User talk:Oywl

Bahren Shaari

Since it's in draft space, what you should do is submit it through the WP:AFC process so that it can be reviewed — place {{subst:submit}} at the bottom of the page, and that will place it in the AFC queue. I see that has actual sources in it this time (and thank you for that, because it's exactly what was missing the other times), so it's very likely that it will get approved — but just be aware that it may take a few days for somebody to get to it, because things always tend to slow down for a few days at Christmastime. Thanks again for the sources, and for being conscientious about it. Bearcat (talk) 14:01, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to submit it through the process that you mentioned. But encountered the following message.

Can you advise what I should do?

Thanks.

This page is currently protected so that only administrators can create it. The page title you have tried to create has been protected from creation. The reason given is: Repeatedly recreated. You may also wish to check the deletion log. If you feel this page should be created, please... ...first ask the protecting administrator to review proposed new content for the page, being sure to have adequate independent, reliable sources to meet any notability requirements as set forth in the general notability guideline or other appropriate specific guideline.

...then raise the matter at deletion review, being careful to quote the exact page name or address and the reasons you feel the page should now be created. Pages are usually only blocked from creation after significant discussion or disruption, so good reasons for seeking review are usually required. You will also need to show that the previous concerns are no longer a problem.

Oywl (talk) 01:42, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that you're only reading selectively. Bearcat advised you to add "{{subst:submit}}" at the foot of the existing draft page (Draft:Bahren Shaari), and to be patient. You didn't add it, and you weren't patient. (Or perhaps you misread Bearcat as advising you do do this at Bahren Shaari.)

At this point, I for one wouldn't approve it. Notability isn't obvious, the claim that "he was responsible for the growth in the Southeast Asia and Australia markets" is unsourced, and two entire sections are completely unsourced. "He is a certified trainer for 'Leadership Challenges'": What are these challenges, who certified him, and what's your source for this?

I suggest that you first make sure that all its content is reliably sourced, that you only then add "{{subst:submit}}" at the foot, and that you then be prepared to wait weeks. -- Hoary (talk) 08:29, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks much for the clarification. Had indeed misread it as what you had suggested. Thank you for highlighting the need to further beef up the sections that are unsourced. Oywl (talk) 14:44, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Bahren Shaari has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Bahren Shaari. Thanks! joe decker ^talk 17:13, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bahren Shaari (February 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by NewYorkActuary was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The only claim to significance seems to be the subject's position at the Bank of Singapore. But "inherited notability" is not sufficient justification for a standalone article on the subject. Perhaps some of the material here can be added to theBank of Singapore article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Oywl, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! NewYorkActuary (talk) 20:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bahren Shaari (May 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Winged Blades of Godric was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I fail to see any independent notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Winged Blades^Godric 17:53, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Bahren Shaari concern

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bahren Shaari has been accepted

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DGG ( talk ) 07:33, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]