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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimmy Doom (June 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Dan arndt (talk) 01:45, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sindrella409! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 01:45, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to review the article. I'm a little confused. Jimmy Doom is famous in Michigan for his work with the Almighty Lumberjacks of Death, Host of Erotic Poetry Shows, and his writing for all of the major publications in the Metropolitan Detroit area. What do I need to do differently so that he is considered notable?

Also, could you provide additional information about the inline citations? Everything I used came from major metro Detroit/Michigan publications. I've taught English for 24 years, so I'm unsure how these aren't considered quality sources.

Thank you for any guidance you can provide.

Kirstin Sindrella409 (talk) 02:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Doom

The draft needs to satisfy the requirements of WP:MUSICBIO. One of the main issues when I reviewed the draft was the reliability of the cited references. Discogs, IMDb, and GoodReads, are not acceptable or reliable sources as they are user generated without any independent editorial oversight. In addition, podcasts, interviews and the individual's websites are all primary sources and therefore not independent or reliable either. The Detroit Free Presss website is behind a paywall so can't be accessed or verified. Also the sources require properly referenced inline citations - see WP:REFB. You also need to remove all embedded links to external websites (WP:CS:EMBED) these should be replaced with inline citations. In addition, there are a number of statements in the draft that lack any sources or references - this constitutes original research and needs to be removed if a source to support it can't be found.

I hope that the above helps clarify my review. I would be prepared to reassess once the issues have been addressed. Happy editing. Dan arndt (talk) 05:56, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. This helps a lot. I'll revisit it this weekend and resource the material. Sindrella409 (talk) 10:50, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy editing! Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:22, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I notice that you carried out a newcomer's copyediting task on Sorcerer's Apprentice (Shah book). I reverted your edit because you removed several useful wikilinks, links to other Wikipedia articles, which rather defeats the purpose of a wiki. I've removed the dead external link that you found, as I checked the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine and couldn't find an archived version. It's best not to delete dead external links, but to check Google and the Wayback Machine first and update the link or tag them instead as dead links. See Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup. I also copyedited the advert-like text that you had found. Regards, Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 19:29, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question. When I tried posting an article I was told that I couldn't use links to other Wiki articles because it was circular referencing. Which is correct?

I'll update them as dead links next time. Thank you for your help! Sindrella409 (talk) 20:05, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can't use Wikipedia for citations (references), as Wikipedia is not a reliable source. You can't use other sites that mirror Wikipedia content as citations (references), as that is a circular reference. In the text (not as references) you can (and should) add wikilinks, links to other Wikipedia articles.

This is a wikilink: [[WP:GOLDENRULE|Golden Rule]]

This is a reference: <ref>somewhere.com</ref>

Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 20:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explaining! I appreciate you taking the time! Sindrella409 (talk) 20:25, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, and you can always ask questions at the Teahouse. Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 20:27, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimmy Doom (October 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

You cannot cite punknoirmagazine or Amazon in a Wikipedia article, those don't qualify as reliable sources. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 09:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are the other sources considered reliable? Sindrella409 (talk) 20:31, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 09:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimmy Doom (November 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Vanderwaalforces were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Articles/news pieces written by him can not be used on his Wikipedia article. Plus, see WP:SIGCOV.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Jimmy Doom and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jimmy Doom has been accepted

Jimmy Doom, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]