User talk:MedTime

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MEDRS and self-referencing

MedTime -- please read WP:MEDREV and other related parts of MEDRS for the quality of sources needed to support content in Wikipedia. The standards include using journals with reasonable-to-high impact factors. The journal you wish to cite here PMID 28927660 has an impact factor barely above 0, so is not an acceptable source for medical content. Further, be careful trying to cite and emphasize your own work at WP as revealed in your personal page history, as this may cross into WP:COI. It's best to find a high-quality review representative of the field, rather than your own study. Thanks and good luck. --Zefr (talk) 03:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Impact factor

On my Talk page, you said: "Thanks for your suggestion. Just wanted to get this thing in to your notice, that Research gate Impact factor is not an impact factor what you should look into. Researchgate counts impact factor of only those articles which are uploaded into researchgate. Please get some more information regarding the impact factor before suggesting to any one. Only one impact factor should be considered and that is from Science Journal Report / Clavirate Analytics. Also, if the journal is Medline indexed, it can be cited and is considered as a good source. Impact factor is not necessary. Thanks and all the best."

The journal you chose for publishing your hypothesis, PMID 28927660, did not display an impact factor in the usual indexes where I searched. In this case, it's not my obligation, but more an issue for you to defend why you chose this particular journal having an obscure impact factor at best, if not a disqualifying low score for use according to MEDRS. What is the official impact factor of that journal? Regarding Medline indexing, it's not an acceptable criterion by itself for use as a reference in WP articles. Medline is simply a listing and search service, described here, and does not add a quality criterion useful to WP editors. That's why learning MEDRS principles will help you become a reliable editor, particularly if you follow the source quality assessment discussed in WP:MEDASSESS and its pyramids which lead you to find systematic reviews and meta-analyses of multiple randomized controlled trials as the highest quality of sources for medical content. Keep in mind that WP is an encyclopedia, not a textbook or journal; WP:NOTJOURNAL. Also relevant to the content you wanted to add from your publication is the guidance in WP:MEDCOI. --Zefr (talk) 14:20, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On my Talk page, you said: "I tried searching for it, but could not find any where an impact factor is necessary. Please provide a link for the same to defend your comments. Secondly, there are many articles from different journals which are medline indexed and are present in wikipedia which are just reviews and do not have an impact factor. So, can I start removing them as well? If you can provide me a link which says that you need this much impact factor to be there in wikipedia, i can start removing the articles and clean up wikipedia, but obvious I would want to cite the impact factor requisite from wikipedia, hence your help is appreciated here.

Also, it is quite unfortunate for you to say that I should only publish articles in only journals which do not have a obscure impact factor. IMO any one can publish in a journal of their choice and no one has a right to judge any ones decision based on their own thinking. I am sorry to say, but this is not correct. Please note that getting indexed in medline shows that it is a quality journal. In fact, it is the best quality accessing according to many scholars. Thanks and I will wait for your direct link to impact factor requisite."

As you learn and implement quality-control in choosing sources according to WP:MEDRS, you will see from other editors that impact factor occasionally enters the decision when other elements of choosing a source are controversial; reviews on primary research and hypotheses would be examples of low-quality evidence. A general threshold for impact factor on medical topics among WP medical editors is 2 or higher; see this list for the highest-ranked journals and this discussion under WP:MEDASSESS: "knowledge about the quality of the evidence helps distinguish between minor and major views, determine due weight, and identify accepted evidence-based information. Even in reputable medical journals, different papers are not treated as of equal value. Studies can be categorized into levels of evidence, and editors should rely on high-quality evidence, such as systematic reviews. Lower quality evidence (such as case reports) or non-evidence (such as anecdotes or conventional wisdom) are avoided. Medical guidelines or position statements by nationally or internationally recognized expert bodies also often contain assessments of underlying evidence."

You will need some experience in editing medical topics with other editors critiquing or rejecting your contribution. I have provided more feedback to you than a normal reply because you are a young physician and new editor with potential to provide value to the encyclopedia. But I do not have to address all your concerns now, and feel my discussion with you has been sufficient to help you get started. Please just proceed with MEDRS as your guide, and see how you do. You can also learn by following and engaging in the medical editor discussions going on at WT:MED. --Zefr (talk) 15:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia: editing medical topics

Possibly useful to you. --Zefr (talk) 14:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]