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A fact from Sunlight before signing appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Barack Obama made an election promise to make non-emergency bills freely available online for a five-day public consultation period under "sunlight before signing"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sunlight before signing.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Evrik talk 05:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Barack Obama made an election promise to make non-emergency bills freely available online for a five-day public consultation period under Sunlight before signing?

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/22/us/politics/22pledge.html - "During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama promised that once a bill was passed by Congress, the White House would post it online for five days before he signed it."

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Created by GobsPint (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

GobsPint (talk) 06:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: The article is relatively short and needs further development before being highlighted; the topic is an interesting one, but the hook could do with being shorter. Perhaps,

Alt1 ... that Barack Obama promised to make bills freely available online for public consultation under Sunlight before signing? Klbrain (talk) 19:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, numerically it's over the limit, but as written, this article would deserve {{no lead}}, and one should be added.--Laun chba ller 19:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've reformatted the article into sections and sommething akin to a weak lead. Feeback is welcoem.GobsPint (talk) 04:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is assuaged.--Laun chba ller 07:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!GobsPint (talk) 18:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Lots of good comments but nobody appears to have reviewed. So I guess I will take it on.4meter4 (talk) 22:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article is new enough. It's long enough even after removing the large blocks of quoted text. Earwig did flag copyright violation, but this was due to the large blocks of quoted text which have been properly attributed and are within policy. No close paraphrasing or copyright found, and the article appears to be within policy in all other measures. Hook fact and length both check out for the original and Alt1 hooks. I leave it to the promoter to decide which hook wording they prefer to promote.4meter4 (talk) 23:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Clearly written and sufficiently referenced. Some of the points show over-citations, such as the end of the lede. This means that readers don't know which reference to turn to find the most substantive pieces of evidence to support the claim. There is also no lede, distinct from sections within the body of the article; the lede is a helpful summary or abstract of a more well-developed article.

Klbrain (talk) 19:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]