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Please restore all edits ive done today

I only removed not related content 209.212.213.188 (talk) 12:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done this afternoon. JacktheBrown (talk) 19:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Espresso and Espresso machine

Hi, I wanted to point out that you have not taken care of restoring the Espresso and Espresso machine pages to their pre-vandalization version. The aforementioned pages were vandalized by several sockpuppets of the French italophobe Xiaomichel (such as Sapsby and Tubedati) in 2023, inserting, as is his habit, rubbish "sources" that do not actually affirm anything of what is affirmed, and that are inserted by him ad hoc only to try to attribute a French origin to foods and drinks that are clearly not. It would be useful if you took care of eliminating the false, incorrect, useless and inadequate statements he inserted. Maybe even reporting his other sockpuppets clearly identifiable in the history of those pages. Thanks. 82.51.212.92 (talk) 21:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, all their sockpuppets have been blocked, and honestly I've consumed a lot of energy in this situation (I've also already deleted everything there was to delete). JacktheBrown (talk) 21:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I didn't notice the espresso machine page, but as for the espresso page I've deleted all the wrong things and kept the very few that were correct (tell me what else there's to do). JacktheBrown (talk) 21:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you analyze the sources on the alleged "French inventions", you will notice that only one of these mentions part of what the troll asserts, while the others, at least from what I have seen, lead nowhere. In any case, the espresso we know was and is made with a machine patented in Italy and by an Italian, and what came before it - and regardless of the name it had - concerns methods of making coffee different from what we know today as espresso. 82.51.212.92 (talk) 21:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I need the exact numbers of the sources, thanks in advance. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For example, on the espresso page, in the "Precursors" section, sources 22, 26 and 27 do not lead to what is stated; while 23, 24, 28 and 29 are all related to each other and yes, they deal with the topic, but they only refer to the fact that before those made in Italy there were other coffee machines, and therefore the first coffee machine was not Italian (which no one claims anyway); leaving out, however, the fact that these machines did not make use of the method that we know today as espresso, and therefore did not produce what espresso is (i.e. the topic of the page), but another type of coffee, obtained through a method distinct from the current one (even if some of these were called express or something similar; and it is precisely on the term and on the sensationalism of some of these "sources" that the troll leveraged to advance his agenda). 82.51.212.92 (talk) 22:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide me the link to the sockpuppet edit? JacktheBrown (talk) 22:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first vandalism on the Espresso page by the sockpuppet: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Espresso&diff=prev&oldid=1156937077

Starting from this, he began to gradually pollute the page with his agenda in several phases and with different IPs and sockpuppets.

He then inserted the exact same things on the Espresso machine page. 82.51.212.92 (talk) 22:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you scroll through the edit history, I've done a very good job (also) on this page in terms of eliminating wrong additions by their sockpuppets, I don't think I've missed anything (I'll check again). JacktheBrown (talk) 22:27, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is where he started putting the part about "French inventions": http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Espresso&diff=prev&oldid=1156937569

And then there's Mauricco, who is another of his sockpuppets: http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Espresso&diff=prev&oldid=1168549040 82.51.212.92 (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Absurd, the user who has orchestrated all these sockpuppets has no social life. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, indeed! And he has some strange obsessive complex towards Italy and Italians.

In the case of the espresso (and the espresso machine), the part concerning the "French inventions" was clearly inserted by him and clearly in bad faith, as well as out of context.

He did the same things, on the same pages and with the same modus operandi (and with countless other sockpuppets) also on the Spanish, French, Portuguese wikis... 82.51.212.92 (talk) 22:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, they haven't been a danger for a long time. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:45, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Be very careful though. He tends to compulsively create sockpuppets. 82.51.212.92 (talk) 23:03, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

However, these other two paragraphs:

http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Espresso&diff=prev&oldid=1233522801

were clearly and in bad faith added by the sockpuppet, and have no real connection with what we call espresso today.

The purpose for which he added them was solely to try to give a non-Italian origin to the drink and the machine. 82.51.212.92 (talk) 08:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done: [1]. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:59, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

85.23.11.238

85.23.11.238 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

I see you gave this editor an initial warning. They are now editing in an extremely disruptive manner and appear to be adding LLM-generated content. Could you try to follow up with them, they are refusing to communicate despite multiple L3 and L4 warnings. Skyerise (talk) 16:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Skyerise: I'll report the IP in the appropriate place in a few minutes. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 2025

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Giorgia Meloni. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. —Bagumba (talk) 02:31, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ANI NOTICE

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 02:56, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JacktheBrown,

Please respond at ANI. I'd like to hear your point of view. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:30, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz:

Done: [2]. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:35, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Simonm223 (talk) 16:22, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 2025 (2)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for edit warring and violating the three-revert rule, as you did at Giorgia Meloni. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 16:36, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Simonm223: before leaving the site completely for a week, her name is "Rachele", not "Rachelle"; could you correct your addition? JacktheBrown (talk) 16:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:57, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: you're welcome, and thank you for the block; I needed a quick break. JacktheBrown (talk) 17:01, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DeathTrain: I'm very respectful of blocks, so please don't ping me until 16:36, 7 February 2025 ([3]). JacktheBrown (talk) 15:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]