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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by JuniperChill talk 09:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
Top: Sophie Anderson in July 2022. Bottom: Rebecca More in July 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 249 past nominations.

Launchballer 17:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Both articles are new enough and long enough (Slag Wars doesn't register as 5x by the DYK tool, but comparing the pre-expansion version it is 7x). All of the hooks are cited and meet DYKINT, though my personal preference is ALT2 (ALT0 focuses on a third party, ALT1 relies on knowledge of Healy, and ALT3 is "people get famous, are featured on BBC"). Images both appear free, being extracted from free videos. No close paraphrasing found - Earwig flags one source at 53%, but that's because of the large block quote. Looks good to go!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! The reason Slag Wars doesn't register as 5x is because DYKcheck picks up stuff from this version, which picks up around 563 false positive characters from an unformatted list.--Launchballer 22:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is getting perilously close to timing out. What else do I have to do to get this promoted?--Launchballer 14:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 17:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I'm GhostRiver. I'll be reviewing this article against the good article criteria. By doing so, I am earning points for the WikiCup and the January 2025 GAN Backlog Drive. Although a quid pro quo review is not necessary, it is appreciated. You can see what open good article nominations I have here.

I will go through the article section by section checking it against the criteria. Once I have finished my review, I will place the article on hold, giving you seven days to respond. If you need more time, just reach out! While I'll always put the article on hold once it's ready for you to look at, you may start making changes before I complete my review. — GhostRiver 21:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

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Added.
  • Don't need with More continuing to keep abreast of Anderson's life in the lede (it's fine in the body)
Cut.
  • was scuppered by too casual tone
Changed to 'thwarted'.
  • More announced Anderson's death in December 2023, though she had in fact died the month before again, for the lede you can just shorten this to "Anderson died in November 2023" (then say "paid tribute to her instead of repeating the surname)
Reworded.
  • Drag queen names linked here but not in the body
Added links.

Career

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Formation and virality

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  • Link first instances of More and Anderson's names
Added.
  • in which both had sex don't see this part in the source
The ref was in the wrong place; I moved it.
  • to the pair's attitude to sex mirroring that of some queer men.to the pair's "fuck without fear of judgment" attitude, which mirrored that of some queer men.
Tweaked.
Added.
Modified.
Added.
  • Comma after named after and sampling the pair
Added.

Later works

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Added.
  • Last sentence of the first para should be restructured - the winner doesn't tie into the streaming hosts
Article doesn't mention series 2's winner, so cut the winner.
  • "though with news of her death was broken by More the month after"
Modified.
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  • Not clear from first sentence that the Frock Destroyers are a musical group
Added.
  • While the Frock Destroyers parody is relevant, the Vice and Healy quotes don't really add to the article, especially if Healy's comment wasn't picked up by third-party sources
Cut.

Discography

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  • I would not include this section at all, given that there's only one single and the duo split up. Instead there should be prose about the single in the "Career" section
I must take you on on this. Any amount of prose about the single anywhere would be undue given that it received no coverage in RSs (with the possible exception of "the second series used the same theme tune as the first", which is already in Slag Wars's article and would be cruft here). MOS:DISCOGRAPHY suggests that all musical works should be listed in tables.
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  • Reference [4] is incomplete
Fixed. I believe I've addressed your concerns; please ping if I've missed anything.--Launchballer 03:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GhostRiver: Please address the above.--Launchballer 22:44, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

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  • No stability concerns, nominator is significant contributor
  • Images are properly licensed and directly relevant to article
  • Earwig flagged a direct quote, everything else comes up fine

Review by IntentionallyDense

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  • Seeing as the reviewer has been inactive, I'll take over this review. Just to stay organized I'll be starting the review from scratch. I use the GA Table and make most of my comments below the table so it is easier for nominators to respond to my feedback. I usually start with assessing images, stability, and sources then move on from there. I am fine with nominators responding to my feedback as it is given or all at the end. If you have any questions feel free to either ask me here or leave a message on my talk page! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Prose is great! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 03:37, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. All relevant MOS sections are complied with. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 03:37, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. reflist exists. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). I checked the following sources and found no issues: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7]. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2c. it contains no original research. No OR. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. No plagiarism. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Article addresses all main aspects. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). No unnecessary detail. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Article is neutral. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. article is stable. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Photo is tagged appropriately. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Photo captioned appropriately. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
7. Overall assessment. As outlined above, this article meets all GA criteria. The nominator was even willing to make some optional changes to prose which was nice of them. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 03:37, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have never seen that done before, but I've merged them into a "Works" section and provided subsections.--Launchballer 05:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. I don't have much experience with these types of articles so if you think it's better the other way I'm fine with it being changed back. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 03:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • For criteria 1, 3, and 4 I usually read through the article carefully and provide feedback as I read. This often looks like me suggesting things be reworded, asking for further explanation etc. Oftentimes I will ask questions about the article that come from a place of not being educated on the topic. Sometimes these questions don't have answers or don't result in any changes needing to be made. I ask these questions so I can better understand the topic and thus better provide feedback. Throughout this process, I often make small changes to grammar or punctuation. I try to make these changes by section and if you disagree with any changes I make feel free to revert them! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't have many concerns here related to prose as the first reviewer picked up most of the prose issues. The one thing I'm seeing is a bit of WP:PROSELINE. Nearly all of the paragraphs are started by stating the date. I'm considering this an optional change as it's not stopping me from understanding the text but some variation in sentence structure would be nice to see here. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 04:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tweaked three.--Launchballer 05:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.