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18:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Hall of Fame CfDs

Hi Andy, Montanabw suggested I ask your opinion on some CfDs. I think they should be kept, but perhaps there are some guidelines I am not familiar with? The editor is back after a hiatus, and she has started creating CfDs to delete HoF categories again. The one I am actively involved in now is Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 April 15#Category:Inter Dominion Hall of Fame but there are others. Just looking for advice, not advocacy. Thanks for listening. dawnleelynn(talk) 17:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Dawnleelynn: In such cases, it's often better to make a decision at a policy level, rather than on a piecemeal basis; for that you need an RfC: see WP:RfC. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Andy, I'll take a look. dawnleelynn(talk) 17:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
I was reading about this article yesterday and today. Then I noticed a little while ago that under WP:RFCNOT it says CfDs. So, that's not going to work. But I'll just go on with this one as it is. I still appreciate the thought. I also asked Ser Amantio di Nicolao for advice per Montanabw, and he says he thinks I have a better handle on the guidelines than he does, so I must be doing the best that can be done with this one. Thanks a bunch! dawnleelynn(talk) 19:00, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
@Dawnleelynn: I think you'll end up by having to establish what exceptions to WP:OCAWARD could and should exist. That is an editing guideline, and stating that generally "recipients of an award should be grouped in a list rather than a category" is going to sink your arguments to keep the categories for award recipients. If you have to rely on the "defining characteristic" exception, you'll probably lose the debate in most of the cases at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 April 15#Category:Inter Dominion Hall of Fame, because it's difficult to convince others that receiving the award defined a particular successful horse, rather than their career, for example.
I suggest that you'd have more luck in attempting to clarify the part of the guidance that states "(though there are a few exceptions to this),[clarification needed]", and an RfC is the correct vehicle for clarifying an editing guideline.
You would have to present an argument that there is a distinct, definable set of articles whose subjects have received an award, where a category containing them would confer benefits beyond a simple list article that contains the same. I imagine you might be able to argue that having categories is the usual means on Wikipedia of providing easy navigation to related articles. You ought to establish that the set of articles would be a well-defined, coherent, exhaustive group that would very likely be of sufficient interest to readers that they would wish to read many of them. That fits the fundamental purpose of categorisation, rather than a stand-alone list (which is principally not a navigation aid, but an encyclopedic enumeration of potential articles on a particular topic). Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 19:57, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
@RexxS: Long time no see! Thanks very much for your thoughtful and detailed message. I'll digest this for a bit first and it should be very helpful I think. I'll let you know. This would be my first time doing something like this but I'm willing.dawnleelynn(talk) 20:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

This is a subcategory of Category:English nurses. The rule is we put them in the lowest category. It doesnt imply anything about nationality, and the article says nothing about nationality. Its about location. Rathfelder (talk) 13:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Well, it should not be, because not all nurses from London are English. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Tom Moore (fundraiser)

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