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Electrolytic corrosion

The edit history says you opened a copyvio revdel request. But why? The text in question (which had already been reverted anyway) was 100% written by me, with sources provided. (Surely using the “quote” function in the graphical editor’s citation form does not constitute a copyvio?) And the comparison tool shows 0.0% similarity to the two sources. So I’m confused as to why the revdel was opened. Cheers, — tooki (talk) 20:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tooki 4 Sentences of the text you added, are a exact copy of sentences written here in 2018. Nobody (talk) 06:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your copyvio request is highly problematic for two distinct reasons:

1. What a copyvio is and is not

My understanding of Wikipedia copyright policy is that violations deal with content included in an article’s content: the text, images, etc. It does not, however, extend to the bibliographic information used to document the sources used (citing). The “quote” parameter of a cite template (which does not cause the text to become part of the article text) is essentially bibliographic metadata.

Thus, “text you added” does NOT include the text within a source’s quote parameter . Every word of article text I added was written by me, and bears no resemblance to the forum thread you link to.

Are you, in all seriousness, claiming a copyvio due to the wording of text which is in a quote parameter, and thus expressly being marked as being not my own?!? If so, that seems to me to suggest a misunderstanding of what a copyvio is. The “quote” parameter of a citation exists precisely to make clear what passage of the source text one is referring to, while not including it in the article text as such.

Note also that your copyvio request was in fact rejected because the admin correctly identified no violation.

2. Who plagiarized whom

Now, if the source itself committed plagiarism, one could reasonably argue that the source is bad and needs replacing, but this does not mean the wiki editor who cited the source committed a copyright violation.

However, if you google some of what I assume are the offending sentences, for example “Electrolytic corrosion is often confused with galvanic corrosion. While galvanic corrosion is driven by the difference in corrosion potential between two metals, the electrolytic corrosion is driven by the external sources of EMF.”, you will find that my source is actually the origin, and that other sites copied it. I found a properly-sourced mention of that sentence in a ~~2007 forum post~~ 2016 forum post ^corrected, attributing it to the same corrosiopedia page I cited. This dates the sentence to well before 2018, strongly suggesting the fishing forum plagiarized corrosiopedia.

So in this case, the source I provided is actually the correct one.

It’s good to remember that if you find a passage of text copied across the web, the website you are looking at may not have committed plagiarism, but in fact could be the victim of it. Consequently, one should be careful before making claims of plagiarism (“exact copy of”).

P.S. Finally, given the sheer length of the fishing forum page you (mistakenly) believed to be the source of the text, it would have been courteous of you specify what the offending text is when asked, rather than the terse “4 sentences of the text you added”. Similarly, you should have addressed my specific question about the “quote” parameter rather than ignore it. — tooki (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tooki, I've taken a closer look a your source and it looks like you're right. It isn't a copyright violation in the way I thought, since the source isn't the forum I found, but the one you added. And to address your P.S. message: The part mentioned on the forum page can easily be seem when opening the CopyPatrol report or the Copyvios detector, both of them were linked in the RevDel request. Nobody (talk) 07:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I’ll take a look at the tools again. Regards, — tooki (talk) 12:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@1AmNobody24 I just noticed that I actually misread the date of the forum post that dates the corrosionpedia article as coming before the forum post; luckily, the outcome is still the same, as the correct date is still earlier. I’ve noted the error above. — tooki (talk) 15:14, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tooki replying following your request on my talk page. Technically reproducing any text is a copyvio unless the source is either:

explicitly released into the public domain,
out of copyright through age, or
fair use is claimed. (Wikipedia:Copyright problems#What text can be reused?)

Failure to attribute constitutes plagiarism.

As the relevant text was all sourced it's not plagiarism although it could still be a copyvio, albeit an innocent one if the attributed source was itself violating a copyright.

The fair use point is the one where the quote parameter in citation templates gets abused with editors thinking it gives them carte blanche to reproduce copious amounts of copyrighted material without consideration to whether the quantity of material used falls within fair use. Sticking it in an attributed quote which only appears in the footnotes does not get around the fair use policy, and I disagree that it's bibliographic metadata except where a quote is needed to pinpoint the material in the source and where other citation template parameters e.g. page or location fail to achieve this. Arguably, almost any quote can be rewritten (Wikipedia:Use our own words) but I think most editors would struggle to come up with a more succinct definition of the differences between EC and GC than the quote, so in my opinion this is a valid fair use of the material as it uses the minimal copyrighted material to make its point. Nthep (talk) 09:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Well, in all fairness, I did write a succinct definition in my own words. Others decided they preferred the redirect over a separate page, so it’s not used anymore. The quote parameter texts were just to identify the relevant passages in the sources.

A “rewritten” quote is no longer a quote (it’s a paraphrasing), and while that is exactly what we want for the article text, it could not not serve the purpose of identifying a source text passage. And indeed, calling a rewritten text a “quote” would constitute a serious misattribution error (especially if the rewrite introduces errors, etc), since that suggests the author cited wrote a text they did not write.

Is there any established guidance with respect to the amount of text quoted in the quote parameter? I haven’t found anything beyond the brief text at WP:FQ.

Thanks again and regards, — tooki (talk) 12:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of any guidance over the amount of quoted text, WP:NFCC just says "brief". Every use has to be looked at in context of how it's being used in an article. If definitions get applied then wikilawyering kicks in, in disputes, over how much text was used. Nthep (talk) 13:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Vdjbenzor (05:56, 9 January 2025)

Hello How can I get my biography on Wikipedia ? --Vdjbenzor (talk) 05:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vdjbenzor, If you mean a biography about you, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. Nobody (talk) 06:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Skt34002 (19:31, 10 January 2025)

I want to attach a image on a biography page --Skt34002 (talk) 19:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Skt34002, Help:Image tutorial might be of help to you. Nobody (talk) 07:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi 1AmNobody24. Thank you for your work on Shai Davidai. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for writing the article! Have a blessed day!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|SunDawn}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 16:25, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SunDawn, this message should probably have gone to Allthemilescombined1, if you look at the articles edit history. Nobody (talk) 16:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:If You Could See the Sun

Hello, 1AmNobody24. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "If You Could See the Sun".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ghost lermaine (05:46, 20 January 2025)

How to appear on the Frontline on Google --Ghost lermaine (talk) 05:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ghost lermaine, that should never be the motivation for writing or changing articles, improving the Wikipedia is the goal, not helping Google. Nobody (talk) 06:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ghost lermaine (05:46, 20 January 2025) (2)

How to create your own articles --Ghost lermaine (talk) 05:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ghost lermaine, see Help:Your first article. Nobody (talk) 06:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

Thanks DaniloDaysOfOurLives 🥳 Nobody (talk) 06:09, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I need a different user name?

Can you please give me one You will accept? MDI Luxury Cabinetry (talk) 04:23, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MDI Luxury Cabinetry, see WP:UNC. Nobody (talk) 04:53, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is way too hard just to look up and add info. Ty for ur help. MDI Luxury Cabinetry (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MDI Luxury Cabinetry (23:57, 25 January 2025)

Could you show me how to delete this account? This is the most frustrating website I’ve ever had part of as far as I’m

concerned I want nothing to do with it. I just would like to delete it and be done. i’ve done everything they’ve asked. I can’t even get a username that’s acceptable then someone makes up a username trying to be funny and then I accept it then they won’t even change it and they want me to change it. I just don’t have the time for it or the energy. If you could do that for me, I would really appreciate it. --MDI Luxury Cabinetry (talk) 23:57, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked the user.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:21, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Hamod 2032 (10:06, 27 January 2025)

i wanna upload an immage to my article but it does not let me --Hamod 2032 (talk) 10:06, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hamod 2032, in order to upload images you need the autoconfirmed right, which is automatically given to your account if it's four days old and you have made 10 edits. Nobody (talk) 10:10, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear 1mnobody24 thank you for your infos and i will autoconfrimed Hamod 2032 (talk) 14:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Chef Venkatesh Bhat (08:26, 31 January 2025)

Hello sir how do i enter the details for professional, personal, life achievement citations into my page? --Chef Venkatesh Bhat (talk) 08:26, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chef Venkatesh Bhat, see WP:REFVISUAL. Nobody (talk) 08:32, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello --Madiha khan3388 (talk) 12:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SIAMIT32 (20:13, 2 February 2025)

Hey, thanks for being my mentor! --SIAMIT32 (talk) 20:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thanks. It's very clear to me that this is the work of Vinayvinyill, a prolific socker, since they've hit Darshan (actor) related pages, and then "randomly" hit the four userboxes on my profile that their past socks have commented/retorted on in past interactions. I've added a sock report. Cheers, Zinnober9 (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to help dealing with socks. Nobody (talk) 07:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Mentor, My name is Bobby Lee. O wanted to ask where do I start to create a profile about myself, my life and my businesses (10) in Hong Kong. --Bobby Kai Wo Lee (talk) 12:33, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bobby Kai Wo Lee, Wikipedia is not a way to promote yourself or your business, but a Encyclopedia. Nobody (talk) 16:55, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I'm Laru. I want to create a page for my company on Wikipedia. We have 10 press releases about our company, but I don't know how to do this. I tried two months ago, but none were approved. Our tool is an AI-powered mind mapping application. I need to know how to create a Wikipedia page correctly. Can you guide me on this? --Laru ADM (talk) 11:04, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Laru, in order to get a article the company need to mee the Notability guidelines (WP:GNG or WP:NCORP). This needs to be demonstrated with references that are considered significant coverage, secondary and reliable. Press releases aren't secondary and therefore aren't enough for an article. Nobody (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from GamingFrame (09:28, 11 February 2025)

Hiya, I saw the requirements for creating an article, regarding notability, is it enough that something is posted on github and has a website? --GamingFrame (talk) 09:28, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GamingFrame, that isn't enough to prove notability. It need sources from publications that are reliable, secondary and significantly cover the subject, such as newspapers or journals. Nobody (talk) 09:33, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey how do I create a biography --Rishav dhiman (talk) 09:43, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rishav dhiman, take a look at Help:Your first article and WP:BLPDD. But you shouldn't try making a biography about yourself (Wikipedia:Autobiography) if that's what you intended. Nobody (talk) 09:47, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SpyMonkey2013 (06:36, 13 February 2025)

My image isnt uploading --SpyMonkey2013 (talk) 06:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SpyMonkey2013, you can't upload images because your account isn't confirmed yet, which will happen once the account is 4 days old and has 10 edits. Also you should take a look at Wikipedia:User pages#What may I not have in my user pages?. Nobody (talk) 06:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a small subject that I am passionately interested in. (Among others) Japanese warplanes of World War II, the name of the article is "Kawasaki KI-48" concerning the year the bomber began operating, to "began in June 1940" under "operational history", how do I make sure that edit was changed and published? thank you for your answer. --Cygnusjake (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cygnusjake, to make sure that your additions won't get reverted, the information should be verifiable through a reliable source. If you have such a source you can learn more about adding it at Help:Editing and Help:Referencing for beginners. Nobody (talk) 06:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! :D --Gr4ngerh3ad (talk) 20:30, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gr4ngerh3ad. Nobody (talk) 06:10, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm indian amateur fighter --Angat rajpurohit (talk) 05:57, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Omareskayvie (01:15, 21 February 2025)

Hi Sir,

I would like to learn how to publish a local celebrity in Malaysia who is not on wikipedia yet.

How can i do this?

Thanks. --Omareskayvie (talk) 01:15, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Omareskayvie, take a look at Help:Your first article and Wikipedia:BLPDD. Nobody (talk) 06:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from JGGrünherz (23:37, 21 February 2025)

Hey, nice to meet you or so. I was wondering something, what if I found two sites are are nearly identical and about nearly the same topic? --JGGrünherz (talk) 23:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]