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On 18 September 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Green Lane Hospital. The result of the discussion was Not moved.

Requested move 18 September 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Disambiguate both. (That is, consensus for Green Lane Hospital, Auckland and Green Lane Hospital, Wiltshire with the disambiguation page at Green Lane Hospital.) (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 08:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

– The Auckland hospital seems to have more significance than the one in Wiltshire and receives more views. The Auckland hospital is over a century old whilst the Wiltshire one is barely three decades old. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE age does not automatically confer notability. Both hospitals are clearly important in their geographical area, so the move earlier today to fully-qualified geographic article names together with a disambiguation page is definitely the right way to go. 10mmsocket (talk) 11:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify I did not see that the earlier move was undiscussed. I think that the whole thing should be reset to how it was before any further discussion takes place. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:46, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can undo that if you want but I fail to see how the Wiltshire one can be primary, it fails in every metric we use to determine primacy: views and long term significance. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that Green Lane in Auckland is by far the more significant of the two Green Lanes based on its medical history and contribution to cardiac surgery I think it's fine to leave the two hospitals with geographic qualifiers and the disambiguation page. --Gertrude206 (talk) 19:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Auckland as primary per the arguments of others, but note that in order for this to be a valid RM, Green Lane Hospital -> Green Lane Hospital, Wiltshire needs to be added as a second page onto this RM. Bensci54 (talk) 16:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Natg 19 (talk) 17:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural note: the move of Green Lane Hospital to Green Lane Hospital, Wiltshire was reverted by User:Robertsky and the dab page moved to Green Lane Hospital (disambiguation), in favor of making this a multi-page move request. Natg 19 (talk) 17:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 1st, support 2nd. The base name should be a disambiguation page, I don't see a clear primary topic here. While it isn't the Wiltshire one, it also doesn't appear to be Auckland. — Amakuru (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 1st, support 2nd. I agree with Amakuru here. If we have pages for two hospitals named "Green Lane Hospital", then "Green Lane Hospital" should be a disambiguation page, with the UK hospital's page moved to "Green Lane Hospital, Wiltshire". Neither hospital seems overwhelmingly more notable enough to deserve the name "Green Lane Hospital" by itself. PatricKiwi (talk) 12:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Hospitals, WikiProject Auckland, and ealand Wikipedians' notice board have been notified of this discussion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 2nd, the NZ one has 239 views but the English one only has 179[[1]] but given PT swaps can cause problems a DAB probably makes most sense. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:42, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Auckland hospital is clearly more significant in terms of its long term impact as the only provider of congenital cardiac services to all of New Zealand (and several countries in the South Pacific). However, that doesn't make it the primary article with the title "Green Lane Hospital". For consistency in article naming, the Wiltshire article should be moved to match and then a DAB created. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose 1st, support 2nd. I agree with Amakuru. There should be a DAB "Green Lane Hospital", and the individual pages should be "Green Lane Hospital, Auckland", and "Green Lane Hospital, Wiltshire". There is no rational basis for calling one or other article the primary. Both pages have between 200 and 350 recent views. There is no reason to think either page will be more or less interesting in future. Kbwc56 (talk) 03:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.