Talk:Nia (charity)

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Lowercase

The organization's name is stylized in its materials as all lowercase formatting "the nia project".

It's written this way in their own materials and when the article was made it complied with this styling.

This has been changed in the article, and I'm not sure why that is the case. If someone knows differently please give details in the article. Nayyn (talk) 08:01, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 February 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Nia (charity) be renamed and moved to The Nia Project.

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Nia (charity) → The Nia Project – A more common name for the organization is "The Nia Project" any cited references did not mention its name as "Nia (charity)". It's an organization, so instead of Nia (organization) or The Nia Project that is the name widely mentioned in mostly cited sources, current name is inappropriate.

Cited References mentioned name for the organization as:

[2] The Nia Project
[3] The nia project
[4] Nia project
[5] The Nia Project by The Guardian
[9] Organization nia by TIME. 𝐌P⚚𝛂n 𓃠 {✝alk} 23:27, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move

@MPian Please once again look at how the organization describes themselves, not external sources. You have refused to engage with previous arguments regarding this issue,

you have not justified a clear rationale for moving this page and you have not assumed good faith here. Any move should be a conversation, and repeating the same arguments without engaging in the conversation does not advance them any further.

To reiterate here,

The Organsation is very clear in their source materials they describe themselves alternatively as "the nia project" or very frequently "nia". Lowercase. Because the organisation's name is unusually styled, it is subject to a lot of misrepresentation in the media, hence your cited sources of The Guardian and Time, which use editorial conventions are inaccurate. By changing the Wiki page you want to do essentially the same thing, by abiding by some grammatical convention, it would essentially misrepresent the organisation. The Wikipedia page should be authoritative.

As Wikipedia does not like using lowercase for article names, the nia project is not a suitable name. Your suggestion, The Nia Project is additionally unsuitable as this is not how the organisation defines itself.

Your additional suggestion, Nia (Organization) is not appropriate as it refers to an org in the UK where this language is not used. Nia (organsation) would be suitable, however it is less precise terminology when trying to abide by MOS:PRECISION. Charity was chosen as this org is a Charitable organisation and this terminology is more descriptive, widely used in the UK and shorter than a more general Organisation.

Wikipedia does not have a MOS naming convention that would suggest charity is an inappropriate definer CAT:NAME

As there is a Project NIA on Wikipedia already, the decision was made to go with nia (charity) as it captures both the nia project and the use of nia on its own. The subjective (charity) already has wide use on Wikipedia especially in the UK context, where this charity operates. See Mind (charity) Samaritans (charity) Mermaids (charity) Gingerbread (charity)....

Please be mindful of the geographic context where this organisation operates and the importance of being precise with the terminology. Nayyn (talk) 02:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]