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Special noms

Oh Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel,
I made it out of clay,
and when it's dry and ready,
Oh Dreidel I shall play!

For Hanukkah, this year. iMatthew 17:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this enough consensus yet? ayematthew 20:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus for 22nd December, 2008. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like something that has been done before, but a quick search of the Motto of the Day archives yields nothing. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 15:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment: How about changing the link to m:The future of Wikipedia? —La Pianista (TCS) 17:52, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Rejected per edit 1 Matty4123 (talk) 20:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Per La Pianista --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Matty4123 (talk) 20:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Suggestion Approved this but thought that this might be a good MOTD for January 15, 2009 (Wikipedia's 8th Birthday). Haven't heard any other plans for this day and this shows people where wikipedia is heading. Thoughts? Matty4123 (talk) 16:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Approved - getting few comments so i'm gonna go ahead and put it in before its too late - Matty4123 (TCA)

Wikipedia, where the information is as abundant as the digits in pi.

For pi day, March 14th. Since pi has an infinite number of digits, the amount of information on wikipedia is infinite? (I know this may have been done, but was it done on pi day? And the only exception to this not being universal that I can think of is in places where the date is not written month/day/year, so I'm not that sure on this one) Redian (Talk) 22:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment I feel that's unfair. Today's motto, for example, compares the invention of Wikipedia to that of fire, which is hardly "neutral". --Islomaniac 973 14:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree with Islomaniac. A lot of our mottos could be said to "advertise" Wikipedia - That's almost the purpose of a motto. In doing so, you are supporting the project. Hersfold (talk/work) 17:16, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/March 14, 2009 Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

You're not gonna believe this!

Next April Fool's Day, why not have a real motto to match the real (but unbelievable) Main Page? Confusing Manifestation 22:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/April 1, 2009 by unanimous support. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Be of good cheer, for the Edit is always here.

It seemed like an all-year Christmasy-type motto, with elements of funnyness and seriousness. I don't quite know if it is as good as I think it is, though. Laleena 00:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Approved for December 25th, 2008. Simply south (talk) 15:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

More information than delivered in a speech or found on the Galapagos.

February 12, the birthday of Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin. I'm not sure if the part about the speech is exactly universal though. (I figure if I just keep trying I'll roll out a good one eventually.) Redian (Talk) 22:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Declined by consensus. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


Normal noms

Fly high, but don’t forget to let someone under your wing.

I came up with this saying last night, and I’m not one to brag, but I think it’s pretty good! Also, if any of you can find a better link for "Fly high", tell me. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Fly high, but don’t forget to let someone under your wing.

Edit 1. Per La Pianista. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:09, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


True ease in writing comes from art, not chance,
As those move easiest who have learned to dance.

Alexander Pope (1688–1744), An Essay on Criticism, Part II (1711) ~ Wikipedians are made and not born :). –pjoef (talkcontribs) 09:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Matty4123 (TCA) 19:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Tusser (1524–1580), Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry, "October's Abstract" (1557) ~ I'm sorry but I "saw" it on a book and not on Facebook :). –pjoef (talkcontribs) 09:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment: The links seem to be confusing to me. Are we calling abuse as a venture? Or are we calling abuse reporting as a venture or not a venture? Something that's displayed on a lot of pages should be clearer. Chamal talk 12:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Comment: O(o)P(s)POSE!!! ~ LOL ~ Well, I agree with you, Chamal. The sense of the Tusser's line is: "zero adventure, zero have" but I tried to interpret the first naught as wicked, bad, evil, incompetent, immoral, unethical, fallacious.... (I know that it is not correct and unclear.) So (IMHO) we have three chances:
   1.  to change the links to make them point to the most appropriate one (e.g.: WP:BBWP:FA);
   2.  to change the line to: bad adventure, nothing [to] have;
   3.  to NOT approve this motto.
Any suggestions are appreciated because this is a short and strong line, and I really like it. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 10:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Matty4123 (TCA) 19:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

An attempt at a motto that's precise and true to Wikipedia's core principles. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

A parody of "veni, vidi, vici", which is a FUI, but this is different. ~AH1(TCU) 02:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

~AH1(TCU) 02:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1 per Artichoke-Boy. —La Pianista (TCS) 00:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry

From here. ~AH1(TCU) 02:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Batman Begins It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me

A great quote from Batman Begins, perhaps you've heard it? Artichoke-Boy (talk) 22:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Edit 1. Per La Pianista's comment. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 23:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully, generations after us will continue to protect, preserve, and look after this wonderful land.

Issues that we must bring about in Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:55, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully, generations after us will continue to protect, preserve, and look after this wonderful land.

Edit 1. Per La Pianista's comments. I was actually going to add the "generations after us" link myself, but La Pianista beat me to it! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

At the end of the game, the pawn and the king go into the same box together

edMarkViolinistDrop me a line 21:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

That's actually what I had, the links just didn't show up for my three. edMarkViolinistDrop me a line 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

At the end of the game, the pawn and the king go into the same box together

What about this? (from RMV's above) RockManQ (talk) 03:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Let's Roll

edMarkViolinistDrop me a line 21:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

That's actually what I had, the links just didn't show up for my three. edMarkViolinistDrop me a line 14:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1 per Artichoke-Boy. —La Pianista (TCS) 23:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus here and above. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Old soldiers never die...
They just fade away.

Hopefully not an FUI. Any better link ideas are appreciated. :) —La Pianista (TCS) 20:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

It's not the knowledge that makes Wikipedia special, it's the community spirit.

Not sure of the links, if anyone can think of anything better I'm all ears. And I'm not sure if it has been used before. TopGearFreak Talk 18:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Not by strength, but by guile

Former motto of the Special Boat Service Chamal talk 12:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south not SS, sorry 20:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.

--LAAFansign review 02:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks.

no Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.

Edit 1. Per Nutiketaiel and 88wolfmaster. QAE 23:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Float like a butterfly,
Sting like a bee

I hope this works. Simply south (talk) 16:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Jealous Support.It does work, and I really like the links and the message as to what you can do to be graceful and powerful in Wikipedia. I had an idea to do a MODT with this exact quote, though! Darn. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I've checked on a search on google and the other one came up as a song by someone called Bigbang, and also seems to be quoted as either by the boxer. So should i change it? Simply south (talk) 19:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC) Changed. Simply south (talk) 20:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Fly like a butterfly,
Sting like a bee

Not quite the same as the Mohammad Ali as this one is a misquote and a song title by a band called Bigbang. I think the links work with Fly, better than float. It is also not quite the same as this. Simply south (talk) 21:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


A motto about citing sources when editing or creating an article. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment - The link goes perfectly with the motto. By citing your sources, you are crediting the source material for the information instead of trying to claim it for yourself- essentially, that you are not a crook. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:40, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Response to Chamal's comment: I actually made this link to specifically go with this saying, so I really can't think of another. Even if you don't like it the way it is, I don't think I can change it...sorry. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 22:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Stop, in the Name of Love!

...WikiHate vs. WikiLove. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I saw this on a T-shirt somewhere. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Moving intended version here. —La Pianista (TCS) 05:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

WTF DTM? (What the fuck does that mean?)

Hope this works out well... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Any ways I can make a point here with a good motto? Any suggestions guys? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
But Wikipedia is not censored. Like I said above, Any ways I can make a point here with a good motto? Any suggestions? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 22:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Why not? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

How about this? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Some users don't give a fuck.

It's true. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Hope that this motto can work... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Then why did you support the motto, "Rules are made to be broken"? I'm sure I know what common sense means. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
IAR states that one may ignore a rule if it prevents them from from improving Wikipedia. I'm not sure how WP:IAR applies to a motto on a userpage. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Changed the word to damn. Hope that helps. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 23:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Why must we include profanity in the mottoes? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Exactly. Why? —La Pianista (TCS) 20:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It's true. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a Facebook, but has a Facebook.

Don't really think this is gonna work, but... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

One, two, three, four, tell us what you're looking for.

Hope this works... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you think of a better link, since this can actually make it with new links. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 21:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


One, two, three, four, tell us what you're looking for.

Edit 1 - Forgot to tell eveyrone that the lyric was modified. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 23:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit 2 - Tried to do something different with this by showing different stages that would help when your wanting to become an admin. Doesn't look as good as I hoped it would. Matty4123 (TCA) 12:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined all - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I really don't know how these go in my brain... -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 10:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Rules are made to be broken

IAR - (ironically the first rule to be initiated on Nupedia ) Flewis(talk) 05:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Only shop because you have to, not because you want to

-My 2 cents at comparing the economic crisis with Afd . . . --Flewis(talk) 13:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of suggestion 1. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Only shop because you have to, not because you want to

Suggestion 1 - Matty4123 (TCA) 18:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Only shop because you have to, not because you want to

Suggestion 2 - Matty4123 (TCA) 18:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of suggestion 1. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Just Wiki it

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

NOTICE: This motto and the one below it are two link choices to the same saying (I cannot figure out which one to do!). I guess you can pick the one to use per consensus. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of Choice 2. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Choice 2. (See Above) Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I was trying to find a somewhat more PG version of "It's not the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean," and found this phrase. roux ] [x] 23:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

  • In case anyone is thinking this, I believe that maintaining the last link and changing the first to "WP:EDIANS" is a bad idea - it could be seen as a slant on Wikipedians ourselves. Just my two cents. —La Pianista (TCS) 23:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved La Plastina's version. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I will not let the sky be the limit when there are footprints on the moon.

Saw it on Facebook and immediately thought of a Wikipedia motto. I'm not too happy with the links, though; anybody have better ones? Trvsdrlng (talk) 05:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Whether it be tight or loose, we all hold on to something!

I'm not sure if there's a better alternative for the 4th link, but if you can come up with one, tell me. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Another from Tupac. This one's from one of his song.Matty4123 (TC) 20:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of choice 1. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Choice 1 - Matty4123 (TC) 20:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Choice 2 - Two different versions. Not really sure about the links though. Matty4123 (TC) 20:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Template motto trial

Seeing as this may be placed on a Wikipedian's userpage, i thought i might try it. It is a variation on {{proposal}}. Simply south (talk) 11:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I don't think the line Thus references or links to this page should not describe it as "policy" is appropriate here. It's used in {{proposal}} since it's a template used on proposed policy pages. But putting that on a user page might look weird. Chamal talk 12:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, i just deleted it now. How does it look? I've also clarified the title. Simply south (talk) 12:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Actions speak louder than words.

How's this? ~AH1(TCU) 23:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Imagine all the people.

Ceranthor(Sing) 02:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1 per Nutiketaiel, Pjoef, and I. —La Pianista (TCS) 00:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

We all have a choice between doing what is easy and do what is right

Vandalism is easy, but contributing positively to Wikipedia is more rewarding. Also, I think I heard this line from the upcomming Harry Potter movie trailer. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Weak Support: I think we have heard about the 'choosing' far too often. But it's OK I guess, as long something very similar hasn't been used before. Chamal talk work 11:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Response: Wait, you've got it all wrong! What I meant for this motto to say is that it's easy to vandalize Wikipedia, but in order to do the right thing, you should contribute positively. I never said that vandalism-fighting is bad (and it isn't!). Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Nothing is impossible. Some things are just less likely than others.

Matty4123 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

no Declined in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1. Changed links to those suggested Matty4123 (talk) 13:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, did I do a good link this time? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 00:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps if "Mind what you have learned" was linked to WP:ADOPT and "Save you it can" to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1. Changed the links to be Wikipedia related instead of Star Wars related. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

This is a motto that will relate directly to the Wikipedians. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 17:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Approved original per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

>>Flewis(talk) 11:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I took the survey, and I liked it.

~AH1(TCU) 22:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - Frequently used idea. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Has this been used before, or is it too late for that (should have been a special nomination etc)? ~AH1(TCU) 22:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

When one door closes, another door opens

This is a great quote from Alexander Graham Bell (hence the arrow-link). The original quote was actually "When one door closes, another opens", not "When one door closes, another door opens", but I hope that's not a problem. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:20, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

no Declined per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps, down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision