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You made me chuckle

Hi Paul. I was just looking at which pages link to Women's Equality Party, and I discovered your edit summaries at 2015 in British television. I love the UKIP one especially. There's not enough humour on here, if you ask me. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:15, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I have to agree. A little humour now and then always makes the world a better place. This is Paul (talk) 22:29, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Forgot to say yesterday, great work on the article. It's looking really good, and I've just added it to my watchlist. This is Paul (talk) 22:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

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I'm happy to report that I now have my computer back, so my unexpected wikibreak is over. The problem was apparently something to do with Patch Tuesday and an incomplete file downloaded during that process. It took a trip back to the shop I bought the thing from to remedy the problem, although I had to leave it with them for a few days to run a diagnostic test. I managed to post the above template last Friday using my mobile, but have been unable to check to see if it was done correctly until just now. Anyway, it's good to be back. This is Paul (talk) 16:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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Wedding of Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland, and Sofia Hellqvist.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:57, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks good so far. I've formatted a couple of the dates so they're all the same. This is Paul (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Ellie Goulding

Hi, the reference for the Ellie Goulding Burial edit you removed is here: http://pitchfork.com/news/54483-echo-chamber-ellie-goulding-says-she-and-burial-are-friends-he-kind-of-looks-over-me/

Her comments seem reliable, they appeared in plenty of other places too:

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http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/24/ellie-goulding-on-burial-this-sounds-super-weird-but-he-kind-of-looks-over-me/

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Can anyone tell me why the top icons on my user page are not appearing in the order I want them? I wanted them to appear in ascending order of importance (e.g., DYK/GA/FA), but they seem to be appearing any old how? Thanks in advance. This is Paul (talk) 15:05, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

The icon_nr= parameter is no longer supported. You can use the id= parameter instead; at a cursory glance the icons will be sorted in reverse alphabetical order. Huon (talk) 15:46, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
That's great, it seems to be laid out more how I wanted it to look now. Thanks for your help, and cheers, This is Paul (talk) 16:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Johnny Mercer

Was just giving the article a read. It's just about identical with what's at Project Gutenberg and the World Heritage Encyclopedia. At this point, I don't know who borrowed from who. World Heritage Encyclopedia has ref numbers exactly where we do. Before we try giving this a go, I'm going to ask Moonriddengirl's advice to see if she can unravel what appears to be a tangle. Also think I need to get a copy of the Gene Lees book Portrait of Johnny.

Re: Joan Robinson Hill, am wondering if trying another PR for them both would help. We were advised to separate them and did so, but it seems like we were both left hanging after we did that. Maybe some new eyes would be able to tell us if we should combine them again or what. I agree with you that it has GA potential-know both of us did everything right when putting this together. We hope (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

OK-the Johnny Mercer tangle is fixed! :) We hope (talk) 21:03, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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I was thinking of nominating the article Clark Olofsson for DYK. However the article was redirected in 2013, when it was a badly made article. I created it without prior knowledge of the previous article. Do you think that will put an end to a DYK or can I nominate it still as it is a completely new article from a redirect? Thanks :)--BabbaQ (talk) 09:51, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I would have thought it would be ok, but it might be worth asking someone at WP:HELPDESK just to be sure. This is Paul (talk) 12:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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I've found an article that appears to read more like a CV or resume. Could someone tell me what is the appropriate template? Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 21:46, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

You could try to actually fix the article. If you prefer drive-by tagging, I'd say {{BLP sources}} or {{like resume}} may be appropriate. Huon (talk) 22:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't go in for drive-by tagging as a rule, but I'm not exactly familiar with her either. I'll tag it for now and perhaps take a look when I've a few minutes to read up on her. Thanks again, This is Paul (talk) 22:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Ah yes, I meant to do that after I got your email. Thanks for the reminder, I'll add my name to the list. This is Paul (talk) 16:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello Paul

Paul

I see you have been engaged with regard to use of Twitter. I too am staunchly against its use as a reference on Wikipedia; however, in this case the Tweet provided is by a Herald-at-Arms of the College of Arms, and should the matter wish to be pursued I am sure that the heraldic authorities will side with York Herald. Why is such a stupid dispute even taking place? M Mabelina (talk) 23:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Please elaborate in detail why the heraldic authorities of the UK are wrong on this matter before considering further reversions to my edits. Many thanks M Mabelina (talk) 23:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I doubt there would be a problem if you could find a better source. It doesn't matter who the tweet is from, the use of twitter isn't allowed here. David Cameron has his own official twitter account, as do numerous others, but their use as a source is strongly discouraged. This is Paul (talk) 23:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
His arms were blazoned correctly on Wiki before I got involved & now there is antagonism - so I can't help thinking that Brian's objections aren't based on reason but for some other reason?
Either way, I am not prepared to be blocked for pointing out the truth - however I would very much like to know why you are so much against the facts being represented? Please explain. M Mabelina (talk) 23:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to know why I'm suddenly being bludgeoned. I'll have a massive headache if it continues. Seriously though, take a look at WP:TWITTER. While self-published sources can be used, when they concern a third party it's best to avoid them. Surely you can locate a better source. if you can't then one could suspect an element of doubt as to the accuracy of this information. Also you've just exceeded our three-revert rule so if you really don't want to be blocked then you need to stop undoing people's reverts. This is Paul (talk) 23:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
My edit just now was blocked - so in brief - if Wiki would like to take up the matter legally let me know - it is supported by the College of Arms. M Mabelina (talk) 23:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
My dear Paul - I note that you have sided with Brianann - I shan't revert your mistake immediately but wait for back up from more informed sources. Meantime Twitter is by no means a reliable source but when faced with unreasoned objections to Cameron's patrilineal ancestry why not use the only tools available via internet? The Tweet by York Herald states: Arms of Sir Ewen Cameron, ancestor of the Prime Minister, which were granted in Scotland in 1905. Peter O'Donoghue@YorkHerald www.college-of-arms.gov.uk - amazing such a diatribe can result in this - could I suggest Wiki dedicates someone to look into the laws of heraldry and/or subscribe to Burke's Peerage & Baronetage a/o believe me? Thank you M Mabelina (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
PS. please comment on my Talk Page
Hi Paul - it seems like I'm a sucker for punishment - but honestly how many times have I asked Brianann to explain the reasons behind his reverts of my reversions? I have taken care, in this recent exchange, to set down my reasoning and thought process yet from Brianann all I get on my Talk Page is notice of potentially being blocked - is this how Wiki justice works, i.e. believe to be in the right (yes - in this case) put up with a load of abuse about me on his Talk Page - get no answer - request support on my Talk Page only for the perpetrator to ambush my Talk page with A request to the Administrators. Not sure this looks like justice to me? Anyway if this results in a penalty then conclusions can be drawn.... Please somebody reply with a balanced perspective. Many thanks M Mabelina (talk) 00:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
If this particular Sir Ewen Cameron is indeed David Cameron's ancestor then one might expect to find reference to it in something like a biography. After all, Cameron's ancestry is well documented. If there is no other reference to it then it's only natural that it would be questioned. The fact you appear unwilling to find anything else but a passing reference on twitter, then to attack those who ask you not to use it because it is regarded as an unencyclopedic source, would seem to suggest that you have no wish to be constructive in your editing. But none of this really matters now. Enjoy your block, and perhaps use it to consider how you can be less disruptive in future. This is Paul (talk) 15:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: Johnny Mercer-part 2

Paul, I don't know if you're signed up for Questia or not but if not, I think it would be of help in this. Questia has both volumes of the Gene Lees books Singers and the Song. There's a very interesting section about Johnny Mercer in them and also more information re: Paul Weston which would be helpful for his article too. The Mercer segment talks about "roses in the morning"-something Mercer did to apologize after he'd drank too much and was just impossible to deal with. It places Jo as telling him, "John, please. I don't want any of your roses in the morning." at a Capitol Records Christmas party. He had been drinking too much and was starting to give Jo a hard time; after she told him this, Mercer stopped arguing with her. We hope (talk) 18:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Hello Paul.

What are your views on "CHIM"?

Thanks.Fletcherbrian (talk) 10:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Fletcherbrian:, you'll have to remind me what that is. This is Paul (talk) 17:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Paul

CHIM relates to CHeryl and kIMberley's friendship.

Click here for a typical page on the topic, of which there are myriads.

What do you think?

Kind regards

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Back after a hiatus

Well I'm back following a bit of an unscheduled break, the reasons for which you can read about below. If you left me a message here or anywhere else during my absence then please bear with me. I will reply in the next couple of days, but as it's quite late now here in the UK I'm not planning to do a lot tonight other than check back in and make a few edits. Now for that explanation.

For some reason my internet connection is incredibly slow. Pages have sometimes been taking several minutes to load, so posting anything here turned into a complete pain in the proverbial. Also it took me three hours to download the latest version of LibreOffice one night last weekend, so I've no idea what's going on. On top of that I kept losing my internet connection, something I suspect might have a lot to do with some recent roadworks that have been happening near me. Things have marginally improved this weekend, with the problems only occurring whenever I start up my browser, and they speed up to an acceptable rate after a few minutes.

Now all I have to do is catch up with everything that's not been updated in the last couple of weeks, mostly 2015 in British television, 2015 in Irish television and 2015 in British radio, which I guess means reading a lot of MediaGuardian stuff. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. This is Paul (talk) 23:05, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Take a look

at Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominations I have nominated the article Christopher Wilder for possible TAFI help.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Did you have any luck with it? This is Paul (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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Forlornehope (talk) 08:57, 23 August 2015 (UTC) Disclosure - I am the late Sarah Cullen's brother and made the comment about her editing the London University student paper Sennett. I think that would have been the academic year 1970-71 for which she had a sabbatical. I'm not sure how that would be referenced after all this time. Sorry it has taken me so much time to get round to responding.

Probably a copy of the newspaper from the time she was its editor would be ok. I've just been looking online but the coverage of anything before the turn of the millennium can be a bit patchy. There seem to be PDFs of a few copies from earlier though, so perhaps some of the editions from that time will become available as well. Also found this Guardian article from 2014 that references Sennet. This is Paul (talk) 12:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering if somebody could replace a source for me on the description page of File:2014_Scottish_Labour_Leadership_Election_Westminster_Nominations.svg as I have difficulty accessing files of this type because of the software I use. This source has become a deadlink, but I've found this one which contains the same information. Your help would be much appreciated as the file is currently being used in an article that is an FAC candidate. Thanks in advance, This is Paul (talk) 18:40, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Done :) Samuel Tarling (talk) 18:47, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Great, thanks again. This is Paul (talk) 19:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Wayback machine My friend, here's a Wayback Machine copy of the original in case you might need it. :-) We hope (talk) 19:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
That's fantastic, thanks for finding it. This is Paul (talk) 20:19, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

And you're always welcome! Just wish I would have had the same luck at Wayback Machine the other day looking for a "lost" PDF for Bentworth. Wayback has 90 PDFs archived from the site in question, but none of them were the one we needed. :-) We hope (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Very useful website, I've just spent the last half an hour or so having a look. This is Paul (talk) 22:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
This is where I archive links now because you don't need to register or use an e-mail address to do that. If you enter a URL that won't allow robots, it will tell you. When I find a dead link, Wayback is the first place I try to find a replacement. The Internet Archive is also helpful-especially for old copies of books. We hope (talk) 22:08, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
I must remember to start using it myself to save a few things as it's just got me out of having to do a major rewrite. Last night I found a couple of the Dundee Courier articles had turned into dead links so I had a look on the Wayback Machine and managed to locate saved copies of them all. I've just been swapping them so it's all working again now. This is Paul (talk) 13:03, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
One of the not so nice things re: old/older books and publications not produced in the US is that those not living in the US aren't able to have full view of them either at Google Books or HathiTrust. Whenever possible and sources are needed that everyone can view, I always check the Internet Archive to see if they have a copy of the journal or book to refer to. If Internet Archive doesn't have a copy, many times I'll copy the material to OneDrive. It's a shame because there are so many British journals and books available on both Google Books and HathiTrust, but those in the UK aren't allowed full view of them. Have said it would be fair to permit full viewing but not allow copying as this is where the potential issue lies--not in the reading of the material. We hope (talk) 13:14, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I agree, it's really frustrating sometimes when you're reading something and you get to a page that hasn't been included. Usually it's the information you want as well. This is Paul (talk) 16:39, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Roberta Linn

Can you find anything more on her?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:03, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

At a quick glance she has an autobiography that could be useful. Not sure if it's available in the UK though. This is Paul (talk) 18:15, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Cheryl and Kimberley

@Fletcherbrian:, my apologies for forgetting to reply to this. The information seems a bit gossipy for an encyclopedia, and I'm not really sure where it would fit into either article. All you can say about it is that they're good buddies, but perhaps as they were in a group together it wouldn't be unexpected. This is Paul (talk) 19:16, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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Switched a ref in Jo's article

Hi Paul,

What with the Sinatra project, I ran into this Sessions with Sinatra: Frank Sinatra and the Art of Recording The author interviewed Paul and he spoke about Underneath the Overpass ,what rubbish it was, and about how Miller was overriding his decisions in California. The link will also be good for Paul's article. :-) We'll be using that in the Sinatra article too because it was also Miller who thought that Mama Will Bark was sure to be a hit. :-D We hope (talk) 21:41, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Sometimes what you can get re: refs at a given time depends on what Google Book pages you're allowed to read. I like it because it's Paul discussing what happened at the time and this wasn't something that happened with just one artist. It happened to Jo, to Rosemary Clooney with "Come On-a My House" and Sinatra. The only one of these three that did anything was "Come On-a My House". Not sure which one you'll be able to start on first-Johnny Mercer or Sinatra-the books you get your hands on first will tell the tale. :-) We hope (talk) 23:33, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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