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I changed Doomsday event to disambiguate and directly link to related terms. The mention of civilization being destroyed no doubt might better link to end of civilization than to civilization —destruction and contstruction being so.. different. Of course using the revert button (youre not a newbie apparently) is usually poor form. Regards, -Ste|vertigo 23:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ste|vertigo -- You're right. I should have edited your changes to the opening sentence of Doomsday event rather than reverting them. Sorry. I removed your changes because I believe you made the opening sentence unnecessarily complex and a bit illogical. It doesn't really make sense to follow the expression "at the least" with two alternatives. Besides, internal links to End of civilization and Human extinction were already present under "See also." In the opening sentence, I think that the internal link really should be to "Civilization" since that is the basic concept which the reader needs to understand in order to understand the opening sentence. I'll watch my step from now on... WikiPedant 04:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the edit was a little unwieldy. "Internal links to End of civilization and Human extinction were already present under "See also." Yeah, well they belong in the lede. Disambiguation is useless if its done after the fact. Maybe you can figure something out. Regards. -Ste|vertigo 04:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doomsday films

Dear WikiPedant,

Hello and thank you for your note on Talk:Doomsday film about my attempts to categorise the list. You made some good points, and I admit that I was struggling a bit to assign the movies; The Day After Tomorrow did look odd on its own, and the less said about The Day of the Triffids, the better. The reason I added the categories was to break up the list which, when I first saw it, didn't quite meet WP:STYLE. I'm happy that you've removed any arbitrary category added by me, and I think that your new 'decade' system works well.

Nevertheless (there's always a 'nevertheless') I'm sure that there is still room in the article to address the theme of doomsday for each movie. This could be difficult to achieve, and could lead to another arbitrary categorisation, but I think it is important that some link is drawn between the year the movie was issued and the mood of Western Civilisation. For example, most Nuclear Weapons movies were released in the 1960s or 1980s (but why not the 1970s?) reflecting obvious concerns. Since the end of the Cold War, most doomsday films have concentrated on Celestial Impact, Disease, or Alien Invasion; all good metaphors, but which fears are being tickled? There's an interesting little essay for someone.

One final note for the time being; the definition of Doomsday. I believe a 'Doomsday Movie' should deal directly with the build-up to or consequences of the end of civilisation itself, and not with 'a more localized catastrophe—such as the destruction of a city.' I'm not convinced that the following movies should be on the list, and would welcome your thoughts:

The Beginning or the End: only oblique references to Doomsday in this Hiroshima story.
Seven Days to Noon while dealing with what would now be classed as an act of terrorism, does not quite threaten Doomsday.
Above and Beyond is really a bio-pic of Paul Tibbets.
Special Bulletin is more of a terrorist movie; Doomsday itself is not threatened.
The Matrix, while set in a post-apocalytic world, deals more with rebellion against a totalitarain régime.

Let me know what you think. --die Baumfabrik 16:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I haven't seen Last Night yet: is it a good show? --die Baumfabrik 16:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aristotle as Polymath

Hi WikiPedant

In the Aristotle article you removed the description "universal" from my comment that Aristotle was a "universal polymath" saying "universal" was redundant. But a polymath couild be good at, say, only three or four subjects. The point I was stressing that Aristotle was good at ALL subjects (at least as much as any human has been!) If you are being really pedantic you might say no one is absolutely good in absolutely every subject, therefore a universal polymath is an impossibility. But, I suggest, you should replace my hyperbole with something to indicate that Aristotle was more than the average polymath.

- User:Mal4mac

P.S. i couldn't see how to email you, hope this way of commenting isn't too deviant!

See User_talk:Mal4mac for my reply. -- WikiPedant 19:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict in need of resolution/request for comment

You are requested to offer your comment in the dispute, involving inter alia your name, outlined here. It was originally your post on my talkpage on 10 September 2006 (07:44 UTC), and subsequently on the talkpages of two other users, that precipitated the series of events that constitute the core of the dispute in question, and it would therefore be helpful if you could state whether you are content with the present outcome and with the actions that the two administrators named in the dispute had taken with regard of one of my user subpages on 13 September, and if you are not content, whether you see a way to resolving the impasse. Thank you. — Prof02 08:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aristotelianism

Thank you for your help on the Aristotelianism page. I appreciate it. Deletions and reversions without explanation are ridiculous. You have more faith, btw, in the Wiki system than I do. Eventually Wikipedia itself will only be an opinion poll... Pomonomo2003 20:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree completely about unexplained deletions/reversions, and am not terribly inclined to "assume good faith" when edits of this sort are made by unregistered users. The development of Wikipedia is certainly fascinating to watch, and, on balance, I think there really is progress (2 steps forward and anywhere from 1 to 1.99 back, but progress). It's planet Earth's grandest experiment in the democratization of knowledge dissemination. But there is a kind of overseer mechanism evolving, since watchlists allow those most invested in an article to "guard" it, and the admins and higher functionaries do have a capability to deal with destructive editors. WikiPedant 14:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two steps forward, 1.9 steps back would be wonderful! But what is to keep the 'admins and higher functionaries' from themselves eventually becoming the barbarians? Regarding the Aristotelianism page I am waiting for the book by Kevin Knight to come out. At some point Amazon was reporting its title as 'Revolutionary Aristotelianism' but it seems cooler heads prevailed... Pomonomo2003 19:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow

Wow, WikiPedant, that was an incredible message on my page. Admit it, you're trying to see if I'll preen or blush, aren't you? Well, I m doing both. It's amazing to get a letter that kind. :-) I really can't stay if Giano goes, though, because a project that'll do that just isn't a place I want to be. But at long last, I have a pretty good feeling about the outcome. For one thing, Fred has removed the case, and those increasingly desperate proposals for "remedies against Giano", from the RFAR page, with the edit sum "Starting over".[1] That can only be good, my optimism tells me. Start over, and start making sense, folks, that's what we elected you for! Bishonen | talk 21:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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responded on my talk. very happy to get to the bottom of this one, SqueakBox 18:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I notice you dont have an email address here. If you have broadband and a microphone perhaps we could actually talk as I do want to resolve this issue and that would be a useful start. My only concern is we get this right. Give me a shout, your message on my email page isnt so easy to get to the bottom of and today's events have left me confused and in doubt re this issue.I dont have the Dread bookright now but I have a good friend who does so as I say some kind of personal communication between you and I could be brilliant, SqueakBox 01:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello SqueakBox -- I have replied on your talk page. -- WikiPedant 15:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note to say that you are entirely correct about the two Joseph Owens and I've tried to explain this to SqueakBox on his talk page. Hopefully he will start being reasonable about it. Pascal.Tesson 19:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, see my contribs, Redemptionist and Jesuit, SqueakBox 16:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see it's been sorted out. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 20:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Added Template:Book cover fur to Image:BustosDomecq jacket.jpg -- WikiPedant (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Added Template:Book cover fur to Image:Needhams Inferno jacket.jpg -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiktionary block

I would like to be unblocked on wiktionary please --Gabba1e (talk) 18:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 71.254.97.20. is the ip for wiktionary.[reply]

Sorry, I'm not an admin. Not my line of work. -- WikiPedant (talk) 02:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm content to let this one be deleted. I doubt that it qualifies for fair use. -- WikiPedant (talk) 03:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay, I added Template:Book cover fur to the image description page -- WikiPedant (talk) 19:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm content to let this one be deleted. I doubt that it qualifies for fair use. -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Apology re your Nov/06 Wiktionary entry

No worries. It's an obscure term, I'm glad you found a source. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:01, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rationalism

Please contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationalist movement. It's fallout from a 2006 discussion that you participated in. Uncle G (talk) 00:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Uncle G -- OK, done. Thanks for the heads-up. -- WikiPedant (talk) 04:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffery Lord (Pseudonym)

I've been helping what I believe is a new user creating a new Jeffery Lord article (including just moving it to (Jeffrey Lord (Author)) but just noticed your edit on the Jeff Lord page about the AfD that I didn't see when I searched around earlier. I'm not sure if the new user is the same one who created the original deleted article? It looks like he just created a new article at Richard_Blade_(series) as well with basically the same information though he seems to be honestly trying to come up with sources (and it does appear to have some Notability imo). What do you think we should do? I would guess the options would be deleting both pages, keeping just one (I would guess the book series article) or of course deleting both again. If we keep one I think it would be reasonable to have a link to it on the Jeff Lord page. Jamesofur (talk) 00:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello James -- Thanks for your message. I think the series has more than enough notability to merit an article and am glad that one has been created. As for verification, the existence of the book series hardly strikes me as an issue, since lots of the titles come up as used books at amazon.com and 3 of the titles in the series are even in the Library of Congress catalog. I'd be inclined to go just with an article on the book series, and keep Jeffrey Lord as, at most, a redirect. Mostly I edit wiktionary now, but when I get a little time, I'll see if I can add something to the article about the book series. -- WikiPedant (talk) 03:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comment, I'm going to make a note to the creating user and see if I can get him to agree. If he does I'll just get that SD'd and we can work on the book series. Thanks again Jamesofur (talk) 06:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Using Watcher to watch Wiktionary

Replied here. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Copyright issue with Doomsday event

Looking through the edit history of the article Doomsday event I see that you have been the most significant contributor, so wanted to approach a possible problem with you before going through formal Wikipedia channels. Specifically there appears to be a strong (and uncited) correspondence between this article and a published article by Corey S. Powell in the October 2000 Issue of 'Discover Magazine'. While the language used is not exactly the same, the subtopics and categorization in the article Doomsday event seems nearly identical to the 2000 Discover article.

Please let me know what research methods you've used in the construction of this Wikipedia article, and any reasons to allay concern of copyright infringement according to Wikipedia's best practices regarding such problems.

I'm sending you this talk page note with absolutely no malice, particularly as I am aware you are not the only editor to work on the Doomday Wikipedia article. Having been familiar with the 10 year old Discover article I noted what seemed to me to be a marked similarity, so I wanted to investigate. I hope all is going well with you. -Markeer 17:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Markeer -- Thanks for your note pointing out Powell's Discovery magazine piece. I did indeed edit the Doomsday Event article in early days here (although I did not create it) and added a few of the earlier items to the list of ways the world can end. I also added the three headings: Natural Events, Non-natural Events, and Supernatural Events (the last now missing), which struck me as a logical way to group them. And at one point I rewrote the opening paragraph and the one that's there now still bears a little resemblance to what I wrote. Since 2007, though, I've generally just copyedited it off and on and reverted fatuous or vandal edits. I've never seen Powell's article, and what I added was not really researched much at all. I've always been an astronomy buff and have long known (as do many astronomy buffs) a number of the standard cosmic threats posed to human existence, and what I added was mostly just written off the top of my head. For decades I subscribed to SKY AND TELESCOPE and ASTRONOMY magazine, but never DISCOVER and I've never before seen Powell's piece. (Come to think of it, there was an article in either SKY AND TELESCOPE or ASTRONOMY in the early-to-mid 1990s which listed these sorts of events too, but my copy of that had been tossed out long before I came across the Doomsday Event article here.) Powell's article (turns out he's a well established pop science writer) is a good one, and he does indeed come up with a nice, long list of the "usual suspects" of doomsday events with colorful characterizations of each. And he groups them into natural / man-made categories too. But there are no big surprises in any of this and I think it is inaccurate to call the articles "nearly identical". Frankly, the groupings are logical and the list of events has been "out there" for a while. I didn't go over every line in both our article and his, but I see no evidence of anything that can reasonably be construed as plagiarism or a copyright vio. In fact, his individual write-ups about the events seem entirely different from the ones in the Wikipedia article. So, like the cop on the street, I'd be inclined to say "Move along, folks. Nothing to see here." -- WikiPedant (talk) 02:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply, particularly as what you say is basically what I had hoped to hear, that any article similarities are a result of logical confluence, not intentional duplication. That you added the subheadings absent any knowledge of the Powell article is enough for me, and I hope all else is going well with you. -Markeer 16:51, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Katie -- Thank you. I'm glad to see the page patrollers' workload lightened even a little. -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:49, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Nagarjuna - violation of wikipedia policy

Hello Wikipedant, I saw that you removed my comments on the page on Nagarjuna citing : (Undid revision 712456872 by Vtpcnk (talk). Violation of Wikipedia policy. See Wikipedia:No original research.) (undo | thank)

Appreciate it if you could point to the exact issues I need to address.

Thanks for your help and patience.

Rgds, vtpcnk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vtpcnk (talk • contribs) 06:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello vtpcnk -- Thanks for your message. You clearly have a strong interest in and solid knowledge of Nagarjuna and Madhyamika Buddhism and I note that you refer to the work of Radhakrishnan and Moore, Suzuki, T.R.V. Murti and others. (Coincidentally, back in the 1960s -- long ago! -- I took a course from T.R.V. Murti when he visited here in Canada for a semester.) However, the 7 points you added all strike me as Original Research ("OR", in Wikipedia lingo) which is strictly forbidden. It is OK to quote a published authority (briefly, one hopes) who has an opinion on Nagarjuna and it is OK to quote another published authority (also briefly) who expresses a counter-opinion. But it is not OK for editors to insert their own arguments or opinions into Wikipedia articles, and that's what your 7 points constitute -- a sustained argument against Richard P. Hayes' published view. Editors just can't do that -- they must write at all times from a Neutral Point of View ("NPOV" in Wikipedia lingo). The Hayes quotation is already preceded by 2 quotations from authorities who regard Nagarjuna as highly influential (and, for what it's worth, I agree that he was indeed, and still is, very influential), and that's what is needed here. I am sorry, but I just don't see a place for your 7-point argument in this article. Although, if you could find another quotation by an authority attesting to Nagarjuna's importance, you could add it after the Hayes quotation, resulting in a total of 3 quotations in favor of Nagarjuna's importance and 1 against, and ending the section on the right note. Just don't express your own views in an article. Respectfully -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikipedant, thanks for the response and your kind words.

I am a bit envious of you now since you studied under TRV Murti, who I have great admiration for as he had that rare ability to make complex things simple - even more so than his 'revered teacher' S.Radhakrishnan.

Coming to the issue at hand, there is a difference between what Richard Hayes compared to what the other two say. While Jay Garfield and Gadjin Nagao simply point to Nagarjuna's influence based on generic reasons like 'buddhists all over the world take him seriously' or that mahayana schools accept him as the founder, Richard Hayes gives specific reasons for his argument : 1. abhidharmika schools flourished for centuries without trying to counter Nagarjuna. 2. likewise Dignaga and Dharmakirti too did not make such an attempt. 3. and Buddhist intellectual life continued as if Nagarjuna never existed.

Hayes view is misinformed on many fronts :

1. Historically no school stopped development of their doctrines just because some dominant philosopher criticized their theories. They continued to defend their views and develop their doctrines. The Nyaya school being a notable example which has a continued development till this day inspite of Nagarjuna and Shankara (But then it is to be noted even for Nagarjuna and Shankara who deny the *ultimate validity* of all pramanas, still logic has its place at the phenomenal level of truth (samvritti/vyavahara). Likewise Vijnanabhikshu developing Samkya centuries after Shankara. and the Jainas continuing to develop Syaadvaadha.

2. Historically the Nyaaya school battled with the Buddhists the most - see Udhayanacharya's rebuke to God in Kusumanjali that 'His' existence depended on the Nyaya school when the Buddhists reigned supreme. Nagarjuna had criticized the pramanas on many fronts. So the pramana school - the Nyaya - has already responded to his criticisms. So Dignaga and Dharmakirti had to respond to the concerns raised by the Nyaya logicians.

3. Richard Hayes also seems to make it out as if Buddhist philosophy grew in isoloation - without any reference to the vedic and jaina schools. This is simply untrue as almost every school developed its own doctrines often by criticizing other schools and specificially one main opponent. For Nagarjuna and Dignana and Dharmakirti it was the Nyaya school who was their main opponent given their focus on pramanas. There would not have been a Madhyamika Shastram without the Nyaya Sutram. Likewise no Pramana Samukkayam without the Nyaya Bashyam. Likewise no Pramana vartikkam without the Nyaya Vartikam. There is a reason that the Dignaga-Dharmakirti school is also referred to as the Buddhist Nyaya.

This organic relationship between the various schools of Indian philosophy is obvious to most people who have read Indian philosophy as a whole - which was the case with many writers a few decades back. Hayes view is symptomatic of so many modern Buddhist writers who have studied only Buddhism and write from that partial perspective.

So is this my original contribution?

That schools kept developing their doctrines inspite of stiff opposition (with specific mention of the nyaya and vijnana bhikshu) and the dialogue between the nyaya logicians and nagarjuna/dignaga/dharmakirti is specifically mentioned by S.Radhakrishnan in his Indian Philosophy.

I would like to add that Nagarjuna's influence was also felt by Vedic schools which saw the rise of Advaita Vedanta - which is again written about by so many authors. Advaita's prime opponent of the day was the Mahayana. So it is in consideration of Nagarjuna's and Vasubandhu's views that Advaita Vedanta itself reinterprets the Upanishads. The influence is so marked that Advaitins like Sri Harsha and Chitsuka defend Madhyamika views against the attacks of the Mimamsakas - imagine the irony of the uttara mimamsa defending nastikas against the purva mimamsa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vtpcnk (talk • contribs) 03:46, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikipedant, I have added quotes from S.Radhakrishnan and Chandradhar Sharma to show how Madhyamika influenced Advaita Vedanta. Unfortunately I don't have TRV Murti's work on hand or I would have used it. Thanks.

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April 6th.

Hi Wikipedant, I went through the article on Nagarjuna and found these inconsistencies. Appreciate it if you could look through them.

There is no reference/citation provided for the (disputable) claims made below - which would fall under 'original research' I think (listed as per subsection) :

Writings : "The only work that all scholars agree is Nagarjuna's is the Mūlamadhyamakakārikā (Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way), which contains the essentials of his thought in twenty-seven chapters".

"There is an ongoing, lively controversy over which of those works are authentic. Contemporary research suggest that these works belong to a significantly later period, either to late 8th or early 9th century CE, and hence can not be authentic works of Nāgārjuna".

Philosophy : "If the most commonly accepted attribution of texts (that of Christian Lindtner) holds, then he was clearly a Māhayānist, but his philosophy holds assiduously to the Śrāvaka Tripiṭaka, and while he does make explicit references to Mahāyāna texts, he is always careful to stay within the parameters set out by the Śrāvaka canon".

Shunyata : "For Nāgārjuna, as for the Buddha in the early texts, it is not merely sentient beings that are "selfless" or non-substantial; all phenomena (dhammas) are without any svabhāva, literally "own-being", "self-nature", or "inherent existence" and thus without any underlying essence. They are empty of being independently existent; thus the heterodox theories of svabhāva circulating at the time were refuted on the basis of the doctrines of early Buddhism. This is so because all things arise always dependently: not by their own power, but by depending on conditions leading to their coming into existence, as opposed to being".

"Understanding the nature of the emptiness of phenomena is simply a means to an end, which is nirvana. Thus Nagarjuna's philosophical project is ultimately a soteriological one meant to correct our everyday cognitive processes which mistakenly posits svabhāva on the flow of experience".

Further issues :

1. Error of omission :

Philosophy : "From studying his writings, it is clear that Nāgārjuna was conversant with many of the Śrāvaka philosophies and with the Mahāyāna tradition".

--There is no mention of astika schools like Nyaya or Samkya which Nagarjuna clearly considers in the Mulamadhyamakakarika.

2. Misrepresentation :

Two truths : "Hence according to Garfield: Suppose that we take a conventional entity, such as a table. We analyze it to demonstrate its emptiness, finding that there is no table apart from its parts […]. So we conclude that it is empty. But now let us analyze that emptiness […]. What do we find? Nothing at all but the table’s lack of inherent existence. […]. To see the table as empty […] is to see the table as conventional, as dependent.[24]"

-- The above is actually Nagasena's view from Milindapanha and not Nagarjuna's. Nagarjuna's is not questioning the selfness of any object just because it is a composite entity made up of parts and without parts it has no existence. Rather Nagarjuna questions the existence of each (singular) part itself and show that the entity has no svabhaava - that there is no substance without attributes and vice versa and that both exist only in relation to each other.

Even the section on causality is not well written and doesn't clearly bring out the actual argument of the Madhyamika. I can replace it with actual quotes from better explained works. Please let me know if that is ok.

Thanks for your patience.

Rollback

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Hello Gilliam -- Thank you. -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:52, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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No longer orphaned. I created the article Boss (book) and used this jpg in the infobox there. WikiPedant (talk) 08:12, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cogito ergo sum lead para

Thx re your reversion of 1/24 edit to Cogito ergo sum by an unidentified user. As the author of that lead para, I'm prompted by that attempted edit to make the following stylistic change:

From:

A fuller form, dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum ("I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am"),^[a] aptly captures Descartes' intent.

to

A fuller form, penned by Antoine Léonard Thomas in an award-winning 1765 essay in praise of Descartes, aptly captures Descartes’s intent: {{lang|la|dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum}→} ("I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am")^[b].

with changes to the footnote from:

The dubito, often mistakenly attributed to Descartes, was coined by Antoine Léonard Thomas in a 1765 essay in praise of Descartes. (See Other forms.)

to

The dubito is often mistakenly attributed to Descartes. (See Other forms.)

Thoughts? humanengr (talk) 06:44, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello humanengr -- Thank you for your note. Sure, I'm fine with this change. You're right -- it probably is a little better to name Antoine Léonard Thomas in the main text rather than in the note. Personally, I probably wouldn't say "award-winning", since it isn't explained and probably isn't worth a side trip into an explanation. I'm not sure if the change from "Descartes'" to "Descartes's" was intentional, but both forms are correct. -- WikiPedant (talk) 07:27, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree re removing the qualifier. I'm also now leaning toward removing "in a 1765 essay in praise of Descartes" as well. Re "'s", LlywelynII changed that 1-1/2 y ago in the rest of the article to comport with WP MoS. humanengr (talk) 15:59, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And both forms aren't actually correct. There are people who misapply the old treatment of classic names (e.g., Moses') to modern ones but Descartes's book belongs to Descartes and Descartes' book belongs to a group, each member of which is a Descarte. It's fine to note that many→most people would pronounce possessive Descartes the second way and that we should try to reflect speech in our writing, but that isn't actually English grammar and isn't "correct" in any meaningful sense. —

Llywelyn II

10:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Llywelyn -- Unfortunately, the rules of grammar, like those of spelling, are a product of usage, meaning that they are slippery indeed. I agree with the logic of your point (made with the clever and amusing example of the fictitious group, each of whose members is a "Descarte"), but logic and usage, alas, are 2 different things. Even MOS:POSS allows either form of the possessive in articles, while prescribing consistency within an article. Not a hot button item, for me. One of my big grammatical peeves is the now pretty much normalized use of "their" to refer to a single person whose gender is not known (it should be "his or her" or the sentence should be otherwise reworked to avoid "their", damn it!). (And another, although not grammatical matter, is the sloppy transformation in the meaning of "begs the question" to be synonymous with "raises the question". Boy, does that grate on a person with a background in philosophy.) But the world has it ways, and in the long run we are stuck with them. Yours in the faith -- WikiPedant (talk) 19:53, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Guidance

Could you please suggest where to best place this unique public domain video from The Internet Archive? This film appears to have been made by the City of St. Paul circa 1941 about it's police department's duties. I used The Internet Archive's description, which included "Chartoon." I didn't notice that. It does have stop-action animation and still photos. Citizens of St.Paul look at their city's Wikipedia page, so this is a where they can find this unique video, which is not easily found. A ri gi bod (talk) 15:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but it is just a piece of "fluff" propaganda which is out-of-date, uninformative, and visually unappealing. I can't think of any suitable place for it except in the archive. Believe me, after that one, I never want to watch another "chartoon". -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:12, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Smith

Hi Wikipedant -thanks for the heads up. I have provided a reference for the claim, linking to a whole Wiki article on his criminal history - hopes that's enough.

Using a preposition to end a sentence with.

With regard to my Gertrude Stein edit, I could have said "... with something she would approve of.". But fortunately it worked without the "of".

Which reminds me of a story; you've probably heard it, being a pendant, but just in case you haven't:

Winston Churchill had no quarrel with ending a sentence with a preposition. One day a junior editor "corrected" one such sentence of his; you can imagine his reaction. He wrote back: "This is an impertinence up with which I shall not put.".

BMJ-pdx (talk) 22:50, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: If anyone wants to comment on the relative placement of my end-quotes and periods, we could have a long discussion on that.

WP:POINTY?

This edit is problematic [2] because it corrects a minor problem (grammar) by introducing a major problem (a false definition). By all means grammar should be correct, but I'd rather see something be right with poor grammar than wrong with good grammar. Carl Fredrik^talk 10:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @CFCF: You're right. The OED confirms that unintentionality is intrinsic to the meaning of this obscure term (although you wavered a little on this point yourself -- it took even you two edits to fully settle on a meaning). Anyhow, I should have looked it up before editing. Thank you for fixing it. (BTW, even the OED is a bit iffy on whether harmfulness is intrinsic to the meaning. All of the OED's sample usages suggest harmful consequences, but the OED definition still does not stipulate harmfulness.) -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. No

Not every edit has to add information; my edit was to clear up badly-written sentences, including one sentence 56 words long. Why are you protecting what is not written well? - DiogenesNY (talk) 00:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Thank you for managing this disruptive edits on Sanskrit. But if I may advise you shouldn't be engaging these kind of editors (i.e newbies and possible socks) in reverts and counter reverts even though I know you're right. Once you revert 1 to 2 times and warn but they failed to heed just report them direct to WP:ANEW, for better action by administrators. You can see now after reporting him, he is blocked simply, otherwise he could have continued his disruption non stop, whilst you are making needless reverts. Thanks –Ammarpad (talk) 08:23, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Ammarpad: Right, I often do warn and report, but I was in the middle of something else. So I just kept hitting the rollback button, figuring it would attract the attention of another rollbacker or admin who had time to deal with the guy. -- WikiPedant (talk) 23:52, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, no problem –Ammarpad (talk) 02:16, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, why are the supporters of the Iranian regime free to remove the history of other ethnic people who live in Iran? Hasn't someone noticed them? A member named Yamaguchi deleted the "History of the Baloch people" page, and a member named Rosguil deleted "Kuch and Baluch country", who is paying them? May I restore the history of the Baloch people? I myself am a historian by profession ... Habir As (talk) 19:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I need help so that the Persian vandals do not bother me, I will be an old man who will improve the pages so that it will make the reader feel better, if you help, please ... Habir As (talk) 19:20, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

April 20th Dates

Hi! So I just recently edited the April 20th wikipedia article, on the Columbine sub-subsection. Personally, I've been working on updating a page for Dave Sanders and Daniel Rohrborough. I don't think it matters that they don't have a wikipedia page. It really doesn't. Whether they are appropriately listed on another Wikipedia page or not, we should not only be marking Rachel Scott, Cassie Bernall, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold as notable people of the event. All of the 15 students that died (whether they were victims or perpetrators) that day are notable people, they are all heroes and deserve the commemoration. I'm not trying to be rude at all, so sorry if I give off that impression, but I am definitely trying to do what is right here. We need to bring attention to each and every life lost that day because they were all heroic. Not just Rachel and Cassie were important victims. I hope you understand this. -- Genevejuneau (talk) 07:33, 18 December 2017

Sorry, but this is an encyclopedia and the "existing article" test is widely applied to lists. Besides, adding each massacre victim to the date lists opens a bottomless pit. Massacres are an all-too-frequent event in the U.S.A., and setting this precedent invites listing the names of all the 9/11 victims, or all the victims at Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Vegas, and on and on. (Or to give Norway equal opportunity, the 2011 massacre at the youth camp outside of Oslo.) No, it just doesn't work. Respectfully -- WikiPedant (talk) 07:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quotation marks

OK, your edit must stand, but as any copy editor will tell you, Wikipedia MOS is wrong on this and in contradiction of most reputable style manuals (Chicago, AP, MLA). Punctuation, with very rare exceptions, goes inside the quotation marks, even with song titles. (Ref. CMS 5.10) The reason for this is not grammatical or semantic, it was a compositors rule, back when text was written for publication. The fact that Wikipedia will not be printed is a poor justification for laziness and relaxation of standards. Au revoir. SamJohn2013 (talk) 13:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

True, @SamJohn2013, but you cite only American authorities and Wikipedia is not simply a made-in-America product. We Canadians reside in the mushy middle between the US and UK, and we (like Wikipedia) tend to follow the Brits in this matter. So, for example, the University of Oxford Style Guide gives this example sentence at the bottom of p. 16, column 1:

Queen’s ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’, from the album Night at the Opera, reached number one in both 1975 and 1991.

Il faut s'adapter au monde tel qu'il est. -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:48, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are indeed in the mushy middle, which is nowhere. Your citation of the Oxford Style Guide is good as far as it goes, but the justification is incomplete and will not serve this case. If you wish to abide by British English, you cannot pick and choose from whatever style manual you wish. If you claim Oxford Style, then "British practice is normally to enclose quoted matter between single quotation marks, and to use double quotation marks for a quotation within a quotation." (R.M. Ritter. The Oxford Guide to Style. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2002. p.148) You obviously cannot change all the quotation marks in Wikipedia. Therefore it is clear that punctuation outside the marks is an inconsistency and an error in the Wikipedia MOS. According to Wikipedia, when making the distinction between British and American English, one must also consider the existing variety in the article (MOS:ARTCON). Then there is the possibility of strong national ties (MOS:TIES) to the subject. In this case, both of these points favor the American style, after all, the article is about Burl Ives, not Freddie Mercury. We can both agree that the article is technically correct according to Wikipedia, but this is a real flaw that must be addressed. I feel that this matter should be referred to the editorial board for a judgment, because the problem could cause chaos and conflict for copy editors throughout all of Wikipedia.

PS: Having lived and studied in Canada for fifteen years, I have a great appreciation for British English, and use it as the language of choice when I am in doubt. But all too often I have heard "Canadianism" used as an excuse for sloppy writing and careless punctuation. The sad fact is that Canadian English can have no claim to authority for the higher functions of the language. It must look for its authority to the east or to the south. It is not a matter of adapting to the world as it is. A copy editor cannot work both sides of the ocean, using one rule here and another there. That is why I hope that the bosses will declare one or the other of these to be the dominant punctuation system for English Wikipedia.

PSS: I am happy for the opportunity to have a discussion with someone who knows the style manual and cares about punctuation. This is becoming increasingly rare as the printed page dies. God Save the Queen. SamJohn2013 (talk) 01:53, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sources needed for Days of the Year pages

I see you recently accepted this pending change to February 2. I looked for a source for this info in the Battle of Inverlochy and was able to find one and added it to February 2.

You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide.

Please do not accept additions to day of year pages where no direct source has been provided on that page. The burden to provide sources for additions to these pages is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 23:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and added a source to back up your recent addition to February 2. Please try to find sources for additions to these pages as the burden to provide them is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 22:33, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddst1: So, are you planning to add footnotes to every item in every list for every day of the year? If so, looks like you've got your life's work cut out for you. Knock yourself out. -- WikiPedant (talk) 23:45, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not. However the community has decided that these pages require reliable sources. You're expected to do your part if you add content. Instead of being defeatist, put your pedanticism to good use. Toddst1 (talk) 06:34, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So, you're still accepting unsourced additions to pending-changes articles like this. The pending changes were set to protect those articles, and you accepting changes that don't meet the standards is disruptive. Please stop. Toddst1 (talk) 22:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddst1: Right, I previously examined the closed discussion about this. It ended with no consensus (a 12-10 vote). The subsequent modification to Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year, which you keep citing, was written by you, and this page is clearly flagged as an essay that is neither an official policy nor even official guideline. Like most editors, I view the "days of the year" pages as lists linking to existing WP articles (which is why redlinks are not allowed in the "days of the year" pages) and, like lede summaries, they do not require citations. There is no basis in WP policy for your claimed "standards" or your harassment. You, sir, are the disruptive editor here. Now get off of my talk page, and stay off of it. -- WikiPedant (talk) 23:14, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you won't discuss it here, then we can discuss it there. Toddst1 (talk) 00:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Artificial Intelligence

First, I apologize if this isn't the correct place to ask you this question. I'm just curious why you undid the edit that I made yesterday by adding the wolfram language to the AI list of programming languages. Wolfram is in fact a full blown programming language (albeit a proprietary language). If a different citation source is needed, I could definitely provide one, but I saw your comment and was quite confused. The language is quite popular with AI. Floridada (talk) 17:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Floridada: Sorry, this wasn't clear to me from the citation. It looked more like a jazzed-up search engine and I suspected this was promotional information. But, looking a little deeper, I see there is a WP article on Wolfram language and that its usage is pretty well established. Go ahead and put it back. I'll leave it alone. -- WikiPedant (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiPedant: Thanks so much! I appreciate the response and you taking the time to actually look into it. Floridada (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're a pedant?

I'm surprised you would label a pedantic observation a "non-constructive edit",then.12.144.5.2 (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Possessive S

If someone or something's ending with an S and they're referred to in past tense, then it's supposed to be S' not S'S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.140.2 (talk) 23:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 69.112.140.2 -- For the Wikipedia policy on these formations, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Possessives. Wikipedia uses the "s's" structure. -- WikiPedant (talk) 03:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for my incorrect edit. Hope I didn’t cause too many problems

I will be cautious going forward Affinanti3 (talk) 04:25, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clanton v. Canton

The article is about the movie, not the book. I'm watching the film right now, the actors repeatedly say "Canton", not "Clanton". The closed captioning states the same. Thought you'd like to know. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 03:43, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Winkelvi: -- I don't have the film, but watched the trailer on YouTube and I think you're right. The name is used once in the trailer and it sure sounds like "Canton". I wonder if Grisham approved of the change. -- WikiPedant (talk) 04:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Who knows? But it makes sense they would change it for nothing more than the town where it was filmed actually was Canton (up near Jackson) and not the Delta, where Clanton was set in the book. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 04:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Color Adjustment

Hey there! I was wondering what software you use to adjust the color of an image? I'd appreciate the help! Regards -- Braxton C. Womack (talk) 03:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Braxton C. Womack: I have a linux-based system, so I use GIMP (which is only for linux). For Windows, the king for color adjustment and pretty much everything else is PhotoShop, but it's pricey and may not be ideal for someone just starting out with Commons images. To get your feet wet, you might try IrfanView, a free, downloadable product that has been around for many years (and is regularly updated). IrfanView is surprisingly decent at a broad range of functions, including color adjustment. Regards -- WikiPedant (talk) 06:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the recommendations! I will look into it! -- Braxton C. Womack^(talk) 11:41, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Ice-T

~ nice to meet you ~ have you ever had lemon aid ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 06:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

so yo like thumb nails ~mitch~ (talk) you know I once had a thumb nail ~~ but Ice T bit it off ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 06:42, 24 July 2019 (UTC) maybe it was the nail I stepped on ~ I can't remember ~ it was such a long time ago ~ nice to meet you ~mitch~ (talk) 06:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mitchellhobbs: Ha, that's nothing. In '05 he bit my head clean off. But it all worked out -- I've been getting along for years now without it. ;-) -- WikiPedant (talk)

A heads-up

I believe this edit of yours runs counter to our policy and practice. Redlinks are not supposed to be removed, when they could be turned into topics for standalone articles. The character Penny Lane is a topic RS talk about, so the redlink should not be removed.

Our policies are in a constant state of flux. It is one of the weaknesses of wikipedia governance. But, in recent years, redlinks have been included on disambiguation pages. When they are included, there is supposed to be a bluelink to an article where a reader can find the redlink used in context. Geo Swan (talk) 17:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Geo Swan: OK. Redlinks to fictional characters from old movies still don't strike me as a great idea, but if someone puts it back, I'll leave it alone. Thanks for the message. -- WikiPedant (talk) 20:14, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your have recently reverted my edits about Rákosi's life

Dear WikiPendant, You have recently reverted my edits discussing Mátyás Rákosi's last decades in the Soviet Union (Mátyás Rákosi). I have written a few paragraphs on the discussion page (Talk:Mátyás Rákosi) regarding the changes. --Nemkovethetem (talk) 11:20, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please return to discuss the topic.

Edits on "Mind"

Hi, you said you corrected my updates to Mind but the argument you gave for one crucial change is faulty. "Idealist metaphysics is not necessarily monistic; an idealist can believe the world is constituted of multiple minds." Indeed, an idealist can believe that, but it's still a monistic interpretation because all of the constitutive minds are made of mind-stuff - in fact, EVERYTHING is made of mind-stuff according to an idealist. Idealism is the position that the mental is "primary" while physicalism is the position that the physical is. If someone were to argue that two or more "minds" were constituted by different substances than that would be a really weird version of substance dualism or pluralism; note that pluralists have it harder than dualists to make sense of their position and how mental causation occurs. With that, please restore my language in this regard. IanCappelletti (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@IanCappelletti: Sorry, but I disagree. Berkeley, for example, believed that all of our individual minds exist as individual entities (and that there was also yet another mind, God, the supreme being). But all, for Berkeley, were separate beings. The belief that they are all made of "mind-stuff" doesn't imply monism any more than the belief that every particular thing in the world is made of "matter-stuff" (say, atoms) implies monism. Monism is the position that there is only one being, period, and that everything is an aspect of it. Classical Hindu philosophy is genuinely monistic, since it holds that everything really is just one thing, Brahman, and that all the variegated particulars that seem to constitute our world are mere illusions.

There is another, separate, point to be made here, which complicates things a bit more. "Idealism" can name a metaphysical position and/or an epistemological one. You are focussed only on the metaphysical sense. Kantian idealism, on the other hand, is thoroughly epistemological. For him, mind constitutes the experienced (phenomenal) world, but the underlying (noumenal) world of things-in-themselves does exist (even though we cannot experience it). Kant makes no metaphysically monistic claim that all of our individual minds are really aspects of one cosmic mind and he doesn't claim that things-in-themselves are metaphysically "mind-stuff". But he surely is an idealist (for many, he is THE idealist).

I honestly don't think there is any essential connection between idealism and monism. -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How is being separate beings entail that we're made from different stuff? You appear to be very focused on the usage of 'monism' but how can you argue that in the canon of modern philosophical thought that 'monism' isn't linguistically coexistent with 'substance' while this 'being' is not. We can describe all of the relevant positions in terms of substance monism, substance dualism, or substance pluralism - I don't know how to do that with 'being'. For example, Berkeley's is one of those really weird positions where he is espousing substance dualism but without the physical substance; his two substances are ideas and spirits/ minds: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/berkeley/#3.1. My addition was to help situate readers in the larger tradition of idealism versus materialism/ physicalism and to remove that is to do them a disservice.

I'm focused in the entry on the metaphysical because it is a metaphysical entry, i.e. it's topic is what IS mind? It isn't anything to do with first philosophy. IanCappelletti (talk) 16:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wilford Brimley

Why did you undo my revision? I was correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.250.6.7 (talk) 07:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Khans of Sahiwal

I have created a new article, I ask for your verification and approval ... https://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Khans_of_Sahiwal Habir As (talk) 05:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Habir As: Sorry, but I'm not going down this road. It's not my area. -- WikiPedant (talk) 02:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your deletion of my entry to HARD PROBLEM OF CONSCIOUSNESS

Hello TonyClarke and WikiPedant, I’m surprised of the way you worked without let me know why. The below answer to DVdm to your attention: Hello DVdm, what you are saying is not how it is. I did not even know who deleted my entry, I also did not get any critique at any time, and I never changed or deleted the entry of other contributers. So I did NOT start an „edit-war“ as you obviously think. How could I discuss and seek consensus if I even don’t know who the competitor is? THAT‘S UNSCIENTIFIC BEHAVIOUR. I did not receive any arguments. It’s also not correct that the two users Tony Clarke and Wiki Pedant provided sound reasons in their edit summaries why my contributuion was „inappropriate“. It is appropriate and it directly addresses the term „integrated information“ by modifying what the term should cover. It’s an „edit-war“ initiated by competitors in an unfair way. What is correct is that I added my own (preprint-published) view on „integrated information“ but that’s a legitimate and, in my opinion, scientifically important contribution. How then can we solve that problem? Wolfgang Kromer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Kromer (talk • contribs) 10:47, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can you crop image of Lévesque and Pearson?

Hi WikiPedant, I just noticed the nice job you did with the picture of Paul Martin. Thanks for making that article better. I have no techno skills and have no idea how to crop an image, so I thought I'd ask you if you could take a look at an image in the article on René Lévesque - in the section on "Public figure", there's an image of him interviewing Pearson, back when he was with Radio-Canada, but they're way in the background. Is it possible to crop out the cameraman from the foreground and just make it a shot of Pearson and Lévesque? or is the picture too grainy to work with? Just thought I'd ask. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 20:36, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Lévesque interviewing Pearson -- Now, that is an interesting picture. The resolution really is too low to crop it as much as you propose, and frankly I sort of like the story the image tells with the photographer and his old-time equipment included. So I have tightened the framing as much as I think I reasonably can, and have corrected the overexposure of the foreground cameraman and of Pearson's face. Thanks for sharing. Regards -- WikiPedant (talk) 21:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - that looks better! Yes, that's one of those little glimpses of history that make you think it's a small world. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:13, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could I call on your pix skillz again?

Hi WikiPedant, you helped me a few months ago by fixing up the picture of Levesque interviewing Pearson. I've got another picture that I wonder if you could help me with? It's an image of a memorial for the trial of Louis Riel in Regina. There's a plaque on it, but on the picture I have, it's hard to read the plaque. Would you be able to blow it up so it's more legible? (Apologise for bugging you, but I have very few computer skills.) Link to the image: File:Louis Riel memorial, Regina, Saskatchewan.jpg, which I've used in the Trial of Louis Riel article. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:45, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Sure, Glad to take a crack at anything relating to our national history. I created an alternate version for which I adjusted the perspective, tightened the framing, and adjusted the levels, all to improve readability. I uploaded the alternate version at Wikimedia Commons as File:Louis Riel memorial, Regina, Saskatchewan (cropped).jpg. If this isn't what you had in mind, give me a little more guidance and I'll see what I can do. Regards -- WikiPedant (talk) 04:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect! Thanks! Will switch the image on the Trial page. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And again ...

Hi WikiPedant, I've got another request. I'm working on some pre-Confederation stuff, and I've come across a photo that is very dark at regular size, and almost impossible to make out when it's at a thumbnail. Is there any way to lighten it? The photo is File:Jean Chabot.png. It's used in his article at Jean Chabot, and as a thumbnail in the electoral history table in Quebec City (Province of Canada electoral district). (Sorry to keep bugging you, but I have absolutely no skills with photo stuff; all an arcane mystery to me. My tech skills are very low.) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:43, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: -- No problem at all. I'm always looking for images that need a little work, and it's a bonus when they relate to our country. I should be able to get to it within the next day or so. -- WikiPedant (talk) 15:36, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: -- I didn't get too involved, since it's in pretty rough shape. But how's that? -- WikiPedant (talk) 04:59, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! Thanks very much. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:48, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{{subst:Orphaned short|1=File:George_Adamski_1.jpg}} —holly {chat} 17:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I'm not being a pest

Hi, I've got another request. I've just uploaded a map of the Province of Canada, and for some reason it's got a grey bar at the bottom of it, outside the "frame" of the map? Can that be fixed? File:Province of Canada.JamesWyld.ca1842.jpg (And, if you would rather just refer me on to some other Wiki project that does this kind of photo-fixing, please do so; I don't want to be a pest!) Always appreciate your help. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:01, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, one of the editors who is familiar with Wiki Commons is going to take a look at it for me. Sorry to bother you. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 10:46, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: -- Sarge, I apologize for the delay in dealing with your request. I was away from my computer for a few days. Anyhow, I have now uploaded the full-resolution version of this map from The Huntington Digital Library and removed the bar from the margin. Please believe that I welcome these opportunities to work with you on Canadian-themed images and please do not be reluctant to make future requests.

PS -- To download a full-resolution image from The Huntington Digital Library, click on the box for "downloads" in the top right corner (just to the right of the word "Save"), then select "Full Resolution". The file size will be large, but it is the real deal that Wikimedia Commons needs. The file will be downloaded to your "Downloads" folder and can be copied from there to any location you want.

Excellent! Thanks very much. I somehow missed this message a few days ago. Looks great. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:14, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Louis-Hippolyte LaFontaine

Hi WikiPedant, Thanks for the reassurance that you're okay with my requests for help. I really appreciate it. I've got another one: a young version of Louis-Hippolyte LaFontaine! Most of the ones in his category on Wikimedia Commons are towards the end of his career, grey-haired. I recently found a younger version at the BANQ and uploaded it, but it could do with a bit of a cropping: File:Louis-Hippolyte LaFontaine vers 1860.jpg . It's a formal visiting card type, with a lot of white space. Also has "Juge Lafontaine" written in white on his shoulder, which could possibly be cropped a bit? (I've been looking for a younger shot of him for a while, and just today came across this one in Les Réformistes by Éric Bédard, with cite to the BANQ. Their entry says "vers 1860", so I assume that's public domain. I think it's actually earlier than 1860, based on his hair colour, and then was re-issued when he was appointed a judge, but that's just my speculation.) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 23:02, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Sarge, I uploaded a cropped, adjusted version as File:Louis-Hippolyte LaFontaine vers 1860 (cropped).jpg. I cropped it about as much as the resolution would reasonably permit, IMO. I also touched out the "Juge" lettering. I like my adjustment to the levels (making the image just a bit brighter), but, if you don't approve, feel free to revert it back 1 version. Any time you have something you'd like me to take a crack at, just let me know. As always -- WikiPedant (talk) 06:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PS -- There is also a very sharp rendering of young LaFontaine in this image: File:Boucherville (Québec)-Affiche historique devant la maison Louis-H.-Lafontaine, près de la rue Marie-Victorin.jpg. It would be pretty easy to crop him cleanly out of that poster, touching out the overlapping red box. It is, however, an artistic rendering, not a photo, and I'm not sure whether it is out of copyright. -- WikiPedant (talk) 07:07, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That looks great. The « Young Napoleon ». (Apparently he once visited the Invalides as a young man and French veterans were convinced he was some relative of the Emperor.). I’m going to use it in some bios I’m working on for the Province of Canada period. I came across that Boucherville one, but I also worried about copyright. I think it’s derived from a modern painting that was commissioned by the Ontario gov’t - reproduced in the Canadian Encyclopedia article on « by permission » Artist was named MacCormack. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/sir-louis-hippolyte-lafontaine

thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In case I didn’t make it clear in the above stream of early-morning consciousness, I really appreciate your help! I have very low tech skills and am always amazed at how easily you improve images. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Updated the article I'm working on with the new image: Étienne Parent, with credit to you in the edit summary. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Thank you, Sarge. Ha! He really does look like Napoleon (and maybe even a little bit like Joaquin Phoenix). After you mentioned it, I read the Canadian Encyclopedia article on him. Canada really owes a debt to good old Mel Hurtig! (I still have my 1988 hardcopy second edition, now rendered semi-obsolete by the free web version. Wikipedia isn't the only good free encyclopedia out there.) As for technical skills, I think you have sophisticated technical skills for article creation and enviable stamina. Your draft articles are well-written and superbly detailed and illustrated. In my old age, I no longer have the patience or the inclination to contribute substantively to articles, let alone create new ones. Editing individual photos makes for less taxing bite-sized little projects. I'm a little jealous. -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, isn't that a nice message to wake up to! Thanks very much! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:59, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, WikiPedant!

Happy New Year!

WikiPedant,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia (especially all the image cropping!)
Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 23:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New article: Double Shuffle

Hi WikiPedant, thought you’d be interested. I uploaded a new article yesterday: Double Shuffle (Canadian political episode). Still needs some citation work, but I wanted it out of me “Draft” folder. Comments / questions welcome! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Hello Sarge. It's a lovely article and a worthy contribution to Canadiana. I took the liberty of making one small change -- I replaced the image of Alexander Galt with a cropped, cleaned-up version. Great work! -- WikiPedant (talk) 00:12, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for doing that! And for your kind words. I've been working on it, off and on, since July. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A beer, you deserve it

Wiki,

Can you do your magic on this one. He is in the Netflix current Nr.1 Griselda (miniseries). Many thanks if you can. File:Alberto Guerra in 2019 film En las buenas y en las malas.jpg

James Kevin McMahon (talk) 00:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@James Kevin McMahon: Sure, done now. Glad to have had a shot at it. Thanks for pointing it out. I've been meaning to drop you a note expressing appreciation for the nice (and, for me, very handy) collection of portraits on your Commons user page. Usually I forage around at random looking for suitable images to work on, but you did a lot of legwork for me and I am in your debt. When all the images are arranged side-by-side, as a gallery of thumbnails, it is very easy to eyeball them and spot pics that are under- or over-exposed or otherwise in need of a little attention. Thanks for your dedication to making the encyclopedia richer. A picture really is worth a thousand words. Best regards -- WikiPedant (talk) 04:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Wiki, I do believe you are the very first person to thank me for my image contributions, much appreciated, it will spur me on to find more. Normally I just get snipers trying to find a reason to delete them, yes, I have lost a few like that, Andrea Bang, was the biggest loss, although not enough to stop me just yet. It is very heartening to find a fellow Wikipedia contributor with similar thinking to me, as in "Lets make this great thing greater, not just delete stuff put tags everywhere". I can see this lasting like writing on stone, well hopefully anyway, once we have departed, our contributions will live on for centuries, is my thinking. James Kevin McMahon (talk) 02:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@James Kevin McMahon: Oh, I too have lost a few good ones to the hell-bent enforcers and wiki-lawyers. ("Snipers" is a good word for some of them.) There's nothing to do but shrug it off and plow on. There are plenty of people here who believe in this mega-project and can distinguish what matters from what doesn't, even if they aren't all disposed to lavish praise on their fellow contributors. I'm confident that the project will prevail and that the good dudes will abide. Hang in and so will I . . . WikiPedant (talk) 04:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:ADA Rafael Barba SVU.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:ADA Rafael Barba SVU.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very small old image

Hi WikiPedant, I've come across another old image that is sort of odd, and wonder if there's anything you can do with it? It's the image of Louis-Michel Viger, found here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Louis-Michel_Viger.png I've added it to the infobox for him, but it's very small. Is there a way to increase the size, either in the file itself, or in the infobox display? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Hello Sarge -- The image was a little bigger than it looked. It just had gigantic transparent borders that were taking up a lot of the display space. I removed the borders, did a little clean-up, and uploaded the result as an extracted file. It displays a lot better now. Thanks for calling it out. As ever -- WikiPedant (talk) 06:59, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! Looks great. Thanks so much. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 07:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you take out a head shot?

This gentleman looks like he's been shot right in the forehead (although he looks remarkably unharmed :) ) Anything you can do with it? File:Marc Pascal de Sales Laterrière.png -- Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Done, Sarge, with a little extra clean-up. No large-bore wounds now. You're right though; he clearly was being a very good sport about it. -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That looks much better! I see you lightened it as well. I agree, sepia looks good for an old photo. But here's a weird thing; I can't get the new version to display. I use them for the articles on each riding; he was mp for the Saguenay riding, and even though I've changed it out, it still shows the old version. Any idea why? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:40, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Sarge, the problem is that photos and lots of other recent stuff are kept in temporary files on your computer, so that they will load faster when you go back to them. This collection of temporary files is called cache. You can force your computer to clear its cache (which is actually a good thing to do regularly, like housecleaning), and then the latest version of everything will reload from the actual web site. The procedure for clearing cache varies a bit depending on which web browser you use. This link provides a good summary of what to do: https://its.uiowa.edu/support/article/719. I routinely use the quick "Ctrl + Shift + Delete" procedure to clear all my cache at the end of every session, and it is a *very* good idea after doing any online banking. -- WikiPedant (talk) 02:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah-ha! That i know how to do, but didn't know why. The CRA recommends that after using their on-line tools, so I have done it on Chrome, but didn't know that was to clear the cache. Have done it, and the touched up picture comes up now. Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work on Papineau

Looks good! I use that one a lot for articles in the 1830s-early 1840s. Clearer and better. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updated constitution article

Taking a bit of a break from 1840s in Canada, and recently expanded this article: Preamble to the Constitution Act, 1867. Thought you might be interested. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 05:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: A lovely article, Sarge! It reads very smoothly, like the storyline that it is. I have a heightened appreciation of the Preamble now. I took the liberty of adding a few dates to improve the sense of the chronology of events, and I cleaned up one image (a particularly challenging one -- I'm not 100% satisfied, but this one had real limitations). I admire your work. -- WikiPedant (talk) 06:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! Fauteux looks much better. When I read your comment I was hoping that was the one you fixed. Those early colour photos must be challenging because of the fading. Thanks for your help, and kind words. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work on de Sallaberry!

Improved version looks good! Thanks for your usual care and attention in improving the images for Canadian articles.

I just posted a new article, on a JCPC case, which you might like. Subject matter is a bit dry ("Escheat? What's an escheat?"), but the underlying human nature story is an interesting side-glimpse of "Toronto the Not-Quite-So-Good" in the Victorian age: Attorney General of Ontario v Mercer. Now I'll never be able to go by Bay & Wellington without thinking of it, in my infrequent trips to T.O.

Hey, could you take a look at this picture? File:20130703 16 Canadian Pacific Rwy. painting, Whyte Museum (12313711433).jpg

It looks like someone took it in the Whyte Museum, but it's at an angle and the frame is partly showing. I like it because it's a colour painting, which stands out better than B&W photos of trains from that era. (I use it in the article on Charles Dewey Day, who was one of the members of the Royal Commission which investigated the Pacific Scandal).

Hope all's well, Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Sarge, you don't miss much when it comes to what's happening with Canadian images. The Mercer article is a fascinating read. The poor chump, Mercer Jr. And there sure aren't any cottages at Bay and Wellington anymore!

I'll suggest 2 small copyediting changes for your consideration: (1) I'd put the date of the case in the lead sentence as well as in the infobox; (2) I'd rework the not-so-encyclopedic sentence characterizing Bridget O'Reilly to include in the body of the text an explicit attribution of her unsavory qualities, saying something like "who was described by Mercer's biographer, Frederick Armstrong, as 'violent-tempered, illiterate, and thieving'". (For me, footnoting the source at the end of the whole paragraph is not precise enough when it comes to the ascription of such damning adjectives.)

That's a very handsome painting of the CPR train. The photo of it just needed a little help. I overlooked it when I was on the Dewey Day page a while back. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm always on the lookout for prospects to edit. All is indeed well here, and I hope it is the same for you. -- WikiPedant (talk) 05:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent points! Both changes made. No cottages any more! The Bay Street bankers and lawyers have attended to that. CPR engine looks much better; not skewed. Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While checking the quote about O'Reilly from the DCB, I clicked on some of the links to the other bios, and realised I had not told the full tale! Added a new paragraph about the probate proceedings. T.O. was a small town back then. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:David Threlfall in character 2013.jpg

	File:David Threlfall in character 2013.jpg
	David Threlfall c.2017 changed to 2013 (Amanda Hart holds a 2013 calendar in same scene). Wiki, any chance you can change the title? my mistake. many thanks James Kevin McMahon (talk) 16:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@James Kevin McMahon: Hello James -- All fixed now, including image captions in non-English Wikipedias. Thanks for the info. -- WikiPedant (talk) 22:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most grateful indeed. In future, i will avoid adding a date to the title if I am unsure of the year. Many thanks. James Kevin McMahon (talk) 22:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@James Kevin McMahon: James, the dates you include in file names have been very helpful, and you've motivated me and to start adding dates to the names of other files I work on. The best date is in the camera metadata, if present at the bottom of the image's Commons page. If only an approximate date is known, there is still the option of including it in the file name with "circa" in front of it. -- WikiPedant (talk) 06:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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