Talk:Noriko Takaya

Noriko Takaya is currently a Media and drama good article nominee. Nominated by Z. Patterson (talk) at 23:55, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

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I have listed this article for peer review because I would like to know if the entire article meets the good article criteria. As of January 5, 2025, it was graded as a B-Class article, but the article significantly changed since then. I am wondering if there are errors, other than lint errors, we need to address before this can become a good article.

Thank you, Z. Patterson (talk) 04:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47

Apologies in advance as I will not be able to do a full review. I hope that these comments are helpful regardless:

I would avoid having citations in the lead for this type of article. The lead should provide an overview of the article, where everything is more fully discussed and cited, and while other types of articles benefit from having citations in the lead, whether it be to cite contested or controversial information or a quote or another purpose, I do not really see a need for this for fictional characters.
I also think the citations in the infobox are not fully necessary as this information should be present and cited in the article.
Some of the parameters in the infobox seem unnecessary to me. Things like hair and eye colors are not needed, and while I get that blood type is a big deal in Japan, it is not something that is usually included in a infobox for a fictional character.
I would put the Japanese name in a footnote, as it is done for articles like Jill Valentine, as it does take up quite a bit of space and is not fully necessary for readers. I think readers who are interested in this can access this via the endnote, and it can keep the prose moving from point to point better, at least in my opinion.
I do not think it is necessary to include the original Japanese names for things such as the Okinawa Girls' Space Pilot High School, big sister, space monster, and Gainax Pose, as they do not really add much for an English reader. They also seem a tad random.
The article currently uses two pieces of non-free media, with File:Noriko Takaya holding a jump rope.jpg and File:GunbusterSD.png. I would be mindful of non-free media usage, as it is encouraged to keep that to a minimal. While the purpose for the infobox image is clear, I am not entirely sure about the purpose for the second image, and that should be more clearly defined to justify its inclusion.
Make sure that items in the lead are also linked in the article on their first appearance, as the lead and the article are treated separately for this purpose. For instance, Gainax is not linked in the first instance in the article. On a side note, I would clarify in the prose that Gainax is the name of a studio, as I was uncertain about this when I first read it.
The "Characterization and themes" section has interesting information and citations, but it reads more like an essay than anything from Wikipedia. A lot of this information is presented in Wikipedia's voice instead of being more clearly attributed to the authors of the sources. Also, when discussing individuals like Tamaki Saitō and Hiroki Azuma, there should be a short descriptive phrase to clearly identify who they are. I do not the inclusion of the year (2011) after their names is particularly helpful or clear so I would remove that.
Why is there not a reception section? The article should discuss how critics responded to the character.
Citations in Japanese will need to have an English translation.
I know that editors have different opinions on this, but I would avoid using theses, as in my opinion, the level of editorial oversight varies so wildly. Theses and dissertations are generally not considered reliable according to WP:SCHOLARSHIP.

I hope these comments are helpful. Based on my very quick look at the article, I do think that it would need more work prior to a GAN review. That being said, since a GAN request has already been opened, this peer review should be closed, as according to the guidelines, a peer review should not be active at the same time as a GA nomination. Best of luck with your work on the article. Aoba47 (talk) 03:14, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: I understand. Thank you. I plan to make the changes you suggested. Z. Patterson (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response, but as I have already said above, you should close this peer review as it should not be active while a GAN is open. Aoba47 (talk) 00:37, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]