Talk:Enchylium conglomeratum

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A fact from Enchylium conglomeratum appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that while the lichen species Enchylium conglomeratum is considered secure globally, it has been designated as extinct in the UK and regionally extinct in Switzerland?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Enchylium conglomeratum.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Enchylium conglomeratum's global conservation status of "Secure" (G5) stands in stark contrast to its designation as "Extinct" in the UK and "Regionally Extinct" in Switzerland? Source: NatureServe, British Lichen Society, . Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research
- ALT1: ... that while lichen species Enchylium conglomeratum is considered "Secure" globally, it has been designated as "Extinct" in the UK and "Regionally Extinct" in Switzerland? Source: NatureServe, British Lichen Society, . Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research
- ALT2: ... that lichen species Enchylium conglomeratum's global Conservation status of "Secure" (G5) stands in stark contrast to its designation as "Extinct" in the UK and "Regionally Extinct" in Switzerland? Source: NatureServe, British Lichen Society, . Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research
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- Comment: Feel free to share your alt hook. Also, I'd like to know your thoughts on a pictured DYK of this.

Created by Xkalponik (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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X (talk) 21:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing mainly the DYK-specific criteria since this is GA... ~~lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 10:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

E. conglomeratum

(picture and then good to go) Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, copyvio-free (Earwig returns trivial things, such as synonyms or WP:LIMITED descriptions), copyedited some style and grammar. Hook is cited, interesting, with my preference on ALT1's conciseness, no QPQ required. @Xkalponik: As for the image, both the lead and 2010 images are fine, the bark one does not focus well on the lichen to me. The lead image has more details from far away, while the 2010 sample has more interesting details when zoomed in. I suppose I'll let you decide. ~~lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 11:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Good to go with ALT1 and File:Collema conglomeratum con.jpg. ~~lol1 VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 13:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 14:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Enchylium conglomeratum/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Xkalponik (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Wolverine XI (talk · contribs) 08:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Reviewing this now. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 08:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wolverine XI, Thanks. I'll be co-operating throughout. ~~Let me know your suggestions/opinions.~~ Thanks for the suggestions. I'll address them promptly. X (talk) 09:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wolverine XI, I think I've addressed most of your suggestions. However, I couldn't expand the chemistry section as the spot tests yielded negative results, there's not much room for details regarding these. I searched for a long time but couldn't find suitable info to be added in that section. But other than that I think it's better now. I fixed capitalization, started each para by species name, rewrote phrases, fixed disambiguation link, rearranged sections, expanded taxonomy, and other sections, and removed unnecessary headers. Let me know if there's more to be done. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Xkalponik (talk • contribs)

OH, I see. Promoting now. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 14:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Dotted Jelly Lichen Any reason for the capitalisation?
Start each paragraph by indicating the species name
features common lecanorine apothecia Features and common don't go well together.
sessile Is an orange link.
that is entire and smooth. What does this mean?
Can you expand chemistry? There are many available sources.
Taxonomy should be moved above description
Please remove the unsourced synonyms section
You have to expand taxonomy; it's way too short.
This article is small, it doesn't need a further reading. Please use those sources as well
Pls remove 4th level header North America (NatureServe)

I am done. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 09:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xkalponik: If you are done, please indicate so. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 13:35, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

So why is it endangered/extinct?

I clicked on the article to find out how and why precisely the UK had managed to cause this lichen to go extinct, and in general what has caused its partial extinctions. After all, this is what the DYK hook was based on - there is a surprising fact (in this case, the local extinctions contrasted with the global wide distribution), and you expect to find elaboration and explanations, or at worst, even just the information that there is no known explanation, if there is none. Especially when there is an unfortunate fact, as extinctions of species (besides disease-causing microorganisms) are, it is natural to want to know what it is caused by so as to know how it can be prevented or reversed. Maybe I have missed it, but I skimmed through the article and found no explanation, nor even the claim that the explanation is unknown. This is close to clickbait IMO. 62.73.69.121 (talk) 19:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]