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Lacking critical information

It says she is transgender and also female but we are lacking critical information. Was she born male and now identifies as female or born female and now identifies as male? Big difference. Nate Hooper (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article refers to her as a trans woman. Clicking the link, which is included in the article, should tell you what that means. Rab V (talk) 21:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Id like to know as well 35.129.25.198 (talk) 11:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

it's very clear and unambiguous what her gender is from the article. any claim to the contrary is disingenuous and I suspect coming from a place of transphobia. 98.116.173.242 (talk) 13:13, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace claim

I'm really not seeing any reliable sources for the specific claim that Schafer was born in Raleigh, as opposed to just living there with her family for several years. The source cited in that part of the article does not explicitly claim this. Here's what I do see among sources that are potentially above the "copying-from-Wikipedia" level of reliability:

"Born in Trenton, New Jersey" - Cosmopolitan [1]
"Her father was a pastor and the family moved between congregations in New Jersey and Arizona before eventually settling in North Carolina." - Allure [2]
"I'm from Trenton, New Jersey" - FORGE. Art Magazine [3]

If nobody can come up with a reliable source for the specific claim that Schafer was born in Raleigh, I think it would make sense to at least remove that. I might do so a little later, but I wanted to explain my reasoning, give an opportunity for others to respond, and start a discussion that could be referenced for purposes of getting this claim removed, changed, and/or better-referenced across all language editions and Wikidata. --Jamie7687 (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to put Trenton, then. Trillfendi (talk) 15:28, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Birthdate claim

Seeing lots of back and forth edits on the birthdate. Can editors discuss this issue on the talk page? Rab V (talk) 01:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

She confirmed her birthdate on her instagram as December 31, 1998 (she said she turned 22, making her birth-year 1998 not 1999.) I guess people are confused depending on their timezone/country. OurSmilingGirl97 (talk) 13:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rab V: People who came here from a photo and don’t know the rules and policies of Wikipedia are not understanding and this is how we run into problems like this. And this is also why IP users are blocked from editing the page for now. It doesn’t matter that her Instagram caption said 22 🦋 (as of three days ago), no date of birth was given and Instagram is not a reliable source. These are the same people who assumed, without any evidence that she was born in 1999, based on the same app by skulking her relatives. Vogue is out here thinking she just turned 21. Now it’s officially age controversy, exactly what we were trying to avoid. Trillfendi (talk) 14:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Would Schafer's instagram fall under WP:BLPSELFPUB as a usable primary source? I thought that covered BLPs social media posts for claims about themselves but maybe I'm wrong. 19:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Rab V (talk)

Though I guess since Vogue contradicts her on age maybe the insta source isn't usable. Rab V (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

Hunter's birthday is on December 31, 1999 . She posted a picture on Instagram, dated on 4 January 2021, claiming her birthday was 3 days ago, dating back to 31 December 1999. I'm confused because if she turned 22 in 2020, she would've been born in 1998. The link to the Instagram post is here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJmkEF4Fg5Q/?igshid=1gbhumn1e95yg Nidamaya (talk) 13:27, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Please correct "transmedicalist activist"

Schafer isn't a trans activist, she only advocates for trans medicalism and has repeatedly doubled-down on attacking agender and nonbinary people. Schafer is transgender and an activist, but she is not simply a "transgender activist" It's like calling rowling a "feminist" it leave out a lot of important information and biased thecreader to believe things that aren't true talonx 77.191.144.194 (talk) 08:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Transmedicalist activist" is not stated anywhere on the article. The statements regarding these issues are reliably sourced and due weight is given. There is no accusation or bias; the facts are summarized quite properly. It is not the purpose of Wikipedia to support or suppress any information about a subject; we summarize what is known and noteworthy from reliable sources. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 08:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

Personal life section is too long. There are really unnecessary information about her liking and commenting on instagram posts, etc.

A personal life section should just include quick facts about sexuality and dating history. Aminabzz (talk) 00:02, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformation

Born male or not? 35.129.25.198 (talk) 11:22, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very small career, is this even notable?

Very small career to date. Surely this doesn't meet notability standards? If we continue in this direction, 99% of Wikipedia will be entertainment industry. Tallard (talk) 06:06, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

According to the lead of WP:NBIO; I'd say so. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 12:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a typo in the second paragraph of the "Early Life" section.

Change "Schafer has said she strated...." to "Schafer has said she started....." Le79 (talk) 19:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done RudolfRed (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest in Personal life

She protested for the ceasefire in the palestinian genocide, not for th "Israeli-Hamas war". It's a genocide, not a war. 193.207.171.216 (talk) 09:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about Hamas trying to genocide Jews on Oct. 7? This is a really confusing comment. 173.67.29.108 (talk) 04:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change “Israel-Hamas war” to “Israel’s occupation and genocide of Palestinians” 2604:3D09:347F:6C00:A4D2:A25D:A217:315D (talk) 19:39, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Jamedeus (talk) 23:54, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early life - school years vs age

All the ages presented in this section refer to Hunter's school year which is not self-explanatory to readers unfamiliar with the American schooling system. 160.33.161.210 (talk) 19:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change to wording

I think her motivation (and that of the demonstrators) is disputed. She was not “advocating for a ceasefire,” that would imply pressuring (or at least asking) Hamas terrorists to release hostages. Many are of the opinion that these demonstrations are advocating for Hamas and I believe simply labeling it “Pro-Palestinian” is controversial. I think adding the word “alleged” is more neutral. 173.67.29.108 (talk) 04:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has policies regarding our writing a summary of what reliable sources say, maintaining a neutral point of view and not engaging in original research; combined these equate to meaning that what we think rarely if ever matters. See Wikipedia's policies regarding Biographies of Living Persons for a more. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 11:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should rephrase what I wrote. It is not that I think “pro-Palestinian” and “ceasefire” protestors’ motivations are disputed, but these protestors’ motivation is commonly questioned as being pro-Hamas and antisemitic. Adding the word “allegedly” certainly does not violate Wikipedia’s neutrality policy, and on the contrary would make the statement more neutral for the many who think these protests do support Hamas and are antisemitic. 173.67.29.108 (talk) 13:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo correction

In the "Career" section, Girl in Red's song hornylovesickmess is mentioned, but spelled incorrectly as "Hornylovesickness" Jamed042 (talk) 19:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. I corrected it.--MattMauler (talk) 19:58, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Actor. Not actress. 64.255.144.138 (talk) 17:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done See MOS:GENDERID and take your transphobia elsewhere. 331dot (talk) 18:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]