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WP:G5 tagging

Hi there, when you put a G5 tag on an article, the username to add is the sockmaster, not the sockpuppet. It's not a huge deal, but it saves admins the step of looking up the SPI. -- asilvering (talk) 02:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering: Got it, thanks for the heads-up! TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zakir Ali Zaidi moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Zakir Ali Zaidi. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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Your email

I'm not sure what you're wanting me to do with the information your sent me via email. You haven't provided any evidence or diffs of disruption and Checkusers can't link IPs to accounts, so there's little I can do there. I suggest you report your concerns via WP:SPI.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I will provide diffs at WP:SPI or by email. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome TheBirdsShedTears! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2024 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

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Zakir Ali Khan moved to draftspace

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I see that you reverted my draftification and wrote I was "disruptive editing" and "misuse of NPP rights". I think that’s a bit excessive since I’m not the only one who believes this fails WP:N. If you truly think it meets WP:N, you could have let it pass through AFC, but it seems you want to avoid that route. No problem, I’ll take it to AFD, though not necessarily right now, as I’m occupied elsewhere. But please AGF and refrain from calling our edits disruptive. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib:, Since we seem to have different views on the notability of this article, it might be better to take it to AfD so the community can decide its fate. I could be wrong about its notability, so I've also left a message on the article's talk page to seek the input of the editor who tagged it. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, I wasn’t entirely sure about its WP:N either, but when I saw the WP:N tag, I thought we should get it passed through AFC. Because AFC is a better way to preserve an article than taking it to AFD and risking deletion. However, your reversion of my draftification and labeling my edits as disruptive was quite disappointing. But no worries; I’m glad you started the discussion on the article's tp. I might join in later as well. Happy editing! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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dealing with copyvios

Thanks for spotting the copyvio at Draft:North Star of Herschel Island but please; when you find a copyvio, remove the offending material then request revdel. Nthep (talk) 15:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nthep:, Got it, thanks for the heads-up! TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for the feedback

Dear TheBirdsShedTears , Thank you for the editorial feedback on Draft:Anand Reddi. I have made the changes you have requested add more notable referenes, deleted primary referenes and inline website references and also shorted the prose and made it less promotional.

I have also added new editorial feedback from the Treehouse chat:

[7:56:13 AM] <A09> sources however aren't the only problem. I still think it'd be better to shorten the prose to just facts and statements indirectly related to Reddi. backgrounds on certain topics can be linked through other, less specific articles.

[7:57:13 AM] <A09> remove external links from the last prose paragraph and place them in external links section. links in article body should only link to wikipedia pages, everything else goes in a footer

[8:02:38 AM] <A09> I have spotchecked the prose and there is still lots of space to improve, especially as certain phrases sounded very promotional. I suggest you first try to improve these things I have listed above and then resubmit your draft.

[8:02:40 AM] <WhiteAlpaca38> will add this additional feedback Trex32 (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Yury Yuriyovich Shikula

Hello TheBirdsShedTears, I have done the changes you advised, please check it. Thanks for your attention. ColTip (talk) 18:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ColTip: please consider trimming award section as previously stated. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carmine Nappi

You made the right choice to send it to AfD. It seems that no-one has improved it, and it may prove to be unimprovable. Wikipedia is improved either way at the end of the discussion, though I do hate "no consensus' ones. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Timtrent: In some cases, my AfD approach is to improve the article, and this one is no exception. ;) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May it bear fruit. If not, may the fallen fruit be composted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel requests

Hi there, when you make a revdel request like at Bimal Das Gupta, make sure to put the revision numbers in the template so the responding admin doesn't have to go hunting for the original problem. Thanks! -- asilvering (talk) 05:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder! I've undone the edit and re-submitted with the revision numbers added. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Waziri Adio draft

Hello TheBirdsShedTears,

Thank you for the comment. I would like to state categorically that I have no relationship with Oyindamola Bello. I only improved on the draft after Wikipedia showed the draft to me. Ethan123n (talk) 15:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ethan123n: Thank you for your clarification. Could you please elaborate on how you came across this draft? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was after I read a book authored by Waziri Adio, who is a well known Journalist and public servant in Nigeria. I decided to get more information about him but I couldn't get a comprehensive and concise information about him, that led me to search for him on Wikipedia and was told that there was not article in his name and I opted to create a Wikipedia profile for him, it was at this point that i came across the draft by Oyindamola Bello and I decided to improve on the draft.

Thank you. Ethan123n (talk) 17:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ethan123n: Thank you for providing the details. Since this is your first contribution to Wikipedia beyond this draft, I'm interested in understanding the context more clearly. Could you please confirm whether you were specifically invited to work on this draft, or if you discovered it independently during your research? and could you please clarify if you used Wikipedia's internal search to locate the draft or through an invitation link? This will help other reviewers better grasp the full picture. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was through sn internal Wikipedia search. I was not invited to work on this article although I edited some Wikipedia articles some year back, 2017 I think but I lost the account when I misplaced my device. I intend to become a regular contributor to Wikipedia as time permit.

Thank you 102.91.92.170 (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sharing these details. Happy editing. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:07, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you too! Ethan123n (talk) 10:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for New Article on Pakistan Navy Submarine Force

Hi there, I'm glad to see you've recovered from the block. As one of the most experienced South Asian editors I've encountered, your work on Pakistan military topics, especially the Pakistan Navy, has always impressed me with its professionalism, quality, and depth of research. I have a request: could you consider developing an article on the Pakistan Navy Submarine Force? Your expertise and insight would greatly benefit this topic. Thank you for considering my request. Ainty Painty (talk) 07:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ainty Painty: Thanks for your message. I haven't looked into the Pakistan Navy Submarine Force yet, but it seems an interesting topic. I'll do some research, and if it meets the relevant notability criteria, I'd be happy to work on it in the upcoming days. Appreciate the suggestion! TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 07:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for taking the time to create the article! Your thorough research and detailed writing have truly elevated this topic and filled a significant gap in coverage. As always, your work showcases professionalism and expertise, and it's a pleasure to see another high-quality contribution to South Asian military topics. Great job, and I look forward to seeing more of your excellent work! Ainty Painty (talk) 15:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

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@Schwede66: thank you. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 01:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Verify-Sy (December 19)

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Request to Create an Article on the Defence Security Force (DSF)

Would you like to create an article on the Defence Security Force (DSF), formerly known as the Defence Services Guards (DSG)? It is a Corps-level formation within the Pakistan Army, tasked with the protection of defense and other military installations across the country. The DSF is comparable to the Defence Security Corps of the Indian Army. I saw information about this force a few years ago; there were just a few lines about it in this article.

Here is the detailed article [1] and some other coverage of deployment, training appointments etc are: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] [8], [9], [10], [11] Ainty Painty (talk) 04:18, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently working on culture-related articles and, to be honest, I don't know much about the Defence Security Force (DSF). For now, I don't feel confident enough to take on this topic. That said, once I'm done with my current projects, I might consider it, but I can't say for sure. Thanks for your understanding! TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever you feel ready, feel free to take on the article. No rush at all. Best of luck with your current work, and thanks for letting me know! Ainty Painty (talk) 14:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ainty Painty: After a thorough search on Google, including books, I couldn't uncover much about the size of the Defence Security Force (DSF). Most of the information I found comes from primary sources like hilal.gov.pk, with only passing mentions in secondary sources, which leaves me uncertain about its notability. While primary sources are valuable, the notability of military units is determined by their size and role (in my opinion) and coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources. Without more concrete details on the DSF's scale and a broader range of sources, it's tough to say if it meets the criteria for inclusion. Looks like it's still a bit of a mystery! However, if an article is created, it might end up as a start class entry, which would be an injustice to the DSF, given its significance in the historical context of British colonial rule from which it emerged as the Army Department of Constabulary in 1923. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please help find one more source with in-depth coverage similar to this, or a source with about one paragraph about the DSF? TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays!

Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025!  ♦ Maliner (talk) 21:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NPP Reviews

Hi, TheBirdsShedTears, and thank you for all your help thus far with the 2025 NPP Backlog Drive! Even if only for the first couple of days, being in the top ten reviewers is an incredible feat!

I wanted to reach out because I was double-checking a few of your reviews and noticed IWF International Solidarity Championships, which you had marked as reviewed. At the time of the review, the article had two sources, one of which is primary and doesn't provide significant coverage of the event and the other of which appears to be a dead link. Given this, it would make sense to check if sources are available to establish notability. If so, you should tag the article as needing more sources. I have unmarked the article as reviewed for the moment.

As you continue reviewing for the backlog, make sure to keep the handy dandy flowchart in mind. Thanks again for all your hard work, and let me know if you have any further questions, comments, and/or concerns. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the heads-up. I believe it might have occurred accidentally. I usually address such articles with the necessary tags. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 04:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! As another quick question, I noticed you tagged a few pages for notability and marked them as reviewed (e.g., Goonew). Could you clarify your rationale for this? Generally, when there are unresolved notability issues, it's best to hold off on marking the article as reviewed until those concerns are addressed. This ensures that problematic articles don’t slip through without proper vetting. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade: The article has been unreviewed since 5 February 2024. I am currently reviewing older articles, tagging non-notable ones with a notability tag, and marking them as reviewed to help reduce the NPP backlog. I believe leaving them unreviewed does not contribute to reducing the backlog. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick response! I completely understand the desire to help clear out older unreviewed articles. That said, marking an article as reviewed while tagging it for notability can create confusion as the "reviewed" status signals that the article meets Wikipedia's minimum notability standards. If the notability of an article is in question, it should remain unreviewed until either the issue is resolved or the article is redirected, merged, or sent to AfD. I understand the backlog can feel daunting, but accurate reviews are critical to maintaining the integrity of the patrol process. Thanks again for your work, and let me know if you have any follow-up questions, comments, and/or concerns. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Significa liberdade, FWIW I don't entirely agree with this advice. I think it's fine to add {{notability}} and mark as reviewed new articles which are borderline for notability but have a low risk for harm (e.g. topics without promotional potential or contentious material) _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade:, For clarity, I haven't marked BLPs~~—particularly those~~ with contentious material or potential COI—as reviewed. I've also taken several such articles to AfD and draftified many created within the last 90 days. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill:, Thank you! I have marked only non-promotional articles with no potential COI as reviewed, using the notability tag, to help reduce the backlog as much as possible. Also, I perform a WP:BEFORE search before taking action on such articles. I have also added sources to notable article (in my opinion) before reviewing them. Please see Jetullah Qarri. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its only Presidency of Religious Affairs not Republic of Turkey Presidency of Religious Affairs

Is it? Do you see the official logo of DIB on wikipedia page?

Look again closely: https://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/File:Diyanet_%C4%B0%C5%9Fleri_Ba%C5%9Fkanl%C4%B1%C4%9F%C4%B1_yeni_logo.svg

It says "Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Cumhurbaşkanlığı Diyanet İşleri Başkanlığı"

And more, Türkiye officially changed its international name:

https://turkiye.un.org/tr/184798-t%C3%BCrkiyenin-ad%C4%B1-bmde-yabanc%C4%B1-dillerde-de-art%C4%B1k-t%C3%BCrkiye

Now would you revert your changes?

I hope you find this reliable enough and regard them as "reliable sources"

Umarım öyle olur. 178.241.156.97 (talk) 11:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of focusing on the entire text of the logo, which appears a description rather than the actual title, pay attention to the bold text that reads Diyanet İşleri Başkanlığı (Presidency of Religious Affairs). For future reference, please visit the official website of DIB. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Let's check diyabet's website: www.diyanet.gov.tr

It says:

"T.C. Diyanet İşleri Başkanlığı Resmi İnternet Sitesi"

If you make a mistake it is wise to accept it and move forward. Insisting on a mistake is really....pointless.

I hope you actually use official and "reliable sources" in the future for future references and claims.

Have a nice and reliable day with "reliable sources".

Cheers kanka! 178.246.223.0 (talk) 14:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Read paragraph number 5 here. It reads; By the Law 5634, published on 29.04.1950, “Diyanet İşleri Reisliği” (Directorate of Religious Affairs) was changed as “Diyanet İşleri Başkanlığı” (Presidency of Religious Affairs) the staff of mosques and smaller mosques and people in charge of them that were assigned to the General Directorate of Charitable Foundations, were given to the Presidency of Religious Affairs again. Read this carefully than making less useful statements. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

now read it carefully:

https://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/MevzuatMetin/21.5.2646.pdf

RESMÎ YAZIŞMALARDA UYGULANACAK USUL VE ESASLAR HAKKINDA YÖNETMELİK Cumhurbaşkanı Kararının Tarihi : 9/6/2020 Sayısı : 2646 Yayımlandığı Resmî Gazetenin Tarihi : 10/6/2020 Sayısı : 31151

Başlık MADDE 10- (1) Başlık (antet), belgeyi gönderen idarenin adının belirtildiği bölümdür.

(2) Başlık, belgenin yazı alanının üst kısmına ortalanarak yazılır. İlk satıra “T.C.” kısaltması, ikinci satıra idarenin adı büyük harflerle, üçüncü satıra birimin adı ilk harfleri büyük diğerleri küçük harflerle ortalanarak yazılır. Ancak bağlı veya ilgili idarelerde ilk satıra “T.C.” kısaltması, ikinci satıra bağlı veya ilgili olunan idarenin adı büyük harflerle, üçüncü satıra idarenin adı ilk harfleri büyük diğerleri küçük harflerle ve dördüncü satıra da birimin adı ilk harfleri büyük diğerleri küçük harflerle ortalanarak yazılabilir (Örnek 2).

Then take a look at this official document (especially the header the name of the institution) given in the article:

https://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Presidency_of_Religious_Affairs#/media/File%3ANahit_Serbes_Diyanet_%C4%B0%C5%9Fleri_Ba%C5%9Fkanl%C4%B1%C4%9F%C4%B1_Cami_A%C3%A7%C4%B1l%C4%B1%C5%9F_Belgesi.jpg

What did you write:

"Read this carefully than making less useful statements."

Indeed! I have made useful contributions, not claims with "reliable sources"

Don't forget to revert your changes.

Have a nice day with "reliable sources"

Cheers mate! 178.246.223.0 (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Create Article on the Defence Complex Islamabad (DCI)

Hi again, would you also consider developing an article on Defence Complex Islamabad, (DCI) also referred as New GHQ Islamabad, Following the 1971 war and the subsequent war inquiry commission report highlighting the lack of communication and coordination between Pakistan’s three military services, the Zulfikar Ali Bhutto government initiated a series of military reforms in the 1970s. One of the key outcomes was the formation of the Higher Defence Organization (HDO), which introduced major changes in the structure of Pakistan’s armed forces. This included the establishment of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, the creation of the position of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, the establishment of a Joint Staff Headquarters, and the reorganization of the independent Commanders-in-Chief of the Army, Navy, and Air Force into the position of Chiefs of Staff.

As part of these reforms, the Bhutto government also decided to relocate the headquarters of the Pakistan Air Force from Peshawar, Navy from Karachi, and Army from Rawalpindi to Islamabad Capital Territory. The first two phases of the Defence Complex Islamabad (DCI) were successfully completed: the Navy headquarters moved to the E-8 sector, and the Air Force headquarters moved to the E-9 sector.[12],[13],[14]

However, Phase 3 (Sector E-10 & D-11), which entailed the relocation of the Army’s General Headquarters (GHQ), the Joint Staff Headquarters, and the Ministry of Defence Headquarters, faced delays primarily due to the high cost, as well as the economic challenges posed by the national and global financial crises of 2007-2008.

The plan to move the Army GHQ was revived after the 2009 Pakistan Army General Headquarter attack and subsequent security concerns. Since then, significant progress has been made in land acquisition, construction of boundary walls, and other preparatory works for the relocation of the Army’s headquarters, the Joint Staff Headquarters, and the Ministry of Defence Headquarters to the capital.[15],[16],[17],[18],[19] Ainty Painty (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]