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Hi SilverLocust, not sure if I understand it correctly, but at #Balanced editing restriction it says: "edits in the Article, Talk, Draft, and Draft talk" and on the edit filter you added all 13 talk namespaces, instead of those 4. Is that intended? Nobody (talk) 10:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@1AmNobody24: Yes, that was intentional because the restriction also includes that "They are topic banned from the Arab–Israeli conflict, broadly construed, in all namespaces other than these four (except for their own userspace and user talkspace)." My point in flagging edits in those other namespaces is that they would be violations. SilverLocust 💬 10:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see, I assumed only the first point would be done with an edit filter, not the second one too. Nobody (talk) 10:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you find that inefficient, I am open to suggestions. SilverLocust 💬 11:19, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SilverLocust, I have a suggestion for you to implement, but would it be alright to exclude specific namespaces, or user talk pages? If so, please explain which namespaces to opt out. Should we also exclude administrators and bots as well? Codename Noreste (talk) 15:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have edited it to exclude bots, non-extended-confirmed users, and namespaces other than Article, Talk, Draft, and Draft talk. I'd welcome suggestions for improving it, preferably at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard. SilverLocust 💬 05:06, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just a quick fix: Currently the filter is a & (b & c | d) & e which means it looks for b & c or d instead of c or d, this should be changed to a & b & (c | d) & e as I believe that's what you intend to check. Nobody (talk) 06:09, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@1AmNobody24: No, I did intend (b & c) or d rather than b & (c or d). The talk pages of ECR pages generally aren't extended-confirmed protected, so it's not useful to check their protection level (which I included to avoid having to do the new_html check—which to my understanding should be avoided for performance—on an unprotected article/draft). If I were trying to check (c or d)—that is, equals_to_any(page_namespace,0,118) or equals_to_any(page_namespace,1,119)—then those could just be combined into equals_to_any(page_namespace,0,1,118,119). SilverLocust 💬 06:33, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1AmNobody24 and SilverLocust, I went ahead and rearranged the conditions to appear neater, and I added some parentheses after the OR pipe to fix the filter's logic, surrounding the extended confirmed protection requirement and the article/draft namespaces. Thoughts?

contains_any(user_groups, "extendedconfirmed", "sysop") &
new_html contains "This page is subject to the extended confirmed restriction related to the Arab-Israeli conflict." &
(
    equals_to_any(page_namespace, 1, 119) |
    (
        "extendedconfirmed" in page_restrictions_edit &
        equals_to_any(page_namespace, 0, 118)
    )
)

Codename Noreste (talk) 13:04, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

new_html really is as inefficient as they say, and shouldn't be included as an early check (ie for every edit by any EC user). -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:42, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't putting new_html at the last line also work as well? Codename Noreste (talk) 19:07, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's how the current filter is written, and the best place for it, so all the other checks are run first, and as many edits as possible are eliminated before it gets to that line. The tracking category (I don't understand how well it's currently implemented) and new_wikitext would be a better option (again as late as possible). -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Zzuuzz: The tracking category isn't part of the raw wikitext of the page, so I don't believe an edit filter condition can check for it. Am I mistaken about that?
The way it currently works is that the invisible html message is added by {{pp}}/{{pp-extended}}/etc. (on an article or draft) or {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice base}} (on a talk page) if the subject page is extended-protected and the talk page has a WP:PIA notice. SilverLocust 💬 20:11, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course you're right. {Contentious topics/talk notice|a-i} ? You know about that stuff better than me. Anyway, good job, carry on :) -- zzuuzz (talk) 20:21, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't use a new_wikitext check for the talk pages because there are also {{Contentious topics/Arab-Israeli talk notice}}, {{Contentious topics/page restriction talk notice|a-i}}, {{ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement}}, various template redirects, and different template parameters sometimes used. Also because the new_html check allows it to exclude talk pages with a PIA notice but whose subject page is unprotected. SilverLocust 💬 20:37, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about declining the CSD before you pulled the trigger because this has been maintained on en-wiki for years by @Oshwah, and likely wasn't added to Commons since it's a project-specific image that doesn't really have cross-wiki purposes. CC @JayCubby. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Voorts, that's a fair point, but I'd say they are in scope, as Commons has c:Category:Admin statistics for English Wikipedia. Adminstats, I'd say, aren't a niche enwiki issue and could be easily moved to Commons. Cheers! JayCubby 03:19, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If Oshwah would like it {{Keep local}}'d, that would of course be fine. SilverLocust 💬 03:20, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oshwah hasn't edited for 3 days, but I suppose he can seek a refund or undelete it himself when he's back. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:21, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here. I see these statistics as an opportunity to improve the process, and you gotta say this... it's quite interesting to see the pattern. This year will be different due to the addition of the alternative method currently in trial, but I believe that this is good data and worth keeping. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, the file is still fully available and not up for deletion, its page history is just now imported to Wikimedia Commons. SilverLocust 💬 03:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarity

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Hi, I noticed that you added a CTOP notice to Kingdom of Israel (united monarchy). Modern Palestine and Israel are not referenced on this page except in the infobox in relation to geography, and in one picture caption. Modern politics is not mentioned. Have you tagged the page due to these mentions in the infobox/picture, and mention of Israeli archaeologists in the body, or do you have a broader interpretation of how the CTOP restriction pertains to this archaeology topic? Iskandar323 (talk) 08:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Iskandar323: I added the notice to it as a primary article because the protection log states that it protected as a primary article. I was following El C's designation rather than making my own assessment of how to categorize the article. SilverLocust 💬 09:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. @El C: Any further insight? Your log entry notes "non-modern, but treating as a primary article" Iskandar323 (talk) 09:37, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing beyond what the edits in the months leading to the protection don't already clearly reveal. El_C 11:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@El C: Ok, yes, I see the localised idiocy /vandalism, but that doesn't make the whole page a CTOP primary article and out of bounds, right? Iskandar323 (talk) 11:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Localized is putting it mildly. Anyway, I think that in this instance, it does, but feel free to appeal to the committee if you disagree. El_C 11:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SilverLocust El_C protected Jordan in much the same way, the language of WP:ECR allows it to be implemented liberally, for example including in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 back then. This does not mean the article is a PIA primary topic, ARCA (see Talk:Jordan) determined that Jordan was not one. I appeal the notice to you since you posted it. Kenneth Kho (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To reiterate what I said above, El_C stated in the protection log that the protection was "as a primary article". SilverLocust 💬 15:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Articles review

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Hi Silver, I would like to invite you to review dozens of my Wikipedia articles of Marriza (singer), Northeastern Regional Military Command (Myanmar), Aung La (singer), Thurein Tun, Khaing Thu Kha, and Tin Maung Win (general), I will provide a example, you only have to mark the articles with a "The page Marriza (singer) has been reviewed." KhantWiki (talk) 18:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing involves quite a few steps before clicking the approval button. There's a considerable backlog of articles in need of reviewing, so reviewers generally don't take requests to review particular pages. In any event, it's not something I'm interested in doing on request, except possibly for articles in topic areas that are familiar to me, which would not include these articles. Sorry, SilverLocust 💬 07:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a problem Silver, it's not that big of a deal, it's not that important for me, I really understand your honest answer on why you're only gonna take requests in the articles that are really in need of reviewing, which reviewers will not take requests to review particular pages on particular requests, because it may seem unfair to some. But, one thing, most of these articles I provided to you are based off of individuals from Myanmar, a country which I am from, a country currently embroiled in internal and serious military conflict and a civil war, just like Israel and Palestine, like Sudan, perhaps it's the biggest civil war country in history of the world, which is pretty interesting and familiar if you ask me, though it might not have the same effect on you. KhantWiki (talk) 08:21, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-06

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

Administrator changes

readded
removed Euryalus

CheckUser changes

removed

Oversighter changes

removed

Technical news

  • Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
  • A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145

Arbitration


January 2025 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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The Working Man's Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to SilverLocust for accumulating at least 10 points during the January 2025 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 16,000+ articles and 14,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 19,791.2 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:38, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see you logged my ECP, thanks

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But I'll admit to some confusion as what I did was implement the restrictions I saw on the talk page. Do such restrictions need to be logged as well? Doug Weller talk 13:13, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: Yes, because putting up a talk notice or editnotice can be done by a non-administrator. The relevant procedure is Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Logging ("logged by the administrator who applied the sanction or page restriction at Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log [...] (including [...] page protections or other restrictions)"). SilverLocust 💬 13:23, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, forgot that anyone can add the talk notice. I'll try to remember next time. Thanks for the explanation. Doug Weller talk 13:28, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-07

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding editnotice to ARBPIA ECP-protected pages

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Adding the talk page notice and EC protection is fairly straightforward. But adding the editnotice (at least for me) is very awkward, and I know many of those pages do not have the notice. Is there a way to automatically add the editnotice to pages with EC protection and an ARBPIA talk page notice?

Decision was All primary articles will be subject to the ARBPIA General Sanctions. {{ArbCom Arab-Israeli enforcement}} should be added to the talk page of affected pages, and {{ArbCom Arab-Israeli editnotice}} should be added as an editnotice to affected pages. The presence of the templates is required before the General Sanctions can be enforced on primary articles. The templates may be added to primary articles by any user, but may only be removed by an uninvolved administrator. Users who lack the appropriate permissions to create an editnotice should place the talk page template as normal, then make an edit request for someone with permissions to create the edit notice.

Thanks. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Rsjaffe: If you have a list of pages to add the editnotice to, WP:AWB should work to create the editnotices. (I use WP:JWB instead since I use a Mac.)
So long as you log the protection at WP:AELOG, I'll get around the adding the editnotice at some point. (In fact, I'll do that now for articles in the tracking category Category:Wikipedia pages subject to the extended confirmed restriction related to the Arab-Israeli conflict – that is, ECP'd articles with the talk notice.) I don't think it's a big deal to protect the article without adding the editnotice; it just means that the WP:1RR won't generally be enforceable until it's added.
Starting with a list of the articles, I add Template:Editnotices/Page/ to the beginning of each title, then put that list in JWB. Then I leave the "Replace:" field empty and in the "With:" field put {{Contentious topics/Arab-Israeli editnotice}}. Under "Skip" I click the option to skip when "exists". That should do the trick (with an edit summary, of course). SilverLocust 💬 20:29, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Thanks for doing that and double thanks for the AWB instructions. That makes it very simple. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 21:01, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RFPP PIA backlog

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I tried to start with the voluminous amount of PIA protection requests outstanding but just gave up after six or seven. Since your sig at AELOG indicates that you've handled a lot of these bulk requests lately, maybe you could do the rest (which is to say, a lot). Daniel Case (talk) 09:05, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to take a look at those. SilverLocust 💬 09:17, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-08

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