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Kenta Sawada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Made two appearances in the J3 League in 2019, has not played in the J3 or higher leagues since RossEvans19 (talk) 00:51, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Soma Ishigamori (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Retired in 2020 after 3 appearances, unfortunately fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shogo Hayashi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Has played a total of 572 minutes (https://int.soccerway.com/players/shogo-hayashi/436981/) and has not played since 2018, unfortunately failing GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 19:21, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tsubasa Adachi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Played 18 times in the J3 League, has not played since 2018, unfortunately fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 19:26, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hibiki Goto (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Goto has only played two Emperor's Cup games and last played in 2022, so unfortunately fails GNG RossEvans19 (talk) 19:47, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shujinkou (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No coverage from any WP:VG high-quality reliable sources. No sustained coverage from reputable outlets. Article's subject is a small title that does not meet the GNG. Removing primary sourcing from the article would leave behind a trivial amount of data and render it an eternal stub (if that); material in the infobox is not supported by citations. As an aside, the article was created by disclosed COI editor. — ImaginesTigers (talkcontribs) 11:45, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. Disagreeing with the nomination for deletion:
  1. Other indie titles with far less coverage, fewer sources, and less notability have been present, re: Fragoria, Elasto Mania, Holodance, . Shujinkou has been covered by various news sites and interviews in multiple languages.
  2. The title just released today, and coverage and reviews are still coming in—it is true that the wiki page hasn't been updated with various new sources over the last few days. If the state of the page remains the exact same in 3-6 months, then the potential for deletion is warranted, but it seems a bit early.
  3. Primary sourcing can be removed, but recent secondary sourcing with new information and press coverage seems yet to be added, see: https://sequentialplanet.com/shujinkou-the-five-year-journey-from-platformer-to-dungeon-crawling-epic/, https://ladiesgamers.com/shujinkou-early-access-impressions/, https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/14379-therpgs-2025-every-rpg-their-release-dates and more, - Edits to the page to include more sources and recent coverage is recommended.
  4. Various material in the infobox can be supported with citations, though they seemingly haven't been added, for credits, see: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps5/506578-shujinkou/credit (multiple users adjusted this, acknowledged that this is marked as an Unreliable source) and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19244512/ as two secondary sources.
It is still too early for deletion nomination—reputable outlets are taking notice, as noted below (based on definitions in Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources).
  • Matt Sainsbury from DigitallyDownloaded mentioned and raised attention to Shujinkou in an article just a day ago called "New releases 2-13-2025 to 2-19-2025" by Robert Allen at Tech-Gaming - https://www.tech-gaming.com/new-releases-2-13-25/, saying "Speaking of “exquisite”, “good” and “JRPG action,” I’ve also got to cheer for Shujinkou. It’s a dungeon crawler, and it’s perfectly fine on that level alone, but as Robert says, it’s also a handy learning tool, especially for those early on in their Japanese language journey. The Duolingo Owl is well and truly dead with this slice of joy out there."
  • Shujinkou, a role-playing game, has been mentioned by RPGamer, RPGFan, and RPG Site, all of which qualify in the Genre-specific table of Video games/Sources. Interview and news articles for RPGamer (and an incoming review), one article and a full review for RPGFan, and noting the game exists and its release date on RPG Site. All three sites bringing up the same title implies some sense of acknowledgment regarding the notability of this video game.
  • It has a Metacritic and Opencritic page, and as mentioned above with "it may still be early,", reviews are coming in over time (https://www.metacritic.com/game/shujinkou/, https://opencritic.com/game/18105/shujinkou)
  • Not necessarily reputable per se, but a full review in another language, Hungarian, with an 8/10 rating: https://www.gamekapocs.hu/cikk/4684/shujinkou_teszt
Warm regards Julian Michael Rice (talk) 12:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Highlighting that the above is the disclosed COI editor. I do not believe these sources constitute "sustained coverage". At the very least, this article was made WP:TOOSOON by someone with a financial interest in the game's performance. While this review is ongoing, I will remove primary sources. — ImaginesTigers (talkcontribs) 13:13, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As per ImaginesTigers reasoning and a lot of the sources are along the lines of IMDB, press releases, or the several of the sources including the non-English ones just seems to be mostly the same basic information from the press release repeated. There isn't sufficient significant coverage DarkeruTomoe (talk) 14:01, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Got a review from RPGFan, and trivial mentions from other places, so it's not totally unknown, but fails to reach the threshold for WP:SIGCOV from reliable sources. Maybe a case of WP:TOOSOON, but by the time this AfD ends, if no new reviews pop up, it's probably not going to be notable for a while. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 16:17, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Charlotte Crosby Experience (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG: sources only seem to be routine coverage, or trivial mentions on articles about the host herself. I can't find significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Ligaturama (talk) 11:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Racial identity of Sakanoue no Tamuramaro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The notability of this WP:FRINGE theory is dubious, and a lot of the article just relies on original research to pad the article with speculation. Propose reducing to what is relevant and just merging to Sakanoue no Tamuramaro. Emm90 (talk) 07:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: The page is a translation from the Japanese version which maintains the same issues. It has been employed shortly after its translation as part of the wider Yasuke CTOP to make an argument about a specific tangentially related proverb on the Samurai [1] page. As shown by that link, and it being translated alongside the now-deleted page for Alaric Naude (a fringe scholar who began tweeting about it in relation to Yasuke [2]), I believe it is a case of WP:COATRACK.
Relm (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, and Japan. WCQuidditch 11:51, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge with Sakanoue no Tamuramaro: This article contains a significant amount of COATRACK content, especially in the proverb and background sections. This is alongside the synthesis mentioned by the proposer. Might as well salvage the few good parts and put them in the article about Sakanoue. MiasmaEternal 22:28, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to the "Sakanoue no Tamuramaro" article, where this can be put into context. It seems to be a lot of not much, a rather long-winded article about something that might not be true. Oaktree b (talk) 16:41, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems like they are calling on tanukisann to participate, but he is retired so I think he probably won't be able to participate. Speaking of my personal opinion, I agree with the merging of articles with some conditions. The proverbs would go in the article on the samurai, and the other content would go in the article on Tamuramaro Sakanoue.
    The people who are talking here are misunderstanding the process of the situation due to prejudice. My condition is that I want them to discuss the situation after correctly understanding it. I won't say anything if the conclusion is based on a correct understanding and discussion.
    The correct information regarding this article is as follows:
    • First of all, I agree that this article is a heretical theory. As a Japanese person, I cannot understand why such a theory was advocated by Westerners. Even though Japanese people do not trust it at all, European and American scholars and writers have started to make claims, and black people continue to make claims today.
    • This article is a translation of the Japanese version of the article, and the first Japanese version was published in 2015. This is unrelated to Yasuke or Assassin's Creed.
    • The section on the 21st century includes content about Yasuke and Assassin's Creed. This is something that was recently written. This part has something to do with Yasuke and Assassin's Creed.
    • The proverbs section is a recent text. This is unrelated to Yasuke or Assassin's Creed. Sakanoue no Tamuramaro is a samurai, and this is related to the article.
    • The link to the proverb from the samurai article has nothing to do with Yasuke or Assassin's Creed. Articles about samurai are protected. Tanukisann, who created this translated article, simply wrote the edits suggested by the IP editor on his behalf.
    • This means that most of the content of this article has nothing to do with Yasuke or Assassin's Creed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Between work (talkcontribs) 02:43, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This user is self-identified as the IP Editor [3] who said they saw something being discussed on twitter and joined in. Notably, the twitter account they identify as why they joined in is deeply engaged in the Yasuke discourse [4]. An account, which as of around 15-16 hours ago, has tweeted about the article [5] and about this very AfD[6], an account which also blatantly says that the theory became a topic paired with discourse about Yasuke. So, WP:SPADE. Emm90 (talk) 05:19, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Let me point out something I suddenly realized. Why do you speak with prejudice?
    I get the feeling that you think Between work came to refute the article by looking at social networking sites. Is that really true?
    It seems that Between work has edited the article in the past. This means that he has known about the article for some time. If that is the case, he may not have reacted by looking at the social networking site, but because you set the template.
    That attitude of yours may be the reason for Between work's request for an unbiased discussion. 153.235.114.184 (talk) 11:18, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    NO prejudice, we're talking about whether to keep the article or have it merged with another, I frankly don't care what colour/creed/gender identity you or the subject of the article have, it's irrelevant to this discussion. Oaktree b (talk) 15:38, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I've heard that some people visit the site after seeing it on social media, and I'm one of them.
    I don't know the details, but I don't get the impression that Emm90 is that prejudiced. Please rest assured.
    I feel that Relm is prejudiced and unfair. They say that this article is meant to criticize Yasuke and Assassin's Creed, but there are few such elements in the content of this article. Looking at Relm's editing history, he is drowning in Yasuke's articles, and there are many edits that criticize the editor who created this article. I feel that he is not judging the content to be good or bad, but is active in criticizing the editor.
    Please don't forget that Between work is not against the integration of articles. On the contrary, he is in favor of it. He only wants a proper discussion.
    By the way, it is easy to include the content of the proverb in the article on the samurai, but it seems a bit difficult to include the content in the article on Sakanoue no Tamuramaro. If we don't include much of the current content, we won't know how this theory was born and spread, but the amount of text is a bit too much. 153.234.15.215 (talk) 03:27, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge - People can manufacture theories, we don't need to write articles about them or include them alongside more credible histories. DCsansei (talk) 12:30, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
JDS Mirai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fictional ship. Pure plot summary, no WP:GNG. My BEFORE fails to find anything, and while I cannot search in Japanse I would be very, very surprised if such a niche topic had any sources in any language. Per WP:ATD-R, we can redirect this to Zipang (manga). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MENT Recording (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No one source that points to notability. Does not match WP:GNG and WP:ORG Pollia (talk) 18:10, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, All Tomorrows No Yesterdays (Ughhh.... What did I do wrong this time?) 12:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per @Dekimasu and @Yut3117. DCsansei (talk) 12:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]



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