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Thanks for correcting

Thanks for correcting my last edit on local elections page, I wrote on wrong article :) --Kreshnik Prizreni (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Taiwanese municipal elections

Hello. You added a merger tag to this article (which I support), but pointed readers to an already-closed discussion. You need to start a new one if you want to add the tag. Also, you need to tag the other article too. Cheers, Number 5 7 16:01, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding it. Sladnick (talk) 19:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I think there was some confusion – I didn't do anything, I was just letting you know that you didn't start a merge discussion. As a result, the merge tag was removed by another editor. You actually need to start a discussion on the talk page when adding these tags.

Separately, with regards to templates like {{Rodriguan elections}} and {{South Caribbean Coast Autonomous Region elections}}, these are likely to end up being deleted as none of the articles currently exist. You shouldn't really create these templates until there is at least one article in the series (so your North Kosovo one is fine). Cheers, Number 5 7 11:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On Taiwan, I realized my confusion later - I saw something that somehow made me think you had made the talk page. For the templates, I was making them (and expanding the electoral calendars) with plans to go back back later and fill in missing articles. How long will they last as is? I can make one article for each for now. Sladnick (talk) 12:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It depends how quickly they are found by an editor who wants to delete them, so no telling really. Cheers, Number 5 7 12:35, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moving categories

In re the recent move of Category:Members of the Constitutional Assembly of Mexico City to Category:Members of the Constituent Assembly of Mexico City, I wanted to helpfully point out a facility that would have made the process easier. In cases like this, where the category relates to an article whose title has changed and in certain other circumstances, you can request renaming of the category under a speedy criterion at WP:CFDS. That way, all of the members of the category are updated by bot when the name change is approved. Hopefully this is useful to you in the future! Raymie (t • c) 18:06, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you, that is very helpful for future reference. I presume uses of the term in other articles still need to be changed manually though? Sladnick (talk) 03:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cypriot elections

Hello Sladnick. Re this, where did you find the additional parliamentary election years? Cheers, Number 5 7 12:18, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] on the second page Sladnick (talk) 12:22, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thanks! You may be interested in this page, where I and another editor discussed whether templates were complete or not. Number 5 7 12:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure -- I'll check it out in a couple days after I finish updating the 2016 electoral calendars. Sladnick (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks a lot for your great work on local elections pages and templates!--Aréat (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the encouragement. Sladnick (talk) 01:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Council of Paris

On the Council of Paris article, I see this fact:

"From 10 July 1964 until Lyon Metropolis attained the same status in January 2015,[3] Paris was the only territorial collectivity in France to be, at one time, a commune and a département."

The thing is, though, that Lyon Metropolis is not a commune. In fact, it is composed of 59 individual communes. Métropoles in France a not communes themselves, from my understanding; the individual communes still retain their status. They are a type of intercommunality. So Paris is still the only territorial collectivity that literally functions as both a (single) commune and a department. Lyon Metropolis doesn't even need to be mentioned, then. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:43, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for catching my mistake. I was just updating because I noticed that a lot of French administrative info has not been updated following post-2014 reforms, but I do not fully understand it all myself. Sladnick (talk) 13:03, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well then please feel free to change the page to say that Paris is the only territorial collectivity that functions as both a commune and department. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:37, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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	Just wanted to say thanks for your tireless work on updating election templates with local election details. I can't think of anyone who has done so much work on them as you have! Number 5 7 19:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Japanese gubernatorial elections

This template uses {{ill}} extensively. If you don't use the |display= parameter, ill calls at least one expensive parser function if there is no English-language link. The limit is 500. This template alone was already at 511, which means any page that uses it will also be "over the limit."

I took the liberty of adding |display=y to each ill call. This brought the expensive parser function call number to zero, and it has the nice side effect of always showing the Japanese link even if the English link exists. Actually, that's backwards, the primary purpose of that parameter is to show the non-English link even if the English link exists, the lack of calling an expensive parser function is the nice side effect.

I also did a test revision to demonstrate the dual-linking. As you can see, the 2019 elections for Aichi and Fukui have both the English and Japanese versions linked. Consider expanding this to all of the pages where both the English and Japanese encyclopedias have articles. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Davidwr: thank you for doing all this. I think your suggestion of having the Japanese ill, even when there is an English page, could make sense, especially since some of the existing English articles on these elections are rudimentary and for some reason do not always have the link to the Japanese page in the article. My only hesitation is that this is already a non-standard form of election template (both for its size and the large number of ill). I might complete it as is (with the display|y) and see what feedback there is after adding it to some pages/other templates before making that change. Sladnick (talk) 08:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You do bring up a good point about being non-standard. I'm not paying attention to the customs and standards specific to this type of election template. I only noticed because I monitor the "comings and goings" of some of the categories listed at Special:TrackingCategories including Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. I would suggest discussing it on an election-related WikiProject with an announcement of the discussion on the talk pages of other affected WikiProjects and the talk pages of templates and articles that are likely to be affected by the proposed change.

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@Sladnick: Uttarakhand has always had separate elections for Panchayats and Municipalities. Municipal elections were held in 2003, 2008, 2013, 2018 and 2019 (Roorkee and Bajpur). Panchayat elections were held in 2003, 2005 (Haridwar district), 2008, 2010 (Haridwar district), 2014, 2015 (Haridwar district) and 2019. The separate elections of Municipalities and Panchayats should be named as such to avoid ambiguity. In case where municipal and panchayat elections were held same year it can be named "Uttarakhand local elections" otherwise "Uttarakhand municipal elections" and "Uttarakhand panchayat elections" should be used.

Therefore. Elections in 2003, 2008 and 2019 should be named "Uttarakhand local elections". Rest of all should be specific about "municipal" or "panchayat" as such. If I accidentally moved some pages of the election years where "local elections" should be used, kindly revert my edits. Thanks. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 12:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hemant Dabral: Many countries have multiple elected local offices. But the standard practice for all countries on Wikipedia is that the default titles for these articles is just "local elections". I don't see any need to make an exception here. There are already separate rows for panchayat & municipal on the templates to clear up any such ambiguity. Sladnick (talk) 12:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sladnick:, Articles of "panchayat elections" and "Municipal elections" of some of the states already exist, and if they are held separately in separate year they should be titled as "Panchayat elections" or "Municipal elections" since they both have different electoral system and different number of elected office. For example panchayat elections are three tier elections with 10 elected offices of which 4 are elected directly and 6 are elected indirectly, where municipal elections are one tier elections where two offices are elected directly and one office is elected indirectly.

— Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 13:11, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know there are different election system. I was the one who pushed for separate rows on the templates for municipal vs panchayat; in most countries not even this exception is recognized on the templates. The separately-titled articles you mentioned above exist only in cases where someone already wrote an article which covers only half of the elections that took place in a given year. In those cases a compromise must be made. But in general we need common standards to get the local Indian elections in order. They have been a mess of different naming practices, which makes them harder for other uses to find and link to different articles. As much as possible, we must put these articles into order, by using the name standard naming practices for the articles which are used for all other countries. This will only help to expand Wikipedia's coverage of Indian elections in the future. Sladnick (talk) 13:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hemant Dabral: On the Roorkee, Bajpur and Haridwar elections: these do not belong on the election templates. Only elections which cover the entire state, or at least a large part of the state, are included. Exceptions may be made only for very large cities. Again, this is the standard followed for the election templates for all countries. Sladnick (talk) 12:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't these elections which have their own articles belong to the election template? What's the rationale behind it?. These are not by-elections but full term elections held in one or two year gap with rest of Uttarakhand elections.

Because the templates are for state elections, not every little local election that happens in the state. When there is state-wide coordination to hold local-level elections then the articles are included, but not just when one small area holds an election. This is the standard which has existed since 2007 or before. The rationale is because the templates were made to list major election cycles. Sladnick (talk) 13:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hemant Dabral: These 2008 and 2019 Uttarakhand municipal elections you just moved were examples of pages which should not have been moved, because there were also panchayat elections those years but the existing articles do not discuss the panchayats. Of course, the best solution would be to expand on these articles to add the information about the panchayats; the second-best option would be to split the article, as before. I want to thank you for your efforts to improve these articles on Indian state elections. I am only trying to do the same. Sladnick (talk) 13:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So what do you propose? Expansion of articles to include Panchayat elections or creating a separate election for Panchayats elections (in years where only panchayat elections were held)? I'll go with your choice. Future local election articles must follow the same convention we set here today. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 13:46, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely the best option is to expand the articles to include the panchayat elections. If you know where to find detailed information on those elections, I can use it to write some articles too. Sladnick (talk) 13:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here, Uttarakhand State Election Commission website and Election results website — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 15:04, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Sladnick (talk) 00:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hemant Dabral: Unfortunately there is no easy way for me to translate much of the Uttarakhand information, which is in photo-copied documents online. Do you think you will eventually be able to update the 2008 Uttarakhand local elections and 2019 Uttarakhand local elections pages to add some basic info on the panchayat polls? I was able to update the 2011 Tamil Nadu local elections article in this way. Sladnick (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sladnick: Sure, I'll try to update. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 16:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Canadian federal elections

Hi Sladnick,

I wanted to thank you for your great work on the map for the page 2021 national electoral calendar. I'm not sure if you maintain the map or not, but Prime Minister Trudeau announced a snap federal election, slated for September of this year, and so I just wanted to raise that to your intention, in case you continue to update the map on the page.

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Sorry but I am working full time to support the revolution in Myanmar now, so I do not have the time to work on Wikipedia, although I wish I did. Sladnick (talk) 23:18, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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