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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 July 20. Primefac (talk) 07:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 13:38, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sub template. Gonnym (talk) 12:39, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2011. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:12, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, documentation, categories, incoming links from discussions, or template parameters. This appears to be an abandoned demonstration or was superseded by something better. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:11, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, documentation, incoming links from discussions, or template parameters. Created in 2013. Appears to have been abandoned or superseded. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. plicit 12:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. This template appears to be usable only by its creator. It should probably be userfied if it is still in use. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:08, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • I use it each time I do a GA Review - it is currently used at Talk:Ernest Rutherford/GA1 and Talk:L. Ron Hubbard/GA2. I have used it over a hundred times since creation. It is not transcluded, it is substituted. If there is a problem that could be solved by userfying, then let's do that - though what exactly is a userfied template? Will it still work? And, I am a little puzzled as to why Jonesey95 didn't approach me regarding problems with this template, rather than starting this TfD. Communication is key to making this project work smoothly and pleasantly. SilkTork (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm glad to hear that it is in use. This nomination does not reflect badly on you in any way; I'm just processing a list of unused templates, and there are a LOT of them. "Userfy" means that it would be moved to something like User:SilkTork/GAstart. You could subst it from there with no problems. As for contacting you directly in a customized way, I could have done that, but with thousands of unused, undocumented, and uncategorized templates to process, it is frankly a better use of everyone's time for me to use this formal process, tagging them with Twinkle and posting an automated boilerplate message to the page's creator. If the wording of the automated message seems harsh or impersonal, it could probably be modified. It lives at Template:Tfdnotice. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As the template has been in use for over 8 years, is currently in use, and will continue to be used, I'm not seeing a reason per WP:TFD#REASONS or Wikipedia:Template namespace for why the template should be deleted nor why it should be userfied. The only recent change, which is perhaps why it has come to attention, is that a Category:Wikipedia GA templates has recently been added. My suggestion is that Category:Personal message templates should be used instead. SilkTork (talk) 08:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per SilkTork. I really don't see why this needs to be userfied - it's a generic template and in no way specific to that user. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    At this writing, the template contains this code: If you have done something, please say so under my query, but allow me to check and make the decision as to if it is done or not - that way I know what I have checked and what I haven't. SilkTork (talk). Maybe I'm misreading the code, which happens, but this does not look to me like a generic template that anyone except its creator could use. Hence the recommendation to Userfy, where it would remain functional for its creator. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:11, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    That one bit could easily be replaced with some code to fill out the user's signature. The rest of the template is generic and that merely indicates obscurity, not inherent specificity. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:08, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links from discussions. Appears to be an abandoned experiment from 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:06, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unnecessary, misleading, and incomplete no-hitter templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:06, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary and lack information/can be misleading and confusing. Also incomplete; the user abandoned the project in the middle of making it, making them for only 11 out of 30 MLB teams.
While made in good faith, these templates are unnecessary. The main reason being there already is a template for team-specific no-hitters: Template:Lists of no-hitters by franchise AND there is already a page dedicated to no-hitters which actually details the no-hitters instead of leading to the page of a pitcher who pitched a no-hitter and gives little other info on the no-hitter itself.
These templates are also misleading with regards to combined no-hitters and teams which have long since moved from one city to another AND/OR have changed their names, ignoring the history of the team itself; e.g. Walter Johnson was a Washington Senator, not a Minnesota Twin; Addie Joss played for the Cleveland Naps, not the Guardians; Cy Young played for the Boston Americans, not the Red Sox - a few examples amongst many. The team-specific pages use the current names as well but tell the history of the team in the lede of the page. As for perfect games, that already has a template as those are special, rare occurances and each game has a page of its own.
Had there been one for each team, I would have let it go. However, since they are NOT complete and not updated either, it is easier to simply delete them; the above mentioned, better documented alternates are already doing the work of these templates. -- Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:17, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete You make a good point. All perfect games and no-hitter articles, although the latter doesn't get one, should be part of the main templates for MLB teams. This is overkill. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:25, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    My main issue is that they are incomplete (only for 11 of the 30 teams) and the user has, so far, shown no interest in continuing this project. The second is that don't give information about said no-hitters which are provided by these other pages, making them unnecessary and vague at best. -- Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:25, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A simple image that shouldn't have been a template. Subst usage and delete. Gonnym (talk) 02:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and won't be used as there is no such portal. Gonnym (talk) 02:28, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused colored box. Gonnym (talk) 02:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template. Gonnym (talk) 02:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused portal related template. Gonnym (talk) 02:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 July 20. Primefac (talk) 08:04, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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