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Hi Hydrangeans. Thank you for your work on Horton Davies. Another editor, Aszx5000, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Excellent work. You are constructing articles of a consistently high quality - why are you not autopatrolled? thanks.

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Aszx5000}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Aszx5000 (talk) 12:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aszx5000: Thanks for your kind words; I try my best.
A user needs to have created at least 25 articles, and I've only created a bit less than half that many. Even if I reach that benchmark, I don't create articles that often, so the main purpose (to reduce the workload of new pages patrol by removing prolific high-quality creators' new articles from the patrol pool) may not quite apply. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 15:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are writing large high quality GA-rated article (I see that you have 5), which unfortunately do take time to patrol. Your articles are of a very high quality and in topic areas that would raise no red flags with autopatrolling. It is your choice, and but with +10,000 unreviewed articles (and +300 b-grade articles) on the queue, there is no need for any of yours to be on it. And maybe you might like to try patrolling the +B-grade articles someday. Obviously your choice but I wanted to let you know :) 11:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC) Aszx5000 (talk) 11:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't thought about how the length of a new article adds to the time consumed by patrolling. And a lot of the articles I've created have been lengthy at creation. I'll keep this in mind for when I pass the 25 article threshold. Thanks for the elaboration, and for the invitation to try patrolling; I'll give that some thought. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 16:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis

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On 3 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that American Colossus is a biography of a man who was "the most famous sportsman in the world" and "the most forgotten great athlete in American history"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Horton Davies

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On 25 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Horton Davies, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that ten years after publishing the book Great South African Christians, Horton Davies gave a speech criticizing South African churches and synagogues for their role in apartheid? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Horton Davies. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Horton Davies), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Image of the Disney character Cinderella

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It's just that the image of the Disney character Cinderella that ya uploaded is a screenshot yet it isn't promotional artwork at all. I mean it. Esagurton (talk) 12:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied in the thread you started on Talk:Cinderella (Disney character). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 18:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Big Fish

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Hello again! Just a quick note about this edit. Since "Siamese twins" is a popular (yet becoming archaic) term for conjoined twins, I always assumed that's the way Edward was using it. For better or for worse, people use "Siamese twins" without any intention of describing the geographic origin of the individuals. I haven't seen the film in awhile, so I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure Edward wasn't thinking about the nationality of Ping and Jing. Please let me know your thoughts :) Wafflewombat (talk) 16:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ever since I first watched the film, it's been my impression that this was all part of the punchline/setup. Edward calls the characters "Siamese twins", Will imagines that he means conjoined twins, and at the funeral Will finds out they aren't conjoined twins, just literally twins who are Asian. The punchline seems to play on both Edward's tendency to exaggerate, Will's tendency to think the worst of his tall tales, and possibly a conflation/misunderstanding of Asian heritages on Edward's part.
Still, that's simply my impression of the film. After combing secondary sources, I wasn't able to confirm if there's secondary coverage verifying this sense of that film element. I've revised the explanatory note to summarize what secondary sources say about the twin characters. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 18:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks for doing that. I further revised the wording for clarity and to maintain the "timeless present tense" used when writing about fiction. Please let me know if my edits are acceptable. Wafflewombat (talk) 18:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of File:Cinderella (1950 Disney character).png

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Just a screenshot but not photoshopped promotional artwork

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Cinderella (1950 Disney character).png

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A tag has been placed on File:Cinderella (1950 Disney character).png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

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Explanation of File:Cinderella (1950 Disney character).png

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For the last time, let me explain to ya about that image that it's a cropped screenshot of the Disney character Cinderella from a YouTube video but not a photoshopped promotional artwork image. Please understand. It's not a a photoshopped promotional artwork image of Cinderella like the other lead images of the Disney Princess articles of Snow White, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Moana and Raya. I mean it. But I think I want ya to find a photoshopped promotional artwork image of Cinderella, please. Esagurton (talk) 03:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those other images appear to be promotional artworks, but they haven't been photoshopped the way the previous image at Cinderella was (it had been photoshopped to change the color of a dress in a 21st-century promotional art of Cinderella from the modern blue to the original white). There is, in any case, no policy or guideline that I'm aware of requiring that articles about Disney Princesses use promotional artwork, photoshopped or otherwise. Please stop spamming me about it. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What the hell do ya mean spamming? Esagurton (talk) 11:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Cinderella (1950 Disney character).png

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That's not the lead image of the Disney character Cinderella that I expected for the article about her for it's just a cropped screenshot. Esagurton (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Cinderella (1950 Disney character).png

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September music

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story · music · places

Thank you for support! - Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this recommendation! How interesting to see how wildfires are handled today, and how this particular fire ended up having interesting legacies in public health and conservation. Reading about a wildfire reminds me of a book that I had been meaning to read, The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire that Saved America (HarperCollins, 2009). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 23:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with music from Moses und Aron, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks very much! Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 10:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Des Moines speech

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TY!

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TY so much for the further reading reference(s) for Richmond, Virginia slave market--I added them to Bibliography of the slave trade in the United States as well. Appreciate it. jengod (talk) 04:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome, and thank you for incorporating them into the bibliography page as well. Best wishes with editing. Chattel slavery in U. S. history is a tough but important topic. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverting edits that remove bold from first sentence

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Hi Hydrangeans, I notice that you have now twice reverted edits to the article Remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington, by me and by User:Surtsicna, that removed bolding from the phrase "remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington" in the first sentence.

The main reason that I feel that the boldface is not appropriate here is that "remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington" is merely a descriptive phrase that happens to be used for the Wikipedia article title; it is not, as far as I am aware, an official title of the speech or even a commonly accepted name for the speech. Putting this phrase in bold gives undue weight to this particular phrase, when in fact it is just one of many possible descriptive phrases that might be used to refer to this speech.

WP:SBE agrees with this point of view:

It also gives undue weight to the chosen title, implying that it is an official term, commonly accepted name, or the only acceptable title; in actuality, it is just a description and the event or topic is given many different names in common usage ... In the case of purely descriptive titles, we should not bold the article title in the introduction ...

I am going to restore Surtsicna's version because I think it reads more naturally and in fact provides greater context in the first sentence by providing a link to Islamic Center of Washington, which cannot be done if that phrase is put in bold (see MOS:BOLDLINKAVOID). —Bkell (talk) 01:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

merely a descriptive phrase that happens to be used for the Wikipedia article title; it is not, as far as I am aware, an official title of the speech or even a commonly accepted name for the speech: This is a misunderstanding. While it was not an official title, it is a commonly accepted name of reference for the speech, similar to names like the Cooper Union speech or the Des Moines speech, also not official titles which are nevertheless common terms of reference for those speeches. If you search the phrase "remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington", you will see that an overwhelming majority of hits are for George W. Bush's 2001 speech.
Also see the following sources, which all call this specific speech remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington:
  • al-Rahim, Ahmed H. (2016). "Islam and the White House: American Presidential Discourse on Establishing Official Islam, 1993–2013". Middle East Journal of Culture and Communication. 9 (1): 87–122. doi:10.1163/18739865-00901008. ISSN 1873-9857.
  • Ching, Bruce (2020). "Echoes of 9/11: Rhetorical Analysis of Presidential Statements in the 'War on Terror'". Seton Hall Law Review. 51: 431–459.
  • "Remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington", American Presidency Project
  • "U.S. Presidential Visits to Domestic Mosques", White House Historical Association
  • "George W. Bush Needs to Speak to His Party", Slate (November 20, 2015)
  • "Trump's Proposal to Keep Out Muslims Crosses a Line for Many in Both Parties", Washington Post (December 8, 2015)
As such, remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington is not a "purely descriptive title". It is a widely accepted name for the subject. Since the un-bolding was based on a well-meaning mistake, I have restored the bolding in keeping with MOS:FIRST: If an article's title is a formal or widely accepted name for the subject, display it in bold as early as possible in the first sentence.
As for a link to Islamic Center of Washington, that is visibly provided in the infobox directly adjacent to the first paragraph, so I don't think a reader is left wanting for such a link. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 03:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good! Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize that this phrase was widely used as a name for the speech (that isn't indicated anywhere in the article).
It might be worth considering whether the first sentence can present this phrase more clearly as a name for the speech. As it is, the sentence is using the phrase merely as a description. Compare other articles like We shall fight on the beaches, I Have a Dream, and Cross of Gold speech, in which the title is presented clearly as a name for the speech in the first sentence. —Bkell (talk) 04:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For instance, what do you think about phrasing the first sentence something like this?

The remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington, also called "Islam Is Peace", was a speech delivered by George W. Bush, then president of the United States, on September 17, 2001, six days after al-Qaeda's September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The references you have cited for this name could be attached to the phrase "remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington" here to demonstrate its use as a commonly accepted name. I think phrasing it this way more clearly positions the phrase "remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington" as a name for the speech, rather than simply a description. —Bkell (talk) 04:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be fine with that revision. I thought that trying to put the title at the beginning of the sentence was less natural than the end—so that context can come before the name—but if you think having the title appear sooner is more natural, I do not object. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 19:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bkell, Hydrangeans, it is not true that the term "remarks at the Islamic Center of Washington" constitutes the proper name for the event. This discussion should be held at the article talk page, however, where another user has already raised the issue. Surtsicna (talk) 09:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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