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Date	Process	Result
January 2, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
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October 13, 2008	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
July 28, 2021	Good article reassessment	Delisted
September 2, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 14, 2022. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the working title of Alien was Star Beast?
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Alien (film)

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Result: Delisted Multiple citation needed tags still present. A bit of a shame as these could have been fixed relatively easily. Still it has been open for three months now and more than enough time has passed Aircorn (talk) 18:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2008 promotion that has seen better days. Although many parts are exquisitely detailed, there are dozens of citation needed tags (including one in the lead) that need to be addressed. I recently made some edits myself regarding extra references in the lead and infobox, but I can't assist anywhere else. I feel the dozens of tags are sufficient enough to nominate for reassessment. – zmbro _(talk) 19:46, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now there are 14. I am not going to work on this article myself but am curious to know whether if all the remaining uncited sentences were removed it would still rate as "good"?Chidgk1 (talk) 18:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you ready to close this zmbro Aircorn (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aircorn Yep go ahead. – zmbro _(talk) 18:17, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I thought it was an individual reassessment. I can close this then. Aircorn (talk) 18:20, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk) 22:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the working title of Alien was Star Beast? Source: ^[1]
- ALT1: ... that Alien was made into a high school play by students at North Bergen High School? Source: ^[2]
- ALT2: ... that Alien has been called a "rape movie with male victims"? Source: ^[3]
- ALT3: ... that while filming the 'chestburster scene' in Alien one actor found it so shocking they fell over and went into hysterics? Source: ^[4]
- Reviewed:

Improved to Good Article status by Lankyant (talk). Self-nominated at 11:24, 2 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Promoted to GA status on 9/2. Long enough and appears policy compliant. My attempt to run an Earwig check was unsuccessful (the results would not load) but my spot-checking didn't detect anything nefarious. (If someone else can get earwig to run, that would be great.) The proposed hooks are interesting/hooky and are short enough. Certain of the sources are books that are not available for my online verification, but they are accepted in good faith. This is the nominator's second DYK and so no QPQ is required. Cbl62 (talk) 13:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig flags a potential violation, but they're all direct quotes and presented as such within the article. CSJJ104 (talk) 22:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Scanlon, Paul; Cross, Michael (1979). The Book of Alien. London: Titan Books. ISBN 1-85286-483-4.
^ Sharf, Zack (March 28, 2019). "Ridley Scott Praises Students for 'Alien' Stage Show, Offers Funds for Encore Performance". Archived from the original on April 7, 2019. Retrieved April 8, 2020.
^ McIntee, David (2005). Beautiful Monsters: The Unofficial and Unauthorized Guide to the Alien and Predator Films. Surrey: Telos Publishing. p. 48. ISBN 1-903889-94-4.
^ McIntee, David (2005). Beautiful Monsters: The Unofficial and Unauthorized Guide to the Alien and Predator Films. Surrey: Telos Publishing. p. 32. ISBN 1-903889-94-4.

Error

According to the article:

"Following company policy to investigate any potential distress signal, they land on the moon"

But according to the movie:

"Any systematised transmission indicating intelligent origin must be investigated..."

Doesn't matter if it's a distress call or not. Dornwald (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article text corrected accordingly. --ToaneeM (talk) 23:19, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:ToaneeM Thanks!

Actually it's ""Any systematised transmission indicating a possible intelligent origin must be investigated."

The transcript i quoted was slightly off, "a possible" should be added. Dornwald (talk) 00:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did try to find that section of the film to get it right. The plot summary should be as succinct as possible while remaining unambiguous and this was quite wordy. But alternative wordings of it are just as lengthy and this article's plot gets toyed with far too much as it is, so the real one's easiest. Thanks.ToaneeM (talk) 12:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greatest film in its genre or all-time?

This has confused me over the years. I'm curious about what makes a film like The Silence of the Lambs (film) mentioned as "one of the greatest and most influential films" (which I don't disagree personally, it's a great movie) vs. a film like Alien listed as just "one of the greatest and most influential science fiction and horror films of all time." It's a nickpick for sure, but I wanted to ask. Cahlin29 (talk) 07:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar Error

When Ripley is using the computer, the computer spits out "...insure the return of the organism...". This should have been "...ensure return of the organism". 70.161.8.90 (talk) 21:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is what is on screen and despite what you may think it is actually correct. Ensure means to make sure certain or safe. However insure means to actively take measures to make something happen, it stresses the necessity of taking action. Insure carries a lot more weight here and is the word that allows Ash to do whatever he deems necessary, whereas ensure doesn't carry the same meaning. Canterbury Tail talk 12:18, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Scanlon, Paul; Cross, Michael (1979). The Book of Alien. London: Titan Books. ISBN 1-85286-483-4.

[2] Sharf, Zack (March 28, 2019). "Ridley Scott Praises Students for 'Alien' Stage Show, Offers Funds for Encore Performance". Archived from the original on April 7, 2019. Retrieved April 8, 2020.

[3] McIntee, David (2005). Beautiful Monsters: The Unofficial and Unauthorized Guide to the Alien and Predator Films. Surrey: Telos Publishing. p. 48. ISBN 1-903889-94-4.

[4] McIntee, David (2005). Beautiful Monsters: The Unofficial and Unauthorized Guide to the Alien and Predator Films. Surrey: Telos Publishing. p. 32. ISBN 1-903889-94-4.

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