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List of future tallest buildings

Thanks for correcting the information on List of future tallest buildings. The IP editor making the repeated changes is clearly not willing to follow advice or Wikipedia editing practice. It may be prudent not to revert their edit again as this can still constitute edit warring. I have reported them to admins for a block. Thanks. Robynthehode (talk) 10:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Robynthehode: I'm actually quite flat out with work IRL, so I wouldn't be able to keep reverting anyway :') . But with that said: I've been reverting strictly under the impression that they continue to add factual errors despite surpassing a final warning not to. They've repeatedly ignored these warnings, and have not engaged in discussion with either you or me. Their edit is not only wrong, but breaking the format of the list itself. I imagine administrators will take that into account. I've reported the IP at WP:AIV for the reasons described. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 10:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I reported the editor under the 3RR rule but its gone way beyond that. I also left a note on their talk page warning them again not to revert after notification of the report to admins but they have ignored that too. I am going to ask for a substantial block - often its only a day or so for a first block for a newish editor but I think they need more time to reflect and learn about Wikipedia policy. Thanks again. Robynthehode (talk) 10:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Robynthehode: I'm gone for two hours and plenty has happened... at least things aren't dull here, I'll save that for the project! With the IP blocked and the page protected, hopefully their disruption ceases there. I can see you've opened an SPI (I think your comment has been chopped off in the SPI?) re the new account that added back the vandalism. Will be interesting to see what that bears out considering is does look pretty suspect. Either way, pleasure working with you! —MelbourneStar☆^talk 13:03, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes I can't believe the new user isn't the IP user previously. The block was at 11:05 and the edit from the new user at 11:41. Enough time for them to work out how to register (so they CAN read!) but not enough for them to read about possible consequence of trying to avoid a block!! You try to help a new user and then they go and act like this. Most of my time on Wikipedia is dealing with vandals or other disruptive edits. If your user name reflects where you're from? then hope Melbourne is good (I have been, I have family in Adelaide but live in UK) and coronavirus is not affecting you too badly. Thanks and nice working with you too! Robynthehode (talk) 13:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Robynthehode: Well, the plot thickens. Not only are they the same editor, but rather they're actually using their talk page. Pity that wasn't the case on their IP talk page. I'll make note of that on the SPI thread you've opened.

Thanks Robyn, I am in fact from Melbourne. Things are a little crazy, in lockdown (as is most places in Australia)... but I imagine things are pretty bad in the U.K.! :S hope you're staying safe! —MelbourneStar☆^talk 14:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Update on the edits.

The caste name is Gowda and not Gowndar as mentioned. Secondly, Her son's name isn't named after the actor MGR.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetankcp (talk • contribs)

@Chetankcp: I've restored your edits having verified what you've just told me. Please in future always use edit summaries, otherwise other editors won't know what you're doing. Also, please sign (~~~~) at the end of a message. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 15:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, the recent edit doesn't comply Wikipedia guidelines. The caste name as mentioned in the source is Gounder and not Gowda. If there is dis-ambiguity regarding the name it can be removed until it is cited by proper WP:RS. Poorly sourced material on WP:BLP must be immediately removed see WP:BLPREMOVE.Regards--Universalrahu (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Universalrahu: you're more than welcome to reverse it; although, keep in mind Chetankcp's edit and my reinstatement of their edit was also an exercise of WP:BLPREMOVE (re Son's name), so you'll need to remove the mentioning of the son being named after X person also. I'm otherwise unsure about what you and the previous editor are referring to re Gowda/Gounder — so I'll let you both work that out. My initial concern was the removal of what appeared to be sourced content, which turned out to be false anyway. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:11, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

I was actually concerned about the "Gowda" issue. I have made a note on Chetankcp's talk page. Thanks.--Universalrahu (talk) 05:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar!!!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		This is for your valuable efforts on countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 09:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Path slopu: thank you so much, that's very kind of you! judging from your edits you appear to be doing an amazing job countering vandalism too! :) please keep up the wonderful work! kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 10:03, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

William Windom

Hi,

I read your email about the notes I left about William Windom. I did leave some citations. However, I poured over 6000 newspaper articles and interviews with Mr. Windom at which time he mentioned his marriages, their ups and downs, and made comments about them. It is very difficult to narrow down each newspaper where he made the comments. I did the best I could.

I am the creator of a website dedicated to his memory and have spent 4 months doing research.

Thanks! Tvnutt (talk) 16:19, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Invite to Revive WikiProject:Shopping Centers!

Hey there MelbourneStar! I'm Windyshadow32, a new member of the sadly inactive Wikiproject Shopping Centers. I am trying to revive this project to highlight the unique stories of malls across the country and the world especially as we lose more and more of them. Undoubtedly, we will lose shopping malls due to the challenges we face at this moment. Your account was listed as involved in the project, and I would like to know if you would like to help revive it! I can't take on this massive project without you! Please let me know if you'd be willing to help; I really appreciate it!

Windyshadow32 (talk) 07:04, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Windyshadow32: unfortunately, I've been pretty flat-out IRL. However, I'm more than happy to observe and chime in here-and-there. With that said, I've seen the changes you've brought to that particular WikiProject, and am impressed! keep at it :) —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Horror Newsletter - June 2020

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Amending content

Hello,

We exchanged a few messages back in October last year regarding me trying to edit content of a page. After many delays, I've been able to put in sources requested for the biography of Professor Richard Rose, and also to update the text, as the version now on line is way out of date.

Do I just post this and wait to see if Wikipedia thinks its ok, or can it be checked before I post it?

Also is it not allowed that current content be deleted and replaced? Would I simply just add the updated information and leave the outdated information on the page too?

Thanks, Vic — Preceding unsigned comment added by VictorBailey25 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi @VictorBailey25: my response to you from October still stands. If you are to add content to the biography, or update it, please ensure that you add reliable sources that are independent of the subject and published. Please refer to our policy on verifiability.

Additionally, any changes in content must conform with our policy on neutrality, especially with pertinence to tone. Prior to editing the article, I'd strongly suggest you read our policy on conflicts of interest as it appears you have a connection with the subject.

Hypothetically, if the content you added did not conform to these policies or other policies not mentioned here, we would not delete the article because you disagree with the article. As it stands, you've not identified where the article is out of date or content is incorrect. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 10:00, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Removing content without mentioning reason.

Hello, this can happen when the content removed is so bad that the reason would be obvious. In this case the source was of poor quality, the url was broken, the claim itself was an arbitrary classification based on size worthy of a powerpoint presentation made in 5 minutes for a highschool assignment on the subject. I'm reverting the edit again, if you feel like there's value in this content being in the article, feel free to rework the content into the article, ideally by adding value, moving it to an appropriate section, and providing a better source.--TZubiri (talk) 16:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@TZubiri: That's your opinion. So how about you stop edit warring and open a discussion on the article's talk page and explain your changes and gain consensus for amending the definition. The content appears to be reliably sourced (CTBUH and others), and I'll note that the onus is on you to gain consensus -- not me to rework your changes. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Strange notification

phab:T258342 I beat you to it I guess? - Alexis Jazz 10:21, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: that's very strange indeed. But yes, you are correct. I got an edit conflict saying that an identical revision had already been made (yours). —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:06, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Horror Newsletter - July 2020

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Wikipedia noticeboard

You probably already got pinged but I wanted to let you know that a User which you gave warnings to I reported at the administrators noticeboard. You don’t have to weigh in, I just wanted to let you know. Happy editing (and thank you for the barnstar)! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:01, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you @Lima Bean Farmer: I've responded accordingly. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I just saw! Thank you for your timely response. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:IGNORE

If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 07:48, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@GhostOfDanGurney: speaking of ignoring, you've ignored the consensus for removing the hatnote, and hence your edit doesn't improve Wikipedia after all. Funny that. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:52, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

And you have any authority to close the discussion and make a ruling on any consensus? Your rhetoric makes me laugh. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:00, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@GhostOfDanGurney: Actually, there's WP:EDITCONSENSUS on my side, and of course the WP:1RR discretionary sanctions you violated.. sorry, "ignored" because you thought it was an improvement, when, as that discussion goes to show — very few people agree with you. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 08:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't you know by now that consensus isn't about majority? Like I said, the hat need not be permanent. It's a strange coincidence that we have two people with the same surname and the same common name in two different current events at the same time, don't you agree, friend? GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

As discussed in that section, which you've probably ignored too, Kamala Harris only refers to one person. James Harris, known as (only) Kamala, is a different person. With that said, either you're ignoring it or you're ignoring it. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 08:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm actually doing neither, because it's irrelevant to my point. Both can be true. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

So violating 1RR was not about WP:IGNORE after all? —MelbourneStar☆^talk 08:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

The improvement was still made. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:38, 13 August 2020 (UTC) Also, someone else pointed out that the talk discussion is actually not as easy to find as you're making it out to be. You pinging me to tattle on me was actually the first I was aware of it. Jump to whatever false conclusions you wish with that info. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 08:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@GhostOfDanGurney: just because you didn't bother looking for it, is still not a justification to violate 1RR despite a warning on the header not to. If I followed your logic, I'd be violating 1RR too on the basis that I'm "making an improvement" by removing unnecessary content (see? we both could play that game). But no, I'm patient, and have been here long enough to know that what's meant to be, is meant to be -- and what's not, will be removed. If not now, tomorrow, by somebody else. Make of that what you will. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 09:47, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

idgaf he believes in abortion

JUSTIN TRUDEAU BELIEVES IN ABORTION LOOK IT UP ALSO ABORTIONS AREN'T CATHOLIC Blueshocker (talk) 05:45, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@Blueshocker: firstly, please stop shouting and assume good faith. Secondly, what Trudeau (or any person for that matter) believes is up to that person -- not for you to interpret or decide for them. To be upfront about it, Wikipedia is not interested in your beliefs. Thank you, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 05:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)