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September 2021

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Hello SloanLA. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:SloanLA. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=SloanLA|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 11:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:SloanLA, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=SloanLA|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 13:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved your draft that was on your user page to its own page, User:SloanLA/Momentum Myriad. Before you edit further, please comply with the instructions above. 331dot (talk) 13:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SloanLA Hi Dot - I work at momentum (an employee) so am not getting paid seperately for the Wikipedia pages I'm creating.

Being an employee counts, you don't have to be specifically paid to edit. You must make the required declaration, a Terms of Use requirement. 331dot (talk) 13:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


331dot Hi Dot. I added the disclaimer to the Momentum Myriad life insurance page and added the signature. I hope it's okay. It's the first time I'm doing this. I created a page called Kimi Body Age Calculator yesterday in the sandbox environment, but when I want to move it to the "draft" page, it says I can't. Do you know why?

That's okay regarding the notice, but you should do so on your user page, User:SloanLA. If you copy the following to your user page- {{paid|user=SloanLA|employer=InsertName}} (as you are viewing it here), you can then fill in the relevant information. Regarding the draft you speak of, you submitted it and it is pending- it's fine to have where it is now. If accepted, the reviewer will place it in the encyclopedia. 331dot (talk) 14:33, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. Dhaneesh 💙 Ram 14:29, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shameless advertising

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Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at User:SloanLA/sandbox, you may be blocked from editing. There is no way on Earth that we would allow you to post an advertisement for your employer's "Kimi Body Age Calculator" app. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Orangemike - thank you for your feedback with regards to Kimi Body Age Calculator content. Are you able to give me some tips please on how to make it less promotional? I really tried to make the content as non-promotional as possible. Thank you.155.93.143.105 (talk) 15:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not Orangemike but I can say that I think that you misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. It is not a place to merely tell about something; that's considered promtional, you don't have to be actively soliciting or selling something. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. I did not look at them all indepth, but it appears the sources you had offered did not mention your app at all but were intended to cite specific points in describing what your app does. If no independent sources write about your app itself with significant coverage, it would not merit a Wikipedia article. Independent sources are not press releases, brief mentions, announcements of routine activites, or any primary sources. 331dot (talk) 15:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SloanLA, you are invited to the Teahouse!

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331dot Thanks so much for your help Dot. I will try work through the articles in the Teahouse forum and hopefully get the help I need there. Thanks again.


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16:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

To avoid frustration, learn about our notability requirements.

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Wikipedia has only one absolute requirement for an article: the article's subject must be notable by our definition of notable. We can fix any other problem to salvage an article. We cannot fix notability. If the subject in not notable, then the article will be deleted, full stop, no exceptions, no workarounds. Please read WP:AMOUNT.

Notability in general is defined at WP:N. Notability for a corporation is defined at WP:NCORP. Unless you are fairly sure that you can add suitable references to published sources that establish notability, you should not write an article, as your work will be wasted. Not all sources support notability. This is easy to mess up: see WP:CSMN. If you are sure your subject is notable, we can help you get past all the other fiddly stuff. -Arch dude (talk) 16:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]