Talk:A New World (The Flash)
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Bad article
[edit]This article shouldn't even be created. We don't usually create an article about 4 episodes. These weren't released together and aren't any different than any other Flash storyline. Gonnym (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Gorrila City, Crisis, Invasion. Its not just a four part event its the finale of the Arrowverse as a whole, OLI 20:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- There also literaly titled parts 1-4 OLI 03:26, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: It took me 2 years to make this joke but... Quite the opposite actually Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I still think that these kind of articles are horrible. Gonnym (talk) 18:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Main space?
[edit]Its ready for the main space in my opinion. Although it could still use some critique to work out. OLI 04:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:34, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- ... that The Flash's "A New World" is the conclusion to the Arrowverse which lasted eleven years? Source: https://thedirect.com/article/arrowverse-finale-the-cw
- Reviewed:
Created by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 31 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/A New World (The Flash); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Was created in the last 7 days: No.Was expanded fivefold in the last 7 days: No.- It came to my attention that the article was made in May, and was new enough at the time of nomination, my bad.
- Hook could be improved; this page says to avoid hooks that take the form of "... that X is Y?"
The article seems fine, but the hook could use some work to be more interesting and not fit the "X is Y" mold. I'm not sure if the nominator needs to do QPQ or not because I don't know how many noms they've done. This is my first time reviewing a DYK nomination, so if I made a mistake, please let me know. Di (they-them) (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): QPQ checker suggests that they have no prior DYK nominations, so a QPQ is not required. I can take a look and suggest a new hook if you want. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:01, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- ... ALT0a: that The Flash's "A New World" served as the conclusion to the Arrowverse a television franchise that lasted eleven years? Source: https://thedirect.com/article/arrowverse-finale-the-cw
- Reviewed: Better hook, works now. Di (they-them) (talk) 04:12, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- I do apologize, but a full review of the nomination has yet to be done. In addition to not doing all the checks apart from newness (so length, plagiarism, etc.), there also has yet to be a full review of the hook apart from interest. How it is presented in the article and the sourcing for it also needs to be checked. Finally, I disagree that the new hook is interesting to a broad audience: it doesn't really say much about the subject, and honestly just saying that it's the conclusion to a series seems rather pedestrian by hook standards. Being not too familiar with the series, I'm unable to give suggestions, but surely there's a better hook that can be used based on the article? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- As Di didn't respond to the above, another editor will probably be needed to complete the review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, OK sourcing, no huge issues with tone after copyedit. Earwig only shows stealing from Wikipedia. Suggestions for improvement: The critical reception section is pretty bare bones if you care to expand it; and since there's time travel involved, should the plot summary begin (e.g.) "In 2023, ..."? I have only name familiarity with the Arrowverse but think the hook is interesting enough as is – the TV series finale as the conclusion of a multi-series universe. That said, I'd tighten up the phrasing:
- ALT0b: ... that The Flash's "A New World" concluded the eleven-year Arrowverse television franchise?
- @Narutolovehinata5, proposing this alternate hook as well:
- ALT1: ... that episodes of Angel, Lost, and The Office inspired the writer of The Flash series finale?
- Source: "Before sitting down to even conceptualize and write this, I watched a whole bunch of series finales, and I'll tell you the ones I loved and used as inspiration: Lost, Angel, and The Office, ironically" Hameltion (talk | contribs) 13:39, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5, I think that this hook is nice and a good way to slim it down. I will work on improving the article. As the original proposerof the hook I agree with this one. OLI` — Preceding undated comment added 01:37, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: OlifanofmrTennant (talk · contribs) 09:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Vestrian24Bio (talk · contribs) 08:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi! I will be reviewing this article, expect the initial remarks soon! Vestrian24Bio 08:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- EARWIG shows 13.0% - violations unlikely.
- According to link-dispenser,
- 2 refs need archive links.
- References are looking perfect!
- Isn't there any kind of promotional poster available...?
- I would suggest including all 4 episode-posters in the infobox using
{{Multiple image | border = infobox}}
template.- Only part 4 had a poster, its been added.
- I would suggest including all 4 episode-posters in the infobox using
Vestrian24Bio 09:19, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Add featured music (
|music=
) and runtime (|length=
) to the infobox. Done - Add alt text to the infobox image. Done
- In the guest appearances part, mention which part they appeared in. Not done
- The list is too long to comfortably do that, some appeared in multiple and some doubled up on characters.
- The page is in categories Pages using infobox television episode with incorrectly formatted values and Pages using infobox television episode with unnecessary list markup - Some parameters (
|director=
,|writer=
,|story=
,|teleplay=
,|narrator=
,|presenter=
,|music=
,|photographer=
,|editor=
,|production=
,|release_date=
, and|airdate=
) have a pre-defined plainlist formatting, they don't need the template {{Plainlist}} again - fix it. Done - In the first sentence
American superhero television series
Done - Include that this is the ninth graphic novel in the series.
- Split the first sentence after
... series The Flash.
. Done - Add the overall episode count in the series to the remaining sentence Done
- Move
The series centers on Barry Allen / The Flash, a crime-scene investigator who gains superhuman speed which he uses to fight criminals, including others who also have superhuman abilities.
to the end of the first paragraph and maybe add a premise of the finale. Done - Add summaries of development, filming, viewership and reception to the lead section. Done
- What are the titles (Reunions, The Blues, Changes and Finale) in the plot section...?
- The subtitle for the episode
Vestrian24Bio 07:36, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- No need for a full stop in the infobox image caption as its not a proper sentence. Done
- In part 4, link to Cobalt Blue (Arrowverse) instead.
- Removed link as Eddie is already linked and Cobalt Blue (Arrowverse) takes you to the same section
- In the "Development and filming" section, link Negative, Part Two. Done
- Along with
six days before wrapping
andshutting down one day before
, can't the relevant dates be added to it.- Gustin didn't reveal the dates only the timeframes
- Link to Speed Force (Arrowverse) and Negative Speed Force in the "Devising endings" section. Done
- Change all links of Speed Force to Speed Force (Arrowverse). (infobox & part two) Done
- In the "Character returns and callbacks to past seasons" section,
In addition, the primary antagonists of seasons ...
. Done - In the "Casting" section,
- Can't there be more images (at least the returning antagonists - a and Karan Oberoi (if available)). Done
- No need for a ref on the image caption. Also, it should have a specific alt text. Done
- Grant Gustin should be linked as its a distinct sub-section. Same for Oliver Queen / Green Arrow / The Spectre also.
- Link to Caitlin Snow (Arrowverse) instead. Done
- Link Eddie Thawne / Cobalt Blue as whole. Done
- Create a link to Henry Allen (Arrowverse). Done
- In the 3rd paragraph
Karan Oberoi.
- there's a full stop instead of a comma. Done
- Throughout the article both Hunter Zolomon (Arrowverse) and Zoom (Arrowverse) are used, only use any one of them at all occasions to be consistent. Done
- In the lead instead of 430 thousand viewers, just say 430,000 viewers. Done
- Add author's first and last names to ref 42. Done
Writing for Den of Geek
- who wrote... (mention Lacy Baugher) Done- Format the last part as following, Done
== References == === Notes === {{notelist}} === Citations === {{reflist}} == External links ==
- The page is still on the Category:Pages using infobox television episode with incorrectly formatted values - fix that. Done
@OlifanofmrTennant: That's all. Vestrian24Bio 13:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vestrian24Bio: done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:23, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- What's the reason for moving Cosnett's image, it seems irrelevant to the section. Vestrian24Bio 06:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- Source spot-check: pass
All else good, passing for GA. Vestrian24Bio 07:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
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