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Manji (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This "article" is not about any specific film, but about 5 Japanese films that share same name. This isn't how we write articles here. I've tried to convert it to a dab page, but that was reverted. As it stands, this is just a random collection of words. Gonnym (talk) 09:17, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Dude (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doubtful claim to notability: mentioned in a handful of local news articles in 2016, has seen no coverage in last 8 years. Not a single other article links here (this itself doesn't make it not notable, but suggests it has no enduring significance). PlotinusEnjoyer (talk) 05:08, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haruki Mitsuda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Footballer who fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Japanese Wikipedia only contains primary sources, except for: Gekisaka 1 which contains a few lines and is a weak support for notability; Gekisaka 2 which is a match report - does not support notability at all - and Nikkan Sports which is even less about Mitsuda. Geschichte (talk) 07:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merengue (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG and has been kicking around unchanged since 2007. I could find no mention of this band anywhere online except for their own website linked in this article, which is written in Japanese. Kylemahar902 (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kiteretsu Daihyakka (1988 TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Was previously draftified, and contested by creator. I could not find any sources apart from IMDb and IMDb-like websites. Fails notability due to lack of significant coverage. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:38, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hussam Nabil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable, only trivial mentions of the person in references DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tadahiro Aizawa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insignificant amateur stone tool collector, fails WP:NACADEMIC. Subject is also not referenced in any WP:RSs per my WP:BEFORE. --Eelipe (talk) 02:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian NINJAs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No notable pro wrestling tag team. Just worked on the independet promotions. No in deep coverage about the team from third party sources. [6] A few mentions of them winning the title, but most of the sources are WP:ROUTINE results from events no focusing around them HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Confucian fascism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is mostly WP:SYNTH it was originally built around two sources - a single-sentence mention in a textbook: "A second major effort of the Blue Shirts involved Chiang's New Life Movement, a campaign that began in 1934 in order to spread the fascist spirit and challenge the antitraditionalism of the May Fourth period," and a single paper Frederic Wakeman wrote in the 1990s and that was significantly misinterpreted by the article since Wakeman is ambivalent about whether the New Life Movement was in fact fascist, noting that the "fascism" accusations mostly arose from missionaries, that the nationalism of the Blue Shirts was not dissimilar to Maoist revivalist nationalism and to prior nationalist movements in China and that Chiang was known not to want to associate his movements with European fascism. Neither of these two sources mention Japan at all which makes the inclusion of the third source (only three were used by the article) entirely synthetic qua the other two. A single sentence in a single textbook and a failure to properly read a second source are insufficient grounds for an article. Simonm223 (talk) 13:27, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification: the Wakeman source makes mention to the Japanese occupation of parts of China in the context of motivations for Chinese nationalism but makes no connections between Japanese nationalist movements and Chinese nationalist movements. Simonm223 (talk) 13:30, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kiri Paramore, ed. (2016). Japanese Confucianism. Cambridge University Press. p. 186: Epilogue China and Japan earlier late-nineteenth-century disestablishment of Confucianism and divorce from other social practices in the immediate post-Meiji Restoration period made it easy prey for later cooption by the powerful modern ideological forces of racial nationalism, radical conservatism, and later fascism that arose from within that cultural nationalist movement. The reason Confucianism was easily harnessed to these causes was not primarily related to any particular content in Confucian thought. It was rather because Confucianism's social disengagement allowed it to be easily monopolized by those in authority, thereby quashing Confucianism's capacities to promote diversity, critical thought, and critical activism. This despite the fact that, as the central chapters of this book argued, these capacities existed and were powerfully realized in many earlier historical manifestations of Confucianism.
Mainland China today is experiencing similar problems of industrial high modernity to Japan in the mid-twentieth century, including extreme wealth disparity, environmental degradation, and unequal development. As in Japan, the early phases of Chinese modernization, both under the KMT and the CCP, saw the destruction of most institutional nodes for the social integration of Confucianism. Just as in Japan, China in the modern period also saw Confucianism, its spaces and its practices, deci- mated (Yu 2004: 55). The Confucian revival in China today is thus occurring in a similar socio-political climate and in similar circumstances of Confucian social and institutional disconnection as Japan in the mid- twentieth century. Current attempts to resurrect Confucianism in China as a social movement need to start from scratch because most of the social frameworks which formerly supported Confucian activity were destroyed during modernization. As scholarship on this kind of revival in contem- porary China indicates, resurrecting a tradition from scratch requires a particularly heavy subordination to the state and other institutions of power (Billioud 2015). As discussed in Chapter 6, it was revival under exactly these kinds of conditions which facilitated the rise of Confucian fascism in 1930s Japan.
ProKMT (talk) 00:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. The reason I created a Confucian fascism article was because a certain Mickie-Mickie attempted to tie Chiangism, White Terror (Taiwan), Blue Shirts Society, the New Life Movement articles to the fascist category, [7][8][9][10] and I opposed such an attempt. I made the article as a compromise. However, I am not against deleting the article. ProKMT (talk) 00:57, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also support merge, which redirects the article to New Life Movement. ProKMT (talk) 09:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Confucianism#Criticism as an ATD. Agree with nom that this does not merit a standalone article but some coverage could be added there on the New Life Movement and its connections to Confucianism and fascism. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as original research. Creating a page as a "compromise" with unacceptable editing is not an acceptable justification or proof of notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:12, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I'm not seeing evidence of significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. As far as I can see, of the three sources cited in the article, the only one that discusses the idea of Confucian fascism is the Wakeman article, which seems to have coined it as a provocative and snappy phrase, not an established concept or analysis. The source seems to use the term "Confucian fascism" only twice, both times in quotation marks:
    The title of this article deliberately (and perhaps too provocatively) uses the term "Confucian fascism" to invoke the remarkable blend of Chinese and Western components that went into the founding of the Blue Shirts and that made this movement something other than either traditional personalism or modern fascism.
    Were the missionaries right? Was Chiang's regime, after all, a fascist form of government, in intent if not in fact? In truth, "Confucian fascism" remained iconically ambiguous.
This is not enough coverage to meet WP:GNG or to write a verifiable Wikipedia article. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 23:05, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nagadai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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In this disambiguation page, none of the articles listed have titles related to "Nagadai". It is unclear why this page was created. ZyphorianNexus Talk 10:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. If a disambiguation page has nothing to do with the articles it contains, it need not exist. Eelipe (talk) 16:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at open AfDs, I am also nominating the following related pages because they follows the same format:

Fukudai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), originally nominated by me
Hirodai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), originally nominated by me
Kyukodai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), originally nominated by Miminity

Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating:

Shidai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shindai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Aidai (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hokudai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Meidai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Based on my understanding, "dai" is the Japanese equivalent of saying "uni" instead of university, so these disambiguation pages are basically for "Naga uni". Given the double step from shortening to "Naga Uni" to the Japanese usage of "Nagadai", I do not think this is an appropriate disambiguation page for the English Wikipedia, but I'm happy to be corrected. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:09, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Not appropriate for English Wikipedia, I agree with Significa liberdade, Thanks for the ping. I reviewed it because it was just a disambiguation. I will keep this in my mind for future. Taabii (talk) 07:20, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • 九工大 (valid abbreviation in kanji [12]) is read as ききゅうこうだい / kyuukoudai not "kyukodai" so that's horribly mistitled. Delete as an obvious error. Sorry, closer, that's the last clear vote you're getting from me.
    広大/ひろだい/hirodai is used to refer to Hiroshima University and Hirosaki[13][14][15][16][17][18][19] in several English academic journals, websites, and books but the primary topic is doubtlessly the monotypic genus of parasites named for Hiroshima University.[20][21]. Given the fact that this one actually is apparently used in English, keep? But the genus is the primary topic, undoubtedly, so keep and retitle to encourage creation? Or maybe delete, then when the next UPE gaming AP makes the genus page, add a hatnote? Or temporarily redirect to Hiroshima, because my sources seem to indicate that's the primary topic of the two(at least in English, probably in Japanese too) and add a hatnote to it instead? and then replace
    Fukudai is actually a dab page at jaWiki under a kanji ja:福大, and two of the universities seems to actually use it in their English-language publishing [22][23] but also it has made its way over to English language publications as a fairly common species name, [24][25][26][27][28][29] presumably after one of the universities? (Anybody feel like finding some 1960s and 1970s Japanese entomology journals and finding out?) Also, it's mentioned (unsourced) at University of Fukui and Fukushima University. If a redirect was made from Fukudai to either of those, it would end up at RfD and the result would likely be disambiguate. So it's not unreasonable that somebody will be searching for the word "fukudai" in English, but at the same time, we can't list any of the species names.. but to make it even more complicated, I actually know the word Fukudai as a series of maths problems and methods for calculating determinants[30] pg 136, so it would probably be a valid redirect if we had an article on that method, which we should because it appears to pass the GNG in modern English-language sources, never mind earlier ones, but also it appears to be much more a partial match and therefore I give up and I regret doing a BEFORE because I am loosing my mind trying, and unfortunately succeeding in finding ways these might be useful. I'm probably going to end up with Oblivy on these. Also, RfDing any of these (except for the mistake and Nagadai bc I can't find that used in English in this context, and, believe me, I've looked) would doubtless result in a result to disambiguate.
    To the closer: I am sorry. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 08:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have any evidence at all that these strings are related to short forms of university names. Is it not vastly more likely for example that "Hirodai" is pseudo-Latin for a person called Hiroda? And fukudai (副題) is an ordinary word meaning "subtopic". Imaginatorium (talk) 19:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I mean, we're not a Japanese dictionary, so whether or not these are oridinary Japanese words or commonly used in Japanese isn't actually going to be a deciding factor. I'm looking for evidence that these words are used in English to refer to other the universities, or other topics. I've found that evidence for Fukudai, Hirodai, and Hokudai. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep after finding this on googling "Fukudai" and this at "Aidai". Both seem enough to justify a redirect, and if there are multiple potential redirects from the same term then we need a dab page. I haven't checked all the others, but having found two out of two suggests that these are probably all valid dab pages. PamD 09:44, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Also Hirodai here and here: both being used on English-language sites of the university itself. These aren't "non-notable nicknames" but are short forms used by the respective universities. These dab pages should be kept. PamD 09:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not appropriate or needed for English-language Wikipedia. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:46, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in most cases. I wouldn't agree that these are unlikely search terms in English. These abbreviations for universities show up fairly regularly in English translations of Japanese fiction - there are an awful lot of manga, anime and light novel stories set in high schools, so it's common for characters to talk about or visit universities. I'd go with Delete if there's no evidence that the abbreviation is correct (e.g. I'm not sure about one of the targets for Kyukodai as above), but otherwise it seems reasonable to have them as redirects or disambigs. Adam Sampson (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The question (obviously) is: what are these redirects for? How will they be used? And a valid answer would be that in some cases a reader has come across the contracted name of a Japanese university and wants to know about it. That is the plus; what is the minus? Well, when the reader comes across, perhaps "Tōdai", it is a romanisation of 東大, the short form of 東京大学. But a real dictionary (大辞林) lists five words with the reading 'tōdai', the first and most obvious being lighthouse (灯台), and including 東大 as the last. And of course, this is likely to get mangled as todai, some sort of mediaeval tax on paddyfields. So it gives a totally wrong impression that anything in Japanese that ended up as the string "todai" (more or less) refers to a university. See my comment above on the supposed insect names etc above. It also seems odd to start talking about reading fiction: if a novel translated from Polish talks about a "Reading University", how likely is it that this is actually distinguished from a "Writing University". Fundamentally Japanese has so many homophones that this sort of redirect is not reliable. The short forms are used very commonly, but only in appropriate context. Imaginatorium (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    supposed insect names I take issue with "supposed" here, as it implies I made them up. I found scientific papers about these insects under those names. They have been used. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, of course the insect names are correct, but they fairly obviously have nothing to do with the contractions used for university names. What is your evidence of "Fukudai" being used in English to refer to the university? Imaginatorium (talk) 03:48, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, did you get access to the old Japanese entomology journals then? I'm assuming the insects were most likely named after people called Fukudai (Like V. fukudai is) or after one of the universities. But, if you found the answer to then I suppose we'd better move on to that evidence you requested. Here you go! [31][32][33] GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:41, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Its the equivalent of an acronym in English - it’s basically… ok, so imagine that there were several universities which all used the acronym UCLA. UCLA is not the actual name of any of them, it’s the acronym, but anyone searching for one of them using the acronym is going to be confused by the fact there are several all using the same acronym. It’s that. Anyone searching for Nagadai hoping to get information about Nagaoka University is going to be confused if they get information about Nagano University, or in fact Nagasaki University, which is the other university I definitely know uses Nagadai as a completely normal acronym (I went to the uni down the road, but did stuff there). Absurdum4242 (talk) 04:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Based on this I have some follow-up comments. "U of W" is an English abbreviation, which makes it appropriate for the English Wikipedia. Thus, I think the question is whether Japanese-language abbreviations are appropriate. To determine that, I think it's worth seeing if a) these abbreviations are used in English materials and b) if we have other disambiguation pages for non-English shortenings. Another consideration is that we often keep non-English redirects if they relate to the target page, which would be the case here. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Beyblade X season 1 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:REDUNFORK of List of Beyblade X episodes

Also nominating the second season for the same reason:

Beyblade X season 2 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. It's a redundant fork. There are only two seasons, so having both seasons only under List of Beyblade X episodes would be the wisest move. Eelipe (talk) 16:48, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Miminity! Just came to my notice today that both the articles were put on deletion. I have made few changes to the two articles. I also did some changes to this article, fearing it may fall under WP:REDUNFORK. Let me know your thoughts on it. Thank you and have a great day! VizDsouz (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Genlin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Highly promotional and of very questionable notability over a WP:SUSTAINED period. Amigao (talk) 03:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Agree that the article as written seems quite promotional in tone, and it seems there might possible be conflict on interest concerns, but those are both things to be fixed through editing, not AfD nominations. If you want to go through and reword all the promotional parts, have at it. There seems to be more than enough coverage to establish notability though (some sources aren’t great, but there are enough that are to establish notability). As for WP:SUSTAINED arguments… I see sources from 2016 - 2024 so I can’t see how it applies here? Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed, definitely needs cleanup but WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Keep but WP:STUBIFY is appropriate. DCsansei (talk) 11:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The article seems to have a circular logic to it. Genlin is notable for funding World Dog Alliance, but I cannot find RS to show World Dog Alliance is notable. The whole table in the middle Contributions by Genlin/ World Dog Alliance conflates the two and can be considered original research.

for example The joint efforts of Genlin and lobbyists succeeded in convincing Republic Congressman Jeff Denham to include a ban on dog meat consumption into the 2018 Farm Bill passed on 12 December 2018 in the House of Representatives. The bill obtained bipartisan support, notably from Democratic Congressman Alcee Hastings, who had earlier co-sponsored a separate bill to Congress (H.R. 1406 - To amend the Animal Welfare Act to prohibit the slaughter of dogs and cats for human consumption[1]) to ban consumption of dog and cat meat but did not succeed in garnering enough support for a standalone bill on animal rights. The 2018 Farm Bill was successfully passed alongside with other agricultural and food policies. the footnote is to the actual bill which does not mention either Genlin or World Dog Alliance. Many other blocks of text in the table do the same thing, state that Genlin has affected some sort of change without proper citations. I cannot see how this article can be stubified. I am hampered by lack of Chinese. I realize that WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP, but this falls under WP:TNT.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Wouldn't the passage cited as original research be essentially the same as those promotional parts that Absurdum4242 had already suggested for re-wording / taking out? To suggest taking down the entire page because of those parts seems drastic when the rest of the page is properly referenced. This would be more WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP to me rather than WP:TNT. As previous commentators suggested, there are enough references that are good enough here albeit in different languages. Genlin is Chinese / Japanese, and it must be expected that some of his related sources will be Chinese. With instant translation easier than ever on most browsers, language barrier seems to be a very low bar to suggest for page deletion in my opinion. As for the point about the passage being circular and Genlin being conflated with Word Dog Alliance, I have found another source from 2024 on Chosun Daily (Korea's largest newspaper media, printed in Korean) which is a feature article on the works of both. If a reputable media can print a story about the two together because the two are inherently close, I cannot see why it should pose a reason for suggesting this page be taken down. Here is the link to article I mentioned (please forgive my relative lack of Wiki finesse here meaning I cannot put this into a reference section) -- https://www.chosun.com/international/2024/02/27/ODZKDBS6QJG4NOAZFTST4SQJH4/
The same article would also seem to suggest that Genlin is in fact close with Jeff Denham (quoted in the block of texts in question) as the two travel together to South Korea to meet the Korean legislators there to discuss laws to stop the dog meat trade. That being said the particular passage in question still lacks proper citations and I do agree a few other parts of the page also needs rewriting / taken out and/or better citations. EAWDA (talk) 04:38, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here is another source on the BBC from 2018 quoting World Dog Alliance. This source was not cited on this Wiki page but I reckon it adds to the point about it being notable.
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45085514 EAWDA (talk) 07:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Text - H.R.1406 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): To amend the Animal Welfare Act to prohibit the slaughter of dogs and cats for human consumption". www.congress.gov. 23 March 2017. Retrieved 18 January 2025.

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Keep as per my reply to WomenArtistUpdates above (didn't realize the existence of a 3rd discussion at the time of my posting, so my entries above should've been posted here given the timing of my comments was after this 3rd discussion started. If anyone feels it necessary for me to delete my comments above and repost them here please let me know). EAWDA (talk) 09:29, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments EAWDA has !voted twice. I stand by my opinion that this is article does not show notability of either Genlin or World Dog Alliance. Below is a source assessment table which shows the number of primary sources, press releases, and irrelevant citations. Looking at the history of the page, the overwhelming activity is from SPAs. World Dog Alliance draft was rejected back in [34] I hope another editor can weigh in on this article to create a consensus. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:58, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Yes Yes No Shanghai university passing mention of Peng Hongling as an honorary director No
No No No Puffy biographical info on WDA (primary source) No
page from wayback machine. I cannot translate text ? Unknown
No interview with puffy interview No
page from wayback machine. I cannot translate text ? Unknown
page from wayback machine. I cannot translate text ? Unknown
page from wayback machine. I cannot translate text ? Unknown
Wenhui Daily News culture listing for anti-consumption of dog meat with puffy interview of Peng Hongling ? Unknown
South China Morning Post promo piece in the weekend section ? Unknown
No IMDB No No IMDB No
No IMDB No No IMDB No
Animal Protection Association of the Republic of China NGO promotion of World Dog Day ? Unknown
Yes Yes No article covering the passage of "Taiwan: Animal Protection Law Amended' no mention of Peng Hong Ling No
NewTalk 新頭殼 ~ Peng Hong Ling comment on the passage of "Animal Protection Act" ? Unknown
No No An open letter from the Movement Group to President Tsai "Incorporating Animal Protection into the Constitution" No OpEd No
Yes Yes Lobbying Firm Profile: Missy Edwards Strategies No passing mention of World Dog Alliance an a donor No
Yes Yes Lobbying Firm Profile: Prime Policy Group No passing mention of World Dog Alliance an a donor No
Yes Yes No passing mention of World Dog Alliance an a donor No
No Animal Friendly Network No churnalish about "The World Dog Alliance (WDA), which is committed to promoting legislation in the United States, is the source of this huge wave" No
Yes Yes No not mentioned in this legislative listing No
Yes Yes No not mentioned in this legislative listing No
No No No petition on World Dog Alliance site (primary) No
No No No PRESS RELEASE: Paid Content from ACCESS Newswire. The AP news staff was not involved in its creation. No
No no mention of Genlin No
No article about dog meat. no mention of Genlin No
No article about 'Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Affairs: Dogs have been "specialized" as companion animals and should not be included in livestock and poultry management.' no mention of Genlin No
WORLD ANIMAL NEWS No Victory! Jakarta Bans The Dog & Cat Meat Trade Making It The 21st Jurisdiction In Indonesia To End The Barbaric Industry - no mention of Genlin No
No No No PRESS RELEASE: Paid Content from ACCESS Newswire. The AP news staff was not involved in its creation. No
No No Written Evidence submitted by World Dog Alliance (WDA)(AAB0002) No primary source No
No mention of World Dog Alliance as one of the supporting organizations No
Yes Yes "Could Chinese millionaire be reason for real estate industry nightmare?". paywalled, but lloks like an article about the purchase of real estate in LA. ? Unknown
No No No article on World Dog Alliance site. (primary) No
paywalled ? Unknown
No No No press release No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
  • Note that my keep above is not based on sources that are currently in the article and I suggested WP:STUBIFY is appropriate. The source assessment shows no indication that a WP:BEFORE search has been complete. There is substantial coverage of his lawsuit against his former property broker for misrepresenting his house's square footage (including secondary coverage about its effects on the real estate market) [35] with national coverage in ABC [36] and the New York Times [37]. There's also coverage of his attempt to buy a seat in the Japanese Diet [38]. A number of articles used in the Japanese Wikipedia article also appear to be significant coverage [39] [40] [41] [42]. Note that most of the sources I found are only in Japanese (or Chinese used in the Japanese Wikipedia) so it's very likely that if someone who is competent in Chinese were to do a native-language search for sources more would be found, but I think this provides more than enough to meet the minimum for GNG. DCsansei (talk) 14:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment DCsansei has !voted twice. Also noting that There is substantial coverage of his lawsuit against his former property broker for misrepresenting his house's square footage does not move this dilettante millionaire anywhere closer to notable --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:44, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Delete. The claim of notability in the first paragraph is "named as an Outstanding Alumni" of their university and that is not a good sign as this is not a highly prestigious award that would indicate that they are regarded as an important figure. The sources I have checked as well as the source assessment table above make clear that this is not a notable topic as it has not received significant, sustained coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Asparagusstar (talk) 02:45, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: providing another source assessment (first time doing one, please excuse template mistakes) below with the sources ignored in the one above. DCsansei (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
Yes Yes Yes Yes
Yes Yes Yes Yes
Yes Yes Yes Yes
Yes Yes The website is a vertical of Sankei Shimbun ~ He is discussed but only as one of the examples ~ Partial
Yes Yes HK01 Yes Yes
Unclear if he is affiliated Unclear Yes ? Unknown
Wen Wei Po is a Chinese-government newspaper Yes ? Unknown
Yes Yes Appears to be news produced by Sina Corporation Yes Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.



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