and I can think of a way to paraphrase without losing the meaning
. Thanks for your help and understanding. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- And thank you for your diligence and attention to detail. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 19:46, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- There were a few others already this week, which I marked as "no action needed". I will continue to review each report and do additional paraphrasing for instances that I think need it and I can think of a way to paraphrase without losing the meaning
Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #027, 28 Jan 2019
Portal styles
For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.
If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.
Conversion continues
There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.
You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".
Flagship portals: the portals on the Main Page
Speaking of upgrades...
The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:
- Portal:Arts
- Portal:Biography
- Portal:Geography
- Portal:History
- Portal:Mathematics
- Portal:Science
- Portal:Society
- Portal:Technology
Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.
The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.
As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.
Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.
And be sure they are on your watchlist.
New portals since last issue
- Accomack County
- Adair County
- Adair County
- Adams County
- Adidas
- Airbus
- Americas
- Bangladesh Armed Forces
- Bedfordshire
- Bicycles
- Boeing
- Chester County
- Conspiracy theories
- Corals
- County Durham
- Culture of the United States
- DC Universe
- Dragons
- Economy of Pakistan
- Electricity
- Ethnic groups
- European Union law
- Fatimid Caliphate
- Flanders
- Frederick County
- Fujian
- German language
- Global issues
- Greek mathematics
- Grisons
- Guangxi
- Hebei
- Henan
- Herefordshire
- History of North America
- Hollywood
- Hubei
- Hunan
- Hybrid
- Inner Mongolia
- Jet engines
- Jiangsu
- Johor
- Johor Bahru
- Julius Caesar
- Kuala Lumpur
- Lake Constance
- Lee Kuan Yew
- Lufthansa
- Lunar eclipses
- Magnetism
- Menstrual cycle
- Mustelids
- Mutations
- New York University
- Nord-du-Québec
- North Africa
- PepsiCo
- Pitcairn Islands
- Podcasting
- Quantum electrodynamics
- Quantum mechanics
- Rawalpindi
- Réunion
- Roads in Pakistan
- Rockefeller Center
- Sichuan
- St. Gallen
- State University of New York
- Temperature
- Tsunamis
- Veterinary medicine
- Vorarlberg
- Walgreens
- Walmart
- Weasels
- Xinjiang
- Yunnan
Keep 'em coming!
Deorphanizing the new portals
As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.
What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.
Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...
Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.
That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!
To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.
It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.
Good news indeed.
Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!
And, that's a wrap
That's all I have to report this time around.
No doubt there will be more to tell soon.
Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)