Talk:Tesla Model X

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Showing range numbers for older cars

The ranges stated for the cars are for the older models with 60 and 90 KWh batteries, which Tesla doesn't produce anymore. I would edit this, but don't know all the proper rules about formatting and the like. The Wikipedia page about the Model S seems up to date.

Links to EPA website:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=39841

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=39842&id=39843

219.88.166.204 (talk) 07:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add in Dutch

Please add in Dutch. nl:Tesla Model X 180.199.58.34 (talk) 03:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

AWD-only? or will both AWD and two-wheel drive models be offered?

The current article prose indicates that AWD is an option, and that two-wheel drive Model X's will also be sold. I have not seen a source indicating this is so. For example, the March 2013 New York Times sources says "Tesla Motors has confirmed that production of its all-wheel-drive Model X electric crossover will begin in late 2014..." and also this snippet from the companies' Form 10-K filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission: "Tesla’s 10-K document provides this description of the Model X: 'This unique vehicle has been designed to fill the niche between the roominess of a minivan and the style of an S.U.V., while having high-performance features such as a dual-motor all-wheel-drive system.'"

Both of those statements do not indicate the car will have two drive-train options. Just state it as an AWD car. Anyone have a source to support the two options story? Cheers. N2e (talk) 02:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

What is source for range? AFAIK Tesla has not announced range. --Teveten (talk) 21:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Equivalent fuel efficiency of electric cars

why don't you mention the equivalent fuel efficiency of electric cars - this should give 80 kilometres to a litre of petrol at current petrol prices — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.216.192.75 (talk) 04:51, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Photos of the Model X at the Texas Capitol Building, 15th of January 2015

Hi all

I took some photos of the Model X prototype at the Texas Capitol building on the 15th of January, wasn't planned so excuse the camera phone quality.

Mrjohncummings (talk) 23:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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Are model prices still unannounced, with deliveries beginning this month?

The article says that the sales price is undetermined, and is not yet public. It also says deliveries will begin this month (September 2015) and that 20,000+ reservations exist.

Is it really true that no price is announced, with deliveries starting??? N2e (talk) 17:47, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

 Fixed Pricing has been fixed now. N2e (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

EPA to NEDC ?

@TGCP: Thanks for adding a source with this change. I am unsure if the wording is really is optimal since in my experience journalists in general are notoriously bad at even the most basic physics (such as distinguishing between power and energy, kW and kWh). So I wanted to point out that Tesla Motors, for their Model S, provides EPA ranges on their US pages, and NEDC on their EU pages (such as the English language UK one). Although that would be a self-published source - for another model - it could lend some currently needed credibility to the EPA to NEDC conversion. Otherwise I would suggest to change the wording to our more normal qualifier, e.g. something like 'which according to valuewalk.com translates to', since the source you found is not just a journalist making the statement, but one doing so in the name of an oft cited source. Lklundin (talk) 03:00, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Agree. For some reason, I can only see US page on http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx , not EU. I can't find an official list with many different cars for NEDC - where is that ?. Please quote EU page with archive, otherwise non-EU readers just see US page. TGCP (talk) 08:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Silly me - of course I can choose an EU page by clicking the flag at the bottom. TGCP (talk) 08:37, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

EU pages say EPA for now, not NEDC. I think we need to quote for Model X, not Model S. TGCP (talk) 08:59, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Redirects

• Bioweapons Defense Mode / Bioweapon Defense Mode ; Bioweapons Defence Mode / Bioweapon Defence Mode -- should redirect here. This is the car with this mode, and a good and viable search term, since people will likely search for this. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 03:16, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Marketing terms are not viable as Wikipedia content. The device is notable for inclusion in the X article, but not as an article for itself, including redirects. TGCP (talk) 07:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

They are not going to be articles, they would be redirects, which are for search terms, such as this, as it is prominently featured in the news. (Same sort of redirects as how characters get redirects to the fiction the characters appear in.) Redirects exist for all sorts of search terms that would never become articles, including famous quotes from movies, etc; this is no different. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

It is different because it is a marketing term, not an independent product or motto. It has no notability outside Tesla, and is not used as a general culture reference, in contrast with movie quotes. Redirects often have a chance of becoming independent articles later, that is not the case with an air filter. We should not provide free advertising for Tesla. Searching for any of these combinations brings up the Model X fairly high - that is good enough. TGCP (talk) 19:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Fastest SUV

Top Gear lists X as the fastest SUV. Is that qualification enough for an official title? A previous list was deemed irrelevant. TGCP (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Awards

Tesla_Model_S#Awards show many entries. Here is one for X. TGCP (talk) 22:13, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

List of Easter Eggs?

Should the Holiday Tesla Easter egg be mentioned? L3X1 (talk) 03:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Having just seen a video of the holiday Easter egg, I think it's worth mentioning. Here's the video I saw: https://www.facebook.com/carey.campbellward/videos/10210990181887250/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Curzyk (talk • contribs) 13:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Outdated Gallery

I have been bold and deleted the gallery, as newer and better images of the actual production vehicle exist. If one or 2 pics of the prototypes want to be kept so be it, but the gallery is gone. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 01:53, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add a range table

Hi!

Model S and Model 3 pages both have a range comparison table so readers can easily identify how far a Tesla with different battery size can go.

I did try to duplicate one from Model S table but it was reverted due to missing info on torque, power...

Sure, let's delete those empty info for now but I think it's good to at least leave the range table to see the history of Model X ranges through time and different battery sizes.

Thanks.

Tâm Tamnguyenrn (talk) 05:58, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Those tables have far too much intricate detail. They mainly serve people who come to the articles to help them shop for a car. It's against Wikipedia policy to write articles for that purpose. It's better to write an article about the Tesla Model X in a broader, more high-level way, and to do it via secondary sources. Summarize the commentary that secondary sources have given over time with regard to the various batteries. Just a collection of statistics about batteries is also against policy: WP:NOTSTATS and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The way to avoid having an indiscriminate collection of data is to think about how it contributes to the overall point of an encyclopedia article.

I realize I'm advocating articles that are drastically different than the existing Tesla Model S, or Nissan Leaf or Chevrolet Volt or Tesla, Inc. articles. Those are filled with exact dollar prices for the cars, their options, and the cost of running them. All the intricate details about their range and their competitors. These electric car articles are bloated 12,000 (and even 15,000!) word monstrosities. And this is excluding all those tables and charts and infoboxes. Just the readable prose. We consider 10,000 words to be really, really long article, acceptable but not common. Only 4,000 to 5,000 words is considered a "normal" article. Exceptions happen because the topic is exceptional. Nobody has proposed any justification that makes the topic of electric cars fundamentally different than the topic of Pokemon or flower arranging or the Mongol dynasties. We need to get back to writing an encyclopedia and these are not encyclopedia articles. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in a discussion

This is to invite regular editors of this page to participate in the ongoing discussion at the talk page of the electric car article regarding Wikipedia policy about pricing info included in several articles dealing with plug-in electric cars. You are welcome to express your view. Cheers.--Mariordo (talk) 13:53, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

75 D Discontinuation

Elon Musk recently tweeted that Tesla will stop taking orders for the 75D base model after January 13 for both the Model S and Model X. (Yes, I am sure of this; Car and Driver published an article) As such, the articles for both vehicles need to be updated on January 14. Syntaxlord (talk) 01:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

@Syntaxlord:

I've made the change and sourced Tesla.com for the new base 100D pricing.

Regards,

Vcpecon (talk) 08:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

References

Energy consumption

This article needs an update with the May 2019 refresh with the new Model 3 drive unit. This leads to a increased efficiency of about 10%. (comment by ‎Walldorf2000)

Also lacking is a safety section like this. TGCP (talk) 16:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Energy consumption not a function of average speed? Impossible feat according to basic physics

The table that shows kWh consumption for 1. City, 2. Combined and 3. Highway environments is virtually constant as a function of the mode. The average speed, $v$, grows as $v_{1}<v_{2}<v_{3}$, where the subindex denotes the environment; while the work (energy), $W$, required to move a mass a fixed distance at a speed $v$ is proportional to the latter, $W\propto v$, ceteris paribus. Here the ceteris paribus assumption holds because it's an electric engine. It doesn't in an internal combustion engine because of the gears: longer time is spent in lower gears at City than at Highway, hence higher energy consumption at City despite the fact that air friction is virtually negligible at City.

Ngs111 (talk) 19:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

That table uses figures taken directly from the US EPA (follow the reference links in the table). You will have to argue with them if you think these figures are not true.  Stepho  talk  01:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

NO MENTION OF FSD VERSIONS

Hello,

some production versions of this car do not have all the equipment for full self driving and yet there is no mention of this anywhere on your page. in fact the one mention of FSD makes it sound like all model X have it which apparently is not the case. please provide this information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.74.226.149 (talk) 08:46, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Historical MSRPs

Can someone add the MSRPs as they moved around on both the base, performance and plaid models? 50.35.152.197 (talk) 22:29, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Only if they have some particular importance (eg, halved or doubled in a single year). Otherwise we are going against WP:NOTPRICE. Note that the prices vary depending on options ordered, date, country, government incentives and even per state. See also that the majority of car articles do not list prices for these reasons.  Stepho  talk  23:13, 9 March 2023 (UTC)