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I've listed this article for peer review because I am curious about whether or not it has FA potential. Normally, I would be bold and nominate it for FAC after my current one is done, but the the last time I tried to take a song article to FAC, I bit off more than I could chew and it blew up in my face. It would be nice if a similar situation could be avoided.

Thanks, λ NegativeMP1 08:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @NegativeMP1! My minor points would be adding alt captions for images and captions for the audio sample. Btw, is it Jeff Citron or Cirton? RFNirmala (talk) 11:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's Citron, so I've made it more consistent now. I've also added alt text to the image and captions to the audio. λ NegativeMP1 20:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments from dxneo

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Please let me know if you disagree with my suggestions, open for discussion.

  • "The song was produced by the bands front man Gerard Way with assistance from Ray Toro and Doug McKean." — according to Apple Music and personnel, there are no assistant or co-producers.
    • Reworded.
  • "Way wrote the song with assistance from the rest of the band." — again, they are all credited as songwriters (and yes, I noticed the lyricist). Lyricist + composer = songwriter, so it doesn't make that much of a difference.
    • Rewrote.
  • I think it's better to replace ref8 (Spotify) with Apple Music since it's Spotify is highlighted red and Apple Music is green. Not necessary tho.
    • I actually agree, since Spotify links are harder to verify information from. As in, Apple Music lets you see more details, and doesn't require you to sign in.
  • "It was released as a single on May 12, 2022 through Reprise Records without any prior announcement" ===> It was released on May 12, 2022, by Reprise Records without any prior announcement.
    • Don't forget the links since it was a surprise release.
      • Done.
  • Replace "released through" with "released by". Never actually understood what it meant to be "released through". Taking reference from FAs like "Bad Blood" and Red.
    • Done.
  • Ref25, |magazine= is not wiki linked.
    • Fixed.

I think I'll just rewrite the personnel for you. You'll let me know if don't like it. dxneo (talk) 01:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing and rewriting the personnel section. Everything looks good to me, and I've also addressed everything above. λ NegativeMP1 05:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CatchMe

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  • Since "without any prior announcement" is a bit large link, I would just say "It was suprise-released as a single on May 12, 2022, by Reprise Records".
  • Don't forget to change "bands" to "band's" in lead and Commercial performance. There's also two "songs" that should be "song's" instead.
  • Why isn't mentioned in the lead that the band wrote the song?
  • In the lead, change "keyboard" to "keyboards" for consistency with Personnel.
  • Try replacing the two "like" with "such as" or "including" etc.
  • "the song made its live debut" - Shouldn't be "the band debuted it.."?
  • "It also reached 132" - add "number".
  • Add WP:FALSETITLE in Background and production as you did in the lead.
  • "Jeff Citron did the mixing and Mike Bozzi did the mastering" - "Jeff Citron mixed it and Mike Bozzi mastered it" would work better imo. Also, link mixed and mastered.
  • "Alongside the main band lineup of lead singer Gerard Way, guitarists Ray Toro and Frank Iero, and bassist Mikey Way, the song features Jarrod Alexander on drums and Jamie Muhoberac on keyboard." - You could mention the main lineup between em dashes for flow I think?
  • Don't link lyricist or songwriter since they are common terms (MOS:OVERLINK).
  • Write the full name of Reprise Records since it's the first mention.
  • Link mainstream rock.
  • Per MOS:SURNAME, only refer to the surname if the person's full name is already mentioned before. For Gerard and Mikey Way, I believe you should only put their first name after the first mention.
  • "it made its live debut at the band's concert" - The same as before. I don't think the song debuted itself.
  • "It was first show" - "It was the first show"?
  • "in a similar vein to the band's previous single "Welcome to the Black Parade"" - change "previous" to "2006" since it's not their direct previous single, it was "Fake Your Death".
  • The readers' poll is not critical reception, so it should not be under that section. I would remove it or rename the section "Reception", adding the Commercial performance too.
  • Remove links in vocals, songwriter, producer, lyricist, guitar, and maybe drums and bass. These are common terms.
  • In ref 6, list Apple Music in publisher instead of work to not be italicized.
Apple Music is not the publisher, the label is. dxneo (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm basing this on other recent song FAs that use Apple Music as a source. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 20:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • In ref 32, link Official Charts Company and list that into publisher instead to not be italicized.
  • Refs 23, 35, and 36 are missing access-date.
  • There's some archives missing.

I think that's all I could say. Best of luck! CatchMe (talk · contribs) 07:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing, I think I got everything you pointed out except for the archives stuff, which I'll get to at some point soon. λ NegativeMP1 22:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]