Talk:Executive Order 12333

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Shouldn't EO 12333 be updated to reference the Director of National Intelligence (DNI)? Zmurray 04:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This should have been deleted. EO 12333 is being revised and the revison wil be unclassified. when it comes out, this article wil need ot be rewritten ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaintes (talk • contribs) 14:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An anachronism has crept in to this article

An anachronism has crept in to this article. It currently states the EO instructed other intelligence agencies to cooperate with the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence. That is an anachronism. President George W. Bush created the position of DNI -- the position did not exist when the EO was signed by President Reagan in 1981. The article should clearly state what the EO stated, when it was signed, in 1981. This EO has been supplemented, and partially superceded by later EOs. I have no problem with sections of this article stating how the later EOs modified how this EO affected government operations. But coverage of the existence of the later EOs should not lead to the original meaning of the EO to be rewritten.

Alternatively, a section of this article should briefly refer readers to the later EO(s). This has the advantage that if those later EO(s) were, in turn supplemented and superceded, readers could see in the article(s) on those EO(s). If we try to cover the effect of the modifications of this EO, by later EO(s), then when even newer EO(s) supplement the EOs(s) that supplemented this one, those wanting to cover the very latest EO would have to revise all the EO(s) right back to this one.

I am going to correct the wording to reflect that the DCI, Director of Central Intelligence, was the nominal head of all US intelligence agencies, when this EO was signed -- not the DNI, the position created over 20 years later.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

revert unexplained edit

Someone deleted the portion of the article that talked about the original proscription on assassination, but didn't explain why. I think that was a significant aspect of the EO, so I re-instated it. Please, if you disagree, state why. Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 00:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EO 12333 revised and replaced

The new EO revising 12333 came out in July 2008 - EO 13470. Here's a link: http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13470.htm. It might be worthwhile to expand this article a bit, link it to the Intelligence reform and terrorist prevention act, and add some discussion on how the new EO works Gaintes (talk) 21:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this page needs substantive revision as EO 12333's major impact on DoD intelligence community is in intelligence oversight; eg that DoD intelligence personnel cannot collect on U.S. persons unless in very specific cases. The document is very in depth and wold benefit from a substantial explanation. Andrew (talk) 16:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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