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Discussion over at the RT News article
There's a discussion on the talk page of RT News that you were originally involved in that has carried off again and become a debate on the talk page about criticism in the lede of the article (which has been locked with the criticism removed from the lede by an admin). I ask that you contribute to the talk discussion, since it was originally your idea to remove the criticism from the lede in the first place.
Thank you, Solntsa90 (talk) 19:58, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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Deletion discussion about Dicko Fils
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Speedy deletion nomination of Sofiano
Hello SpikeballUnion,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Sofiano for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.
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Copyright problem on Tambu (music)
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Sorry for reverting, but the concept of "entailment" is not identical to that of "logical consequence". Although I agree the article is in the bad state of referencing. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:45, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Okay and yes it is a poor article. Then why is Logical consequence also called Entailment in its article? And why does "Entailment" already redirect to Logical consequence? SpikeballUnion (talk) 11:34, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Entailment redirects to Logical consequence because it must have been deemed to be the primary topic of the term. But it's not the only topic that this term can refer to (ambiguity is a pretty common occurrence). – Uanfala (talk) 11:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Indic Script
Please do NOT add Indic script, in ANY language, to the lead section of an article, as you did at Visakhapatnam as this contravenes WP:NOINDICSCRIPT - thank you - Arjayay (talk) 12:45, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- Arjayay, WP:NOINDICSCRIPT only applies to articles within the scope of Wikiproject India. Of course, this would include Visakhapatnam, but it doesn't include for example articles that have to do with Wikiproject Hinduism or WP Languages. – Uanfala (talk) 13:02, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Reflist|4
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April 2017
In a recent edit to the page Libya, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.
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In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. ansh666 21:22, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- I understand this rule. However, may I point out that throughout the article, such as in the 2011 Civil War, Post-Gaddafi era, Government and politics, Foreign relations and Religion sections, English English (British) is used. May I also point out that no comment or other issue (for example on the talk page) was made establishing the standard of English used on the Libya article. Numerous times before, I've normalised the standard of English of an article to English English with no issue or objection. Thank you for your reminder anyway. SpikeballUnion (talk) 22:33, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- With regard to the standard of English of the original author, it cannot be ascertained, because no regional spellings were used in the original version of the article. The article today is an agglomeration of multiple user inputs. SpikeballUnion (talk) 22:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Alright, just wanted to make sure you were aware. Cheers, ansh666 23:44, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Many of your edits aren't supported by any sources, they seem to be your OR. Your opinions aren't neutral by definition.Xx236 (talk) 09:21, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
May 2017
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- For Spike's information only: In the US it was (is?) common to nickname and insult new immigrants. Irish=Mick, Italian=Guinea, etc. Poles showed up here in Chicago about 1900 and were "dumb", when I met my wife in 1970 she was still a "Polack" (who had the last laugh there?). Either "Political correctness" or just time has made most of these obsolete, offensive, backwards, or just plain stupid, I rarely hear them anymore. Sammy D III (talk) 20:20, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Right, well that was not the way in which I used it at all. Thank you for this information. SpikeballUnion (talk) 20:27, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- For Spike's information only: In the US it was (is?) common to nickname and insult new immigrants. Irish=Mick, Italian=Guinea, etc. Poles showed up here in Chicago about 1900 and were "dumb", when I met my wife in 1970 she was still a "Polack" (who had the last laugh there?). Either "Political correctness" or just time has made most of these obsolete, offensive, backwards, or just plain stupid, I rarely hear them anymore. Sammy D III (talk) 20:20, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
I see you are doing a lot of solid work around these articles, but surely it doesn't make sense to put a redlink into "See also"? Pinkbeast (talk) 19:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- There is no red link there anymore. I removed it, as the Keita dynasty covered pre-imperial and late-imperial figures of Mali. SpikeballUnion (talk) 19:34, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Regardless, I was about to create the article anyway, so I put it there. It wouldn't have been red for long. SpikeballUnion (talk) 19:37, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- The latter scenario was what I thought might be going on; all I mean is I would have done it in the other order. But since as you say it is moot... Pinkbeast (talk) 21:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I know it isn't good practice, but I thought so few people would be viewing Mansa (title) at the time that they wouldn't notice the link red at all. SpikeballUnion (talk) 22:08, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- The latter scenario was what I thought might be going on; all I mean is I would have done it in the other order. But since as you say it is moot... Pinkbeast (talk) 21:32, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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Francafrique
I recently reverted your edit again. I made the reversions based on a guideline (WP:Redundancy) and on a policy (WP:ISATERMFOR). If you disagree with my reverts, I think it would be more fruitful that we discuss it on the talk page. Thanks. danielkueh (talk) 19:24, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I'm not going to bother. A simple line in an edit summary was all the input I had, and now I'm going to leave it alone. SpikeballUnion (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- Also, that policy you've linked to is one I haven't seen before and has helped me understand that my edit won't be accepted. SpikeballUnion (talk) 19:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- No worries. There are so many policy pages. It's really hard to keep up. Overall, I find your contributions (improving the grammar of WP articles) to be valuable. Please continue! danielkueh (talk) 19:33, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
- I reverted your edit again per WP policy (WP:ISATERMFOR). Plus, the New York Times article seems to be fine defining it this way. I thought we had resolved this issue. If you do not like it, then you should propose an amendment to the Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary page policy page or at the very least, discuss it on the article's talk page. Thanks. danielkueh (talk) 19:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
- I left a message on the talk page. SpikeballUnion (talk) 19:42, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Undue weight
Exactly how is the caption supposed to be Undue weight? There is no debate that Western culture, for most of its history until the Cold War, was nearly the same as Christian culture. By claiming this to he POV you ignore tge existence of the Middle Ages, which takes up most of the history of Western civilization. And just because my contributions support Christianity is irrelevant, because they cite reliable sources.Music314812813478 (talk) 00:33, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
- The caption is undue weight on two conditions: its placement right at the top of the page and its claim that most of Westerners are "cultural Christians". Regardless, however, the main issue is that it is not suitable as the first image of the page when the other more understandable, relateable and descriptive images are present, such as the Leonardo da Vinci's Vitruvian Man or the bust of the ancient Greek philosopher Plato. This is how the lead has been for ages, with no disagreement. SpikeballUnion (talk) 01:53, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
- Its placement at the top makes sense, since Western culture was nearly the same as Christian culture for the majority of its history. Regarding the cultural Christians claim, cultural Christians are those whose culture have been influenced by Christianity. Even atheists such as NeildeGrasse Tyson appreciate Handel's Messiah. For another example of a Cultural Christian, see firm antitheist Richard Dawkins, who describes himself as such. While the other images are more relatable, placing them at the top would sacrifice due historical coverage, since the Middle Ages take up the majority of the history of the West.Music314812813478 (talk) 02:39, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
July 2017
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- Thank you for letting me know how to delete redirects. SpikeballUnion (talk) 03:13, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
Stalin's Dictatorship
SpikeballUnion, your dedication to improving the Joseph Stalin bio is commendable, especially your attention to the smallest details, such as whether or not there should be an indefinite article between governed the Soviet Union as and dictator. Your work inspired me to think more deeply about the lede; thanks to you, I've come up with a stronger solution: He governed the Soviet Union as its dictator. Scaleshombre (talk) 22:21, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how sarcastic this post was meant to be, but you're welcome, I guess. SpikeballUnion (talk) 22:53, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
IP address
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- Where is my IP address visible? I looked but I couldn't find it. Thank you. SpikeballUnion (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ohh I get where there was a misunderstanding now. I wasn't referring to the original post being mine, I was referring to the post I was writing. SpikeballUnion (talk) 17:14, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ok good. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:29, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ohh I get where there was a misunderstanding now. I wasn't referring to the original post being mine, I was referring to the post I was writing. SpikeballUnion (talk) 17:14, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi, some of your recent edits have been creating inconsistincies within articles on the type of spelling used. This changed center to centre twice and left center in four other locations. Per MOS:ENGVAR we should be retaining whichever national variety of English was used in the article and be having internally consistent spelling. Your edits violated both of those. Please do not continue making such changes. nableezy - 20:04, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- On Doha, both "center" and "centre" appear throughout the article, as do each standards' spellings on every article I edit. I wasn't creating inconsistencies – the inconsistencies were there from the start. If anything, I'm trying to normalise the English standard, but the expectation of objections like this one prevent me from normalising entire articles at one time. SpikeballUnion (talk) 20:10, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I see that on Green Line as well. Sorry, was a bit quick to judge there. nableezy - 20:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
MOS:ENGVAR and other matters
In a recent edit to Bazaar you changed the spelling of two words - "centre" (Brit English) to "center" (US English) and "organization" (US English) to "organisation" (Brit English), but left other inconsistencies in spelling in the article (e.g. "modernize" and "centralised"). No doubt you are aware, that the spelling should be internally consistent within the article and should follow the English variation used in the first version of the article. If you plan to change the spelling, at least those changes should be consistent with other usage within the article. If you do not intend to change all the spellings to a consistent variation of English, then it is probably best left alone. (I cannot seem to determine which variation of English was the original, but have now converted all spellings to British English.)
In addition, you added a wiki link to a word, "caravanserai" that had already been linked in an earlier part of the article and as I am sure you are aware, should not be linked twice within the same article. I have deleted your change on the basis that there was already a link to that article.
Finally, you changed the title of a painting and put the new title in italics and lower case. However, capitals are normally used for the first word in a title (of a book, magazine, TV program or work of art). And, although italics arguably should be used for titles, they seem to attract the attention of reversionists, so I have ceased using this format for titles. All the other titles in this article do not use italics, so the use of italics for one painting title while leaving other titles in the unitalicised form introduces another inconsistency. BronHiggs (talk) 23:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- 1. On Bazaar, "caravanserai" was not linked in the lead of the article. I checked this by searching the word, and then I added the hyperlink. Now that you've reverted it, it doesn't have a link again.
- 2. Refer to the above post on this talk page for your issue with MOS:ENGVAR. SpikeballUnion (talk) 11:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Telegram NPOV?
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- Talk:Telegram (messaging service)#Reception section is virtually entirely criticism. SpikeballUnion (talk) 19:19, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
November 2017
In a recent edit to the page Sudan Liberation Movement/Army, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.
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- The original article (one sentence)'s standard of English cannot be determined. However, some of the first authors of the article used British English, evidenced in part by the lack of the usage of the serial comma (common in American style guides but rare in English style guides). Additionally, the major early contributor User:Leutha is from the United Kingdom and uses British English. SpikeballUnion (talk) 16:18, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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Please pay attention when reverting
Your revert here was not justified by invoking having reverted a blocked IP. Please check the history of the article, and the talk page before making blind reverts. The lyrics of Anthem of the Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic were removed again after the IP's removal (which was, actually, justified by their edit summary of WP:NOTLYRICS). A thread was opened specifically to address the situation on the article's talk page here. If you have any concerns as to the legitimacy of the removal, feel free to respond to the thread with relevant policies and guidelines. Thank you for your understanding. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:04, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- I've reverted your restored content as the sources you provided are not reliable sources, but user generated sources. I understand that you are adding the content in good faith but, as I've already noted, I've created a thread dedicated specifically to sourcing on the article's talk page. Please follow WP:BRD and we can discuss how best to tackle the article's content from there. Thanks. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
"Tell"
You just erased some 20 wiki-links I was creating by adding your own note "This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it." :( Please resume where you cut me off:
- Please go to this page List of cities of the ancient Near East
- Open new tabs to "tells" listed on that page
- Keep adding " tell wherever you find "mound," "city," or "tell" in the text of each tell
- Also add Tell (archaeology) to the "See also" section
- Add the specific tell to the list under "List of tells" on the page Tell (archaeology) with the numbering sign #
Happy New Year--Aboudaqn (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
- How did I erase anything? Please explain. SUM1 (talk) 13:15, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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fake blue links instead of useful red links
Hi SUM1,
I've noticed that you've been converting red links to fake blue links. Turning everything blue can be detrimental to the encyclopedia. For instance, we may have a red link to [[X sprachbund]]. That's a useful red link -- for example, an expert reader of the article may see the red link, think it's important to cover and so decide to create an article on the subject. If you make it blue by changing it to [[X]] [[sprachbund]], you make it look like we now have an article on the subject when we don't, confusing readers and discouraging the creation of the article. Perhaps worse, that destroys the link if an article ever is created. Also, neither 'X' nor 'sprachbund' may be worth linking to at this point in the article. In general, the MOS and other WP guidelines discourage placing one link immediately after another, without any intervening material, because that looks confusingly like one long link, and also encourage the retention of useful red links -- ones that link to a potentially useful future article.
— Thanks, kwami (talk) 16:39, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- Please link to where I have supposedly done this. SUM1 (talk) 16:43, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- I located the instance which caused you to leave a message on my talk page. I cannot find any other instance of me doing this.
- It is clear that it was you who added this red link, therefore I apologise for reverting it. It was a simple passing assumption that either the author had linked to an incorrect name for an existing article or that, if it were notable enough, there already existed the concept of the Kalahari Basin sprachbund in the content of other articles such as the Khoisan languages. I would not have expected such a notable concept to not have an article, let alone for the creator of its red link to have been you. It was not an attempt to "fix" a red link, despite the summary. I understand the concept of red links and have used them myself before. SUM1 (talk) 00:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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