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November 15

RS question

Is boxofficemojo.com [1] a rs for a movie's budget? Crystal Clear x3 03:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Films lists it as a resource here, and it's used in a couple of featured articles on films that I picked randomly, so it appears to be widely accepted as a reliable source. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Crystal Clear x3 22:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Can I turn off the Personal Appeal by donating ?

http://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserLandingPage?uselang=en&country=AU&template=Lp-layout-default&appeal-template=Appeal-template-default&appeal=Appeal-default&form-template=Form-template-default&form-countryspecific=Form-countryspecific-variable1

is a pain. Perhaps its meant to be. Last year i did donate, and I will again, because the cause, not the face, is good. But you could offer a Carrot by offering to turn Off this painful header for Donors.

Please. Cant find a better place to ask this question... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.102.98 (talk) 03:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

You can disable the appeals if you create an account, which has many other benefits. Without an account, there's no way Wikipedia can reliably identify you, so I don't think there's any easy way to disable the appeals. Thanks for donating! Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Please would you elaborate? I have an account but I can't turn off appeals. According to previous answers to this perennial question (though missing from the FAQs) there used to be an option in preferences > gadgets, but it seems to have disappeared.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:59, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I turned it off by clicking the close button in the upper right corner. (After a few days it came back again, but clicking the button again got rid of it again. —teb728 t c 13:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC) The reason that works for me though may be also because I have checked the "Styling to hide interface on isolated pages for ongoing WMF fundraiser 2011 test" preference. —teb728 t c 13:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

That's a bit obscure (why not just "hide fundraising banners"?). I do have that option ticked, but it doesn't always seem to hide the banners.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:17, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes after you donate the banner will be hidden. You can also hide it by clicking the cross in the upper right hand corner, or if you're logged in enabling the "Suppress display of the fundraiser banner" gadget which I just re-added. It was taken out simply to avoid cluttering the gadget list all year round, I meant to restore it before the fundraiser but it totally slipped my mind. (It should be added though that gadget hides all CentralNotices, so you may also miss notices you wanted to see). the wub "?!" 14:54, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I just contributed, the banners stopped. That's easier than figuring out how to turn them off:)--SPhilbrickT 16:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 94#How to hide all fundraising banners on all Wikimedia wikis until next year you can also go directly to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You/en. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Number of sensors

how many 0/2 sensors does a 2002 chevy silverado 1500 2wd have — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.223.10.13 (talk) 04:40, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Welcome. This page is intended for questions about using or editing Wikipedia. You can ask this question at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. The people there specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer your question. Just click on the link and ask your question there. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:15, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

How to upload pictures to a Wikipedia page

I am trying to help author Belo M. Cipriani upload a picture of his book on his page, include his website too. Can someone please reply to this message and let me know how I can do this? Also, what reference would he need for his page not to get deleted?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.192.225.3 (talk) 08:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

In the first place the Belo Cipriani article has been proposed for deletion because it has no references; unless at least one reference is provided, the article will be deleted soon; so work urgently on referencing before you worry about images. All facts asserted in the article must be verifiable by references to reliable sources; so add references that verify facts asserted in the article—particularly those that show that he is notable. As to a book cover image, I'm sorry but you can't use a book cover image except in an article on the book (unless the the copyright owner of the book cover releases the image under a free license.) —teb728 t c 12:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Translation of a bengali article

Hi. I was thinking of an article on Pratima Banerjee (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1716134/). There is minimal information on her. One significant bit of information is at: http://www.banglatorrents.com/showthread.php?13887-Gaaner-Pratima-A-beautiful-article-on-Pratima-Bandopadhyay . Unfortunately it is in bengali. I did trying to go the bengali wikipedia page but couldn't quite find an email link. I need help in translating it - is there any way this can be done via the wikipedia community? With Thanks. Master Of Ninja (talk) 09:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Translation aside, that is a forum on a torrent site, would that be considered a reliable source? Яehevkor ✉ 10:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Good point! I assumed as it was an image it was from a newspaper, but thinking about it, it can't be used as a reliable source. Pity as there is not much information I can find. With Thanks. Master Of Ninja (talk) 12:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Downloading in a format other than PDF

I've been asked by a supervisor to download a userspace page in Microsoft Word format, but I told them that I thought it wasn't possible. Was I correct in saying that we can't download individual pages of any namespace except as HTML or PDF? If I'm wrong, please point me to a page that discusses downloading in other formats; Wikipedia:Database download and m:Help:Downloading pages don't address my needs. Nyttend backup (talk) 14:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

mw:Alternative parsers mentions some conversions tools. I don't see Word there but perhaps Word can open one of them and save as .doc. You can also try the "Printable version" link under "Print/export" and then see if you can copy-paste directly from your browser into a Word document. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Date ranges

Not sure where to ask this, so I'm asking here. (I couldn't find anything useful at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers) Should I format a date range that occurred with the same prefix like this: "June 21—27" or like this: "June 21—7"? Thanks. HurricaneFan25 16:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

June 21–27. That's an en dash, not an em dash. I've never seen a date presented like "June 21–7"; to me that looks like a typo or something. It's under the second bullet point of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Dates. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 16:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

"June 21—27". - David Biddulph (talk) 16:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Not "June 21—27", but "June 21–27". ( en dash (–) rather than em dash (—))--SPhilbrickT 16:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bother

Can you please take a look at this page?

User:Jp vasaio/John Todora

I think it is what you are asking for, but I am not sure. Any notes would help. This is part of my grade this semester so its very important to me. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jp vasaio (talk • contribs) 16:03, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I've changed your link above from an internet link http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:Jp_vasaio/John_Todora to a wiki link [[User:Jp vasaio/John Todora]]. This question is presumably a follow on from the section above at #A little help please? In which case, no, you haven't responded to the advice you were given there, either in terms of providing references {see WP:References for beginners) rather than inline external links, or about the style and formatting. Please go back and read the advice again, and also please read the links provided in the welcome message on your talk page, and particularly WP:Tutorial. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

looking for a friend

hallo, well i know this is a quastion you probablly where neve asked but i am in big need to locate a friend, and he has this school listed. please beleve me i am a honest woman, i will try to make this long story short. i have met BRAD THICKLE on a dating site last june and we have been in touch ever cince. he is comming here to WI next week to meet. He trully sounds like an wonderfull Man. i guess my quastion is is there a way you could PLEASE Locate his relation so i could get in contact with them. as i said earlier i am a honest woman that thinks HE IS THE ONE :) but need to be sure. my email is <redacted>

thank you for taking the time to read my mail — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.156.192.186 (talk) 16:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Orange Mike | Talk 17:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:Unusual requests? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think so. —Entropy (T/C) 19:15, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Mamadou Doudou Diouf

Te article on Mamadou Doudou Diouf contains several issues. While it appears he is a notable subject based on his time with Senegal's national team, he never played for Senegal's national team. They didn't play on October 30t, and even if they did, Mamadou was playing for UConn per boxscore. However, the rest of te information about him is true, albeit Non-Notable. Should I propose a speedy deletion as a hoax since the notability information is untrue?? I'm going to do that. Smartyllama (talk) 18:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Request for name change is in delay

I just sent a name request to Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple yesterday and i got no response. Usually there fast at responding to name request on all other name request except mine, I made a small edit to it to see if it gets there attention or maybe it messed it up? My name request might have to much words what is the limit and how can i get it requested faster or noticed by someone. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 18:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Directly contact one of the Bureaucrats on that page who do other renames, and ask why yours was skipped. CTJF83 18:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks i guess i never went to the new fresh page, it worked chris bot said no problems with my new name, but i cant log into it why is that. is that the right page to officially change your name request. How long should it take. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 19:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

That I can not help you on, sorry, CTJF83 19:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

"Robot clerk note: No problems found" is not a decision, it's only an aid when the decision is made. It will clearly say Done or Not done. You made the request correctly and will just need a little patience. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Editing a user page

Using a template for translating a page from Spanish Wikipedia, I followed the examples, pressed Submit and saw my new User page with the beginning translation. When I tried to go back and edit, however, each successive edit resulted in new text being added to the old - rather than replacing it - resulting in three repeats of the same five paragraphs. What am I doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mawgrit (talk • contribs) 18:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I've reverted your last two edits to put the draft back to as you started it. When you want to edit, after you've hit the edit button don't copy and paste the existing content, just change the parts that you want to change. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Biggest wave surfers

I looked up where the biggest waves in the world are. I got a list , then saw up in the corner biggest wave surfers( or something like that) and your list was right on! I also saw my dads name on there! Along with his twin brother Michael . He has Ben in surfer and surfing magizien for ridding some of the biggest waves in the world. Also for being one of the pioneers of tow in surfing. But he was in a bad car accident where some one was killed and there was alcohol involved. There was a lot of press. In the news paper here in Hawaii the accident was in the sport section, although it happens in San diago ca. Slot of people said that he was at fault. After the accident I was showing my cousin the wikapedia biggest wave surfers. Her dad is Michael. But there names had Ben removed. Why was that? Being in trouble with the law dose not change the fact that Milton and Michael Willis are still world famous for the big waves that they have rode.please consider this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.5.167 (talk) 19:16, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Getting into trouble is irrelevant but lists like Big wave surfing#Noted big wave surfers are generally only for people with a Wikipedia biography which is linked. Milton and Michael Willis do not have articles (I assume Michael Willis is somebody else). Somebody added them to the list anyway in April 2009 but they were quickly removed because there was no article. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for requirements to get articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

RfC on existing discussion or new?

When you put an RfC on a talk page for something you have already been discussing, do you put it at the top of the existing section and its discussion, or do you make a new section? StandFirm (talk) 21:54, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I always throw it at the top, it "encourages users" to read the whole discussion and not just from the template down. CTJF83 23:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

All-Time Chicago Bear Roster

Hi. There is a great player missing from this all time roster. Not sure how to add the information but you have 'Curtis Conway' in Wikipedia article, 'All-Time Chicago Bear Roster'.

He had over 1,000 yards three times in his twelve year NFL career, in which he played for the Chicago Bears, the San Diego Chargers, the New York Jets and the San Francisco 49ers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.216.36.11 (talk) 22:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I've added it for you, see this edit.

Feel free to edit any article yourself, of course. You might try WP:TUTORIAL.  Chzz  ►  01:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

November 16

what's wrong with banners?

Mr. Wales, I totally agree with Sally (below). I am unfortunately recently unemployed, and I swear to G*D I'd give you 5 or 10 bucks to help if I had an extra 5 or 10 bucks. Realistically though, how does operating for profit hurt? As a 501 c3 alumni chapter guy, i see the benefits, but you guys are a global staple. I love what you do and I love the 95 people you hired, but if you could somehow place banners on your site and hire another 95 peeps, I promise I'll love you more. Either way, thank you for everything, keep up the amazing work, and I will give you guys $5 when I get my first unemployment check next week. Klyde Langster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.107.253 (talk) 10:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Dear Jimmy Wales-

Wiki is a great resource, and I think you would be sabotaging yourself by not reaching out to advertisers of your choosing. You have a choice-if anything I would say, just don't allow automatic sound and constant replay as that would interfere with the users experience. Many of us discover new products, movies, information on Wiki as well as through advertising, so instead of looking at this as the enemy, perhaps its time to embrace banner ads.

I make my living in advertising. Specifically web advertising. Maybe it's time you look into it. There's nothing evil about having advertising on your site. In fact, the suggestion that it is, is slightly disturbing and offensive to those of us in the advertising arena.

Sincerely- Sally-LA, Ca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.49.33 (talk) 00:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Jimbo has recently said, Commerce is fine. Advertising is not evil. But it doesn't belong here. - and the majority of Wikipedians agree; not all, but most. See "Fundraising vs ads" and [2].

But also, please note, Mr. Wales is unlikely to read your message here. You could contact him via User talk:Jimbo Wales.  Chzz  ►  01:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Note also that Jimbo is a libertarian, and has his own opinions. Some Wikipedians, on the other hand, consider advertising a despicable and contemptible part of modern life, and a disgraceful way to make a living. It takes all kinds to make a world. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yep, fair point; I only meant to say that, most Wikipedians agree <with Jimbo> that we shouldn't have ads - for whatever reasons; I didn't mean to imply that most Wikipedians agreed with Jimbo's reasoning, or everything said.  Chzz  ►  15:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Editing Wikipedia:Help desk (new section)

I stand accused of making "bad requests" and now I am being threatened with a ban without further notice by "Calabe1992". How does this make any sense? Please remove the page immediately. Is this the right place to ask, or please point me to the right person to make a formal request. - S. Giunta — Preceding unsigned comment added by S.giunta (talk • contribs) 01:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Please don't keep blanking the article Salvatore Giunta. If you think there is a problem with that article, please explain why, on Talk:Salvatore Giunta. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  01:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you are the subject or represent him then see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The article, when unblanked, notes that the real Giunta has been offended by the attention he's received; if User:S.giunta is the real Giunta, that's likely his motivation. Nyttend (talk) 02:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Such motivation aside, there is nothing wrong with the article and in view of the subject's notability I very much doubt that any request from him for the article to be deleted will succeed. – ukexpat (talk) 14:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

How much money does it take to get Jimbo's face off of the internet forever?

How much to get him to leave us alone entirely? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.152.237 (talk) 01:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Three quid a month, from each of us.[3]

Alternatively, see WP:VPM#How to hide all fundraising banners on all Wikimedia wikis until next year  Chzz  ►  01:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

foot notes

How do I use the same source more than once with out creating a new foot note? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanfie (talk • contribs) 01:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The instructions are here, WP:NAMEDREFERENCES. GB fan 01:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

User page and watch list and more

What is the limit of space data information for your user page is there a max. i could not find the answer at User page. They say your watch list cannot exceed 9000 something words list of articles. But rumors said u can go way beyond that limit. whats the limit has wikipedia uploaded there max holding data for watch list capacity. Can i put certain name articles to my user page that relate to a certain topic like Orders of magnitude (energy) i will list a lot of diverse energy topics of there amount of energy and mass release plus there attributes relating to the elements of the universe is this ok. And can i add to my user page a list of ways to die by nature catastrophic events and artificial doomesday devices that can be dangerous hazardous, it will not vandalize and will relate to wikipedia articles. I tried to ask to put it on a wikipedia article but it doesn't meet there standards so can i put it on my user page. Is there a way u can read other peoples watch list or special archives of certain topics. Is there a option list where u can allow someone to edit your user page to allow them to add ideas. How do u qualify to be a certain rank like administrator, Do they ask or hire u. How can u request to control a certain article or be allowed to edit it. If u create a article do u have any higher rights ranking power over it. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 03:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

That's a lot of questions. Some of them are answered here: Wikipedia:User pages#Excessive unrelated content, Help:Watching pages#Size limitation, Help:Watching pages#Privacy of watchlists, Wikipedia:Ownership of articles, Template:Edit protected, Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. All non-deleted pages are visible to everybody, and everybody can edit any user page which isn't protected. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:53, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

thanks prime hunter, on your watch list would the raw watch list be deleted too with the watch list if there's to many word articles, raw list downloads a lot faster, maybe if i paste it on user page that will save it and than re paste if the old watch list get deleted due to too many word articles, sorry a lot of questions one day i will return the favor by helping u guys help others. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 05:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC) They should divide the watch list into seperate pages like a-m n-z so it doesn't over load and delete your watch list articles saves. i plan to go over 9,800 because it helps me with adding editing future articles like list of solar energy topics, by having all the solar related energy word topics on my watch list or raw list it would be faster to add to the list of solar energy topics. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 05:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

• Max page size - any page larger than about 400 KB might not work on older browsers. You can also run into problems if there are too many templates on a page. Pages without templates, up to about 1Mb, should work OK on a modern system; beyond that, it's all getting a bit silly.
• Watchlists with over 9000(ish) can cause problems. A solution is to put links on a page, and use "Special:Recentchangeslinked".
• Wikipedia itself (servers) have, for all intents and purposes, unlimited capacity.
• Listing links to thousand of articles (and with other info) on userspace pages is fine; no problem at all.
• You should not add article-categories (like Category:Living people, Category:Fruit, or whatever) to userspace pages.
• You cannot read other people's watchlist; it is private data.
• Anyone can edit any page (including your userspace pages), unless they are protected (which is occasionally necessary, to prevent vandalism). Admins can edit protected pages, and will help with requests to change them.
• Admins are chosen through discussion/consensus at WP:RFA; they can be nominated by others, or self-nominated. They must demonstrate extensive experience - typically thousands of good edits over more than a year. Nobody is hired; nobody is paid to edit.
• You do not have any more right to edit an aritcle, even if you created it. (WP:OWN).

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• Whether you edit the raw watchlist or not, makes no difference. Really, try the 'Recentchangeslinked' idea insead; list the articles you are interested in on one userspace page, and use 'What Links Here'. Then you can split it up in whatever way you want (on separate pages).  Chzz  ►  06:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

thanks chzz a little confused on the template max page, does it mean the limit for wikipedia article word space memory in a article. If my watch list gets deleted due to to much memory over load space can i go back a page to make it comeback re due it like, and will my raw watch list be deleted too, i figure raw list loads faster so it maybe holds more word articles info. And that cluebot said i possibly vandalized plasma physics, but i only added a plasma word to the plasma source, it fitted the category no one deleted it yet. Does that rune your rep even if u never did anything to vandalize. Sorry no more easy same questions i will try my best to look it up without relying on u pro's i appreciate it. Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 07:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Making mistakes as you learn is not going to "rune your rep", what is going to eventually "rune" it is not being able or willing to put two sentences together in proper English. I don't mean this as an insult or anything, but if you intend on being a serious editor (and we're not even talking about adminship yet), you're going to have to put a lot more effort in your writing, regardless of skill and ability. Suggestion: you could start with the proper capitalization of 'I' and the correct spelling of 'you'. Best regards, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 08:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you are concerned about losing your watchlist, you can click "Edit raw watchlist" and then copy everything out to an ordinary text file as a backup. But my watchlist has crept up to 2,500 pages and I'm not seeing any problems with it yet. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I laugh at your puny watchlist, mortal. Tremble and bow down before my mighty watchlist of...wait for it...16,632 pages. I have no problems. If I do, I'll get rid of the 8,000 or so redlinks.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I will stomp the yard stampede all over your watch list in due time, about two weeks now on wiki i just surpassed 3000 like spartans with no red list.Hopefully by the end of month i will have 10000 pristine laser plasma energy sources related universal articles on physics. I mostly read raw watchlist it loads faster. Copy and paste your watch list on your user page let me see your passion interest. Where could I copy peoples watch list.Bring it on and beware of my future king kong grand finale watch list of all time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk • contribs) 03:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC) Shawn laser lightning plasma (talk) 03:16, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Finding top-importance stubs?

I'm interested in finding the articles on wikipedia that are considered high importance but stub quality. Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index uses a bot that tracks the count of such pages. But does it create a list of them? And where can I find it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drkarger (talk • contribs) 03:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if there's a list anywhere, but you may be able to compile a list yourself using the CatScan tool. You'll need to intersect Category:High-importance articles (and its subcategories) with Category:Stub categories (and its subcategories). If you can't get it to work, post back here. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

On many WikiProject pages you will find a table (see, for example, Wikipedia:WikiProject United States#Project statistics) showing columns for importance, and rows for class; at the intersections the totals are clickable. Clicking one of these should take you to a tool which lists the articles of that particular importance/class combination. The totals in the table are typically updated at intervals from 24 hours to one month, so the list of articles that you reach by clicking might not tally with the total. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Aligning userboxes with text

How would I go about doing this? I checked some user pages for clues but can't find a way to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg3300 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Depending on what you have in mind, using tables might work for you. Dismas|^(talk) 05:59, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking about putting userboxes down the left side of my profile. I've done this before, but the text ends up below it. Basically, all I'm looking to do is align the userboxes on the left with the text next to it. If this is possible with tables (and still looks decent) I'm all for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.40.38 (talk) 06:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you're okay with trying out the code yourself to see what you like, check out Help:Table for some instructions. Dismas|^(talk) 08:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm still having a problem here. The table will cause the body of text inserted in the code after it to display below. I want the text to display RIGHT NEXT TO the table. Is there any way to do this? See my user page to see what I'm talking about. Hg3300 (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

There's a help section here: Wikipedia:User page design center. Maybe ask there? I'm sorry, I'm not that great with tables. Dismas|^(talk) 17:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done - is this what you wanted? CharlieEchoTango (talk) 18:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Charlie! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hg3300 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You're most welcome (and please sign your posts, I left a second reminder on your talk page). Cheers! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 18:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I know, it used to be no problem for me, but recently asking these questions I kept forgetting. Then when I went back to sign, SineBot got there before I could enter the four tildes. I will try to remember to do that once again. Hg3300 (talk) 18:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rotated image

File:Steve Hughes 1.jpg appears correctly when you view the image directly, but appears rotated in Steve Hughes. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 05:46, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

See this discussion. Dismas|^(talk) 05:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's the ssame issue. The file itself is the 'right way around'; it's just the thumbnails that are showing it incorrectly. I've re-uploaded it, and tried a few things; I also asked tech but no response yet. It may sort itself out, in time; I'm not sure at the moment.  Chzz  ►  07:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I've discovered it's because the metadata in the file was messed up - probably when the image was rotated, previously. Thus, any thumbnailed version is rotated, but when displaying the full picture, it is not.

I have fixed it by opening the file, re-saving it, and uploading the new version as File:Steve Hughes.jpg.

Because that process may have lost other information, I've not over-ridden the original. But I will change the article to this repaired copy.  Chzz  ►  08:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Chzz. DH85868993 (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Kimiko Zakreski

I just wanted to update you on information about Kimiko Zakreski. Since her last update she is living in Halifax, NS and Married Scott Willgress on October 15 2011. My mobile phone does not have the symbol so I'll sign with this ----- thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.171.231.80 (talk) 06:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you know of a reliably published article in a newspaper or a book with these updates, please post a link here. All information must be verifiable.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

fiery fingers

In the book "A Dance With Dragons" in one of the Tyrion subsections, specifically location11909 on my kindle app eversion of the book, they repeatedly refer to "fiery fingers," My guess is matches? But its not in the dictionary and wikepedia has nothing that fits the context. There are several other paragraphs wen u search for the phrase but nothing that resembles m looking for. Please review and add the appropriate contextual info for the phrase on ur site; i rely on Wikepedia several times a day. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.252.161.86 (talk) 07:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

It appears to be a colloquialism GRRM uses to describe the high priest, Moqorro's men in the fantasy universe of the book. As seen here, after a first use of the phrase he refers to some power of the high priest (who appear to be a devotee of the "lord of light"), to exercise his "fiery hand." Hard to tell without reading the larger book for context if it's a specific magic he possesses or whether it's metaphorical. In any event, I can't think of any context where Wikipedia would reflect this information except possibly in a plot description for the book in an article on it, but even there it would only be described if it was an important enough feature of the plot to require explanation, which I doubt it is.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization of preposition "o'".

Hi everybody! in Megadeth "Skin o' My Teeth", should be the preposition "o'" capitalized? thanks a lot, gio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.124.92 (talk) 09:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

This page is for questions on how to use Wikipedia, try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language CTJF83 13:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The short, simple answer is that in Wikipedia (according to MOS:CT) the preposition of should not be capitalized in titles of works, so the contracted o′ should also not be capitalized. I'm off to correct it in the text of our article. Deor (talk) 14:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales appeal

Sir / Madam

I read the personal appeal of the Great Mr. Jimmy Wales for a petty contribution from we people, who frequently refer to 'wikipedia'. I tried to contribute a monthly subscription( may be a meager amount), but I received an error message, displaying " The contributions are not received in Indian rupees"

How to proceed further? Can you please guide ?

Thanking You

HARI BASKAR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.202.7.67 (talk) 14:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

This page has an email address listed on the right side in the big green box. If you send an email to that address, someone will contact you and help you through the donation process. --Jayron32 14:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

HELP: article seems to have been truncated!

I can't imagine what happened! I began editing the Marc-Antoine Charpentier article to provide the footnotes that Wikipedia was requesting. Everything went very well and I viewed and saved... =the footnotes were all visible in a new section called REFERENCES= and then suddenly the rest of the article disappeared! I can't figure out how to get it back.

And I can't do too much checking in your Help and FAQ because I've just had 2 cataract surgeries and reading is a bit difficult -- hence my decision to use this inactive moment to add footnotes.

I hope you can put things back so that the entire long article survives intact and can be footnoted!

Patricia Ranum - Ranumspa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranumspa (talk • contribs) 15:00, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to "close" the reference by adding the </ref> tag at the end. Someone else fixed the problem here: [4]. If this happens again, look for that. Its a common mistake. --Jayron32 15:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) yep!

You had a <ref> with no closing </ref>.

I have fixed it, here.  Chzz  ►  15:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, all! So it was the lack of a closing code that caught me in that "half" world. That's what happens when one doesn't have time to contribute to Wikipedia routinely and forgets good habits, and I know it's a pain for regulars. There doubtlessly are tids and bits to fix in the references I added. I certainly can add more if they seem advisable. Just let me know and I'll oblige: every sentence in the Charpentier article can be footnoted if so desired. Patricia M. Ranum (talk) 16:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

new email Addy.

Hello..I can no longer "log in" because I don't know how to update my new email address, can you help? My handle is "Ritty"..I have no way to retrieve my email Addy that is on file with Wiki.. Therefore you can email me , but I will not receive your email....My handle is still "Ritty",....Is there a way we can update my email in Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.48.73.93 (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The only way to change an email address linked to a Wikipedia account is to log in; if you have forgotten your password to an account, it can be emailed to you. If, however, you either a) never set up an email for Wikipedia to contact or b) no longer have access to that email account, you're basically stuffed, and there is no way to recover the old Wikipedia account. You'll have to register a new account. --Jayron32 15:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Or since Special:Contributions/Ritty has no contributions since 2006, you may be able to WP:USURP the account. —teb728 t c 20:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Original contribution

How do I learn who posted the original contribution for an article?

Apologies if I've asked this before, I;m not very good at navigating the threads

pete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterlemer (talk • contribs) 15:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Does Help:Page history help? – ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

My user page is doing something weird D:

Ok so I get one of those "new messages" things at the top of my page. I click it, and find that I have a welcome message from Wikicommons (i think) on my talk page. But.. the stuff I wrote on my own talk page were gone!! And my User Page was a dead link! It said I had to create it! (which I already did). I then check my contributions list to see if that was affect, and all my contributions were gone, except for my most latest one. I reopen wikipedia and my userpage is back, and my talk page is normal again, without the welcome. But my contributions list is also back to normal but doesn't list my last edit.

Soo....... WHAT HAPPENED!!! ~Akiatu~ (talk) 16:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

My guess is that you got logged out for some reason, and were seeing the user talk page and contribution list for your underlying IP address. When you "reopened Wikipedia" did you have to log in? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

That, or he discovered Commons for the first time. @ Akiatu : Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are part of the same family of sites but are not the same site; though your login is universal, your contributions and pages on one won't be on the other, that's why you didn't have a page on Commons and you couldn't see your Wikipedia contributions there. I hope this helps. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 16:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's much more likely. Akiatu, your Wikimedia Commons talk page is here - is that the page you saw earlier? -- John of Reading (talk) 17:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Image citation question

In Hurricane Cindy (1959), citation 26, which is located here, is an image (on Commons here). Since I couldn't think of anything to call the file, I simply named the ref "Hurricane Cindy rainfall graphic". Is there a better/correct title I could use for it? Thanks. HurricaneFan25 17:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rainfall map, perhaps? Otherwise it looks good to me, the important thing is that the author, date and publisher is mentioned. The title, meh. Amazing work by the way, keep it up! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 19:24, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Header

This might be a non-Wiki ? but has anyone gone to edit their article page and the Open With/Save File thing pops up? It won't let me edit my stuff! Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAWylie (talk • contribs) 19:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

To clarify: Is this on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hell On Wheels (episode)? You are trying to click the "Edit" link at the top of the page?

Does your browser display the URL that you are about to jump to? It should be http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hell_On_Wheels_%28episode%29&action=edit. It is says anything else you may be afflicted with malware. Does this direct link work? -- John of Reading (talk) 20:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Search for edits by ip subnet

Hi Guys,

So I can search for edits from a particular ip address, but is it possible to search for edits from a particular subnet? so, for example, could I search for all edits made by Ip's from 194.8.74.* rather than searching for an IP address individually?

Thanks,

Failedwizard (talk) 20:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this is possible. You have to have Javascript turned on, and you have to tick a box in "My Preferences" - on the "Gadgets" tab, second checkbox from the bottom. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You're a star :) Failedwizard (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Mobile version on desktop

I'm building a web application and I'd like to have en.m.wiki.x.io in an iframe for the user to look up information with.

Unfortunately, if a desktop user performs a search in the iframe, they are redirected to the desktop version. Is there any way to prevent this redirect?

How to recreate:

1 ) Open en.m.wiki.x.io on a desktop

2 ) Search for something

3 ) Notice redirect to desktop version — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.138.7 (talk) 20:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If you don't get an answer here, I suggest you ask at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 08:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Peculiar layout problem

Could someone check out Languages of Finland. I can't seem to figure out what messes up the layout. --hydrox (talk) 20:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, for one, there are far too many images for such a short article. Dismas|^(talk) 20:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. I took one rather redundant one away, but it's still messed up. Shouldn't happen AFAIK. --hydrox (talk) 21:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

IMO, there are still too many images/boxes crammed in there (and I'm viewing it on my laptop, which has a high resolution - I'd hate to see what it looks like on smaller monitors). Could you split the article up into multiple articles, or move some of the data and/or images to other articles? Hohenloh ⁺ 21:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Better yet, expand the article. :) CharlieEchoTango (talk) 21:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I think that's the way to go. Irrespective of the length of the article, the layout is messed up, which is a technical bug in the renderer. --hydrox (talk) 03:21, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I got it fixed. It's some crazy HTML layout issue of cluttering both right and left float with too many images and too little text. Thanks for you all, hydrox (talk) 04:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Geo coordinates

How does one redirect coordinates that are not inside the box or templete but directly in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncsr11 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 16 November 2011‎

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have a specific article in mind? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Splitting an article

It has been suggested splitting the article Foggy Dew into three, as it consists of three different songs. This makes sense, as the songs are all different, and I don't think anyone opposes this move. So is it OK to simply cut and paste each of the songs into new articles and rename the current article as a DAB page? I seem to remember reading somewhere that is NOT sufficient to simply cut and paste the information into new pages like this, for copyright reasons. Hohenloh ⁺ 21:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

See the procedure at WP:Splitting#Procedure, you will need to add an appropriate edit summary and use {{Copied}} on the talk page. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 21:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rating a page

Hi, just a quick question regarding the 'rating's 'given too a specific page, article, etc. My question has to do with the words offered for choice in rating a page, all of these words are of a 'positive' nature (so too speak, I will use the proper language of the discipline, 'English', if preferred but simple grammer would keep us busy for an extended period of time. So to say this in as short a time as possible is the preferred way to go for all concerned). How can one rate a page honestly without the tools to do so correctly and with as fair an eye and ear as one can. Having no negatives (again,so too speak, one is unable to rate anything with any degree of truthfulness or mere fairness. Just a thought, thank you for your time and patience with this email, thank's again, 70.66.69.89 (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

They're criteria, not the actual ratings. When you hover your mouse over the stars it will give you a better idea of what the ratings are. For example, in the "Well-Written" criterion, the stars go from "Incomprehensible" (1 star), "Difficult to Understand (2 stars), "Adequate Clarity" (3 stars), "Good Clarity" (4 stars), and "Exceptional Clarity" (5 stars). Similarly, the 1-star ratings for the criteria "Trustworthy", "Objective", and "Complete" are "Lacks reputable sources", "Heavily biased", and "Missing most information", respectively. Those are definitely not positive.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Can we PLEASE get Jimmy Wales' picture off of EVERY PAGE?

I understand the need to fund-raise, but do we need his tiresome photos on every last page? Smacks of severe egomania, if you asked me.

Thanks! :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.64.147.248 (talk) 21:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

No. You can create an account and set your preferences not to show the fundraising banner, or you can go here and click submit, and it should set your cookies to remove the banner for a while. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Is there a way to block Jimmy Wales' pictures without blocking banners? Normally I block unwanted images with Adblock Plus, but for some reason (perhaps unintentional as a result of a script on wikipedia that changes the photo after each reload) it does not work here. Hurdsean (talk) 08:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Using magazines as a source

Hey guys, I couldn't find my old question so I wanted to re-ask. I have lots of PlayStation and Retro Gamer magazines as I collect PlayStation related things. I wanted to use the information in these books to help expand some of the articles on Wikipedia on games that don't have an awful lot of information. One for example is Alien Trilogy, I have a lot of information I'd like to add about that but I'm not sure how to cite a magazine as a source. If someone could give me some information, I would be more than appreciative, help a newbie out? Many thanks guys! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlayStationConnoisseur (talk • contribs) 22:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The template Cite Journal is also use for magazines. See Template:Cite journal for examples.Naraht (talk) 22:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Your previous question was archived here. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

November 17

What Wikipedia policies apply to the notability of article content?

WP:N seems to apply only to whether a page should exist.

1. What is the relevant Wikipedia policy or policies that addresses whether an aspect of an article subject is relevant or notable?

2. Under what circumstances can material that is verifiable still be removed, for example if a 'history' part of an article gets 3 times longer than the rest of the article? It's sourced, it's just too in depth or long.

Thanks in advance. StandFirm (talk) 02:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:NPOV is one standard. Dwelling at length on a certain aspect can give WP:UNDUE weight. On the other hand, if there's no problem with implicit bias, just being an overly-long section that crowds out other material (or scares others away from adding "more to the article"), WP:SUMMARYSTYLE recommends offloading that section into its own article on that facet of the topic. DMacks (talk) 02:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Now maybe I'll be a little more specific - the history section in question consists about 90% of past mistakes of the article's subject. Would you say this creates bias even though each sentence by itself is neutral? And if yes, what Wikipedia policy addresses that? StandFirm (talk) 04:35, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:WEIGHTing policy. I like to follow the standard scholarly texts covering a particular subject. It sounds like you're talking about popular culture, so I have no idea there. Fifelfoo (talk) 04:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Actually it's a religious subject: Eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses. Further responses on my question here are also welcome if anyone has anything to add. StandFirm (talk) 05:05, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Image not showing in a template

Any idea why the photo on Commons referenced in the infobox of Frederick W. Winters House doesn't show? - Jmabel | Talk 03:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I have purged http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Bellevue%2C_Washington_-_Winters_House_01.jpg/250px-Bellevue%2C_Washington_-_Winters_House_01.jpg and it shows now. Something had gone wrong with the 250px version. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Someone deleted my edit. How do I find out why?

Yesterday I made 2 small edits to the 35th Infantry Division (usa) page. Today someone deleted these 2 edits. I checkded the discussion tab to see if the person explained why they were removed, but could find no explanation. How can I find out why the edits were deleted? I am new to Wikipedia and would appreciate any help. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plastermonkey44 (talk • contribs) 04:11, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Clicking on the history tab will land you to this page, which shows that AnyGuy (talk · contribs) undid your edits; you could ask him why by leaving him a message at his talk page. One thing though : you should never sign your edits in articles. Signatures are only for talk pages (when you leave a message on a page, like this one). Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

About the topic- Dhenkanal (Princely State)

Dhenkanal (princely state) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

While going through the article in Wikipedia about Dhenkanal (Princely State), I have come across some factual errors. My father Late Rajkumar Gourendra Pratap Singh Deo, was the 5th son of Raja Sura Pratap Singh Deo Mahindra Bahadur. My father was born in 1915 and was hardly 11 years of age when Shankar Pratap Singh Deo annexed the throne. During the absence of Raja Shankar Pratap Singh Deo from the headquarters, Pattayet Narsingh Pratap Singh Deo (and not Rajkumar Gourendra Pratap Singh Deo) the 2nd son of Late Raja Sura Pratap, used to look after the administration of Dhenkanal. The name of the wife of Pattayet Rajkumar Narsingh Pratap Singh Deo was Jatan Kumari, a very pious lady, in whose name Pattayet Narsingh Pratap Singh Deo built a palatial building named Jatan Nagar, which is about 6kms away from the Palace. Jatan Nagar still exist in top of a hill in a dilapidated condition. I hope you will make the Necessary correction. There are many other factual errors in the article which I will not like to delve into. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shailoja Shankar Singh Deo (talk • contribs) 05:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

If you can provide reliable sources backing up these facts, please post it in the talk page of the article, and some other editor will fix it for you.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 05:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Your Anti-christian policy

I am curious as to why you are anti-Christian in your policies. Unless it is World Council of Churches or catholic, you are not obliging to posts depicting Christianity. I tried about a year ago and you just about made it impossible to publish about my church yet you have undocumented articles and out and out lies in other places that you have no trouble publishing.

Please make yourself clear. If you are anti-christian or don't want our contribution, please post that loud and clear. This way we do not waste our time. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.152.95 (talk) 06:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is run by volunteers like you and me. We're not anti-Christian, nor are we against or for anything. Does your church meet our notability guidelines? If so, then by all means write about it using the proper channels. We welcome any contribution that can make our encyclopedia better! In response to your misconception about our acceptance of lies, if you find things that you think are wrong, you should post your concerns on the faulty article's talk page, so that editors are aware of it. Of course, you should provide a rational explanation of why [it] is wrong, preferably with citations from reliable sources. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 06:23, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no editorial board. It is edited by volunteers from around the world. Please see WP:PILLAR, About Wikipedia and the frequently asked questions for further information.  Chzz  ►  06:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Note the above answers are a bit generic as we don't have the full details - can you tell us what church you were trying to create an article for? And you mention articles that contain "out and out lies" - which ones are those?? Tabercil (talk) 07:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't Portal:Christianity be a better place to start? Jim.henderson (talk) 11:29, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

My username is my article title ?

I just made an article on Hélène Boudreau, a Canadian children's and saved it and everything. I don't think it's been deleted, however I don't understand why the article is still titled under my username English1112 ? Why is that ? How can I change it to officially have it titled Hélène Boudreau ? Also, I can't seem to upload pictures, when I try all it shows is the URL in red for the information boxes wiki pages usually have at the top. How can I upload pictures on to this article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by English1112 (talk • contribs) 06:26, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

You didn't make an article, you made a user page. It hasn't been deleted, and is still available at your user page; when it is ready you can move it to the mainspace. However there are some issues with it in that the references are mainly works by the subject, but do not verify the statements made in the article (see how to cite sources, the guideline on reliable sources and the policy on verifiability; this is especially true for biographies of living persons). In order to get the best advice possible, I suggest you submit your article through the articles for creation process. As for pictures, you must ensure you have the right to distribute them. Do you own the pictures, or did you take them off the internet? Wikipedia only accepts pictures released under a free license, that is, usable by anyone for any purpose. See the page on copyright. If you do have the permission to release the pictures under a free license, then you can go on our sister site, Wikimedia Commons, and upload them there. If you do not, then please abstain from uploading them, as they will be deleted. I hope this helps, and best regards, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 06:36, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I moved the draft to User:English1112/Hélène Boudreau, which is where it should have been all along. In the meantime, why not create a new page, User:English1112, that tells us about you and what you hope to accomplish here. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I see that English1112 has copied it to article space at Hélène Boudreau. —teb728 t c 14:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

LTJ Bukem

Re There are a few incorrect facts in the article on Danny Williamson - LTJ Bukem. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/LTJ_Bukem He was born in Croydon, not Watford. He was adopted not fostered. Danny came to live with my wife and myself when he was 6 weeks old and legally adopted by us when he was three months old. We were living in Rochdale, Lancashire. When he was 2 years old we moved to Hornchurch Essex. It was when he was 10 years old we went to live in Watford. Danny has lived in and near Watford ever since then. I hope these errors can be corrected With thanks Andrew Williamson Daniel Andrew Williamson's Dad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.116.9 (talk) 09:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for letting us know.

Because we insist on verifiable facts, all I can do for now is, remove the information you contested. There was a reference to a BBC interview for some of it, but the link only shows that the programme existed - I couldn't actually get a copy of it to verify. So, I removed the claims.

If you are able, at any time, to supply appropriate reliable sources, we could add the information you have stated above.

Anything that lacks a reliable source may be removed, at any time - and especially on biographic articles.

You might also check Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject).

Again, thanks for letting us know about the inaccuracies. Best,  Chzz  ►  13:08, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

How do I increase the text size on wikipedia?

Yes, I am getting older, but you've got to agree the text on your pages is really small. Really really small. And what with the side frames and all, notably the basic information one on the right side, there at the top, the width is also not uniform. This means that when I use my iPad, for instance, although I have zoomed in with that oh-so-addicting finger-pinching-zoom trick, I have to zoom back out fairly soon into reading the content, otherwise it's cut off on one side, forcing me to scroll left, then scroll right, then left, then right just to follow each and every sentence to find out if, for instance, one of my literaray heroes is or was left-handed. That's just an example, but you must know what I mean--trying to read like that makes me not want to read on your oh-so-wonderful site, to which I refer quite often!

Don't make me not want to read, please, I beg of you!

In the "solution" rather than the "problem" category, I have witnessed many a site with graduated capital letters of "A" in the upper right corner of the text frame, which when clicked upon, enlarge the textual content of its web page without making the page off-kilter in the process. Could this be the oh-so-easy solution? I would love that if it could be.

I know that being over 40 is very "in" right now, so hopefully my concerns as one of these people may be taken more seriously than perhaps some currently not-so-hip people, like the under-six age category that's likely burying you with emails, clamoring for your attention. Their issues concerning the web are specifically irrelevant when you think of what kinds of Internet interfacing they will be doing by the time they become teenagers, much less adults, certainly! It will likely be a little card of some kind, like an SD but inconceivably better, which they perhaps insert directly into their brains, probably with real-time automatic wikipedia access! Just as they begin to formulate a question--POOF!! The wiki answer makes it immediately known to them! They may never even know they did NOT know it, OR that the answer was externally provided from wiki via their integrated version of wifi--ultimate wireless! It could happen, no one *really* knows.

Anyway, thanks so much for your attention to this matter. I appreciate what you are doing very much! Sincebirth (talk) 11:07, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Kelli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sincebirth (talk • contribs) 10:47, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I too have started using a bigger screen at home. For looking things up while bicycling that's not practical, so my little Samsung M910 Intercept looks at the ".m." version as in [5]. For Apple it's less automatic than for my Android but it can be made to work. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I do have a font-size gadget (only works in Vector) at User:Edokter/FontSizer.js which you can enable by putting importScript('User:Edokter/FontSizer.js'); into your vector.css file. — Edokter (talk) — 11:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

If your browser has an option to change font size (in IE8 on a desktop/laptop, it's either in View or in the Accessibilty window in Internet Options), Wikipedia will change its font size (there are some sites that won't unless you force the browser to ignore it). - Purplewowies (talk) 21:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Change the layout of the appeal on the top of the pages

Hello wikipedia!

As you can see from the attached link, or by going to any page about a person you can notice that the picture of Wikipedia's founder is on top of their name. Kinda misleading as I don't even know or care who has founded Wikipedia.

BR, Just a plain boring broke-ass user

http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Eino_Rahja - Who is this? http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Michael_Jackson - Oh, so white. Even tho he is very pale nowadays I see. http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Elizabeth_II - She has become to look so manly lately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.34.139 (talk) 11:21, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I understand your concern, but because the fund-raising is operated by the Wikimedia Foundation, and this is just the Wikipedia help-desk, it would be better if you asked over at meta:Talk:Fundraising 2011. You could also email problemsdonatingwikimedia.org. You might get further answers right here (so - check back) but, I think you're more likely to get help with this at one of those other places. Chzz  ►  11:23, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Lyudmila Pavlichenko

Over the past period, several anonymous vandals have removed referenced material from Lyudmila Pavlichenko. I just reverted the second effort by someone. How can we protect this page? I've never done it and maybe someone else who knows how can do so. Thanks. Timothy Perper (talk) 13:13, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

You could request it at WP:RPP, but I also suggest you try contacting those other users on their talk pages, to try and discuss things. Looking at the history shows that the disagreement is with several IP users, yet they do not even have talk pages. It's worth at least trying to make contact, asking them to discuss things on the talk page of the article. Of course, they might ignore you - but it's worth a try.

Protection is an emergency measure, and usually short-term. If you can try and find out why they keep changing it, maybe discussion can resolve the dispute, instead of protection.

I realise they've not made any efforts to discss things on the article talk page, but if they're genuine new users, they may have no idea that such pages exist; putting a message on their talks might get their attention. Chzz  ►  13:18, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Chzz. I tried that, and another (not-siged-in) user did reply. We discussed issues, and some changes were made that I thought were sensible. But more vandals have arrived, and the newest vandal hasn't replied on the talk page. Nor have any of the other vandals. Whether or not these are different people or all the same person, I don't know. I have the article on my watch list, but it's getting annoying. But I'll try it again. Timothy Perper (talk) 13:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I can't locate any talk pages for the most recent vandal. So I'll keep on reverting the changes. Timothy Perper (talk) 13:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I requested semi-protection since I can't find any user talk pages for these folks. Timothy Perper (talk) 13:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Disagreeing with you is not the same as vandalism. I see you have carried on a discussion on the talk page with the people who deleted the section, who have presented a reasoned, and presumably sincerely held, argument for removing it. I make no suggestion as to whether you or they are right: you clearly have a content dispute which has become, or is close to becoming, an edit war. If you cannot reach consensus this should be handled according to WP:DR. Vandalism does not figure, and page protection would be grossly inappropriate. --ColinFine (talk) 23:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

You're reading something into the discussion that isn't there. The people removing content aren't "disagreeing" with me -- they're removing content for no stated reason. There have been (so far) two editors who have put forth their own (different) opinions, and that's fine -- I have no objections to that at all. However, I do object when anonymous editors simply delete material for no reason they explain -- which has happened. And those people have not come forth on the talk page and said "I feel XYZ and therefore did PQR." As long as they don't explain what their thinking is, these anonymous folks are acting against consensus. And I will continue to revert vandalism. I hope that's clearer. Timothy Perper (talk) 02:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

adding multiple external links

My husband has a website called Classic Collection of North American Birds, www.birds-of-north-america.net, he has asked me to add external links to many birds found on Wikipedia that are also on his site. After editing 5 birds today, I received a caution email about "adding external links to many different Wikipedia pages in rapid succession". Can I continue to add external links beyond 5 of them? Kesha59 (talk) 15:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

You can, but the way in which you are doing it seems dishonest. An external link is for users to find more information on the topic. You are adding the link to your website at the top of the list of external links and spamming your website across as many Wikipedia pages as possible. Why? It doesn't seem like you are trying to improve information on Wikipedia. It seems like you are trying to abuse Wikipedia to boost your traffic to your website. -- kainaw™ 16:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

As Kainaw pointed out the issue is mainly that you are intending only to add links to a site you are affiliated with, as you have a conflict of interest you should be acting with extreme care, ideally suggesting the link on the respective article talk pages so uninvolved editors can assess and maybe add the link on your behalf. Яehevkor ✉ 16:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Question boxes

Hi, on Joan Massague's biography page, I noticed that there were two question or warning boxes:

1. "This article relies on references to primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject, rather than references from independent authors and third-party publications. Please add citations from reliable sources." The references I provided were specifically for Dr. Massague's research papers (linked to the PubMed abstracts). These are reliable sources, published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, and appropriate references. I'm not sure what third party publications I would need to add, but if there are please let me know. Also, if the papers I've cited are sufficient, how do we get that question box to be removed?

2. (in the reference section) This article uses bare URLs for citations. Please consider adding full citations so that the article remains verifiable in the future. Several templates and the Reflinks tool are available to assist in formatting. (Reflinks documentation) (November 2011) Thankfully, someone has taken care of re-doing these references and cleaning up the potential link rot. Now that this has apparantly been addressed, how do I remove this question box?

Thank you for your time. Enapolitano (talk) 17:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

1. Articles need to assert notability, by showing evidence of "significant coverage in independent reliable sources. For example: if a person writes 10 books, that does not necessarily mean that the person is 'notable' (and thus, suitable for inclusion) - anyone could write 10 books, but if nobody writes about their work, they may still be unknown. For that reason, encyclopaedic articles should be mainly based on secondary coverage. There's more about that in WP:PSTS. In the specific case of Joan Massagué Solé, the article does seem to concentrate on demonstrating what the person wrote, rather than what others think about what he wrote - if you see what I mean.

2. Someone else already removed it [6] - it was the line saying, {{cleanup-link rot|date=November 2011}}. For more info about that, see Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup.  Chzz  ►  17:11, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

EDIT CONFLICT: I removed the url tag. Chzz said everything else I was about to say. -- LWG ^talk 17:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Keeping sources confidential except to Wikipedia editors

Subject -- Larchmont Village

I re-inserted an addition to Larchmont Village . I have many people to verify what was said . I want to keep their names private . The addition I made is true . Deletion is your loss .

verification : "Barbara Altman Mathieu Phd" (removed email address) -- privat email /retired professor Loyola Marymount (anthropology ) - she along with Dr. Jok founded the Marol School in the Sudan

William Noyes Phd -- lived on Arden and mentioned in article /retired history Professoor University Arizona — Preceding unsigned comment added by CTCMD (talk • contribs) 18:02, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to post hearsay. Anything you include must be supported by reliable resources, not something that someone overheard. -- kainaw™ 18:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

copying external articles with a creative commons license to WP

I had started an article about a scholar and while looking for a source for the scholar's birth date, I stumbled upon an external article, written by another scholar, about my subject. This article comes with a creative commons license (cc by 3.0). Would it be OK to copy this article onto WP?-MW ^ℳ 18:10, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Please provide links to the articles concerned. It is much easier to deal with specific concrete information than hypothetical concepts. Roger (talk) 18:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Yup. You are right, I should have done it already. Will try to keep this point in mind henceforth. The article is Andries Van Aarde, and the external article is [7]-MW ^ℳ 03:22, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

From a copyright perspective, the answer is Y yes. Provide attribution (using the appropriate {{CC-notice}} if you want) to "Gerda de Villiers, University of Pretoria" or some other reasonable variation. From a content guideline perspective, the answer is maybe. You can take content from the source to build an encyclopedic article, but dumping the article as is will run afoul of neutrality, undue weight, the manual of style, etc. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi CharlieEchoTango. Thanks for the response and clarifications. Using the {{CC-notice}} template is a great idea. Instead of dumping the article as is, I now plan to modify the article and insert a general note at the end of the article (above the references section) saying something like "This article is adapted from...". I too see several sentences which may need deletion and some section headings may need modification, rearrangement, etc. I plan to do it in the coming days. Cheers, and have a nice day :-) MW ^ℳ 05:46, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

rules

in womens college basketball D3 on a jump ball dose the 30 sec. clock get reset for the team that had the ball or dose the clock stay were it was? my e-mail is thank u — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.249.11 (talk) 19:35, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

(I have removed your email address to protect your privacy). I suggest you ask at the Entertainment reference desk. Some of the volunteers there enjoy sports questions and will do their best to help you. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:58, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

re: facebook link - it's up to you. She has frequent updates over there, including salons, articles, etc. Adviserslegal (talk) 23:56, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

re: facebook link - it's up to you. She has frequent updates over there, including salons, articles, etc. Adviserslegal (talk) 23:56, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Have you a question about using Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 23:59, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

November 18

How to quote an interview

Is there a specific template for quoting a dialogue, like an interview wherein the questions being asked need to be quoted word-for-word? Or should I just use {{blockquote}} and wing it? CityOfSilver 00:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

{{dialogue}}, perhaps? Seems to be more intended towards character dialogues than interviews, but if your dialogue is less than 10 lines, it could do. Otherwise blockquote seems like the way to go, I'm not aware of any other template. Oh, and you probably already know this, but beware fair use (e.g. a 400+ word Q&A would probably be inappropriate). I hope this helps, and happy editing! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 02:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Are the Wikipedians really serious about Userboxitis?

Are the Wikipedians really serious about Userboxitis? Or is this just a joke disease like "cooties"? Why is having Userboxitis a bad thing? Can it be completely cured, or are the victims forever obsessed with Userboxes, and there is no known cure for this disease? Do I have Userboxitis? I only have a few Userboxes on my Userpage, not like 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one sextillion Userboxes). SuperSuperSmarty (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

No, Wikipedians are a diverse bunch but hardly any are serious about this sort of sillines. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

meta/color ???

For background, please see Lord Fusituʻa/meta/color and User talk:TexasAndroid#Meta/color. I came across this while Short Pages patrolling. And deleted it. It's been protested and recreated. I'm 99% certain that, whatever the user is trying to do, it does not belong in article space like this. But are they trying to do something better done via a template, or is there actually some way to set meta attributes on pages, as s/he appears to be trying to do? - TexasAndroid (talk) 02:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Well one thing is for sure, even if the main space supported subpages (e.g. linked from the article using {{/meta/color}}), this specific one doesn't really make any sense as the Lord Fusituʻa article doesn't exist and the template is used on the constituency article. If anything it belongs to the template namespace, like all templates used in articles (including other /meta/color templates). The fact that it showed up on Special:ShortPages, and your answer is quite right on your talk page, is exactly why this sort of thing doesn't belong in the article space. Best, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 02:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

PETER SELLERS

Missing data: nowhere does it mention he was in the James Bond spoof "Casino Royale" (1967) with David Niven, Ursula Andress, Orson Welles and Woody Allen. He got the top billing on the DVD that I own. I enjoyed him in that part, among his many others and think it should at least be mentioned.

Thank you,

50.38.38.65 (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Rev. Ray Perryman

Not sure what article you're reading, its mentioned twice, Peter Sellers#Personal conflicts and Peter Sellers#Filmography--Jac16888 ^Talk 02:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Turn off donation ads

Is there a way to turn off these damned donation ads? I only need to see them once not constantly!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PumpkinSky (talk • contribs) 17 November 2011, 22:40 (EST) (UTC)

The answer is above. Please remember to sign your posts. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 03:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Where in prefs? PumpkinSky talk 03:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Gadgets, last line of the first section. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 03:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! It's really over done. PumpkinSky talk 03:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia mailing address to include in my matching grant contribution

My company will match my donation but I need to enter your mailing address 76.254.44.77 (talk) 03:56, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Inc.

149 New Montgomery Street, 3rd Floor

San Francisco, CA 94105

USA

Thank you for your donation! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

employment

Dear Wikipedia Staff,

I would like to find out how I may join Wikipedia in permanent employment please?

Regards SNGM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.53.59.35 (talk) 04:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Current job openings with the Wikimedia Foundation (the parent organization which includes Wikipedia) can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings . Good luck! --Jayron32 04:40, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

What the questioner may not realize is that we "staff members" do not work for the foundation; we are all volunteers. —teb728 t c 05:23, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering what happened to my paycheck... like, all of them... --Jayron32 05:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

As usual, everything here is subject to editing by anyone else. I performed a content-fork on your paycheck, offloading the bulk of the material into my bar-tab. DMacks (talk) 10:42, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

thomas davidson

founder and chairman of the salvation army — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.172.141 (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid you are mistaken. William Booth was the founder of the Salvation Army, not Thomas Davidson. --Jayron32 04:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Please edit something for me

I don't want to sign in, or create an account. I just use Wikipedia but don't want to sign-up, sign-on . . .or sign-in.

When I was reading about Zebra I read this under "STRIPES"

"Zebras are <expletive removed> with white stripes <expletive removed>. Half a coon is a coon! I hate zebras"

Please edit this for me. I would do it, but just don't want to sign-in, hope that doesn't make me a bad person? Maybe lazy LOL

THANKS. It's really not a nice thing to have on this site.

Seems like it was fixed in this edit. Note that you don't have to sign in to edit most articles on Wikipedia. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it seems to have been fixed already. Thanks for pointing this out though. Typical vandalism, but reverted. You don't need to sign in to edit most articles, so you could have fixed it yourself - we always welcome assistance from anonymous contributors, especially when assisting with dealing with idiots like this vandal. Sadly, this seems to have taken an hour to spot, which isn't good - though it is probably an indication that the article isn't being looked at that much. We have 'bots' which are programmed to spot obvious vandalism, and I'm surprised this one wasn't detected. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

When your name starts with "Z" you always eng up at the back of the queue! Roger (talk) 11:12, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Automatically generate list of all pages a user has edited and extract coords, if any

Hello, I have a somewhat strange and technical question. I'd like to be able to automatically (or semi-automatically) create a list of all the article pages I've ever edited and extract each page's coordinates (the {{coord}} template at least, and ideally coordinates in geoboxes), if a page has coordinates. The idea is to map the coordinates with an application like Google Maps. I tend to edit geographic articles and am curious to see the distribution over my years here. I'm also thinking of making a map like this, if it isn't too hard, for a friend who quit Wikipedia some time ago but had amassed at least 70,000 edits, a great many of which were geographic and focused on British Columbia. I was thinking it would be a nice "memorial" for his work--a way to say thanks for all that! Obviously I would get his permission and participation in gathering the list and coords--I assume I would need to. So my question is--is this possible? If so, ideas on how to do it? Would it be relatively easy or technically challenging? I have some background with geographic data manipulation, so given a list of coords I should be able to make a map. I just don't know how I'd generate such a list. I know there are lots of tools over at toolserver.org, but I haven't spent a lot of time over there. Clues? Thanks. (Just to cover my bases, I think I will also post this question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. My apologies for cross-posting--I suspect the number of active responders both here and there is rather small) Pfly (talk) 05:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

You've had one reply at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates so I suggest the conversation continues there. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

knowledge economy

what is knowledge economy and its impact on library? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.64.24 (talk) 07:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 07:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

logo under non profitable education purpose

Actually i'm preparing a Wikipedia Page for my college and while using its logo under non profitable education purpose; Wikipedia is saying that only administrators have rights to do so. Can you please help me out for this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitesh.pendesk (talk • contribs) 07:11, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Indira College Of Engineering and Management (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm sorry, I have tagged the page for deletion as a copyright violation, as its content is copy+pasted from various pages at the college's website. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an extension of your college's website. Please work through the FAQ page for organisations which explains the issues more clearly than I can here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Unified account conflicts

What is the correct procedure for dealing with name conflicts in unified accounts? I am trying to make my account universal, but there appears be a user with my name on the Chinese wiki, at http://zh.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:LWG. Unfortunately I can't read Chinese, so I have no idea how to determine whether this account is an active contributor, or how to get it renamed/usurped if it isn't. -- LWG ^talk 11:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

That user does not appear to have any contributions so it should be usurpable for SUL. Most likely here (google translate may be of help understanding the text). Jarkeld (talk) 11:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

(e/c)Here are Google translations of the contributions and logs. They show only account creation in 2008. —teb728 t c 11:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC) I fixed the logs link; the contributions link is also broken: I will try to fix it. —teb728 t c 11:50, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Editing photo captions

Am having trouble changing a word in a caption. The caption text shown as the original text is not the same as that appearing in Wiki, so can't locate the word I want to change! DouglasDugden (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Which picture on which page? Jarkeld (talk) 11:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

wasiyat nama

ek maan apni saari jaaydad haj par jaane ke pehle agar apne teen beten aur teen betiyon ke rehte hue sirf do beton ko hi registered wasiyat kar deti hai to kyaaye jaayez hai aur haj ke dauraan unka inteqal ho jaata hai kyaa ye wasiyat jaayez hai ?