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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 March 2024

Ye's father Ray West is not mentioned in the parents section Cezy1409 (talk) 19:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 08:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:52, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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Created by YrMydriayWiki (talk). Self-nominated at 18:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kanye West; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Hi YrMydriayWiki - welcome to Wikipedia! I'm not sure if you looked through the criteria for a nomination, but this article doesn't meet them: it's not new, and we need a citation for the hook, so I have to fail it. Please check out the Teahouse if you have any questions about how the site works/if you need help! Kind regards,  Frzzl  talk; contribs  18:45, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 March 2024

Add "artist" to the opening sentence describing him. Kanye West is the greatest artist of the 21st century. FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 01:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See MOS:ROLEBIO. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2024

can you add this text to the "fashion" section in other ventures

Following the termination of the Gap and Adidas collaborations Ye appeared on multiple podcasts doing interviews, blaming Gap and Adidas for not reaching the affordable price points he wanted.On December 13, 2023, he named Gosha Rubchinskiy as Head of Design at Yeezy via X, Formerly known as Twitter.. During mid-December a small selection of items were available on the yeezy.com website for varying prices. Then, on February 14, 2024, the price of all items was dropped to USD$20.

Following this, On February 22, 2024, West released several items from his terminated Yeezy Gap collaboration on the yeezy.com website in Europe only, seemingly without permission from Gap. On the same day, he premiered a Super Bowl advertisement for the website, which was a low budget phone recording of West speaking in his car. Shrub4TheDub (talk) 23:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2024

can you add this text to the "fashion" section in other ventures

Following the termination of the Gap and Adidas collaborations Ye appeared on multiple podcasts doing interviews, blaming Gap and Adidas for not reaching the affordable price points he wanted.On December 13, 2023, he named Gosha Rubchinskiy as Head of Design at Yeezy via X, Formerly known as Twitter.. During mid-December a small selection of items were available on the yeezy.com website for varying prices. Then, on February 14, 2024, the price of all items was dropped to USD$20.

Following this, On February 22, 2024, West released several items from his terminated Yeezy Gap collaboration on the yeezy.com website in Europe only, seemingly without permission from Gap. On the same day, he premiered a Super Bowl advertisement for the website, which was a low budget phone recording of West speaking in his car. Shrub4TheDub (talk) 23:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Grammy Award Record

The first paragraph currently says "West has won 24 Grammy Awards, the joint tenth-most of all time". However, I believe it's actually the joint eleventh-most of all time, according to the cited list. Abhatt349 (talk) 06:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I think it's been corrected. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 17:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

YE

just like everyone else, Ye has the right to self-determination. Kanye West is a slave name, and should only be refrenced once in the opening line. the page should be changed to Ye (Artist) with all refrences to "Kanye" or "West" being replaced with "Ye". thank you. Shrub4TheDub (talk) 23:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Please see WP:COMMONNAME. Lunaroxas (talk) 18:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Please reverse this as it was before

The following should be in the legal problems section and not at the top of the page after his name and what he does for a living.

"A subject of widespread controversy and public interest, West is a central figure in contemporary pop culture."

The following paragraph was in the introduction and should stay in the introduction and nowhere else.

"One of the world's best-selling music artists with 160 million records sold, West has won 24 Grammy Awards, the joint 11th-most of all time and most awarded for any hip hop artist jointly with Jay-Z. His other accolades include a Billboard Artist Achievement Award, a joint-record three Brit Awards for Best International Male Solo Artist, and the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award."

Please reverse this, there's no reason for the change. PolishGeico (talk) 15:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Not sure if the sentence added by 750h+ is well-supported by the article body as written ie doesn't approach WP:SYNTH. If it is, I don't see a reason to remove it from the first paragraph. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 17:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm just saying can someone put it in the legal problems instead of the first paragraph? No one needs to get rid of it, just move it to the legal problems. If not, please give me access and I can do it myself.

Thanks. PolishGeico (talk) 19:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Being "a subject of widespread controversy and public interest" is not a legal issue. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 19:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

It's almost exactly the same as the Taylor Swift article. He is a subject of widespread controversy and public interest, and he is a central figure in contemporary music. And PolishGeico, since when was his awards supposed to stay in the lead? That was never a rule, was it? Also its an extended confirmed article, you yourself cannot edit it, but you can request.  750h+ | Talk  07:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Addition to legal problems

Los Angeles Police Department identified Ye as a suspect in a battery incident that happened on April 17. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-say-are-looking-whether-rapper-ye-was-involved-alleged-battery-rcna148426 Cadiannnn (talk) 01:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Whoever adds it, please include that the suspect was the other man and not Ye. Don't get it twisted. PolishGeico (talk) 07:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Kanye's claim to Godhood

It might be worth mentioning that Kanye has recently declared himself to be a god (and later, THE God in a more monotheist approach) and that he has problems with his self-proclaimed faith. I figured it might be worth mentioning since a celebrity claiming to be a literal deity, which is not a very orthodox approach to any faith, let alone Christianity, is at the very least: notable enough to mention. I've never really cared for Kanye which is why I'm feeling a tiny bit too lazy to mention his ludicrous godhood claims and cite the appropriate sources needed to verify he made such remarkable claims. MountainJew6150 (talk) 03:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2024

I suggest changing the sentence below:

One of the world's best-selling music artists with 160 million records sold, West has won 24 Grammy Awards, the joint 11th-most of all time and most awarded for any hip hop artist jointly with Jay-Z.

to say "... most awarded for any hip hop artist along with Jay-Z" at the end of the sentence, for the sole reason that it reads slightly better. The word "joint" is used earlier in the sentence and redundancy should generally be avoided when it is unnecessary. 2607:F470:6:4001:EC5B:5A0E:3B0D:4C2B (talk) 05:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 08:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 May 2024

Change the link in the word "memes" in the part that talks about Kanye West and Taylor Swift in 2009 from the article "Meme" to "Internet meme". Swissairproud001 (talk) 01:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 19:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Tinley Park

Kanye and his mother Donda moved to Tinley Park, IL in 1981 when Kanye was 3.

Proof: https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/find/person/pxr8ru469084nll9n80l9 2600:1702:3E1:4940:74AC:88F9:79D6:1A59 (talk) 23:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 May 2024

can you add this text to the "fashion" section in other ventures

Following the termination of the Gap and Adidas collaborations Ye appeared on multiple podcasts doing interviews, blaming Gap and Adidas for not reaching the affordable price points he wanted.On December 13, 2023, he named Gosha Rubchinskiy as Head of Design at Yeezy via X, Formerly known as Twitter.. During mid-December a small selection of items were available on the yeezy.com website for varying prices. Then, on February 14, 2024, the price of all items was dropped to USD$20.

Following this, On February 22, 2024, West released several items from his terminated Yeezy Gap collaboration on the yeezy.com website in Europe only, seemingly without permission from Gap. On the same day, he premiered a Super Bowl advertisement for the website, which was a low budget phone recording of West speaking in his car. —originally: Shrub4TheDub (talk) 23:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

References

 Not done: The first paragraph especially strikes me as out of scope for this particular article, but could be added to Yeezy (brand). Regarding the second paragraph, the fact that he kept selling products licensed by Gap without their permission is not mentioned in the HipHopDX article. Full disclosure: This edit request was previously archived without receiving a response. I restored a copy of it along with the original editor's signature. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 20:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 July 2024

change late regristration (2006) to late regristration (2005) Saaaaur (talk) 14:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done I believe this is in reference to the lead. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 18:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Name within the article

I'm not asking about the article title, I agree that it should remain as is under WP:COMMONNAME. But this policy clearly applies only to the title and not to the name used in the body of the article. Given that the first sentence already introduces him as "Ye", I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be referred to as such throughout the rest of the article, i.e. "Ye is ..." as opposed to "West is ...". Especially because he specifically objects to being referred to as West. WP:DEADNAME is intended for transgender people but not applying the same rule here seems like a double standard in my opinion. 49.182.172.173 (talk) 11:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I agree. If the article respects the change of his legal and personal name enough to introduce him as such in the lead sentence, it seems fairly uncontroversial to refer to him as Ye throughout. BoldGnome (talk) 11:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

MOS:SURNAME says: When a majority of reliable secondary sources refer to persons by a pseudonym, they should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames. Kanye West is his de facto pseudonym since a majority of RS still use it. Less importantly, he still uses the name on all major streaming services, see Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Music, YouTube Music, Deezer, and Pandora. He's released music under the name as recently as February of this year. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 14:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

This seems like a strange inversion of that policy. It is essentially saying that you should refer to someone by their preferred alias if a sufficient quantity of RSes do so (as opposed to their real name), but you are kind of stretching it to say that actually, "Kanye West" is his pseudonym... Which is technically true now, but that obviously isn't what the policy has in mind. I suppose For people well known by one-word names, nicknames, or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally use the legal surname appears to support the status quo, but the key word here is "legal" and now that he has changed his name legally that can't be used as a justification. 49.182.172.173 (talk) 05:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

The line you cite pertains to legal surnames; "Ye" is a mononym. Generally speaking, we do what RS reflect over what the subject wants. When in doubt, we go with RS unless there are very clear exceptions carved out. There aren't here, so there's no reason to deviate. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 07:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

the problem with this argument is that it is not a "pseduonym" anymore. this is a legal name change, not a pseudonym. Daddyelectrolux (talk) 05:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Cultural impact of Kanye West - part 2

I discussed this idea several months ago and created a draft for it with the sources found in the discussion. I'm leaving it to the Yeditors in case anyone wants to pick it up and add info from the sources, and find more if needed. Draft: here. PantheonRadiance (talk) 03:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2024

Should the allegations by former Yeezy chief of staff Milo Yiannopolous that Kanye is addicted to nitrous gas, as covered in numerous third-party news sources, be included somewhere in the article?

Obviously Milo is a dubious source, but the claims have made the rounds in news media sources so it might warrant inclusion. Coalah (talk) 23:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, these allegations have not been picked up by any mainstream reliable sources but rather tabloids. Per WP:PUBLICFIGURE, such allegations should only be included if covered by a multitude of reliable sources. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 16:25, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Please update the "2023–present: Vultures trilogy and Y3" section

Ye has since denied working on an album titled Y3.

Sources:

https://hiphopdx.com/news/kanye-west-y3-album-erick-sermon

https://www.xxlmag.com/kanye-west-denies-y3-solo-album-dropping/

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/769387-kanye-west-shuts-down-solo-album-rumors-hip-hop-news CarbonLollipop (talk) 23:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done [1] Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 09:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 August 2024

I want to add in Kanye's alleged nitro addiction, said by his former chief of staff, Milo Yiannopoulos, in the mental health section on Personal Life. Source: https://www.vibe.com/news/entertainment/kanye-west-chief-of-staff-nitrous-oxide-1234903939/ Junichsen (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Relying on a statement by Milo is... problematic, to say the least – macaddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 15:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I do have 2 more sources ( https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/834067-kanye-west-asks-dentist-nitrous-gas-troubling-text-exchange-hip-hop-news and https://pagesix.com/2024/08/15/entertainment/kanye-west-employee-shares-texts-of-rapper-asking-for-nitrous-gas/ ) but it leads back to Milo. I guess you can say "In 2024, Milo has said that Kanye is allegedly on a nitro addiction by his dentist." Junichsen (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)