Talk:Chiapas conflict

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Judging the fact that many parts of this article have not been cited years after they were written, I have decided to cut certain parts of it off. If you can find ways to cite it, feel free to copy it here, and paste it back into the article. Pardon the clunkiness.

1950s–1960s Mexico ====== 1950s–1960s Mexico

The hardened division of class and race remained in the Yucatán until the 1950s when the Mexican government began to use economic policy to better integrate indigenous Mayans into Mexican society. Perceiving the lack of sufficient jobs in the city and desirous of not upsetting the Mexican communities in the cities, the government encouraged and steered many landless farmers, mainly Mayan Indians, into settling in the uncultivated Lacandon Jungle and the abandoned white farms which had suffered an enduring economic depression of the previous twenty years. However, although this kept a social crisis from occurring in the cities, it enraged many displaced Mexican farmers, especially of Criollo class, whose rights to land and title were supposedly being ignored in contravention of the compromise of the Mexican revolution. Thus, during the 1950s and 1960s, this immigration of Mayans into former white lands led to land-related conflicts and an increasing pressure on the rain forest which in turn led to environmental degradation and further economic ruin of the rural economy. Furthermore, rather than bring individual Mayan families into the practice of private property and the larger Mexican economy, the process backfired as much of the surplus Mayan community moved from its traditional areas into the new lands.

1970s Mexico

As the crisis threatened to grow into rebellion by the mostly European population, and realizing that the ecological ruin caused by the movement wasn't being mitigated by economic prosperity within the Mayan population, the government decided to halt the migration.

To halt the migration, the government decided in 1971 to declare a large part of the forest (614,000 hectares, or 6140 km2), encompassing both the previously unsettled regions and the former Mexican-owned farms, as a protected area: the "Montes Azules Bio-sphere Reserve". They appointed only one small population group (66 Lacandon Indian families) as tenants (thus creating the Lacandon Community), thereby displacing 2000 Tzeltal and Chol families from 26 communities, and leaving non-Lacandon communities dependent on the government for asserting their rights to land.

President Carlos Salinas de Gortari

1980s–1990s Mexico

Since the 1980s and 1990s, Mexico's economic policy concentrated more on industrial development and attracting foreign capital. However, this policy soon changed to try to brand Mexico as more of an agricultural power, which culminated in the administration of President Carlos Salinas de Gortari initiating a process of privatization of land through several amendments in 1992, which put the process of determining communal land under federal jurisdiction. The EZLN claims that it has existed since 1983, although it only began to gain traction by the early 1990s.

WorldsOkayistEditor (talk) 20:30, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

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This article contains very little information about the Zapatista uprising itself, which should be the main focus. Charles Essie (talk) 02:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

It's odd that the heading includes a death toll, but the article is bloodless - it implies that despite being an armed uprising there was no gunfire. "The rebellion sparked several days of sustained fighting with the federal government, leaving dozens of people dead", according to the BBC. It's as if someone is trying to sanitise the article and present the Zapatistas as a bunch of fun-loving chums who just happen to walk around with rifles. 87.114.47.203 (talk) 00:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

This article is not just about the uprising, but the peacetalks, paramilitary actions, and other conflict since 1994. See the Zapatista uprising page here, I just made it. Perhaps there could be more content but it can be hard to find at times.

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There is absolutely no way that this article is neutral. The Media Influence section especially presents the Zapatista forces as being simply Freedom Fighters desiring to end the tyranny of the government. This definitely needs to be addressed. --Stephen C Wells (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I completely agree, The entire article reads more like a Zapatista press release, than a proper wiki. After reading it, I believe the entire article may need to be rewritten. There is simply a lot of bias here. It seems to go out of it's way to portray the EZLN forces as the "good guys" and those who opposed them as the "bad guys". Like I said, the whole article needs to be looked at, but the Media Influence, Conditions today, and Social programs sections are a good place to start. I recommend deleting the entire Media Inluence section, because as Stephen said, it is one of the most obvious issues. Also I don't see why we even need to have a section called Media influence here, this article is about an armed conflict, not a political party. The other sections I recommend rewriting if necessary. Secureline (talk) 19:15, 12 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Secureline (talk • contribs) 03:42, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree with the general suggestion, but not with removing the Media Influence section. That section seems to me like it explains why this article is so skewed: the movement it describes is relatively minor on a global scale, but is good at getting good publicity. If we scrap that info altogether then the average reader has less reason to take the article with a grain of salt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:5604:E854:8C74:DA3B:D8BA:A949 (talk) 02:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

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