Template:Did you know nominations/Perothopinae

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Perothopinae

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A perothopid similar to P. witticki, P. muscidus

... that about 500 beetles of the subfamily Perothopinae, P. witticki, all fell off of an oak tree over three days? Source: "It was estimated that about 500 beetles dropped." https://www.jstor.org/stable/3999409?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
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Created by Memer15151 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Perothopinae; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: thank you! the article looks all good to me and the hook is certainly interesting. I'm doubtful about the image as to whether it brings much value to show one with a completely different species, though similar. I searched for images of witticki but couldn't find any. This hook might also need rewording to make it shorter and clearer, as the article isn't about the single species but rather the parent subfamily, I don't have any other suggestions though, but will leave the nomination open for future comments. the article is great, though! NotAGenious (talk) 18:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I agree about the image. I have created an alt that rephrases it:

ALT1: ... that in 1969, about 500 beetles of the genus Perothops all fell off of an oak tree over three days? Source: "I conservatively estimate that over 500 adult beetles dropped from this tree during the 3 day period." https://www.jstor.org/stable/3999409?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

I hope that this alt will fulfill the needs to be promoted to a DYK. UserMemer (chat) Tribs 03:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: Is this ready to be approved? If not, what needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 15:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Apologizes for the delay; this nomination is

approved, though I propose a bit trimmed version ALT1b: ...that in 1969, about 500 beetles of the genus Perothops all fell off of an oak tree in three days? The promoter may edit as necessary. Greetings, NotAGenious (talk) 18:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: I think that ALT1b is good. Thanks! UserMemer (chat) Tribs 23:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Memer15151 and NotAGenious:, this article has serious issues with sourcing. The respective morphology sections are essentially reproductions of their sources, which per WP:CLOP is forbidden on WP. There is also considerable original research, where you have analysed what the source says and drawn your own conclusions. I will tag the article for these issues; unless they are speedily fixed, this nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:38, 31 January 2024 (UTC)