Talk:South West Coast Path

GA

To reach GA standard - lots of bit but mostly easy to achieve

•  Done"Britain has unique right-of-way laws that keep historic foot paths open to the public even when they pass through private property" please explain/clarify/add link/reference added link but this probably still needs clarification on the page how this relates to the SWCP Geof Sheppard (talk · contribs)

I've added a sentance & relevant Act to clarify.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

•  Done sentance beginning "the smallest parish church...", I'm not sure of the relevance of this to where you are on the walk - this needs clarification PamD (talk)
•  Doneculbone hill to great hangman - please clarify PamD (talk)
• The walk mentions leaving exmoor but never mentioned entering 3rd sentence of Somerset and N Devon section - already there
•  Done"Several small villages including Abbotsham lie on the A39 just inland of the path around Clovelly Bay." need to introduce clovelly bay first as this sentance doesn't link otherwise

I've reworded sentence re Clovelly Bay explaining setlements are away from beach because of the cliffs— Rod ^talk 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

•  Done"breeding ground for kittiwakes" needs a reference PamD (talk)
•  Done"lamorna cove is a favourite with the artists" such as..., can a reference be supplied? - the same comment goes for newlyn Geof Sheppard (talk · contribs)
•  Done sentance starting "the island can be reached" - which island? Geof Sheppard (talk · contribs)
•  Done ref needed for statement about the Spanish Armada was first sighted here
•  Doneref need for Lyme Regis film reference PamD (talk)
•  Done Coast Along section needs expansion and refs Have renamed it to broaden content PamD (talk)

[this wouldn't affect the GA classification but it would be interesting to have a map of the route] Nengscoz416 (talk) 02:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

A real team effort (while I was at work) has, I believe, addressed all of the concerns listed above. I agree that a map would be nice but it is beyond my skills - I will ask a couple of map experts. Hopefully these edits have met your concerns, but if there are any further improvements needed, please let us know.— Rod ^talk 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations and excellent effort! Nengscoz416 (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Towards FA status?

This article has now been a stable GA for over a year, with recent additions particularly in relation to some places in Cornwall. Apart from a few sections without citations I was wondering what others think would be needed to achieve the Featured article criteria? I will put a note on the relevant wikiproject talk pages and see if others would be interested in working on getting the South West Coast Path article to FA.— Rod ^talk 11:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the inline citations should be removed from the lead. Hopefuly they are referenced elsewhere in the article. Jolly Ω Janner 22:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

South West Coast Path forms part of the route of the E9 European Coastal Path

This is not consistent with the wiki page on the E9 European Coastal Path. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brownturkey (talk • contribs) 16:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

According to Ramblers info on E9 the part of the South West Coast Path from Plymouth to Poole forms part of European walking route E9.— Rod ^talk 17:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Value

...new research in 2003 indicated that it generated around £300 million a year in total, which could support more than 7,500 jobs. This research also recorded that 27.6% of visitors to the region came because of the Path, and they spent £136 million in a year. Local people took 23 million walks on the Path and spent a further £116 million, and other visitors contributed the remainder. A further study in 2005 estimated this figure to have risen to around £300 million.

How can it have increased from £300 million to £300 million? The cited reference is only a secondary reference, but gives £300 million for 2005, suggesting that the figure in 2003 was less (if it has increased, though no reference is cited for that). Anyone have any proper data? StephenDawson (talk) 15:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm also unclear as to who the "other visitors" are who are neither visitors to the region or local people. StephenDawson (talk) 15:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Tintagel

Removed "and also said to be the site of the classic example of a Celtic monastery;" as it conflicts with the academic consensus: see Tintagel Castle for details.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 19:18, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

References

Map?

I really feel as though there needs to be a map of the SW with the true scale of the trail highlighted. I know the walk and area well enough but even I can't picture what 630 miles means. I think it would help others not so familiar visualise the route better also; a very long route that traverses several county and geographical boundaries but we do not show a map of it? Does anyone else have an opinion? It seems conspicuous in it's absence so I'm not jumping to putting one in myself. FloreatAntiquaDomus 14:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FloreatAntiquaDomus (talk • contribs)

@FloreatAntiquaDomus: I too would like to see a map of this trail. I am unfamiliar with this path and would love to be able to see it's true size in this article and understand better it's geographic relation to the cities and counties that it traverses. Rupert1904 (talk) 21:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Culbone

I've deleted the following sentence:

To the south of the path, the highest sea cliffs in England, reaching a height of 1,350 feet (411 m), are at Culbone Hill, although this is more than a mile from the sea.

This information is not in the cited reference, and there are no 400m cliffs (more than twice the height of Beachy Head!) south (inland) of Culbone as this suggests. I think this may be a misinterpretation of an 1868 description quoted in the Culbone article[1], which reads "The cliffs behind the village rise to the height of 1,200 feet, over which a small stream falls down to the sea, forming a pleasing cascade." I don't think "cliffs" in this case should be taken literally; the land to the south rises for about a mile to Culbone Hill (414m),[2] but there's nothing like the "highest sea cliffs in England" suggested here. Dave.Dunford (talk) 13:07, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

OK Exmoor National Park have obviously moved their pages around but if you look at Exmoor did you know it says "Exmoor has the highest coastline on the British mainland. It reaches a height of 314 metres (1350ft) at Culbone Hill. However, here the crest of the coastal ridge of hills is more than a mile from the sea. If a cliff is defined as having a slope greater than 60 degrees, the highest cliff on mainland Britain is on Great Hangman near Combe Martin. The coastal hill is 318 metres (1043 ft) high with a cliff face of 250 metres (800ft)." It may be a ft-m conversion error in the original quote?.— Rod ^talk 13:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

The 800-foot (240 m) cliffs are at Hangman cliffs (which quoted the same reference, until I changed it). Frankly I think the "highest coastline" claim is essentially unsupportable hyperbole on the part of the National Park. It's not clear how you define the "height of a coastline" (e.g., off the top of my head, the mountains above Penmaenmawr and Barmouth are higher and rise straight from the sea; Ben Nevis is 1,344 metres (4,409 ft), though there is a narrow coastal belt). Dave.Dunford (talk) 13:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

You might want to take a look at Exmoor#Coastline where the same information is presented (although the wording may be slightly different).— Rod ^talk 13:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll start a similar discussion at Exmoor. I think there are two problems with the sentence I removed: (a) the description of Culbone Hill as "cliffs" (it's just a hill) and (b) the suggestion that it is the "highest coastline" on mainland Britain. Great Hangman's claim to the "highest cliffs in England" seems justified and reasonably well defined, but this "highest coastline" business seems to me dubious and woolly. Culbone Hill is a high hill dropping straight to the sea, but there are lots of mountains in Wales and Scotland that are higher and can just as legitimately be described as coastal (though I concede my claim for Ben Nevis is perhaps pushing it!). Thanks Rodw. Dave.Dunford (talk) 14:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

References

no boat service to Wales

the link by water to Wales no longer exists as it states in the passage.....

and the Balmoral, the Waverley and pleasure boats ply to Porthcawl near Swansea. Thetiesthatbind (talk) 12:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

South West Coast Path

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Much of this 2008 promotion is uncited, meaning it does not meet GA criterion 2b). In addition, the article needs cleanup for tone, as the "Route description" section often reads more like a guidebook than an encyclopedic article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.