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Orphaned references in Sia Furler discography
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Sia Furler discography's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Removing Eye of the Needle off the Singles, as lead artist segment
[edit]Reference named "BPI":
- From List of music recording certifications: "The BPI". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved 2013-11-19.
- From Beyoncé (album): "BPI – Certified Awards Search: Beyoncé Knowles". British Phonographic Industry. Retrieved April 9, 2014.
- From British Phonographic Industry: Gallup (4 February 1989). "The Top of the Pops Chart" (PDF). Record Mirror: 4. Retrieved 16 July 2010.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:44, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
"Eye of the Needle"
[edit]I removed Eye of the Needle from there because it wasn't released as a official single anywhere, it was released as a promotional single. Big Girls Cry IS A SINGLE released only in France (as a single). And why are you saying I deleted Big Girls Cry too, that's not true. I only deleted "Eye of the Needle".
- "Eye of the Needle" was released digitally in multiple countries, which made it a single. Simon (talk) 14:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- "Eye of the Needle" was released digitally but as a promotional single. The same happened with "Big Girls Cry" a few weeks later, and the song WAS later released as an official single in October. "Eye of the Needle" is not a single, it's just a promotional single. 190.194.10.99 (talk) 15:24, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Right, "Eye of the Needle" is not a single. Not because a promotional single is released digitally worldwide, the fact is going to make it a single. So please, stop re-adding "Eye of the Needle" to the singles section. "Big Girls Cry" was first released as a promotional single, then Sia decided to release it on France as a single following the album release. Sia announced she was going to release a video for it but she hasn't. And for the last time, "Eye of the Needle isn't a single". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.168.100.77 (talk) 22:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- You really need more legit explanation for this. Released to retailers does not clarify single release? You really need prove for this. If you keep removing "Eye of the Needle" without legit explanation, this page will be protected and you will be blocked. Simon (talk) 04:58, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- First of all, I'm not sure of who you're specifically directing your message to (there's three anon users here), but I just wanted to let you know that I only removed "Eye of the Needle" from the singles section once, before this discussion started, because that's how the song was listed as on the 1000 Forms of Fear page. In these pages you can see how "Eye of the Needle" is referred to as a promotional single: Single Review: Sia – Big Girls Cry and First Listen: Sia – Eye Of The Needle. And actually, a song which is released to digital retailers is not necessary a single, it could be just a promotional single, just like Iggy Azalea's "Impossible Is Nothing" (it's not a single, yet it was released to digital retailers prior to the album's release). 190.194.10.99 (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- You see Simon? He's right. Eye of the Needle is not a single, I really don't what makes you think so. EVery single fan of Sia knows Sia's 1000 Forms of Fear singles chronology. Eye of the Needle was ONLY released as a Promotional Single. She never announced it as a single. Big Girls Cry is a single released in France only, she announced it and said she would film a music video. She announced Elastic Heart would be re-released with a new version and a new music video. Even in Wikipedia's 1000 Forms of Fear article, it talks about "Chandelier", "Big Girls Cry" and "Elastic Heart" being released as singles and "Eye of the Needle" and "Big Girls Cry" as Promotional singles"— Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.241.106.71 (talk) 01:48, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- First of all, I'm not sure of who you're specifically directing your message to (there's three anon users here), but I just wanted to let you know that I only removed "Eye of the Needle" from the singles section once, before this discussion started, because that's how the song was listed as on the 1000 Forms of Fear page. In these pages you can see how "Eye of the Needle" is referred to as a promotional single: Single Review: Sia – Big Girls Cry and First Listen: Sia – Eye Of The Needle. And actually, a song which is released to digital retailers is not necessary a single, it could be just a promotional single, just like Iggy Azalea's "Impossible Is Nothing" (it's not a single, yet it was released to digital retailers prior to the album's release). 190.194.10.99 (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- You really need more legit explanation for this. Released to retailers does not clarify single release? You really need prove for this. If you keep removing "Eye of the Needle" without legit explanation, this page will be protected and you will be blocked. Simon (talk) 04:58, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- Right, "Eye of the Needle" is not a single. Not because a promotional single is released digitally worldwide, the fact is going to make it a single. So please, stop re-adding "Eye of the Needle" to the singles section. "Big Girls Cry" was first released as a promotional single, then Sia decided to release it on France as a single following the album release. Sia announced she was going to release a video for it but she hasn't. And for the last time, "Eye of the Needle isn't a single". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.168.100.77 (talk) 22:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- "Eye of the Needle" was released digitally but as a promotional single. The same happened with "Big Girls Cry" a few weeks later, and the song WAS later released as an official single in October. "Eye of the Needle" is not a single, it's just a promotional single. 190.194.10.99 (talk) 15:24, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Did she ever announced "Big Girls Cry" a single? It's funny when a song released digitally in multiple countries is not a single. After all, the sources given are not reliable sources. Please find Sia's confirmation (through interviews on magazines...) or some kind of more reliable sources. Simon (talk) 10:24, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- One more thing to say: "Impossible Is Nothing" was NOT released for digital sales independently from the album, just only made for pre-order. Simon (talk) 10:25, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- So, I did some more research. I read Sia's Twitter feed and went back to June, when "Eye of the Needle" was released. All I could find was this tweet. I'm aware she didn't say "Eye of the Needle" was a promotional single, but neither she said it was an official single, just an instant grat. Earlier you said "Eye of the Needle" got a separate release from the album before its release, and when I gave the example of "Impossible Is Nothing", you said it hadn't been released for digital sales independently. I remember pretty well "Eye of the Needle" was also released with the PRE-ORDER of the album, not separately like "Chandelier" had been released before. I'm aware the song was released on Spotify prior to the album's release, but that does not make it a single. "Impossible Is Nothing" may have not been released on Spotify, but Iggy's following promotional single, "Iggy SZN", was released on Spotify. Anyway, a few weeks later, "Big Girls Cry" was released as the third instant grat. Along with the announcement, she tweeted a link to this page, in which it's clearly stated "Big Girls Cry" is a promo single. I also searched on the website for "Eye of the Needle", and I found this article, which reads: "It’s an ‘instant grat’ thing so probably not a single". I know, it says PROBABLY, but that means it MAY or MAY NOT be a single. And searching on the web, I found this article by Virgin Radio France: Sia : Big Girls Cry sera son prochain single. Please don't tell me that Virgin Radio is not a reliable source. In the article (written in August), it says "Big Girls Cry" would be released as the second single of 1000 Forms of Fear. That could mean it hadn't been officialy released as a single before, just like "Eye of the Needle". I'll be trying to find interviews about it, but I don't think there'll be any in which Sia says "No, 'Eye of the Needle' wasn't released as a single". 190.194.10.99 (talk) 14:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- The "Iggy SZN" release was for streaming but not for commercial sales, unlike "Eye of the Needle". Furthermore, "Big Girls Cry" was released in France longer before October 2014. HĐ (talk) 11:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- What you're saying may be true, but then you should find another source. The link you posted takes me nowhere. 190.194.10.99 (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- The link for "Big Girls Cry" release? I can see no problem with it. HĐ (talk) 14:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps the best is the archived revision of the link. HĐ (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, the archived version works. I guess then that both "Eye of the Needle" and "Big Girls Cry" were released as digital singles and later "Big Girls Cry" was re-released as a radio single in France. That's all. 190.194.10.99 (talk) 13:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- ~ Just saying that "Big Girls Cry" was released as a single on iTunes and other digital download sources in the United States and still is available for purchase if you want to search it up. "Eye of the Needle" was released as a promotional single, but "Big Girls Cry" is a single that should be under lead artist.
- Yeah, the archived version works. I guess then that both "Eye of the Needle" and "Big Girls Cry" were released as digital singles and later "Big Girls Cry" was re-released as a radio single in France. That's all. 190.194.10.99 (talk) 13:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps the best is the archived revision of the link. HĐ (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- The link for "Big Girls Cry" release? I can see no problem with it. HĐ (talk) 14:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- What you're saying may be true, but then you should find another source. The link you posted takes me nowhere. 190.194.10.99 (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- The "Iggy SZN" release was for streaming but not for commercial sales, unlike "Eye of the Needle". Furthermore, "Big Girls Cry" was released in France longer before October 2014. HĐ (talk) 11:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- So, I did some more research. I read Sia's Twitter feed and went back to June, when "Eye of the Needle" was released. All I could find was this tweet. I'm aware she didn't say "Eye of the Needle" was a promotional single, but neither she said it was an official single, just an instant grat. Earlier you said "Eye of the Needle" got a separate release from the album before its release, and when I gave the example of "Impossible Is Nothing", you said it hadn't been released for digital sales independently. I remember pretty well "Eye of the Needle" was also released with the PRE-ORDER of the album, not separately like "Chandelier" had been released before. I'm aware the song was released on Spotify prior to the album's release, but that does not make it a single. "Impossible Is Nothing" may have not been released on Spotify, but Iggy's following promotional single, "Iggy SZN", was released on Spotify. Anyway, a few weeks later, "Big Girls Cry" was released as the third instant grat. Along with the announcement, she tweeted a link to this page, in which it's clearly stated "Big Girls Cry" is a promo single. I also searched on the website for "Eye of the Needle", and I found this article, which reads: "It’s an ‘instant grat’ thing so probably not a single". I know, it says PROBABLY, but that means it MAY or MAY NOT be a single. And searching on the web, I found this article by Virgin Radio France: Sia : Big Girls Cry sera son prochain single. Please don't tell me that Virgin Radio is not a reliable source. In the article (written in August), it says "Big Girls Cry" would be released as the second single of 1000 Forms of Fear. That could mean it hadn't been officialy released as a single before, just like "Eye of the Needle". I'll be trying to find interviews about it, but I don't think there'll be any in which Sia says "No, 'Eye of the Needle' wasn't released as a single". 190.194.10.99 (talk) 14:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- One more thing to say: "Impossible Is Nothing" was NOT released for digital sales independently from the album, just only made for pre-order. Simon (talk) 10:25, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Protection
[edit]Recently and IP has kept removing Irish chart positions without appropriate reasons. I think this page needs to be protected. HĐ (talk) 11:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
See "Like a River Runs" for info about another Sia recording. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:26, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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"Never Give Up"
[edit]Sia wrote "Never Give Up" for the film Lion: http://www.stereogum.com/1911922/sia-never-give-up/music/. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:44, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
"Satisfied"
[edit]Sia performed "Satisfied" on The Hamilton Mixtape (YouTube). ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:48, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
"Santa's Coming for Us"
[edit]Should "Santa's Coming for Us", from Everyday Is Christmas, be added to the singles table? ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- The single has been added, but should we add a note that the song has (so far) reached a peak position of #9 on Billboard's Holiday Digital Song Sales chart? ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:24, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Should we add TQX - "The Day That You Moved On" ft. Sia ?
[edit]- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRyPRIbirHk&feature=youtu.be ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:08, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
"Helium"
[edit]"Helium" is listed as a single and as an "other charted song". Should the second mention be removed? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:05, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Potential clean up of Songwriting and Other Appearances section
[edit]I am currently in the process of expanding the List of songs recorded by Sia article so it is completely comprehensive, I should be there soon if I am not already. I am thinking about whether this section of Sia's discography page is fully necessary now... In my opinion, we should condense it to her songwriting appearances for other artists only and have a "See also" linking to the List of songs article, since all her features are/will be listed there. Thoughts please? - Peterpie123rww (talk) 11:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: thoughts? - Peterpie123rww (talk) 15:57, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Peterpie123rww, Great question. Consider asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies as well? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, will do - Peterpie123rww (talk) 09:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Peterpie123rww, Great question. Consider asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies as well? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Needs updating
[edit]first of all all of sia's albums are available to stream except onlysee (1997). so somebody should add that since i dont know how to. And i don't have any evidence that onlysee is available to digital download. This article needs updating. Nicolebrowne (talk) 23:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
"Gimme Love"
[edit]Update needed:
- Wikipedia articles that use Australian English
- List-Class Discography articles
- WikiProject Discographies articles
- List-Class Sia (musician) articles
- High-importance Sia (musician) articles
- WikiProject Sia articles
- List-Class Women in music articles
- Low-importance Women in music articles
- WikiProject Women in Music articles