Talk:Neasa Hourigan

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NMH Catholic Church Reference

Hi User:Bastun

I'm not sure what the process is with discussing changes, I didn't want to just revert edits

With respect to this revision http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Neasa_Hourigan&oldid=1148156991

I'm not sure which article you're talking about. I can't see any article that says the land is owned by the Catholic Church? The Irish Times article explicitly says the site is owned by St Vincent’s Holdings. The Religious Sisters of Charity (who are not the Catholic Church in any case) don't have a shareholding in that company.

If there's no source that says the site is owned by the Catholic Church then surely the article should be corrected?

I'll leave it with you. PaschalNee (talk) 12:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paschal. Bringing it to talk is absolutely the best way to go (per WP:BRD). So, the issue for me is: what is central to Hourigan and Costello voting in favour of the SF motion? The answer isn't that the land is owned by the state, it's the fear that because of the Catholic ethos still espoused by St Vincent's Holdings, then potentially abortions and fertility treatments may not be permitted. That is covered quite well in the second reference (the Irish Times one). The whole issue has been very widely covered in the media, and the issues are well understood. Limiting the sentence to "a site leased by the State" is being disingenous to readers, as that does not explain the issue. I think my edit covers your concern, but I'd be willing to change "a site ultimately leased from the [[Catholic Church]" to "a site leased from St Vincent's Holdings, a company ultimately set up by the Religious Sisters of Charity" Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 13:37, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Return of whip

Do we have a reference for here and 33rd Dáil for Hourigan's return to the parliamentary party? It's clear from the coverage of her deputy leadership bid and the timing of her suspension that she did return, but it would be nice to have an record of a date, even an approximate one, confirming it, rather than just her application to rejoin. Spleodrach might have one, noting your edit to the Dáil party composition figures. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 12:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find a reference which said she had rejoined, other than the IT one which said she had re-applied to join. Spleodrach (talk) 16:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]