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A fact from John Moore (basketball) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 December 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that John Moore's mother, after learning that UCLA's student-body president was Black, said "this is where he's going to school"?
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... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: It's supposed to convey that the mother decided that her son would go to the school upon learning that their student body president was Black. Which part is unclear for you? In a certain sense, all DYK hooks are "trivia". Why do you feel it's a bigger issue here?—Bagumba (talk) 04:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "decision" part is not clear Bagumba, and I don't really get why we have to quote the mother directly instead of simply stating, as you do, "that the mother decided that her son would go to the school upon learning that their student body president was Black". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the input AirshipJungleman29. Would something like John Moore's mother saiddecided that "this is where he's going to school"? be clearer? I originally went with the straightforward "said" as Moore was presumably an adult, but obviously a parent has a lot of sway in these decisions. As for using the quote, I just felt that her actual words made the hook feel more authentic and made it slightly "hookier" than a paraphrase in this case.—Bagumba (talk) 00:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Bagumba I'm a) not sure what the hook means precisely and b) feeling like it's quite trivia-like. Perhaps another hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
I think that would be better, yes. I'll leave the thoughts about quotes/trivia to see if another promoter agrees. Otherwise all good. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)